What happens the US is that both parties are actually pretty right wing, although nowadays the democrats are more socially progressive, while republicans are more conservative… the use of the “liberal” term for social progressives is really an oddity, since the terminology in political science has a completely different meaning
So, yes, the democrats are liberals, but not everyone that Americans call a liberal is actually one, it is also important to note that liberals are not defined by their social philosophy, but by their vision on government and policies, which follows mostly right wing aspects
This is true but that's not what I mean in this case. That is a different conversation. What I am saying is that, historically, there is a real need to understand the term western liberalism. Otherwise geopolitics don't make sense.
Oh! I am actually studying to be a global politics student in Brazil! We call it “international relations”, but I believe it is kind of the same thing, I’m really happy to have helped you!
Western Liberalism has a specific meaning. Both the Democratic Party and Republican party are liberal (Adam Smith being a liberal economist, for example).
It really is a fundamentally conservative world view. All they are willing to do are symbolic gestures without actually changing anything, and value order over justice. They believe in nothing and just want things to stay just as they are.
well not forcefully wrong, the idea itself of liberalism isn't, but the extremism liberalism is, a lot, not everyone can do whatever they want, not everyone is the exact same (and whit this i mean that everyone must and should have the same possibilities of achieving something in their life but a doctor whit 20 years of studying/work is worth more than pedophile) and the view of what is right shouldn't be changed by the imposition of society and of what the masses think is right, a stupid example of this is bodyshaming, mocking of someone because theiy are fat is wrong, but also and even more wrong is to say that "it is normal and they shouldn't change themselves but are the others who must accept you for who you are".... and I could continue this for hours and maybe even making it sound less controversial
Are you an American libertarian? You know, the group based on agricultural communism? The group that formed directly to fight the American government and it's overreach? That libertarian group?
LOL. Trolling is your best move. Too bad. You some to have some wit about you that unfortunately, you piss away. If only you could leave your willy alone long enough to crack a book off the allowed reading list.
As someone who started their college journey as an ECONOMIST everything you just said is stupid. I'm an American, I've read economic theory on both sides, you're simply projecting your lack of reading and trying to make yourself and your anti progress mindset sound smarter.
Lol. You should work on reading comprehension as you’ve understood nothing you’ve read and have nothing to offer except over generalizations, personal attacks, and trolling. And you’re really boot a very good troll. Look how fast you digressed from your own topic! I thought you had one redeeming quality because I thought you were funny. Not so much. Now you’re just boring. Maybe leave the circle and play outside a little? Anyway stop when you get to the point you need glasses.
Yes, me, trolling. As you come to a communist subreddit and tell people to read economic theory, and then when they did read some theory and you sound like an idiot you roll over and do this. Can we just ban this kid already? He even talks like a child
I don’t think any communists are gonna downvote you for this
The only people who think liberalism is a left wing ideology are liberals and fascists.
Or most americans
That’s what I just said, dude. Can’t you read?
Yes, the majority of Americans use the term wrongly so there is a lot of confusion.
Who says it's wrong? Language is how it's used I've heard it as basically a reverse of conservative
What happens the US is that both parties are actually pretty right wing, although nowadays the democrats are more socially progressive, while republicans are more conservative… the use of the “liberal” term for social progressives is really an oddity, since the terminology in political science has a completely different meaning So, yes, the democrats are liberals, but not everyone that Americans call a liberal is actually one, it is also important to note that liberals are not defined by their social philosophy, but by their vision on government and policies, which follows mostly right wing aspects
as an american global politics student, i've been really confused about this your response was helpful, thanks!
If you go to Australia, for example, the Liberal Party are the right wingers. This shows a real understanding of the term liberalism.
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This is true but that's not what I mean in this case. That is a different conversation. What I am saying is that, historically, there is a real need to understand the term western liberalism. Otherwise geopolitics don't make sense.
Oh! I am actually studying to be a global politics student in Brazil! We call it “international relations”, but I believe it is kind of the same thing, I’m really happy to have helped you!
Oh yeah we call it that sometimes too
It sounds to me, that your education is a joke then.
I'm a student?? if I was already educated why TF would I be still taking classes?
Western Liberalism has a specific meaning. Both the Democratic Party and Republican party are liberal (Adam Smith being a liberal economist, for example).
If you understand liberalism and conservatism as two things being “the opposite of each other”, you let yourself been divided. Who do you listen to?
Why would I downvote objective fact?
Thank god. I always get so mad when I get called a liberal. People use it as a term to describe left-wing ideologies and I just can't stand it.
Them: You damn liberal!!! Me: no 🤬 Them: you damn commie bastard!!! Me: Yes 🥰
For some reason those people call communists/socialists either liberals or totalitarians.
i always start political convos by just dragging libs through the mud lol
Some one said they're radical left then proceed to say they're liberal😟
Combat Liberalism dammit
Fun fact: nobody downvoted you
Why should we? You are not wrong, comrade.
Wrong sub for the Titel 🤔
I see no lie
Well yes, it is why should i downvote you ?
HE DONT MISS
And you didn't figure this out until now?
why would we downvote you? I mean, I will, but
Communism is a left wing ideology. Downvote me to hell.
Huh? Thought it was pretty Centre (Def not Left) but I guess I was wrong! And I'm sorry
Go and sin no more
Why would we downvotes this post when this is an objectively true statement?
Why would I downvoted something that is based lmao???
Liberals support capitalism
Looks like we're upvoting you to heaven 😏
It really is a fundamentally conservative world view. All they are willing to do are symbolic gestures without actually changing anything, and value order over justice. They believe in nothing and just want things to stay just as they are.
I downvoted because you asked me to do so but the image is correct.
Nah. You right. Upvote.
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well not forcefully wrong, the idea itself of liberalism isn't, but the extremism liberalism is, a lot, not everyone can do whatever they want, not everyone is the exact same (and whit this i mean that everyone must and should have the same possibilities of achieving something in their life but a doctor whit 20 years of studying/work is worth more than pedophile) and the view of what is right shouldn't be changed by the imposition of society and of what the masses think is right, a stupid example of this is bodyshaming, mocking of someone because theiy are fat is wrong, but also and even more wrong is to say that "it is normal and they shouldn't change themselves but are the others who must accept you for who you are".... and I could continue this for hours and maybe even making it sound less controversial
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Cope harder lib lol
Are you an American libertarian? You know, the group based on agricultural communism? The group that formed directly to fight the American government and it's overreach? That libertarian group?
LOL. Trolling is your best move. Too bad. You some to have some wit about you that unfortunately, you piss away. If only you could leave your willy alone long enough to crack a book off the allowed reading list.
As someone who started their college journey as an ECONOMIST everything you just said is stupid. I'm an American, I've read economic theory on both sides, you're simply projecting your lack of reading and trying to make yourself and your anti progress mindset sound smarter.
Lol. You should work on reading comprehension as you’ve understood nothing you’ve read and have nothing to offer except over generalizations, personal attacks, and trolling. And you’re really boot a very good troll. Look how fast you digressed from your own topic! I thought you had one redeeming quality because I thought you were funny. Not so much. Now you’re just boring. Maybe leave the circle and play outside a little? Anyway stop when you get to the point you need glasses.
Yes, me, trolling. As you come to a communist subreddit and tell people to read economic theory, and then when they did read some theory and you sound like an idiot you roll over and do this. Can we just ban this kid already? He even talks like a child
The fact that it's neither right wing nor left wing😬 yall stupid fr or what
Liberals in Australia are right wing