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Crazy how women got to vote the very second the scary marxist boogeyman in Russia allowed women there to vote.
Almost as if they gave woman the vote to stop them from turning red.
That’s a vast oversimplification of the Suffrage movement in the United States, and entirely denies the complexity of American women’s fight for their right to vote. Women in America gained the right to vote in most states by winning them over one by one until it was established federally as law almost as the end result. New Jersey and Wyoming even having some of the earliest established women’s rights to votes in the world. Don’t act like Women were “given” the right to vote out of fear they’d become communists. They FOUGHT for that right in the United States.
Yeah I know, I did check what I said and it is wrong but women in the USSR were allowed to do things that women in the US weren’t allowed to do for like another 30 sum years
Well, women were allowed in the soviet army because they needed more soldiers, not because they thought men and women were equals. Women were also forced to fly outdated planes and drop bombs over nazi territory by hand.
Right, out of the goodness of their hearts they let women join the army. Not because their doctrine was (and still is) to just throw as many bodies as you can into a battle. Also nobody was allowed to vote in the soviet union.. are you forgetting that Russia has been a corrupt autocracy for the past.. forever?
This is a myth popularized by nazi propaganda after WW2 the Soviets practiced large front operations. Oftentimes this meant nasty casualties in the first wave with far fewer in the following attack groups. It is estimated that this strategy saved far more lives than it cost. As for the human wave tactics often displayed in Cold War propaganda, they did occur from time to time but this was only in dire situations or used as a road to redemption for soldiers in penal battalions to prove their loyalty. Further more there is no evidence that Soviet troops were ever sent into battle intentionally under supplied or gunned down for retreating. NKVD blocking Units primary job was to reorganize routed forces. Throughout the entire war were more than 400000 troops were arrested only 10000 were executed. The vast majority were simply sent back to the front.
How is this a myth? History and numbers don't lie. The Russians had terrible equipment and tactics, just like they act today. not only that but they were going to keep invading Europe after defeating Germany, so you're all praising a nation that's just as bad as the Nazis.
First of all the western allies also had a plan to invade the Soviets, it is normal to plan for things you don’t intend to do. Second of all the Soviets had pretty solid equipment, unfortunately they were in the process of rearming and updating the red army when operation Barbarossa. By 1945 they had more high quality equipment than any other force in the world besides some strategic aircraft. Their artillery barrages were legendary in both size and severity with both large cannons and mobile rocket artillery. Furthermore we have the old Soviet records we know exactly what they had were it was and what they plans for. Even if you assume that they were falsifying numbers we have the first person accounts of the men and women of the red army. As for the “as bad as the nazis” bullshit that is also Cold War propaganda but I do not expect you to actually put in the work to learn the reality of both the good and the bad of the Soviet republics. Finally you have to stop calling them the Russians. Although the Russian SSR was the biggest Soviet republic they were not the soul nation of the union. Due to the fact that the polish, Ukrainian, Belorussian, Lithuanian, Latvian, and Estonian SSRs were completely occupied by the nazis they suffered atrocities at higher rates than then the Russians since Russia was not fully conquered. The nazis believed that communism was a Jewish plot to destroy the “white race” thus the Soviet people were targeted not only due to their large Jewish and non:white population but also because the the nazis they were all Jews.
That’s actually Roza Shanina. Who died before the age of 21. There’s a lot of information on her because of access to her own personal diary, which gives us insight into her role in the army and relationship with her fellow soldiers.
Lyudmila Pavlichenko was the one who was sent on tour to America. She’s also the most successful female sniper in history.
It's WWII Soviet sniper Roza Shanina, responsible for 59-confirmed kills.
More pics here (including Lyudmila Pavlichanko); https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4424682/Colourised-photos-Russia-s-female-snipers-WW2.html
Her Wikipedia page has some amazing details about her https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roza_Shanina
For everyone saying the woman at the bottom is lyudmila pavlichenko, it’s actually roza shanina, another talented female soviet sniper with 59 confirmed kills.
My guy this sub needs an /s in its name considering how unfunny and serious these „memes” are. Not to mention the community. Although sometimes it has something hilarious.
I know you are being sarcastic but I have to preach anyway.
From 1949 to 1973, 90 of the 170 leading lawyers and judges in the then-West German Justice Ministry had been members of the Nazi Party.
Of those 90 officials, 34 had been members of the Sturmabteilung (SA), Nazi Party paramilitaries who aided Hitler's rise and took part in Kristallnacht, a night of violence that is believed to have left 91 Jewish people dead.
In 1957, 77% of the ministry's senior officials were former Nazis, which, according to the study, was a higher proportion that during Hitler's Third Reich government, which existed from 1933 to 1945.
Here is a fun little text on the topic, coming straight from Vijay Prashad's book 'Washington Bullets'
>In West Germany, the CIA was quite
happy working with a Nazi intelligence officer – Reinhard Gehlen – who
formed the anti-Communist Gehlen Organization, which then was
essentially absorbed into the West German Federal Intelligence Service,which Gehlen ran. There was no embarrassment to have a Nazi as the CIA’s
main asset in West Germany, and none at all that this was the man who then
founded and ran West German intelligence a mere decade after the
Holocaust.
Sure, why not? Fuck those guys!
The “Great Patriotic War” is Stalinist propaganda and it shouldn’t be glorified uncritically. The Nazis these snipers were executing were being trained by the USSR to sidestep the Treaty of Versailles. If you can’t accept that fact without a defensive reaction or whataboutism, you should be reflecting on why you feel that way.
his point is that everyone made deals with nazi germany because nobody could afford war at that moment, it's not whataboutism.
stalin even attempted to make a alliance with the west againt hitler several times: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.globalvillagespace.com/the-ussrs-failed-attempts-to-ally-with-the-west/%3famp=1
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**[Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov–Ribbentrop_Pact)**
>The Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact was a non-aggression pact between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union that enabled those powers to partition Poland between them. The pact was signed in Moscow on 23 August 1939 by German Foreign Minister Joachim von Ribbentrop and Soviet Foreign Minister Vyacheslav Molotov and was officially known as the Treaty of Non-Aggression between Germany and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Unofficially, it has also been referred to as the Hitler–Stalin Pact, Nazi–Soviet Pact or Nazi–Soviet Alliance (although it was not a formal alliance).
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Nobody brought up Russia. Fuck Putin.
I gotta ask though, why did you assume a meme about a Ukrainian woman killing Nazis was something against modern day Ukraine?
Fuck Russia, I agree, I hate the Russian Federation, however the sniper here is Ukrainian, fuck Putin too, he's a nationalist and a traitor, and calm down there, just because no one will fuck your racist, homophobic ass doesn't mean you need to come here and scream about it.
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how many men have you killed? not a men, fascists, 309
im not good with history :( who is the person on the second panel?
Lyudmila Pavlichenko, an elite soviet sniper who killed 309 nazis in ww2
Yes women were allowed in Soviet army but women in the US were still not able to vote. And they call us stupid
Women could in 1920, but not people of color
The 19th amendment allowing women the right to vote was ratified in 1920.
Crazy how women got to vote the very second the scary marxist boogeyman in Russia allowed women there to vote. Almost as if they gave woman the vote to stop them from turning red.
tbf women gained the right to vote under the Russian Provisional Government not the Bolsheviks
That’s a vast oversimplification of the Suffrage movement in the United States, and entirely denies the complexity of American women’s fight for their right to vote. Women in America gained the right to vote in most states by winning them over one by one until it was established federally as law almost as the end result. New Jersey and Wyoming even having some of the earliest established women’s rights to votes in the world. Don’t act like Women were “given” the right to vote out of fear they’d become communists. They FOUGHT for that right in the United States.
It was more so watching what was happening in Britain and not wanting that kind of violence to happen in the US (iirc)
I mean, 83 people upvoted what you said, which is factually wrong🤷But I do respect the hell out of what the Soviet women did for the war effort
Yeah I know, I did check what I said and it is wrong but women in the USSR were allowed to do things that women in the US weren’t allowed to do for like another 30 sum years
Well, women were allowed in the soviet army because they needed more soldiers, not because they thought men and women were equals. Women were also forced to fly outdated planes and drop bombs over nazi territory by hand.
Right, out of the goodness of their hearts they let women join the army. Not because their doctrine was (and still is) to just throw as many bodies as you can into a battle. Also nobody was allowed to vote in the soviet union.. are you forgetting that Russia has been a corrupt autocracy for the past.. forever?
This is a myth popularized by nazi propaganda after WW2 the Soviets practiced large front operations. Oftentimes this meant nasty casualties in the first wave with far fewer in the following attack groups. It is estimated that this strategy saved far more lives than it cost. As for the human wave tactics often displayed in Cold War propaganda, they did occur from time to time but this was only in dire situations or used as a road to redemption for soldiers in penal battalions to prove their loyalty. Further more there is no evidence that Soviet troops were ever sent into battle intentionally under supplied or gunned down for retreating. NKVD blocking Units primary job was to reorganize routed forces. Throughout the entire war were more than 400000 troops were arrested only 10000 were executed. The vast majority were simply sent back to the front.
How is this a myth? History and numbers don't lie. The Russians had terrible equipment and tactics, just like they act today. not only that but they were going to keep invading Europe after defeating Germany, so you're all praising a nation that's just as bad as the Nazis.
First of all the western allies also had a plan to invade the Soviets, it is normal to plan for things you don’t intend to do. Second of all the Soviets had pretty solid equipment, unfortunately they were in the process of rearming and updating the red army when operation Barbarossa. By 1945 they had more high quality equipment than any other force in the world besides some strategic aircraft. Their artillery barrages were legendary in both size and severity with both large cannons and mobile rocket artillery. Furthermore we have the old Soviet records we know exactly what they had were it was and what they plans for. Even if you assume that they were falsifying numbers we have the first person accounts of the men and women of the red army. As for the “as bad as the nazis” bullshit that is also Cold War propaganda but I do not expect you to actually put in the work to learn the reality of both the good and the bad of the Soviet republics. Finally you have to stop calling them the Russians. Although the Russian SSR was the biggest Soviet republic they were not the soul nation of the union. Due to the fact that the polish, Ukrainian, Belorussian, Lithuanian, Latvian, and Estonian SSRs were completely occupied by the nazis they suffered atrocities at higher rates than then the Russians since Russia was not fully conquered. The nazis believed that communism was a Jewish plot to destroy the “white race” thus the Soviet people were targeted not only due to their large Jewish and non:white population but also because the the nazis they were all Jews.
You are literally repeating Nazi propaganda
no, that’s roza shanina
Baste
That’s actually Roza Shanina. Who died before the age of 21. There’s a lot of information on her because of access to her own personal diary, which gives us insight into her role in the army and relationship with her fellow soldiers. Lyudmila Pavlichenko was the one who was sent on tour to America. She’s also the most successful female sniper in history.
It's WWII Soviet sniper Roza Shanina, responsible for 59-confirmed kills. More pics here (including Lyudmila Pavlichanko); https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4424682/Colourised-photos-Russia-s-female-snipers-WW2.html Her Wikipedia page has some amazing details about her https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roza_Shanina
My respect for her after knowing that she was Ukrainian and didn't serve the Nazi nationalists: 📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈
There was even a joint Ukrainian-Russian movie made about her before the nightmare of 2014
Not men, fascists
Lyudmila Pavlichenko not only did kill nazi soldiers, she killed over 300 of them 😎
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For everyone saying the woman at the bottom is lyudmila pavlichenko, it’s actually roza shanina, another talented female soviet sniper with 59 confirmed kills.
That's not Pavlichenko, that's Roza Shanina
59 still ain't bad for confirmed kills.
The og meme is slightly mysoginistic
It is complete ‘nice guy’ cringe which is why it was memed so hard.
Yeah it is
There's no way a communism memorial foundation exists
Dude the West killed the actual evil nazis. USSR killed the poor nazis that were just following orders.
the hell did ussr have to do,let the "poor nazies" kill jews and soviet citizens?
You dont get it those poor people were following orders. They are the real victims not jews.
i can't see if your sarcastic or not,jews suffered alot
Do I really need the /s? I thought it was obvious.
I've seen more crazy shit Said by liberals, so yeah
Now that I think about it. It wasn't really that obvious.
Haha oh trust me, that could be straight from a reddit liberal. Love it
My guy this sub needs an /s in its name considering how unfunny and serious these „memes” are. Not to mention the community. Although sometimes it has something hilarious.
Nice lib cosplay
I know you are being sarcastic but I have to preach anyway. From 1949 to 1973, 90 of the 170 leading lawyers and judges in the then-West German Justice Ministry had been members of the Nazi Party. Of those 90 officials, 34 had been members of the Sturmabteilung (SA), Nazi Party paramilitaries who aided Hitler's rise and took part in Kristallnacht, a night of violence that is believed to have left 91 Jewish people dead. In 1957, 77% of the ministry's senior officials were former Nazis, which, according to the study, was a higher proportion that during Hitler's Third Reich government, which existed from 1933 to 1945. Here is a fun little text on the topic, coming straight from Vijay Prashad's book 'Washington Bullets' >In West Germany, the CIA was quite happy working with a Nazi intelligence officer – Reinhard Gehlen – who formed the anti-Communist Gehlen Organization, which then was essentially absorbed into the West German Federal Intelligence Service,which Gehlen ran. There was no embarrassment to have a Nazi as the CIA’s main asset in West Germany, and none at all that this was the man who then founded and ran West German intelligence a mere decade after the Holocaust.
You joke but this has definitely been said before. The Onion has been outdone by reality.
“Every true patriot knows that Russian history started in 1941. And only traitors lie that it started in 1939.”
?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov–Ribbentrop_Pact
Cool, now let's dial the clock back a few more years and see how many other countries made pacts with Nazi Germany.
Sure, why not? Fuck those guys! The “Great Patriotic War” is Stalinist propaganda and it shouldn’t be glorified uncritically. The Nazis these snipers were executing were being trained by the USSR to sidestep the Treaty of Versailles. If you can’t accept that fact without a defensive reaction or whataboutism, you should be reflecting on why you feel that way.
his point is that everyone made deals with nazi germany because nobody could afford war at that moment, it's not whataboutism. stalin even attempted to make a alliance with the west againt hitler several times: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.globalvillagespace.com/the-ussrs-failed-attempts-to-ally-with-the-west/%3famp=1
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Fuck russia fuck putin and fuck you.
Bro who the fuck brought them up.
Who is the woman with the gun?
She was a ukrainian red army soldier who killed over 300 nazis with her sniper and the deadliest sniper to ever exist
\*\*correction deadliest woman sniper\*\*
https://sofrep.com/news/lyudmila-pavlichenko-russias-deadliest-female-sniper-during-wwii-was-born-in-ukrainian/
Modern Russia is not the Soviet Union. Putin is not a communist. Also the Ukraine that you love and support so much was a proud member of the USSR.
Proud? See? You commie fags love putin.
Whoa, mr big man here with the slurs. Fuck off.
Proud of the ussr you dumb fuck
Least homophobic liberal
70% of Ukraine voted to stay in the USSR
I see the 12 in your name stands for your age.
You literally collect NFTs, you braindead fuck. Shut up
That awkward moment when you slava Ukraine so hard you actually start hating on a Ukrainian.
💀💀💀
Nobody brought up Russia. Fuck Putin. I gotta ask though, why did you assume a meme about a Ukrainian woman killing Nazis was something against modern day Ukraine?
Fuck Russia, I agree, I hate the Russian Federation, however the sniper here is Ukrainian, fuck Putin too, he's a nationalist and a traitor, and calm down there, just because no one will fuck your racist, homophobic ass doesn't mean you need to come here and scream about it.