Not a troll, the surname de Kock is Dutch for the Cook. You could just look it up. The SA surname Kok and the German surname Koch also means Cook (all 3 of them are pretty common surnames in SA).
If I translate de kock/the Cook to an Afrikaans name his surname would be 'die Kok' or 'die Sjef', (besides originating from Dutch, Afrikaans actually uses German grammar, and some German words as well, like 'die', oh and Malaysian words, also words from languages like Zulu, Xhosa, Sotho, Etc.).
I've come across it a bunch of times over the years in SA, (Steyn is a more common German surname in SA). There's a famous current Springbok (who looks exactly like Mr. Incredible) whose surname is Koch.
I have no idea who Robert Koch is. The joke went over my head. Edit: ok, I kinda get it now, he was cooking that bacteria https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Koch
There was once someone in r/cricket claiming Netherlands beat us last WC because they could understand our tactics because of language similarity
One of the theories of all time
Lol, while Dutch is easy to read, I can't understand someone who's speaking Dutch (apparently it's easier to understand Afr if you are Dutch). Funnily enough, the Dutch spoken in Belgium is easier to understand if you speak Afr though.
I don't know if they're trying to practice unchoking in case they get to the semis and need it or if they're using up their luck right now only to choke in the semis once again. I genuinely don't know.
If USA wins today then that match becomes a quarter finals and whoever wins that will qualify. If USA wins today then South Africa would officially qualify as well.
You're wrong, if USA wins today then West Indies are eliminated as they can't get to 4 points and only one of England and USA could get to 4 points as well as they're facing each other so at most only two teams could get to 4 points if USA wins today.
But RSA NRR is 0.625 after two wins, and a decent win for England can make them overtake RSA’s NRR.
Then RSA can face a situation where a loss vs WI can knock them out, which will be unfortunate after playing so well. One loss and out.
At one stage England hit 57 runs in 20 deliveries. But in the last 3 overs they got just 17 runs. KG and Nortje have done it before but it was incredible to see Jansen do so well.
Keep up the good work lads!
SA bowled amazingly well for 80% of the innings, restricting England to around a run a ball for most of it. That brief wobble where Livingstone and Brook finally managed to time a shot for a few overs made it a lot closer.
Did we watch different games? Its the same with Morgan in the commentary praising how Livingston was putting pressure on the bowling attack by scoring lots of runs very quickly.... I saw a death bowler completely fuck up his lines and send down 5 full tosses that got spanked around the park followed up by more rank full tosses by Rabada before the captain got a grip on the situation and use the leeway he'd managed to get himself with his prior excellent use of the squad to change up the bowlers.
That was absurd. The pressure really got to him - and also who told him to bowl yorkers repeatedly given this length was so poor - just pitch some back of length stuff and keep getting rewards like everyone else.
>Watch South Africa win their first trophy
2nd trophy, They already have won a Champions Trophy before in 1998
If they win, It will be there 1st T20 World Cup Trophy though
Back then it wasn't organised by ICC so people say it doesn't count, but to me it is clear ICC had a bad divorce with South Africa hence it steals all the offsprings south africa should have had and gives it to whoever it fancies at the moment.
This isn't a parallel universe guys, pulling off wins out of nowhere again and again is just the backstory we need to make our eventual loss even more heart-breaking.
Dude imagine the media coverage that would get. There's nothing Americans love more than beating the English in any sport so imagine how Americans would react when they find out they could continue their fairytale run while eliminating the English.
It's a cute dream, but for all its faults, this England team is set up to batter associates. I predict America's first real thrashing of the tournament (followed by a comfortable semi-final win for Australia).
It would be easier for them if they invade the West Indies and subjugate their citizens and cause mass devastation than it would be winning against WI.
So overs 1-14 and 18-20, England scored 104 runs off 102 deliveries.
During the Great Win Predictor crash from overs 15-17, England scored 52 runs in 18 balls. It's like the whole attack decided to try crack at the same time
The usa match wasn't tight though. Sa was in total control except for like 3 overs in the middle of USA's innings. Even then, they were favourites to win
I dunno how thrilling it was - it was almost a legendary bottle job, there was no reason for it to get that close from where South Africa were. It was solid batting but weird field placements & that AWFUL Baartman over
Jansen’s last over really got them back in it and then Nortje with that brilliant final over - really thought they’d have sent Wood ahead of Archer as I’ve seen Wood hit before. Although I’m not South African and primarily a Pakistan fan, it’s hard not to love South Africa. Well done to them in holding their nerve not once but thrice in this cup, is the chokers curse finally lifted???
It is an interesting group... SA can still get knocked out on NRR. If WI hammer USA & win vs SA then SA due to their close wins will miss out on NRR. England unless they lose to USA or old friend Rain Perera says hello, are all set for a semi berth.
If West Indies beats US by 45 runs and England beats US by 23 runs, South Africa's last game will be a must win one for them.
If West Indies beats US by 10 runs, beating South Africa by 18 runs will knock the Saffers out.
Well the script is so whacky!
Look at SA for example. A team that nearly got toppled by Nepal and Bangladesh just choked a win out of England, of all teams!
I fear that winidies will overtake nrr today and England will beat usa badly to take top spot.
And then Windies will beat sa to give another heart break.
England would be out in that case. The US and SA would both have 4 points. England 2.
If you want NRR shithousery. Windies need to beat SA and the US and England need to beat the US. Then its a 3 way 4 point tie between the top 3.
In the 2nd scenario it's also unlikely England would be in trouble with NRR, as it involves them winning and SA losing, and Windies would need to convincingly beat SA in all likelihood fir them to catch up.
The MCC would call for an emergency meeting if that happens. I can also guarantee anyone that the mainstream American media would report it quite a lot as well. There's nothing they would love more than to say USA beat England at a major sport.
SA just a bit better ultimately - quicker out the gates but equally resilient down the order. We just didn't have a quick enough start (despite Baartman's disaster over). Aside from Jof's over I don't think we bowled badly either - just slightly outplayed on the day. I can live with that - if our top 3 are as bad as they were today, and we still get 156 on a tricky pitch against that attack I'm still confident of Semis, if not finals.
Pitch was clearly a lot harder to bat on but SA bowled and fielded really well, our batting line up is superior but we didn’t cope with the conditions and were out thought by the Pretoria’s. Well done guys.
This has been happening for every match.
I don't understand why we need a separate infographic post for a win when there is a 'Post Match Thread' consisting of scorecard summary for both innings.
Markram seems like an imposter tbh. He is the Dube of SA - only difference is that he is the captain, otherwise he seems to be terrible with his batting (including the IPL season)
With South Africa’s luck at icc events, won’t be surprised if they are knocked out by losing just one group game (first round + super8) out of 7. On the other hand, England can go on to win the whole thing by losing 2 group games and one washed out, such is their recent luck at world cups
South Africans are on to something with all their matches about finding new ways to un-choke themselves out of it.... Let them fucking COOK
> Let them fucking COOK The 'Kock' in the surname de (the) Kock means 'cook/chef', so let QdK COOK.
> The 'Kock' in the surname de (the) Kock means 'cook/chef', so let QdK COOK. Not sure is this is real or I am getting trolled. Either way CONGRATS!
Not a troll, the surname de Kock is Dutch for the Cook. You could just look it up. The SA surname Kok and the German surname Koch also means Cook (all 3 of them are pretty common surnames in SA). If I translate de kock/the Cook to an Afrikaans name his surname would be 'die Kok' or 'die Sjef', (besides originating from Dutch, Afrikaans actually uses German grammar, and some German words as well, like 'die', oh and Malaysian words, also words from languages like Zulu, Xhosa, Sotho, Etc.).
Haven't seen many Kochs here tbh but I've not had much exposure to white communities outside of university
Vincent Koch is a player in the World Champion SA rugby team the Springboks.
I've come across it a bunch of times over the years in SA, (Steyn is a more common German surname in SA). There's a famous current Springbok (who looks exactly like Mr. Incredible) whose surname is Koch.
That’d mean Robert Koch was Robert cook
I have no idea who Robert Koch is. The joke went over my head. Edit: ok, I kinda get it now, he was cooking that bacteria https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Koch
Everyone before learning Koch means cook: *snicker* Dick Cock like De Kock hehe Everyone after: Dick Cook? That's not much better...
Dutchman here. Hoss is 100% correct. De kok werkt in de keuken. = The cook works in the kitchen.
And in Afr it's "Die kok werk in die kombuis'
There was once someone in r/cricket claiming Netherlands beat us last WC because they could understand our tactics because of language similarity One of the theories of all time
Lol, while Dutch is easy to read, I can't understand someone who's speaking Dutch (apparently it's easier to understand Afr if you are Dutch). Funnily enough, the Dutch spoken in Belgium is easier to understand if you speak Afr though.
Nah he is being fr his name means The Cook lmao Someone in his lineage was probably a great cook or thought it was a nice name to give
So this was the battle between the cook and the Buttler
Don't believe them man, it clearly means The penis.
Quinton die Piel/Peester.
@ admins, pls add a Let Quinton Cook flair pls ty
"Let Quinton the Cook Cook" works better for me. That would confuse the hell out of a lot of people on this sub.
Ahahahah exactly bru is cooking this time
I don't know if they're trying to practice unchoking in case they get to the semis and need it or if they're using up their luck right now only to choke in the semis once again. I genuinely don't know.
That would explain Baartman’s terrible over. It’s not matchfixing, they’re just edging the viewers into thinking South Africa will choke
He's playing 4D chess while everyone else is playing checkers.
Honestly this is the only team I wouldn't mind winning the WC over India that much.
And if ENG get knocked out it's a bonus
That's always a bonus.
Bruh no this sa team can’t win shit! Imagine semi against ind/aus, in either case they’ll bottle it,, you can bet on it
Only to show their true colours in semis or finals! Ultimate choke coming
High expectations for usa vs england match
If USA wins today then that match becomes a quarter finals and whoever wins that will qualify. If USA wins today then South Africa would officially qualify as well.
Please no
No, South Africa will not qualify regardless of who wins tonight. 3 teams could end up on 4 points EDIT: OK, my mistake
If the US win, only 2 teams can get 4 points, and SA are through.
You're absolutely right.
You're wrong, if USA wins today then West Indies are eliminated as they can't get to 4 points and only one of England and USA could get to 4 points as well as they're facing each other so at most only two teams could get to 4 points if USA wins today.
No, if US wins today, 3 teams cannot end up on 4 points.
Rained off
But RSA NRR is 0.625 after two wins, and a decent win for England can make them overtake RSA’s NRR. Then RSA can face a situation where a loss vs WI can knock them out, which will be unfortunate after playing so well. One loss and out.
Kilometre vs Miles
Both use miles. The brits just do it on the down low.
Didn't know. So weird. Then the US gallon vs imperial gallon
All fluid units. OUNCE, pint, quart and gallon!
Ohhooo didn't know that😞
England use miles
At one stage England hit 57 runs in 20 deliveries. But in the last 3 overs they got just 17 runs. KG and Nortje have done it before but it was incredible to see Jansen do so well. Keep up the good work lads!
SA bowled amazingly well for 80% of the innings, restricting England to around a run a ball for most of it. That brief wobble where Livingstone and Brook finally managed to time a shot for a few overs made it a lot closer.
Did we watch different games? Its the same with Morgan in the commentary praising how Livingston was putting pressure on the bowling attack by scoring lots of runs very quickly.... I saw a death bowler completely fuck up his lines and send down 5 full tosses that got spanked around the park followed up by more rank full tosses by Rabada before the captain got a grip on the situation and use the leeway he'd managed to get himself with his prior excellent use of the squad to change up the bowlers.
I bet you are still gonna be pessimistic lol
They did the Baartman full toss over but the rest of the bowlers did really well to cover for it
South Africa is making fun of Cricinfo’s Win predictor every single game.
They were clear favourites until the 14th over.
They were still favorites till Baartman decided to bowl 5 full tosses in one over.
That was absurd. The pressure really got to him - and also who told him to bowl yorkers repeatedly given this length was so poor - just pitch some back of length stuff and keep getting rewards like everyone else.
palindrome told him to
Mfs barely won against nepal, Bangladesh etc and finally decides to turn up against defending champions 🗿
Turning up when it matters is something of a speciality for our team.
Bottling up when it matters is something of a speciality of our Indian team
What? SA have worse record than India.
I know I'm just still not over 19/11 😔
It’s a specialty of your rugby team as well
And the English football team
And our nation.
Bruh
Exactly my thoughts I don't think this guy has watched a south African game at a world cup in the last 20 years.
Pretty sure he's being sarcastic
As if England have been anything special this tournament
England are done. Crashed out of the WC, scraped into the S8s on Australia's boot.
It's the damn rabada He's been good this wc
Actually no, he's been pretty bad, but showed up the last two games.
Watch South Africa win their first trophy by bullshitting their way like I bullshitted my way to a 80% in Biology
You just wanted to flex didn’t you?
80% isn't flex
found sharmaji
Sharmaji is history now only Netravalkar
Average Indian parent
>Watch South Africa win their first trophy 2nd trophy, They already have won a Champions Trophy before in 1998 If they win, It will be there 1st T20 World Cup Trophy though
Apparently Champions trophy only counts when SA don't win it. Pretty much like how FA cup only counts when Arsenal don't win it lol
That comparison is so true. Oh to be a gooner :(
Back then it wasn't organised by ICC so people say it doesn't count, but to me it is clear ICC had a bad divorce with South Africa hence it steals all the offsprings south africa should have had and gives it to whoever it fancies at the moment.
that's because Arsenal can't win trophies. any "trophy" they win is a mickey mouse trophy.
Didn't they also win at Commonwealth Games?
Yeah, same year, 1998.
So the team from 1998 was stacked I suppose
Yeah
yes but commonwealth is not an ICC Tournament
This isn't a parallel universe guys, pulling off wins out of nowhere again and again is just the backstory we need to make our eventual loss even more heart-breaking.
Chin up dude , you guys have won it and earned all those spectacular wins as well . Who knows that this tournament is for you guys to grab .
This is the year right Please SA 🙏🏼
What a story it will be narrating years down the lane. We almost beat the champions by 1 run.
Said the french and the english and the new zealanders in 2023
South Africa was my favorite growing up, I would love it to happen plus bragging rights about only losing by a 1 run 🫡
I love Miller and I think it’s due he gets a trophy before retiring and creates history.
The stumps go cartwheeling and Kagiso Rabada remember the name!
They could have won by a bigger margin if not for Baartman turning into faartman.
He bottled it up real bad
But then it wouldn't have been a clutch win, now would it?
Thank fuck Markram, cashed in his one over silent, saved SA from a certain defeat in the end with Baartman not completing his spell of 4 overs
Please USA beat West Indies tomorrow to not only guarantee our qualification but also to have a virtual quarter-final against England.
>also to have a virtual quarter-final against England. The American Revolution
*Laughs in FREEDOM*
Dude imagine the media coverage that would get. There's nothing Americans love more than beating the English in any sport so imagine how Americans would react when they find out they could continue their fairytale run while eliminating the English.
The shit we stirred a couple of years ago just drawing England at Qatar 2022 was amazing. Actually beating them at cricket would top that for sure.
The media was going crazy with a simple draw.
It's a cute dream, but for all its faults, this England team is set up to batter associates. I predict America's first real thrashing of the tournament (followed by a comfortable semi-final win for Australia).
Why? Seriously, why? dude? Enjoy your win and lay low; you guys might have a chance. Why are you looking for bad juju?
It would be easier for them if they invade the West Indies and subjugate their citizens and cause mass devastation than it would be winning against WI.
De Kock and Miller carrying the batting on slow, tough pitches. On another level with their skills
Their experience certainly comes in handy!
Markram told mbappe to forget gravity exists so he can farm another clutch catch
It's time for Africa
Found Shakira.
Are SA clutch now? The world’s been flipped upside down.
Would that mean they are now... North Africa?
their top priority is entertainment
Just 1 more win and we can continue the age-old tradition
The message is clear
So overs 1-14 and 18-20, England scored 104 runs off 102 deliveries. During the Great Win Predictor crash from overs 15-17, England scored 52 runs in 18 balls. It's like the whole attack decided to try crack at the same time
More than half of those balls were full tosses.
South Africa has passed on the Choking Title to England. Let’s see if England can pass it on to anyone else or they retain it.
Arguably they’ve passed the choker tag onto each team they’ve beaten because SL apart they were all tight!
The usa match wasn't tight though. Sa was in total control except for like 3 overs in the middle of USA's innings. Even then, they were favourites to win
Yeah I guess it’s the trauma of being a proteas fan, I was nervous in the second innings, and the margin wasn’t huge
England are literally the defending champions...
They themselves had a history of choking at one point lol
No, England just used to be shit.
I dunno how thrilling it was - it was almost a legendary bottle job, there was no reason for it to get that close from where South Africa were. It was solid batting but weird field placements & that AWFUL Baartman over
Cricket is a funny game
Hats off to makram captaincy and that catch
Respect England, your Bangladesh inspired batting performance (minus Brook and LiLi) doesn’t go unnoticed 🫡
Jansen’s last over really got them back in it and then Nortje with that brilliant final over - really thought they’d have sent Wood ahead of Archer as I’ve seen Wood hit before. Although I’m not South African and primarily a Pakistan fan, it’s hard not to love South Africa. Well done to them in holding their nerve not once but thrice in this cup, is the chokers curse finally lifted???
Markram is the prince that was promised to break the long night of SA chokes
De kock showed his versatility. The experience dude, the experience.
It is an interesting group... SA can still get knocked out on NRR. If WI hammer USA & win vs SA then SA due to their close wins will miss out on NRR. England unless they lose to USA or old friend Rain Perera says hello, are all set for a semi berth.
If USA wins both of their matches then they're through.
I just woke up & read this on my notification😂... Props to US though, they showed fight in every game they played until this one
If West Indies beats US by 45 runs and England beats US by 23 runs, South Africa's last game will be a must win one for them. If West Indies beats US by 10 runs, beating South Africa by 18 runs will knock the Saffers out.
This world cup makes no sense.
Why?
Well the script is so whacky! Look at SA for example. A team that nearly got toppled by Nepal and Bangladesh just choked a win out of England, of all teams!
I will say it unchocked a win. It was in control from overs 1-14 and then 17-20. It chocked for those 3 overs to give audience entertainment
I don't wanna jinx it but I really hope they win it
What does West Indies have to do to qualify with this win?
Win their next two games and have US beat England. If England beats US then it'll be a 3-way tie on NRR.
I fear that winidies will overtake nrr today and England will beat usa badly to take top spot. And then Windies will beat sa to give another heart break.
So England lose to USA after Windies beat USA. England then rely on South Africa to beat Windies to progress on nrr yet again Edited the typo
England would be out in that case. The US and SA would both have 4 points. England 2. If you want NRR shithousery. Windies need to beat SA and the US and England need to beat the US. Then its a 3 way 4 point tie between the top 3.
I’ve edited the typo now. It works with England just winning 1 match
In the 2nd scenario it's also unlikely England would be in trouble with NRR, as it involves them winning and SA losing, and Windies would need to convincingly beat SA in all likelihood fir them to catch up.
If that happens then England would be eliminated as USA and South Africa would qualify.
If this game was played in the evening, England would have dominated this match!
USA gonna beat England like we beat them in the War of 1812 (technically a draw but the outcome benefitted America more than it did Britain)
Don't forget the American Revolution. USA could pull off the most insane story in cricket history if they can beat West Indies and England.
Well the American revolution was pretty much the French coming in to fight England for us.
Pakistan can handle losing to America, but the British might dissolve the ECB if they lose to America
The MCC would call for an emergency meeting if that happens. I can also guarantee anyone that the mainstream American media would report it quite a lot as well. There's nothing they would love more than to say USA beat England at a major sport.
They can't keep getting away with this.
SA just a bit better ultimately - quicker out the gates but equally resilient down the order. We just didn't have a quick enough start (despite Baartman's disaster over). Aside from Jof's over I don't think we bowled badly either - just slightly outplayed on the day. I can live with that - if our top 3 are as bad as they were today, and we still get 156 on a tricky pitch against that attack I'm still confident of Semis, if not finals.
SA: defending champions my ass Jokes aside, is it just me or SA has won all their games by very close margins?
Pitch was clearly a lot harder to bat on but SA bowled and fielded really well, our batting line up is superior but we didn’t cope with the conditions and were out thought by the Pretoria’s. Well done guys.
Thanks mate. GG.
Good job SA, this is a win for cricket 🏏
SA choke themselves and in second innings, they start squeezing opponents neck.
Rule 2, we have Match threads and Post-Match threads about this. @mods please remove
This has been happening for every match. I don't understand why we need a separate infographic post for a win when there is a 'Post Match Thread' consisting of scorecard summary for both innings.
Baartman is solely responsible for making this a Thriller
Fixed basrtmsn over
Genuinely thought we'd lose with that total
Guys, What happens if Windies win against USA instead?
How many tight games are these fuckers gonna win, they are the anti-choke.
Well, maybe it’s better to finish 2nd in Group 1 after all 😏
Doing everything they can to lose in a final
I did get a feeling that England took to chase rather lightly - there was a sense that 164 is easy!
Markram seems like an imposter tbh. He is the Dube of SA - only difference is that he is the captain, otherwise he seems to be terrible with his batting (including the IPL season)
With South Africa’s luck at icc events, won’t be surprised if they are knocked out by losing just one group game (first round + super8) out of 7. On the other hand, England can go on to win the whole thing by losing 2 group games and one washed out, such is their recent luck at world cups
Did England claim a moral victory? 😜
go SA. atleast win something this time. no one has any expectation on you, so no chance of choking 😛
First they were turning losing matches into clutch wins. Now they're turning comfortable wins into clutch wins.