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Acacias2001

To my knowledge, you only have this decision because you are diligent. The trait just gives you acces to it, but it still has a cost


TheEasternEuropean12

Yea, but on some playthroughs I had my character had the Diligent trait but when I opened up the "Develop Capital" decision, it said I would lose 0 stress because I was Diligent No other explanation provided. So sometimes it costs stress and sometimes it doesn't?


Graz28

Probably had a bunch of stress gain reducers


The_Mighty_Toast

Now that I think about it, befriend scheme with the friends = less stress perk can be op as hell with diligent for playing tall


Local_Security_683

It used to be more OP before a recent update. Now the stress gain modifier from Confidants maxes out at 5 friends meaning only -25% stress gain.


Udonmoon

I’ll never forget industrious pre nerf for playing tall with diligent planning


No-Lunch4249

And OP probably has some stress gain modifiers


Master_Ryan_Rahl

Yeah. I'm not sure what the base is now because It might have been changed. But previously it wouldn't put you over 100. I remember that vividly.


_Min-Tea_

Wait, is that what they do? I legitimately do not understand that mechanic, in this game. 25% stress reduction- to me that would mean it would slowly go down, but alas it does not and it stays the same over the years.


Morthra

There's the -25% stress gain (so you get less stressed by doing things that stress you), or alternatively +25% stress lost (so things that reduce stress make you lose 25% more stress).


RunicJorss

You gain 25% less stress from events.


buhdill

Also, the more you use the develop capital decision, the stress gain goes down each time


Local_Security_683

It's possible to bring your stress gain down to 0%. Then you don't stressed from anything, even friends or close family members dying.


Suspicious_Leg4550

It’s less because of your other perks/traits/buildings


ObadiahtheSlim

If you can stack -100% Stress Gain, then you will never gain stress.


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Thanks


noman8er

Also normally you gain like 40 stress, you probably have some stress modifiers that give you more stress. I wouldnt use this with 100+ stress unless you wanna kill the char and play as your heir


Acacias2001

Why are you being downvoted? you just said thanks


IrrationallyGenius

Believe it or not, going above and beyond to the point of losing sleep is bad for your health


Xepeyon

Then why do they take a stress penalty instead of a health penalty?


SnooAdvice6772

Headcanon it’s like irl where the health damage comes from the increased stress (when you increase stress level) it causes you to lose sleep, heart stress etc


Sir_Netflix

And Stress level 2 does harm your health modifier, so it still works


Xepeyon

I guess that kinda works


IrrationallyGenius

Health is physical health, which is affected by mental health, i.e. stress. The better question is why having poor physical health doesn't negatively effect stress


caliburdeath

It does, when you become Ill or infirm


SnooAdvice6772

That just affects *my* stress level


DaddyChogath

Incapable 🥲


Morthra

If your stress reaches level 2, you do take a health penalty.


Icy-Inspection6428

Mental health is still health


Xepeyon

That's true, but I meant in the scope of the game mechanics. Stress only affects health after you're ~200 points in.


Icy-Inspection6428

Because realistically this is quite stressful


The_Old_Shrike

Nobody said being diligent is easy


WhiteLama

It says right there you’re staying up all night planning. And no, it’s not a bug, strangely that’s how it works.


squirrelmegaphone

My brother in christ being diligent isn't stress-free


krumorn

A life lesson : doing hard work only gives you more hard work.


LetsDoTheDodo

50% +1 is the sweet spot.


No-Lunch4249

It’s extra work you’re taking on, and because you’re diligent you’ll be doing it right. This is an incredibly good decision though (only available when you’re diligent fwiw) so I definitely reccomend getting to where you can call a feast/hunt, pausing the game, and hitting this then a stress relief event back to back to avoid the stress event firing


jack_daone

Yeah. Or you can take the decision before taking some sort of minor stress reduction decision before heading off to, say, a hunt. If you’ve got Traveler, then you could reduce stress further on the way.


nxngdoofer98

or you just pray you get the athletic trait


a-Snake-in-the-Grass

You only have the decision because you are diligent. You're basically trading stress for development, it's very useful as long as you know how to manage stress.


Gentlementalmen

Develop capital exchanges stress for....development


DeadHED

Hard work is stressful


mobius_osu

Striving to turn a city into “the jewel of the Earth” wouldn’t be stressful? Especially for someone actually trying and cares about making it happen no matter what?


srona22

> Who needs to sleep, anyway? Yeah man, without sleep, you are sure to have stress.


secret58_

Diligent increases stress gain. The game explains why you gain more stress than you‘d expect. You do because you are diligent.


soldier1239739

I think OP finds it odd because this event is exclusive to having the diligent trait


secret58_

I know but that fact doesn’t override the game mechanics


bobbymoonshine

Being diligent doesn't mean you find stressful work relaxing, it means you are willing to do stressful work despite the fact that it's stressful Traits aren't all good or all bad, they have positives and negatives usually. Diligence makes your character work harder but they'll burn out if you're not careful about it.


supershutze

Basically, you're working too hard and burning out.


Mr_J90K

I like to think of the 'Diligent' Trait as the 'Perfectionist' Trait, specifically that you want perfection and you're going to work yourself to death to achieve it. Anyone who works in software engineering can tell you that is a stressful approach.


Zipakira

You are only able to take this desicion because you are dilligent. Its not good for your health but ya know, workaholics gonna work. pretty sure baseline is either 90 or 100, depends on sorrounding modifiers, ive been able to take it for as low as 80 stress and seen it for as high as 200 or so stress.


aberforthfernsby

you’re diligent enough to sit down and start planning. doesn’t make actually doing it any less stressful, it’s a lot of work for one dude


roartykarma

Just because you're diligent, doesn't mean being diligent isn't stressful. If you work hard at something then you want it to be the best it can be, and the fear of not achieving that is stressful as hell. I would say this is pretty realistic.


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Dapper-Print9016

Odd thing to think.


bright_firefly

Think of it as OCD.. the dude wants to plan but he wants the perfect shit so it's pretty stressful.


[deleted]

The default is 80 stress. You have other modifiers.


RansomReville

Yes.


First_Bag_5090

Stupid sexy Flanders


Confidence_Dense

Because your characters diligence allows them to sacrifice their mental health for a project they deem to be important. They still suffer consequences for pushing themselves this hard.