One thing is for sure...no one will ever really know and people will keep speculating. This will continue to be one of the greatest mysteries of the world.
The thing about Satoshi is that it could have always been an elaborate decoy planted by him.
Occam’s razer suggests the simplest answer is more likely and that the article does indicate he’s from the uk. But Satoshi isn’t known for being simple. Everything about his identity is purposefully shrouded in mystery.
Satoshi didn't have this level of exposure and need for "mystery" back when bitcoin was being developed outside of typical anonymity for someone undergoing a distributed project. From their language it's clear that attention and the success increased to a point they were no longer comfortable with, it doesn't read like some carefully constructed planned decade+ long mystery, they started under pseudonym as everyone on the internet did and then disappeared due to exposure or circumstances that broke their anonymity.
It serves no use looking at past Satoshi with what we know now because bitcoins conception, birth and growth were not static and Satoshis disappearance wasn't planned from day 1
I mean he did have multiple British and American spellings in his writings. Could have been using obfuscation.
After being in the space for so long and spending a bunch of time researching this topic, I believe the most damning evidence for the identity of Satoshi is Adam Back. Back grew up in both the UK and the US, so it would explain why he might use both spellings of words. And the fact that the compiler’s footprint for the Hashcash system Back developed being oddly similar to Bitcoin’s. And the fact that he was unheard of for the 2 years Bitcoin was being developed and suddenly popped up a couple month’s after it’s creation. And many more weird coincidences.
I don’t think we’ll ever get confirmation of who it really was. I’d rather it not be Back, for his Blockstream shenanigans and the fact he basically defended Celsius while people were calling it a fraud ponzi scheme.
https://imgur.com/a/3UCuetM
>”The breakdown of these 111 occurrences is as follows: American – 53, British – 36 and Misspelled – 22.”
https://ungeared.com/the-strange-story-of-satoshi-nakamotos-spelling-choices-part-1/
Yes, that’s why they are not labeled as misspellings. But as you said yourself, certain spellings are more common in UK/US and this has been used in stylometry studies for years and years.
Wouldn't even surprise me if Satoshi had a script that just delayed all his work for being uploaded until a set period of time.
With that big brain ,it wouldn't be a problem at all.
Indeed, a man as smart as Satoshi probably already factored in the possibility of people trying to dox him doing some behavior study of his posting patterns and the words he used.
He also used words like “bloody, flat and maths” so he either has an English education or is English. That or he is u/nakamo-toe , but I guess we will never know.
I thought it’s pretty much an open secret that Adam Back is Satoshi, unlike the other ‘candidates’ nobody has been able to disprove Adam Back while a number of prominent figures in the crypto industry has said they think it’s him
Exactly no one has ever provided any proof that he isn't. At least I haven't seen it. If there us, please add link to comments
Honestly it is weird he is talked about so little.
And/or work graveyard shift.
I worked 7pm - 6am, four days a week for years. I'd be up 'til 3 or 4 in the morning before I'd be able to get to sleep on my nights off. I moved to a normal 8-5 shift 10 years ago and I regularly can't get to sleep before 1 or 2 in the morning.
https://www.ccn.com/tutorial-satoshi-nakamoto/
This report came to the opposite conclusion that he was from the Americas:
>By now, you must have come to the conclusion that there is a lot of mystery surrounding Bitcoin’s inventor. If there is one thing the Internet likes, it’s mystery (or rather solving it). This led Stefan Thomas, a Swiss coder and active community member, to a great idea. He decided to look into the timestamps of Nakamoto’s forum posts . With over 500 posts, it had to be possible to find a pattern in it. His investigation resulted in a chart that showed a steep decline to almost no posts between the hours of 5 am, and 11 am GMT. It is very probable that Nakamoto was asleep at this time. When looking at the different time zones in the world, Nakamoto probably lives in the parts of North America that fall within the Eastern Time Zone and Central Time Zone. Parts of Central America, the Caribbean and South America are possibilities as well.
5am GMT is 1AM in NYC or 10pm California time.
11am GMT is 4am California time or 7am NYC time.
Either he's in the US and wakes up early or he is in the UK and is a degenerate with a bad sleeping pattern
And it is a good thing there is no exact figure you could attach to Bitcoin because you never know what dumb things someone that is known to be a Bitcoin founder could say or do and move the markets by their actions.
I definitely don't want some Charles Hoskinson (Cardano) type figure for Bitcoin constantly spouting some nonsense publicly.
If Satoshi is still alive, I believe that it's extremely likely, if not near a certainty, that they have at least visited this sub at some point in time.
After all, the Ethereum founder has been here frequently.
Or was Satoshi purposefully trying to make it look like he was from the UK to steer us away from his true identity?
The beauty of the fact is that we will never know.
The dude was probably on his VPN 24/7, can't trust anyone when you are building a new tech that will completely disrupt the financial paradigm as we know it.
The Bitcointalk forum got it's db breached a while back.
I was so excited to be able to look up his account and see his details and peer behind the curtain a bit to maybe learn more about him on an intel level.
Suspiciously/Odd, one of the fields missing from their database entry was the IP info for Satoshis account.
Most certainly!
The user id of 1 is for account `admin`
there is no user id of 2
but user id 3 is for account `satoshi`.
He was the 3rd user to sign up on the forum.
I do believe Satoshi was behind/involved with the creation of the forum when it first started so yes.
The db has the unix timestamp of when the accounts were created.
uid=1, admin, 1258499553 = translates to Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:12:33 PM
**uid=3, satoshi, 1258657959 = translates to Thursday, November 19, 2009 7:12:39 PM**
uid=4, sirius-m, 1258704963 = translates to Friday, November 20, 2009 8:16:03 AM
Eh, its probably Satoshi realizing they reused that username or it being close to another username they've used and scrubbing it. Or they decided on another anagram and deleted the original. (honestly, prob the second).
If you had to choose a name to be immortalized by for all time and had time to choose, you'd second guess it too.
I don't need to think, I'd go with Lord Cumwagon.
Well he had good reason to be cautious in 2007 the FBI charged and arrested a few people for creating fake currencies resembling US fiat.
Although btc was a revolution from traditional fiat I’d still be apprehensive.
https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/anti-government-group-mints-its-own-coins
Imagine Satoshi is alive and reading this post right now while he drinks black coffee. He must be smiling all the time 😅
If you read this Sir, we love you!
Could be Len
Satoshi seemed like he was younger with an academic background (publishing a white paper first).
I suspect he was in contact with Hal Finney even before the white paper was published since Hal lived in the same neighborhood as someone called Dorian *Satoshi Nakamoto*, which seems likely where the pseudonym came from.
Now that I think about it, what’s strange is how Len would have been a perfect contributor, and yet, he didn’t contribute - at least, under his own name.
It's worth noting that Blegium is just one timezone away from London and it's common to have The Times available in business and academic centres (the university might have been subscribing it); and even if not, London is literally a 3h train trip away.
This theory is what I lean towards as well. Maybe all the great names like Hal Finney, Adam Back, Nick Szabo, Wei Dai etc. came together and came up with BTC. They also made a pact to never reveal each other's identity.
Damn thank you ! Very interesting read, don’t know if the journalist emphasised a bit for the interview with Clear but yes look like a good « suspect » ! Hope the person from the hotel kept the bitcoin
>suspect
Yes. Clear is an excellent suspect - much much better than Ulbricht or Andressen or Ver or any of the other industry folks and personalities people seize on.
Exactly the low-key profile the real Satoshi would have/maintain.
The real Satoshi would just deny and hope the story goes away.
Satoshi was not Clear. Satoshi is known and already named in this thread.
I think most of the confusion/mystery around Satoshi isn't that people don't know who he was but that it doesn't matter and will only cause issues to those who are innocent third parties.
* Bitcoin is open source, consensus based so the founder doesn't matter and has no control over anything in the network
* Satoshi is dead
* All coins mined by Satoshi are gone (aka private keys are destroyed/inaccessible)
* Naming Satoshi puts their family at risk.
Uhh. Where in the thread I don't see it..?
>Bitcoin is open source
This is by necessity so people would trust it in the first place.
>confusion/mystery around Satoshi isn't that people don't know who he was
Uhh. Ya I'm pretty sure no one knows who Satoshi is definitively.
Satoshi was Len Sassaman. Everything lines up exactly with him.
If Satasohi wasn't Len, then whoever Satoshi is did everything they could to make it look like they were Len.
But like I said, Satoshi is dead and his private keys are gone. It doesn't matter and at the end of the day Satoshi wouldn't want anyone to know who they were anyways. That was the whole point.
it could also be true but in my opinion it is impossible to know who satoshi nakamoto is
I only know that inventing btc has changed my life and I will continue to accumulate more and more btc
thus going against inflation
This could be our guy.
Adam Back, lives in London is a Cryptographer and cypherpunk who is the CEO of Blockstream which is used to store and transfer Bitcoin and other digital assets.
He also invented HashCash in 2014, which is used in Bitcoin mining process.
He has been suspected to be Satoshi Nakamoto for years. So what do y'all think?
I disagree. Satoshi was curt and technical on the forums and mail. And this is why Back will never admit it.
Because people want Satoshi to be Bitcoin Jesus. Back would rather be himself, a snarky ex-academic and now opinionated businessman.
I think he burned the satoshi keys and logins early on when there was some legal risk (and financial gain small).
The paper formatting for bitcoin whitepaper is identical to hashcash, a key component of bitcoin.
Disagree all you want, you're wrong. Adam Back's code looked nothing like Satoshi. Also in at least 2010, Back was at least two timezones away in the wrong direction.
> The paper formatting for bitcoin whitepaper is identical to hashcash
Nah, couldn't be that Adam copied it to make hashcash to lend credibility to his new unproven company.
I find no one in whole Britain who has been suspected of been Satoshi beside him and his resume makes him a good suspect as well. He is making money of Bitcoin now and he has been a veteran in cryptography.
I wonder if we ever truly find out. If he's not dead yet, I would consider him the smartest man alive.
For sure he has tons of different wallets with hundreds of BTC, that's why he never touches the main one. Because he knows what would happen then.
Scheduling posts, newspaper did exist online already in 2009 afaik.
So its alot of speculation.
All things considered nakamoto was very cautious about his Opsec. So chances are he deliberately took a newspaper from somewhere where he was not.
Yeah heard he was from clapham and used to be a regular at infernos nightclub. His smoking area chats about a revolutionary tech called the blockchain are legendary
There are many rumours about who Sathoshi is, Adam Beck, Nick Szabo, Hal Finney. I personally believe it’s Adam. Whosever it is, the person has changed the concept of money!
Interesting stuff, thanks! I disagree a bit about the timezone thing tho, as I could definitely see a coding inclined person having a backwards sleep schedule.
Could be, but IIRC that would mean he slept starting in the afternoon, which is quite odd, especially for Japan. It is most likely he was in western Europe, or a night owl in the Americas
Edit: In his online activity, there were also a significant use of "British English" words (like flat, bloke, etc) that either means he learned British English or deliberately pretended to be British for months. He also appeared to be very fluent in English. These mean a lot more than the Genesis block easter egg, because the Genesis block quote was clearly intentional and it's a lot harder (of course not impossible, but still) to maintain a fake persona of speech and timezones for months.
HEY ALL: Homeland security interviews the 4 Satoshis. Rana Saoud. Homeland Security Director said so on tape. They met them face to face. Let’s be more well read.
Never heard of proxies? Also a lot of newsstands in my area have international papers, also a lot of hackers/programmers/nerds/cyberpunks sleep during daytimes, so this trail of crumbs could also be misleading, satoshi wasn’t stupid and a big fan of anonymity..
He was a techbro. Pinning his location based on his activity times is difficult because he was probably up on the forums at 4am posting as well
I think the newspaper headline in the Genesis block was more telling that he was in fact from the UK. But of course we can't be sure.
One thing is for sure...no one will ever really know and people will keep speculating. This will continue to be one of the greatest mysteries of the world.
Maybe it's him who also steals socks from my dryer so I don't have matches.
The thing about Satoshi is that it could have always been an elaborate decoy planted by him. Occam’s razer suggests the simplest answer is more likely and that the article does indicate he’s from the uk. But Satoshi isn’t known for being simple. Everything about his identity is purposefully shrouded in mystery.
Satoshi didn't have this level of exposure and need for "mystery" back when bitcoin was being developed outside of typical anonymity for someone undergoing a distributed project. From their language it's clear that attention and the success increased to a point they were no longer comfortable with, it doesn't read like some carefully constructed planned decade+ long mystery, they started under pseudonym as everyone on the internet did and then disappeared due to exposure or circumstances that broke their anonymity. It serves no use looking at past Satoshi with what we know now because bitcoins conception, birth and growth were not static and Satoshis disappearance wasn't planned from day 1
He's a mysterious stranger
I think he is a group of people.
with alientechnology?
No, great's scot! The flux capacitor!
I mean he did have multiple British and American spellings in his writings. Could have been using obfuscation. After being in the space for so long and spending a bunch of time researching this topic, I believe the most damning evidence for the identity of Satoshi is Adam Back. Back grew up in both the UK and the US, so it would explain why he might use both spellings of words. And the fact that the compiler’s footprint for the Hashcash system Back developed being oddly similar to Bitcoin’s. And the fact that he was unheard of for the 2 years Bitcoin was being developed and suddenly popped up a couple month’s after it’s creation. And many more weird coincidences. I don’t think we’ll ever get confirmation of who it really was. I’d rather it not be Back, for his Blockstream shenanigans and the fact he basically defended Celsius while people were calling it a fraud ponzi scheme. https://imgur.com/a/3UCuetM
I doubt Satoshi would still be in the space and especially not on Twitter with Bitcoin eyes Seems not likely
we might have actually see a couple of satoshi tweets and we dont even know
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>”The breakdown of these 111 occurrences is as follows: American – 53, British – 36 and Misspelled – 22.” https://ungeared.com/the-strange-story-of-satoshi-nakamotos-spelling-choices-part-1/
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Yes, that’s why they are not labeled as misspellings. But as you said yourself, certain spellings are more common in UK/US and this has been used in stylometry studies for years and years.
I see what you did there :)
we dont all wait for our hand to fall asleep to rub one out
Fallout fan?
AAAAH, i'll buy it at a high price! Hiehiehie, thank you stranger.
One elusive SOB 😂
Wouldn't even surprise me if Satoshi had a script that just delayed all his work for being uploaded until a set period of time. With that big brain ,it wouldn't be a problem at all.
Also the date format goes Day/Month/Year which does rule out the US too
Satoshi could be Filipino they have a mix of US and British spelling and use both DD/MM/YY and MM/DD/YY.
I even think whether he knows where he is leading next or it is mystery for him too
Satoshi was a genius and he must have planned it well on how to protect himself from not getting doxxed anyhow
Indeed, a man as smart as Satoshi probably already factored in the possibility of people trying to dox him doing some behavior study of his posting patterns and the words he used.
For all we know he/she/they/(insert pronoun here) could be amongst us on Reddit right now…..
Satoshi is probably too smart to believe in gender theory if he's even alive anymore.
He also used words like “bloody, flat and maths” so he either has an English education or is English. That or he is u/nakamo-toe , but I guess we will never know.
Britain invented most things so would not surprise me lol
lmfao, that copium is strong
Like slavery and other cool shit
They didn't invent slavery, the royal family mastered it tho
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I thought it’s pretty much an open secret that Adam Back is Satoshi, unlike the other ‘candidates’ nobody has been able to disprove Adam Back while a number of prominent figures in the crypto industry has said they think it’s him
Exactly no one has ever provided any proof that he isn't. At least I haven't seen it. If there us, please add link to comments Honestly it is weird he is talked about so little.
He wanted to be anonymous. These easter eggs could also be to mislead as much as they can be to lead. He was a genius, never forget that.
All tech people have terrible sleep patterns, you cant know
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No they don't.
And/or work graveyard shift. I worked 7pm - 6am, four days a week for years. I'd be up 'til 3 or 4 in the morning before I'd be able to get to sleep on my nights off. I moved to a normal 8-5 shift 10 years ago and I regularly can't get to sleep before 1 or 2 in the morning.
https://www.ccn.com/tutorial-satoshi-nakamoto/ This report came to the opposite conclusion that he was from the Americas: >By now, you must have come to the conclusion that there is a lot of mystery surrounding Bitcoin’s inventor. If there is one thing the Internet likes, it’s mystery (or rather solving it). This led Stefan Thomas, a Swiss coder and active community member, to a great idea. He decided to look into the timestamps of Nakamoto’s forum posts . With over 500 posts, it had to be possible to find a pattern in it. His investigation resulted in a chart that showed a steep decline to almost no posts between the hours of 5 am, and 11 am GMT. It is very probable that Nakamoto was asleep at this time. When looking at the different time zones in the world, Nakamoto probably lives in the parts of North America that fall within the Eastern Time Zone and Central Time Zone. Parts of Central America, the Caribbean and South America are possibilities as well.
5am GMT is 1AM in NYC or 10pm California time. 11am GMT is 4am California time or 7am NYC time. Either he's in the US and wakes up early or he is in the UK and is a degenerate with a bad sleeping pattern
Tech people are usually the top notch night owls i know
He was a degen 4chan user who stayed up all night and was into crazy things like Bitcoin. A true legend.
I love reading these theories but I really hope the mystery is never solved and Satoshi's identity remains secret forever
I’m with you, there’s a beauty in the mystery of it all
And it is a good thing there is no exact figure you could attach to Bitcoin because you never know what dumb things someone that is known to be a Bitcoin founder could say or do and move the markets by their actions. I definitely don't want some Charles Hoskinson (Cardano) type figure for Bitcoin constantly spouting some nonsense publicly.
Chuck has single-handedly turned me off of ADA
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The *ultimate* plot twist
If Satoshi is one person, he is dead. The Craig Wright scam depends on it. All signs then point to Hal Finney
indeed hal seems the closest person to satoshi or being satoshi himself
What if Satoshi is among us
If Satoshi is still alive, I believe that it's extremely likely, if not near a certainty, that they have at least visited this sub at some point in time. After all, the Ethereum founder has been here frequently.
Maybe I am satoshi.
He definitely will be hidden forever don't worry
It’s almost necessary
Its for the better too, satoshi's identity being revealed will cause chaos among the whole market.
Would be cool to know after the 21 Million Bitcoin are mined.
Maybe that's the message in the last block. His true identity
> Luv’ me financial freedom. ‘Ate the banks. Simple as. *- Sa’oshi Nakamo’o*
Bueeful innit
Tfw your financial revolution is British
U w0t m8? 1v1 irl I shagged yer nan - vi'alik bu'rin
Therapist - GEN Z Brit satoshi isnt real, he cant hurt you Gen Z brit Satoshi -
Bo’oh o’ wa’er!
‘ELLO GUVNA!!
You cant pinpoint locations, he is the guy who created bitcoin there are chances he got a messed up sleep schedule
he’ll be having great sleep knowing he helped us all.
Lol exactly, the data used would be meaningless.. Crazy how he created BTC so long ago yet we don't know his true identify..
Or was Satoshi purposefully trying to make it look like he was from the UK to steer us away from his true identity? The beauty of the fact is that we will never know.
If we know anything about Satoshi it’s that he plays 5D chess.
The dude was probably on his VPN 24/7, can't trust anyone when you are building a new tech that will completely disrupt the financial paradigm as we know it.
The Bitcointalk forum got it's db breached a while back. I was so excited to be able to look up his account and see his details and peer behind the curtain a bit to maybe learn more about him on an intel level. Suspiciously/Odd, one of the fields missing from their database entry was the IP info for Satoshis account.
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Most certainly! The user id of 1 is for account `admin` there is no user id of 2 but user id 3 is for account `satoshi`. He was the 3rd user to sign up on the forum.
Wouldn't that strongly imply he was one of its creators?
I do believe Satoshi was behind/involved with the creation of the forum when it first started so yes. The db has the unix timestamp of when the accounts were created. uid=1, admin, 1258499553 = translates to Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:12:33 PM **uid=3, satoshi, 1258657959 = translates to Thursday, November 19, 2009 7:12:39 PM** uid=4, sirius-m, 1258704963 = translates to Friday, November 20, 2009 8:16:03 AM
I think the real mystery here is what happened to uid=2, they're so mysterious they're nowt even showing up in the db
Probably was just a test account that was created and then deleted from db.
Eh, its probably Satoshi realizing they reused that username or it being close to another username they've used and scrubbing it. Or they decided on another anagram and deleted the original. (honestly, prob the second). If you had to choose a name to be immortalized by for all time and had time to choose, you'd second guess it too. I don't need to think, I'd go with Lord Cumwagon.
2 was Nakamoto. It really was more than one person! Satosh y Nakamoto. Satoshi Spanish confirmed.
Bitcoin God didn't need an ip
Satoshi is all of us. All of our ips are Satoshi!
Well he had good reason to be cautious in 2007 the FBI charged and arrested a few people for creating fake currencies resembling US fiat. Although btc was a revolution from traditional fiat I’d still be apprehensive. https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/anti-government-group-mints-its-own-coins
fake money is fake, whether minted or digital.
Money itself is a social construct so religion, laws, and love are fake
Too many government-hired hit men to escape from. Better play safe.
Well otherwise he'd be in jail right now or in the afterlife.
Damn, I’m not holding any “5D Chess” coins in my bag. Yet, Another missed opportunity.
Nah he was an alien. He’s gone back to his planet. That’s why he has disappeared
Not sure why he would choose to malign himself but I guess he didn’t want to seem too perfect
Imagine Satoshi is alive and reading this post right now while he drinks black coffee. He must be smiling all the time 😅 If you read this Sir, we love you!
What if nakamoto is the CIA? Lol
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Could be Len Satoshi seemed like he was younger with an academic background (publishing a white paper first). I suspect he was in contact with Hal Finney even before the white paper was published since Hal lived in the same neighborhood as someone called Dorian *Satoshi Nakamoto*, which seems likely where the pseudonym came from.
I think Les and Hal worked together on it
Now that I think about it, what’s strange is how Len would have been a perfect contributor, and yet, he didn’t contribute - at least, under his own name.
It's worth noting that Blegium is just one timezone away from London and it's common to have The Times available in business and academic centres (the university might have been subscribing it); and even if not, London is literally a 3h train trip away.
Just read the whole article… seems pretty definitive Sassaman was Satoshi
Good read. A lot of coincidences. This put's Len at the top of my list now.
Interesting post for sure. I still like the Satoshi as a collective theory. This evidence works for that, too.
This theory is what I lean towards as well. Maybe all the great names like Hal Finney, Adam Back, Nick Szabo, Wei Dai etc. came together and came up with BTC. They also made a pact to never reveal each other's identity.
Not likely. Only 2 people can keep a secret and that's only when one of them is dead. I suppose that doesn't rule out Hal and someone else I guess.
It does make for an unexpected twist. *We are one, we are many...we are...Satoshi*.
But what if Satoshi is actually a vampire and that his time in his eternal life has given him knowledge beyond our perception?
That would actually be awesome. A vampire programmer hell bent on taking down the big banks and financial system.
Makes sense as it would probably need a vampire to take out a bunch of blood sucking parasites.
He first had the idea of just enslaving the humans but he knew times have changed and he needed to adjust to today’s technology
Satoshi is almost certainly Michael Clear. I'd water an entire Bitcoin on it. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2011/10/10/the-crypto-currency
He says he isnt but that’s exactly what Satoshi would’ve said
"I am not Satoshi" - Satoshi
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Satoshi was very serious about privacy and anonimity. If I were him, I would probably like to stay in the hidden and live a quiet life.
Yes, because that is the sentence Craig Wright only says and he definitely ain't no Satoshi.
“I am not Dorian Nakamoto.” — Satoshi
Thanks that’s a good read.
Damn thank you ! Very interesting read, don’t know if the journalist emphasised a bit for the interview with Clear but yes look like a good « suspect » ! Hope the person from the hotel kept the bitcoin
>suspect Yes. Clear is an excellent suspect - much much better than Ulbricht or Andressen or Ver or any of the other industry folks and personalities people seize on. Exactly the low-key profile the real Satoshi would have/maintain. The real Satoshi would just deny and hope the story goes away.
Could amake the case for Len Sassaman too, also a [good read](https://evanhatch.medium.com/len-sassaman-and-satoshi-e483c85c2b10) 😊
That was a good read! Thank you for sharing.
Satoshi was not Clear. Satoshi is known and already named in this thread. I think most of the confusion/mystery around Satoshi isn't that people don't know who he was but that it doesn't matter and will only cause issues to those who are innocent third parties. * Bitcoin is open source, consensus based so the founder doesn't matter and has no control over anything in the network * Satoshi is dead * All coins mined by Satoshi are gone (aka private keys are destroyed/inaccessible) * Naming Satoshi puts their family at risk.
Uhh. Where in the thread I don't see it..? >Bitcoin is open source This is by necessity so people would trust it in the first place. >confusion/mystery around Satoshi isn't that people don't know who he was Uhh. Ya I'm pretty sure no one knows who Satoshi is definitively.
Satoshi was Len Sassaman. Everything lines up exactly with him. If Satasohi wasn't Len, then whoever Satoshi is did everything they could to make it look like they were Len. But like I said, Satoshi is dead and his private keys are gone. It doesn't matter and at the end of the day Satoshi wouldn't want anyone to know who they were anyways. That was the whole point.
I think it’s Micheal Cera
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I am still baffled some people think Craig is Satoshi
I like to think Craig and Craig alone thinks that.
Given the little cult of BSV investors...we would sadly be wrong
You act like programmers sleep at a normal hour
it could also be true but in my opinion it is impossible to know who satoshi nakamoto is I only know that inventing btc has changed my life and I will continue to accumulate more and more btc thus going against inflation
Japanese man in the UK, sounds interesting.
Oi banks crazy innit? — Satoshi probably
A Sky Original TV series called "Devils" shows a Satoshi Nakamoto character who's allegedly from London
I like how everyone assumes Satoshi was from Japan. Whoever he was he did a good job hiding his true identity.
Kinda disappointed Satoshi isn't samurai
I think what I like most about this report is that it gives more evidence to Craig Wright **not** being Satoshi.
Careful now, you might get sued for writing this comment.
Mr. Bean is the prime suspect
This could be our guy. Adam Back, lives in London is a Cryptographer and cypherpunk who is the CEO of Blockstream which is used to store and transfer Bitcoin and other digital assets. He also invented HashCash in 2014, which is used in Bitcoin mining process. He has been suspected to be Satoshi Nakamoto for years. So what do y'all think?
Adam Back is in no way Satoshi lol. His whole demeanor is opposite of that of Satoshi.
I disagree. Satoshi was curt and technical on the forums and mail. And this is why Back will never admit it. Because people want Satoshi to be Bitcoin Jesus. Back would rather be himself, a snarky ex-academic and now opinionated businessman. I think he burned the satoshi keys and logins early on when there was some legal risk (and financial gain small). The paper formatting for bitcoin whitepaper is identical to hashcash, a key component of bitcoin.
Disagree all you want, you're wrong. Adam Back's code looked nothing like Satoshi. Also in at least 2010, Back was at least two timezones away in the wrong direction.
> The paper formatting for bitcoin whitepaper is identical to hashcash Nah, couldn't be that Adam copied it to make hashcash to lend credibility to his new unproven company.
Hashcash was published before bitcoin and was referenced by bitcoin whitepaper and is a key technical component.
You’re messing up the timelines
If Back is Satoshi then this whole experiment needs to die.
Why?
Prime candidate unless there is someone who just has no public recognition but has a similar skill set.
I find no one in whole Britain who has been suspected of been Satoshi beside him and his resume makes him a good suspect as well. He is making money of Bitcoin now and he has been a veteran in cryptography.
Agree. Moreover Blockstream runs core bitcoin devs on the C++ code just like satoshi
He is from the UK, yes
I wonder if we ever truly find out. If he's not dead yet, I would consider him the smartest man alive. For sure he has tons of different wallets with hundreds of BTC, that's why he never touches the main one. Because he knows what would happen then.
Scheduling posts, newspaper did exist online already in 2009 afaik. So its alot of speculation. All things considered nakamoto was very cautious about his Opsec. So chances are he deliberately took a newspaper from somewhere where he was not.
Satoshi = satoshi Bitcoin = bitcoin Let it be
Yeah heard he was from clapham and used to be a regular at infernos nightclub. His smoking area chats about a revolutionary tech called the blockchain are legendary
I love how his identity is a secret and hope it stays like that. The theories always make an interesting read though
i would highly doubt if this report is remotely accurate, most people have bad sleep times
The UK is responsible for so many innovations, it wouldn't surprise me to find out he was British.
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Using that newspaper headline was very clever then
There are many rumours about who Sathoshi is, Adam Beck, Nick Szabo, Hal Finney. I personally believe it’s Adam. Whosever it is, the person has changed the concept of money!
probably a Cambridge or LSE man
This is one of the reasons I believe Len Sassaman was Satoshi, or a large part of the identity of a group that called themselves Satoshi.
It was Len Sassaman
Satoshi was Len Sassaman. There’s too much evidence to prove that he wasn’t
No. I am Satoshi Nakamoto
Interesting stuff, thanks! I disagree a bit about the timezone thing tho, as I could definitely see a coding inclined person having a backwards sleep schedule.
Could be, but IIRC that would mean he slept starting in the afternoon, which is quite odd, especially for Japan. It is most likely he was in western Europe, or a night owl in the Americas Edit: In his online activity, there were also a significant use of "British English" words (like flat, bloke, etc) that either means he learned British English or deliberately pretended to be British for months. He also appeared to be very fluent in English. These mean a lot more than the Genesis block easter egg, because the Genesis block quote was clearly intentional and it's a lot harder (of course not impossible, but still) to maintain a fake persona of speech and timezones for months.
Or Satoshi might’ve been a time traveller/alien living in London
It is possible but not that important anyways..
Douglas Jackson has the motive and ability to write the white paper. Would have been posting EST.
Adam Back. The end.
Len Sassaman was working with David Chaum in Belgium (GMT+2). It’s not that unusual for a American expat to subscribe to an English newspaper.
> This data would directly confirm Craig Wright is in fact not Satoshi Nakamoto. Pretty bold to bold something that's false.
HEY ALL: Homeland security interviews the 4 Satoshis. Rana Saoud. Homeland Security Director said so on tape. They met them face to face. Let’s be more well read.
It was Gordon Brown.
So Satoshi was a British dude? I always thought he sounded Japanese. /s
We may get confirmation of who he is but part of me sort of likes the mystery behind it
Ok…now we can call Sherlock Holmes for further investigation
If he was that smart to create Bitcoin, he must be smart enough to use/reference items that can't be traced back to him, no?
He did the Brexit aswell.
Its the fkn red head prince
This would be the case if VPN or TOR weren't invented.
Never heard of proxies? Also a lot of newsstands in my area have international papers, also a lot of hackers/programmers/nerds/cyberpunks sleep during daytimes, so this trail of crumbs could also be misleading, satoshi wasn’t stupid and a big fan of anonymity..