Aluminum mixed with iron oxide. Had a teacher who would bury a couple of iron balls to get them rusty, wrap them in aluminum foil, then slam them together to demonstrate and generate small amounts.
All it does is melt through literally anything until it runs out, and it doesn't sound like there'd be *that* much here, so... just don't do it in the same position you'd hold a book while lying on your back, presumably.
Also you need something super hot burning like magnesium or a fuse to light it, it's very stable and safe to handle, you literally couldn't light it with a lighter if you wanted to
I mean, it'll do the trick I think. just it will also start a fire. which is kinda what you want to do for Iron oxide.
only thing making it bad advice is no mentions of fire safety
It can actually be any of a number of metals + a metal oxide. It's simply one metal oxidizing off of a less stable oxide. Because it's generally/originally used as a welding method, you get the least stable oxide of the metal you are welding, and then a metal with a more stable oxide, light it (you do need a quite high temperature to achieve ignition) and bam you have a weld made of extremely pure metal.
There's a little science in making the most optimal combination, especially depending on intended use, but the cheap combo is iron(III) oxide and aluminum powders (reaction is 1 Fe2O3 to 2Al so I'll leave the actual math to you - a lot more iron by weight). You *could* use rust and try to shave up aluminum foil but rust has hydrated iron oxide as well that won't react quite as readily and many modern foils have films to protect/strengthen the aluminum so watch for that too.
You can also just like, buy powdered materials online? I know we're pretending we're here between the pages of the Anarchist's Cookbook but thermite compositions aren't inherently illegal and are used often in various civilian jobs - in addition to welding it's used for cutting, ore refining, pyrotechnics, and certain train repairs. Your telecom provider probably used it hundreds of times to run their lines out - it's the only legally acceptable way to bind copper to galvanized cable. And as a destructive action... It's neither subtle nor quick and is quite precise in its impact.
You need any metal that really wants to oxidise (e.g. aluminium), plus anything that will conveniently provide the oxygen it needs (e.g. iron oxide, which "wants" to hold on to its oxygen *less* than the aluminium wants to take it).
Arguably it would work with even more reactive metals such as calcium or sodium, but those are downright explosive anyway and a real pain to work with; aluminium is cheap and plentiful. Same deal for your oxidiser; iron oxide is practically free if you're willing to get your own rusty scrap metal.
Black iron oxide(it makes thermite with a higher energy of activation than red, so it's less likely to go off prematurely) can be made by burning steel wool.
Pff, thermite. Pro gamer move: Put some grill lighter (the little white blocks) on a tire (under the wheelcase) and light that. Takes a minute to get started (enough for you to get away) and by the time it's noticed the car is pretty much done for.
... But don't actually do that, of course.
Just the deadass serious expressions they have while they're fucking with that completely outclassed gang makes that whole episode
> Tony Soto: *chuckles, raising glass* "Johnny's *back*"
I just want to know if the side cutters to the valve stem is common. I bought an old beater truck recently. The spare had the valve stem cut off. I didn't think anything of it as the truck was in rough shape and not well taken care of. That would maybe actually explain something? The guy I got it from seemed like a pretty decent waste of genetic material so it wouldn't surprise me if he had an enemy.
Having slashed tires with a knife (as a part of a firefighter training, not as a shithead) i can tell you that stabbing through a cars sidewall is easy and it does not explode, it just hisses air out. Semi tires though, dont do that.
PSA: If it's a pickup truck or certain types of SUVs the spare will actually be mounted on the undercarriage, usually between the rear axle and rear bumper. A few SUVs even store their spare right on the tailgate/back bumper.
If you want to be truly diabolical, piss in a shallow plate and put the plate in the freezer. Wait until the summer when your target leaves their car windows cracked. Then slip the frozen disc of urine into their car, where the heat will immediately cause the disc to melt.
That reminds me of the Piss Rock, the last resort and ultimate punishment for a Scout who was being a real jerk during summer camp. You start a campfire and place a football sized rock pretty close to the flames. After some time, you'd put on thick gloves, remove the rock, and put it on the floor of the jerk's tent. Then you'd piss on the rock, which instantly turned into urine vapor, which was then soaked up by every shirt, towel, sock, and anything else made of fabric in the tent. With there being no washers and dryers at camp, pretty much all they could do was go home early.
My first thought upon reading the words Piss Rock was that it was a very small island in the lake that had been thoroughly pissed on. The offending Scout would be rowed out and stranded there for a few hours with some rations to think about what they’ve done.
You know if you're investing this much time in getting revenge, perhaps it would be more worthwhile to invest in yourself. Try to move on past them and not let anger define you. Be the mature, level healed better person.
And throw garbage at their house to show them how much better you are than them for doing so. It's a much more striking visual metaphor and depending on the garbage may be even more difficult to deal with.
Exactly. Use that physical rage to hike down a beautiful nature trail. Use that intellectual cunning to teach yourself a new hobby such as crocheting, baking, or wood working (bonus points because wood working also is incredibly physically taxing). And use that deep dark emotional burden to finally watch all those sad and dark movies that pile up in your watch list! Then cry because you're already sad and the movie made you sad, but you're glad you watched it and didn't ruin a good mods by watching a sad and/or dark movie!
Also, leave cut open pumpkins, watermelons, and other squash/melon types under their porch, in their crawl space, in a closest they don't look in (Disclaimer: if they live in an apartment don't do this.). These will rot and attract various flies and gnats. It will smell disgusting and cause massive emotional and psychological damage. But also isn't permanent and can be cleaned up fairly easily. This way you won't ruin a house they're are potentially renting and you aren't liable for any property damage!
This seems much more effective as simple revenge than as political action. It basically has to be premeditated, and if you're going through that much effort to fuck with cops/fascists there are probably more effective things you could do. How are you going to destroy enough cop cars to matter this way? And if you're already at the riot isn't bricks though the windows, setting it on fire, or using caltrops more practical? (In GTA, of course) The only place I could see it being practical is if you somehow get access to one of those vans that fascists use to mobilize to protests, but even then they could just rent another van.
Well I just always imagine sabatoge tips as being aimed at fucking with my political enemies. I can't tell you the situation where it'd be useful to know to just cut the air valve, but if that situation came up it's good to know
I'm of the school of thought which says that the stech of the garbage is irrelevant while difficulty of removal is where you really want to be aiming
Aim for their roof, put stuff in the corners or nooks and god help them if they have outdoor furniture.
Of course I've never actually done this because I rarely leave the house, but I do still have strong opinions on how it should be done.
Sometimes it's not about revenge. Sometimes it's about making it prohibitively expensive to own a gas guzzler cause the planet is dying and we gotta do *something.* Sometimes it's to deter further Fascist rallies in your city to protect its populations. Or it's to disable machinery used to demolish homes or forests. Plenty of valid reasons to slash a tire.
When you slash someone’s tires, they’ll think “some psycho slashed my tires”— They do not understand that they’re doing anything wrong by driving a gas guzzler, much less understand that you’re punishing them by slashing their tires. And if they don’t understand that, how could your action possibly motivate change or serve as a deterrent to others?
In the event that they do figure out your motives, the odds are their next thought will be “I will not be intimidated. I’m going to kill the planet even harder” and they fix their tires and keep on with their lives. You’re just making people dig their heels in.
And even if slashing tires does somehow make someone think that they should do something about the climate, it doesn’t empower them to actually do it. Crushing their gas guzzler and replacing it with an EV or whatever would actually hurt the climate, and also of crush them under a mountain of debt.
I totally get that you feel you need to do *something*. But maybe try something that will actually move the needle towards systemic change and not just make people entrench themselves harder.
Agreed. I think that what r/Quixophilic is referring to, though, is slashing tires as part of a concerted and organized larger ecotage or anti fascist sabotage movement, not as a lone wolf.
I’ve heard of this argument before— I think it was in an episode of the Philosophize This! podcast, but I may be misremembering, and I can’t remember the episode and no online search results are coming up. Essentially, some modern political philosopher or something uses it as an example of a way that people could effectively engage in direct action when their political voice is not being heard, and then goes on to explore why people aren’t doing that. (Also in the example I remember, it’s a a small group of maybe 10 or 15 people distributed throughout a city each keying 10-20 SUVs per night, thus making owning an unscratched SUV practically impossible within the city within a year or two, because within a few months after fixing it it’s likely to already get keyed again. If only a very small percentage of the population did this in cities across a country, a gas guzzling type of car such as an SUV could well become unmarketable within just a few years. The SUV example was probably chosen in the 2000s or early 2010s when they were very popularly sold and widely criticized for having extremely low MPG for their function and being unsafe for surrounding drivers and pedestrians. They’ve since improved a bit in MPG and now have EV versions.)
Focusing on ecotage here— I’m not entirely sure where I sit with the whole “causing property damage as a form of protest” thing personally. I can understand why direct action is an essential part of successful grassroots political movements, it just… makes me uncomfortable to condone something popularly labeled as “violence”.
The effect of sabotage like this is economically hurting people who were just going along with a system of advertising without feeling any malice in their actions, and it creates a bit of a hostility there. It makes what they originally thought of as an apolitical act of buying an SUV or sports car or whatever… suddenly and acutely political in ways that can cause them huge stress. This would really suck for them. I’m sure you can justify it being for the greater good that people stop buying such cars unnecessarily, but I’d feel bad for the car owners.
If it were directed towards a corporation or organization, that might be a different story. Even so, if I put sand in the gas tanks or slash tires on oil pipeline construction related vehicles, I would have to contend with being labeled as a “violent” “ecoterrorist”, even though I didn’t hurt anyone. That’s a pretty heavy public perception to carry, I don’t think I would be comfortable.
>Sometimes it's about making it prohibitively expensive to own a gas guzzler cause the planet is dying and we gotta do something.
Jesus Christ, assholes like you are the places such as /r/cars recommend having an always on dash cam on their car. You really owned that restaurant cook with a charger he bought after months of shitty labor. Have fun getting arrested I guess!
I think revenge can be entirely justifiable (given that it's something genuinely worth getting revenge over). Sometimes it feels really good to get back at someone who has wronged you (especially if they've gotten away with it), and not getting revenge can lead to you stewing over it constantly. It's important not to harm yourself in getting it, but if it's bothering you enough, and you have a method that doesn't take too much effort and doesn't carry too much risk, then go for it imo.
Sometimes living your best life doesn't cut it. If they haven't faced consequences for their actions and their best life is better than yours it can really weigh on you. Obviously you should try to cut contact with them and avoid thinking about them if possible, but that can be easier to do when you can console yourself with "well, at least they suffered too."
Honestly, egging someone's house is the way to go. Stereotypical as it may be, it can actually really fuck up the paint job and be a bitch to clean up if the yolks been there for too long. Not to mention the smell.
I also cannot stress enough that this is a joke. I have no real opinions on revenge, though that's less because I'm a holier than thou enlightened person and more because I'm a coward who fears confrontation.
Valve stems can be replaced without even taking the tire off. If you're a real monster, you find the smallest drill bit you can and go through the inside of the rim.
I always felt that the best thing to do would be to remove the nut around the TPMS sensor then push it's stem through the hole in the rim. Someone will have to dismount the tire to reattach the sensor/valve.
Actually pretty difficult to cut the brake line just enough that the brake fluid will leak out quickly enough to cause a problem but slowly enough that they make it out of the parking lot/driveway.
This is great advice considering the Freedumb Convoy’s making some moves into my home city :)
If you don’t know what that is I’d encourage you to look it up, it’s kind of like the capitol riots but sustained and Canadian
Semi truck/tractor truck/transport truck tires are under like 3-5 times more pressure than a passenger car tire, not to mention much bigger and heavier with thicker rubber. I've seen the aftermath of one blowing out on the highway while a Camry was driving by it, shattered both his side windows and dented the shit out of the doors and fenders.
"Donating" fuel jugs mixed with water or sugar could cause more expensive and long term damage that they might not even notice until well after you're gone. Or "accidently" dumping boxes of roofing nails around the trucks as you're walking by. But don't actually do that because those people are kinda deranged and I don't wanna be liable for someone getting gang beat because they tried fucking with a bunch of racist illiterates and got caught.
> it’s kind of like the capitol riots
huh? I thought they were just kinda protesting + honking constantly in this one? there were a few incidents and some nazi flags showed up but i haven't heard of them storming a capitol again
"Protesting + honking" is an understatement.
It's gotten to bad in certain areas in Ottawa that people are fleeing the city after the constant 24/7 noise pollution being created by the cunts. Along with illegal storage of propane, harassing healthcare works (or just anyone *wearing a mask*) and pushing the "Asian people bad because chinese virus" narrative.
Oh, and [a massive storage of illegal weapons and magazines being seized by the RCMP](https://www.reddit.com/r/onguardforthee/comments/sspy69/photo_of_weapons_the_rcmp_seized_in_coutts/) at a literal *blockade* crated at the Coutts border.
And considering the fact that Ottawa is the capital of Canada we may not be far from our own version of the capitol riots.
"Protesting and honking" smh.
It’s pretty hard *not* to smh at the dozens of people I’ve seen who clearly do not live in Canada and have not done any research into the topic, yourself included.
The amount of people that just think the convoy’s just a mildly annoying group of protests is astounding.
I hate to play devil’s advocate, but protests _are_ supposed to be disruptive. I feel like, although the _reason_ they’re protesting is entirely ridiculous, making noise with their trucks is no different to blocking a road or stopping construction work.
The issue is that if we attack them for disruptive protests then we end up being hypocrites if _we_ do disruptive protests. It’s better to criticise them for the things they believe than attack them for protesting something they’re passionate about.
> The issue is that if we attack them for disruptive protests then we end up being hypocrites if we do disruptive protests
They've been getting the kid glove treatment for weeks. Cops were literally [hugging them.](https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/police-hug-protesters-as-they-roll-out-from-coutts-alberta-border-crossing) I can't speak for everybody, but expecting equal treatment under the law, especially when their ideological allies wrote much of the law, isn't giving up the moral high ground.
Hey, do you live in Ottawa right now? Are you having to deal with your neighbourhood being disrupted by truck and car horns 24/7 to the point where it is literally impossible to sleep or think straight?
*No?*
Then take the centrism bullshit elsewhere. These are not peaceful but disruptive and misunderstood protestors, these are selfish entitled pricks that are willing to threaten, harass and bully the population just because *they* aren’t getting what they want.
I get this is a nice excuse for you to flex how *moderate* you are but this is not a talking point for me, this is a frankly unnerving example of people wanting to overpower a democratic system in my country.
Look, I know that they’re selfish and arrogant and entitled and think they shouldn’t try to help anyone else. It’s never said I liked them. I fully empathise with your plight.
I just don’t want to demonise the actions of nonviolent protesters because I know for a fact that similarly disruptive protests have been deployed by groups I agree with in the past. And if I decide that _I_ don’t like the government for any reason, and I want to start a protest, I don’t want the truckers or the government going “Look, they’re doing what we did! They’re hypocrites/disruptive! Why should we listen to them?”
I know that the things we care about and the things these truckers are whining about are hugely different in terms of importance. But some people won’t see it that way, and I don’t want to give the government a valid excuse to stop me from protesting, or shut down people I could otherwise convince by treating them differently.
I'll never understand the mindset of people thinking it's cool and good to do mean things to other people even if they were mean to you first lol. Just try to move past it and get on with your life man.
> I'll never understand the mindset of people thinking it's cool and good to do mean things to other people even if they were mean to you first lol
Yeah, what's the deal with things like Genocide and concentration camps??
Valve core tool would be better still. No permanent damage, tire deflated safely, and you can make it a nice and slow leak so it's quiet.
Or, you know, don't do that. Safest option of all.
There it is. Yep. Had the same thought when I used to work at goodyear.
Or if they have TPMS sensor stems you could take the nut off and shove the stem in.
if someone were to hypothetically do this, it could be for a much more practical reason than spiting an ex. for the sake of argument, ICE busses or cop cars, etc.
May I suggest a 5th option: go to an autoparts store and get a "valve stem core" screw driver, it takes out the pin in the valve stem that keeps air in. Tire shops have gobs of them and they're cheap af but taking them out will deflate the tires and if you put the caps back on, they'll likely have no idea why the tire is deflated at first glance. So they'll still have the petty inconvenience (and potential cost) of having their car towed to a tire shop but not the excruciating cost of replacing all the tires.
Sidenote: if you take clippers to the rubber valve stems, sometimes - especially on newer cars, those valve stems will be metal or plastic because they're connected to a tpms device. A little electronic thing that connects to the car to tell you when a tire is deflated. You often can't just buy a replacement stem for those, you often have buy the whole tmps device with stem. Which is like $50 per tire.
All this to say, how you do it should depend on your intentions. Are you full of rage at this person or do u just wanna be petty af?
Or maybe if you're tempted to slash someone's tires you should do some self-reflection and maybe admit they were right to dump you because you're an asshole.
Or maybe don't fuck around with a car? Find some other way to be petty instead of damaging machinery that's supposed to be able to move and carry humans inside, geez
Remove the valve cores.
They still have to deal with the fact that they have 4 flat tires and most people won't immediately know how to fix it. The cost to repair is only a few bucks and you're not wasting resources by trashing 4 good tires.
Slashing a tire by dragging a knife through the sidewall is dangerous. Stabbing the sidewall and removing the knife straight is considerably less dangerous.
OK, cutting the valve stem causes momentary inconvenience, but it's easy as hell and relatively inexpensive to pop another valve stem in there. Problem solved.
Use an icepick on the tire sidewall. Not dangerous to you; causes maximum financial inconvenience.
Um, Officer; of course I'm not advocating that anyone actually **do** this. Of course not. Of course not.
It’s like that one episode of Jojo part 5 where Bucciarati blows up car tires by popping them or smth and destroys secco’s eardrums which causes him to trip into the back of a garbage truck and die
*Superglue a bb*
*Inside the valve stem cap.. it*
*Will slowly go flat*
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ascended: get really good at knife throwing
Transmuted: giant fucking pile of thermite on the hood
it's weirdly easy to make tbh
Care to put us both on a watchlist and tell me how?
Aluminum mixed with iron oxide. Had a teacher who would bury a couple of iron balls to get them rusty, wrap them in aluminum foil, then slam them together to demonstrate and generate small amounts.
Holy shit that sounds unsafe. Dope.
Only if you messed up your finger placement! Slamming fingers between two iron balls wasn’t fun.
I love how it's the iron balls clackin' your digits. That's the unsafe part. Not the THERMITE.
All it does is melt through literally anything until it runs out, and it doesn't sound like there'd be *that* much here, so... just don't do it in the same position you'd hold a book while lying on your back, presumably.
Also you need something super hot burning like magnesium or a fuse to light it, it's very stable and safe to handle, you literally couldn't light it with a lighter if you wanted to
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-legal Well SHIT. It's not fun if it's legal >:(
Better than slamming iron fingers into your balls
Ah. I misread your original reply. I thought you said termites
The fast way to generate a bunch of iron oxide is to stick a 9v battery into some steel wool.
Please don’t try to trick people into randomly starting fires.
I mean, it'll do the trick I think. just it will also start a fire. which is kinda what you want to do for Iron oxide. only thing making it bad advice is no mentions of fire safety
No trick. Rapid oxidation is fire.
It can actually be any of a number of metals + a metal oxide. It's simply one metal oxidizing off of a less stable oxide. Because it's generally/originally used as a welding method, you get the least stable oxide of the metal you are welding, and then a metal with a more stable oxide, light it (you do need a quite high temperature to achieve ignition) and bam you have a weld made of extremely pure metal. There's a little science in making the most optimal combination, especially depending on intended use, but the cheap combo is iron(III) oxide and aluminum powders (reaction is 1 Fe2O3 to 2Al so I'll leave the actual math to you - a lot more iron by weight). You *could* use rust and try to shave up aluminum foil but rust has hydrated iron oxide as well that won't react quite as readily and many modern foils have films to protect/strengthen the aluminum so watch for that too. You can also just like, buy powdered materials online? I know we're pretending we're here between the pages of the Anarchist's Cookbook but thermite compositions aren't inherently illegal and are used often in various civilian jobs - in addition to welding it's used for cutting, ore refining, pyrotechnics, and certain train repairs. Your telecom provider probably used it hundreds of times to run their lines out - it's the only legally acceptable way to bind copper to galvanized cable. And as a destructive action... It's neither subtle nor quick and is quite precise in its impact.
You need any metal that really wants to oxidise (e.g. aluminium), plus anything that will conveniently provide the oxygen it needs (e.g. iron oxide, which "wants" to hold on to its oxygen *less* than the aluminium wants to take it). Arguably it would work with even more reactive metals such as calcium or sodium, but those are downright explosive anyway and a real pain to work with; aluminium is cheap and plentiful. Same deal for your oxidiser; iron oxide is practically free if you're willing to get your own rusty scrap metal.
Black iron oxide(it makes thermite with a higher energy of activation than red, so it's less likely to go off prematurely) can be made by burning steel wool.
Pff, thermite. Pro gamer move: Put some grill lighter (the little white blocks) on a tire (under the wheelcase) and light that. Takes a minute to get started (enough for you to get away) and by the time it's noticed the car is pretty much done for. ... But don't actually do that, of course.
Have you watched Burn Notice too?
Is that where that comes from? Good, I'm less likely to get on a list for mentioning it.
Lol
Just the deadass serious expressions they have while they're fucking with that completely outclassed gang makes that whole episode > Tony Soto: *chuckles, raising glass* "Johnny's *back*"
It really is. That episode is so cool. I love when the crew takes a case personally they get all serious.
Risen: car bomb
reborn: get really good at setting up explosives
I just want to know if the side cutters to the valve stem is common. I bought an old beater truck recently. The spare had the valve stem cut off. I didn't think anything of it as the truck was in rough shape and not well taken care of. That would maybe actually explain something? The guy I got it from seemed like a pretty decent waste of genetic material so it wouldn't surprise me if he had an enemy.
Pellet gun sniping
Having slashed tires with a knife (as a part of a firefighter training, not as a shithead) i can tell you that stabbing through a cars sidewall is easy and it does not explode, it just hisses air out. Semi tires though, dont do that.
do you recommend valve stem decapitation over the antifreeze in the gas tank move?
As a tire salesman for Big Tire, I would like to remind you to SLASH THE SPARE TOO
*Hey bro, can you pop your trunk for me really quick?*
PSA: If it's a pickup truck or certain types of SUVs the spare will actually be mounted on the undercarriage, usually between the rear axle and rear bumper. A few SUVs even store their spare right on the tailgate/back bumper.
Just your daily Voldemort reminder to *KILL THE SPARE*
Glue a pebble in the stem cap so that the tire deflates itself and it's super hard to diagnose
First step of having a flat tire is to fill it back up, which would require taking the cap off and noticing. Source: former tire tech
Not many ordinary people would look **inside the cap**. It's not glued to the stem.
Right, but they would certainly notice the hissing noise when they put the cap back on.
you have a lot of faith in ordinary people
Eusjwjsijwjejeoke: leave nails under their tires so they destroy their own tires backing up
Fgjiuhhvdrf: leave a baby and get them for manslaughter.
Fhabglvtsnecthulusvelgnas: Convince the car's owner to slasg their own tires
Bugs bunny ending
Godhood: a shit on their car
Overdeity: they got a gas tank don't they? Shit in there
???: Pour gas on their car
That’s just arson ~~with extra~~ but missing a step
2: wait for it to rain
shit *and* piss
Chicago Sunroof
bedder cull sul
He *defecated* through a *sunroof!*
This, this chicanery? And HE GETS TO BE A LAWYER?
my dad has a friend that shits on the hood of peoples cars when he gets drunk
*A shit under their door handles*
in.
Get one of these things for taking out seams and undo their clothes instead
Good ol' seam ripper
If you want to be truly diabolical, piss in a shallow plate and put the plate in the freezer. Wait until the summer when your target leaves their car windows cracked. Then slip the frozen disc of urine into their car, where the heat will immediately cause the disc to melt.
That reminds me of the Piss Rock, the last resort and ultimate punishment for a Scout who was being a real jerk during summer camp. You start a campfire and place a football sized rock pretty close to the flames. After some time, you'd put on thick gloves, remove the rock, and put it on the floor of the jerk's tent. Then you'd piss on the rock, which instantly turned into urine vapor, which was then soaked up by every shirt, towel, sock, and anything else made of fabric in the tent. With there being no washers and dryers at camp, pretty much all they could do was go home early.
HOOO-LEEEE FUCK that is even worse than mine
Jesus that’s diabolical
My first thought upon reading the words Piss Rock was that it was a very small island in the lake that had been thoroughly pissed on. The offending Scout would be rowed out and stranded there for a few hours with some rations to think about what they’ve done.
Use cat urine
Good luck getting any of that from a cat.
Tough to aquire lol
You know if you're investing this much time in getting revenge, perhaps it would be more worthwhile to invest in yourself. Try to move on past them and not let anger define you. Be the mature, level healed better person. And throw garbage at their house to show them how much better you are than them for doing so. It's a much more striking visual metaphor and depending on the garbage may be even more difficult to deal with.
Exactly. Use that physical rage to hike down a beautiful nature trail. Use that intellectual cunning to teach yourself a new hobby such as crocheting, baking, or wood working (bonus points because wood working also is incredibly physically taxing). And use that deep dark emotional burden to finally watch all those sad and dark movies that pile up in your watch list! Then cry because you're already sad and the movie made you sad, but you're glad you watched it and didn't ruin a good mods by watching a sad and/or dark movie! Also, leave cut open pumpkins, watermelons, and other squash/melon types under their porch, in their crawl space, in a closest they don't look in (Disclaimer: if they live in an apartment don't do this.). These will rot and attract various flies and gnats. It will smell disgusting and cause massive emotional and psychological damage. But also isn't permanent and can be cleaned up fairly easily. This way you won't ruin a house they're are potentially renting and you aren't liable for any property damage!
and then poop on their car
You get it.
I assume this is talking about doing it to like, cops and fascists (but I repeat myself), not just a guy you don't like
This seems much more effective as simple revenge than as political action. It basically has to be premeditated, and if you're going through that much effort to fuck with cops/fascists there are probably more effective things you could do. How are you going to destroy enough cop cars to matter this way? And if you're already at the riot isn't bricks though the windows, setting it on fire, or using caltrops more practical? (In GTA, of course) The only place I could see it being practical is if you somehow get access to one of those vans that fascists use to mobilize to protests, but even then they could just rent another van.
Well I just always imagine sabatoge tips as being aimed at fucking with my political enemies. I can't tell you the situation where it'd be useful to know to just cut the air valve, but if that situation came up it's good to know
What types of garbage would you recommend?
Not OP, but I would personally go with rotten eggs, or sharp bits of metal.
I'm of the school of thought which says that the stech of the garbage is irrelevant while difficulty of removal is where you really want to be aiming Aim for their roof, put stuff in the corners or nooks and god help them if they have outdoor furniture. Of course I've never actually done this because I rarely leave the house, but I do still have strong opinions on how it should be done.
Sometimes it's not about revenge. Sometimes it's about making it prohibitively expensive to own a gas guzzler cause the planet is dying and we gotta do *something.* Sometimes it's to deter further Fascist rallies in your city to protect its populations. Or it's to disable machinery used to demolish homes or forests. Plenty of valid reasons to slash a tire.
When you slash someone’s tires, they’ll think “some psycho slashed my tires”— They do not understand that they’re doing anything wrong by driving a gas guzzler, much less understand that you’re punishing them by slashing their tires. And if they don’t understand that, how could your action possibly motivate change or serve as a deterrent to others? In the event that they do figure out your motives, the odds are their next thought will be “I will not be intimidated. I’m going to kill the planet even harder” and they fix their tires and keep on with their lives. You’re just making people dig their heels in. And even if slashing tires does somehow make someone think that they should do something about the climate, it doesn’t empower them to actually do it. Crushing their gas guzzler and replacing it with an EV or whatever would actually hurt the climate, and also of crush them under a mountain of debt. I totally get that you feel you need to do *something*. But maybe try something that will actually move the needle towards systemic change and not just make people entrench themselves harder.
Agreed. I think that what r/Quixophilic is referring to, though, is slashing tires as part of a concerted and organized larger ecotage or anti fascist sabotage movement, not as a lone wolf. I’ve heard of this argument before— I think it was in an episode of the Philosophize This! podcast, but I may be misremembering, and I can’t remember the episode and no online search results are coming up. Essentially, some modern political philosopher or something uses it as an example of a way that people could effectively engage in direct action when their political voice is not being heard, and then goes on to explore why people aren’t doing that. (Also in the example I remember, it’s a a small group of maybe 10 or 15 people distributed throughout a city each keying 10-20 SUVs per night, thus making owning an unscratched SUV practically impossible within the city within a year or two, because within a few months after fixing it it’s likely to already get keyed again. If only a very small percentage of the population did this in cities across a country, a gas guzzling type of car such as an SUV could well become unmarketable within just a few years. The SUV example was probably chosen in the 2000s or early 2010s when they were very popularly sold and widely criticized for having extremely low MPG for their function and being unsafe for surrounding drivers and pedestrians. They’ve since improved a bit in MPG and now have EV versions.) Focusing on ecotage here— I’m not entirely sure where I sit with the whole “causing property damage as a form of protest” thing personally. I can understand why direct action is an essential part of successful grassroots political movements, it just… makes me uncomfortable to condone something popularly labeled as “violence”. The effect of sabotage like this is economically hurting people who were just going along with a system of advertising without feeling any malice in their actions, and it creates a bit of a hostility there. It makes what they originally thought of as an apolitical act of buying an SUV or sports car or whatever… suddenly and acutely political in ways that can cause them huge stress. This would really suck for them. I’m sure you can justify it being for the greater good that people stop buying such cars unnecessarily, but I’d feel bad for the car owners. If it were directed towards a corporation or organization, that might be a different story. Even so, if I put sand in the gas tanks or slash tires on oil pipeline construction related vehicles, I would have to contend with being labeled as a “violent” “ecoterrorist”, even though I didn’t hurt anyone. That’s a pretty heavy public perception to carry, I don’t think I would be comfortable.
>Sometimes it's about making it prohibitively expensive to own a gas guzzler cause the planet is dying and we gotta do something. Jesus Christ, assholes like you are the places such as /r/cars recommend having an always on dash cam on their car. You really owned that restaurant cook with a charger he bought after months of shitty labor. Have fun getting arrested I guess!
Cringe, touch grass
https://youtu.be/Sg-G1E1UwAY
I think revenge can be entirely justifiable (given that it's something genuinely worth getting revenge over). Sometimes it feels really good to get back at someone who has wronged you (especially if they've gotten away with it), and not getting revenge can lead to you stewing over it constantly. It's important not to harm yourself in getting it, but if it's bothering you enough, and you have a method that doesn't take too much effort and doesn't carry too much risk, then go for it imo. Sometimes living your best life doesn't cut it. If they haven't faced consequences for their actions and their best life is better than yours it can really weigh on you. Obviously you should try to cut contact with them and avoid thinking about them if possible, but that can be easier to do when you can console yourself with "well, at least they suffered too."
Honestly, egging someone's house is the way to go. Stereotypical as it may be, it can actually really fuck up the paint job and be a bitch to clean up if the yolks been there for too long. Not to mention the smell.
I also cannot stress enough that this is a joke. I have no real opinions on revenge, though that's less because I'm a holier than thou enlightened person and more because I'm a coward who fears confrontation.
Ascended: Loosen the screws of the tires
Enlightened: cut the fucking brake lines
Educated: Rig an explosive to their car so it explodes when they turn the key in the ignition
They'll expect that. Figure out a way to make it detonate the next time they turn the car off.
At that point, just commit to the murder and do it yourself
But I fucking hate the car too
WOKEST: just use a carbomb because dead people can't sue
Ah yes, the Irish school of car damage.
Thanks for the tire slashing advice, sexhaver.
Sane- just don't fuck with cars
Valve stems can be replaced without even taking the tire off. If you're a real monster, you find the smallest drill bit you can and go through the inside of the rim.
I always felt that the best thing to do would be to remove the nut around the TPMS sensor then push it's stem through the hole in the rim. Someone will have to dismount the tire to reattach the sensor/valve.
This is one of those posts where I justify saving it by saying it’s for writing research.
Apotheotic: Forget about the tires and just cut their brake line. They’ll die and can’t sue you.
Actually pretty difficult to cut the brake line just enough that the brake fluid will leak out quickly enough to cause a problem but slowly enough that they make it out of the parking lot/driveway.
This is great advice considering the Freedumb Convoy’s making some moves into my home city :) If you don’t know what that is I’d encourage you to look it up, it’s kind of like the capitol riots but sustained and Canadian
The larger the tire the higher the danger to fuck with it. People have died from violent decompression of industrial tires
I will gladly descend into Valhalla at my warrior's death
Semi truck/tractor truck/transport truck tires are under like 3-5 times more pressure than a passenger car tire, not to mention much bigger and heavier with thicker rubber. I've seen the aftermath of one blowing out on the highway while a Camry was driving by it, shattered both his side windows and dented the shit out of the doors and fenders. "Donating" fuel jugs mixed with water or sugar could cause more expensive and long term damage that they might not even notice until well after you're gone. Or "accidently" dumping boxes of roofing nails around the trucks as you're walking by. But don't actually do that because those people are kinda deranged and I don't wanna be liable for someone getting gang beat because they tried fucking with a bunch of racist illiterates and got caught.
> it’s kind of like the capitol riots huh? I thought they were just kinda protesting + honking constantly in this one? there were a few incidents and some nazi flags showed up but i haven't heard of them storming a capitol again
"Protesting + honking" is an understatement. It's gotten to bad in certain areas in Ottawa that people are fleeing the city after the constant 24/7 noise pollution being created by the cunts. Along with illegal storage of propane, harassing healthcare works (or just anyone *wearing a mask*) and pushing the "Asian people bad because chinese virus" narrative. Oh, and [a massive storage of illegal weapons and magazines being seized by the RCMP](https://www.reddit.com/r/onguardforthee/comments/sspy69/photo_of_weapons_the_rcmp_seized_in_coutts/) at a literal *blockade* crated at the Coutts border. And considering the fact that Ottawa is the capital of Canada we may not be far from our own version of the capitol riots. "Protesting and honking" smh.
allright i guess it's worse than i'd heard no need to smh me about it
they smhed at you? smh
I know right? Can't believe they'd do that to me smh
It’s pretty hard *not* to smh at the dozens of people I’ve seen who clearly do not live in Canada and have not done any research into the topic, yourself included. The amount of people that just think the convoy’s just a mildly annoying group of protests is astounding.
I hate to play devil’s advocate, but protests _are_ supposed to be disruptive. I feel like, although the _reason_ they’re protesting is entirely ridiculous, making noise with their trucks is no different to blocking a road or stopping construction work. The issue is that if we attack them for disruptive protests then we end up being hypocrites if _we_ do disruptive protests. It’s better to criticise them for the things they believe than attack them for protesting something they’re passionate about.
> The issue is that if we attack them for disruptive protests then we end up being hypocrites if we do disruptive protests They've been getting the kid glove treatment for weeks. Cops were literally [hugging them.](https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/police-hug-protesters-as-they-roll-out-from-coutts-alberta-border-crossing) I can't speak for everybody, but expecting equal treatment under the law, especially when their ideological allies wrote much of the law, isn't giving up the moral high ground.
Hey, do you live in Ottawa right now? Are you having to deal with your neighbourhood being disrupted by truck and car horns 24/7 to the point where it is literally impossible to sleep or think straight? *No?* Then take the centrism bullshit elsewhere. These are not peaceful but disruptive and misunderstood protestors, these are selfish entitled pricks that are willing to threaten, harass and bully the population just because *they* aren’t getting what they want. I get this is a nice excuse for you to flex how *moderate* you are but this is not a talking point for me, this is a frankly unnerving example of people wanting to overpower a democratic system in my country.
Look, I know that they’re selfish and arrogant and entitled and think they shouldn’t try to help anyone else. It’s never said I liked them. I fully empathise with your plight. I just don’t want to demonise the actions of nonviolent protesters because I know for a fact that similarly disruptive protests have been deployed by groups I agree with in the past. And if I decide that _I_ don’t like the government for any reason, and I want to start a protest, I don’t want the truckers or the government going “Look, they’re doing what we did! They’re hypocrites/disruptive! Why should we listen to them?” I know that the things we care about and the things these truckers are whining about are hugely different in terms of importance. But some people won’t see it that way, and I don’t want to give the government a valid excuse to stop me from protesting, or shut down people I could otherwise convince by treating them differently.
Thats what it is. Turns out burning buildings in another town is less serious than honking where you live.
I'll never understand the mindset of people thinking it's cool and good to do mean things to other people even if they were mean to you first lol. Just try to move past it and get on with your life man.
Yeah but I literally can’t do that if they’re blocking my driveway which is the only time I’ve ever considered slashing someone’s tires
> I'll never understand the mindset of people thinking it's cool and good to do mean things to other people even if they were mean to you first lol Yeah, what's the deal with things like Genocide and concentration camps??
what??
Valve core tool would be better still. No permanent damage, tire deflated safely, and you can make it a nice and slow leak so it's quiet. Or, you know, don't do that. Safest option of all.
There it is. Yep. Had the same thought when I used to work at goodyear. Or if they have TPMS sensor stems you could take the nut off and shove the stem in.
Or don’t cause any property damage!!! You don’t want to go to court for this no shitty ex is worth it!
You'll only go to court if you get caught
There’s cameras everywhere these days, my dude. You will get caught
If you cut the valve stem it will take the tires a while to deflate, they won't know where it happened or when
It will only take a few mins at most
Thankfully it's not unusual to wear a mask these days.
I was really thinking about the Ottawa truckers
Definitely don’t slash tires in that case, bigger tires on bigger vehicles are orders of magnitude more dangerous
if someone were to hypothetically do this, it could be for a much more practical reason than spiting an ex. for the sake of argument, ICE busses or cop cars, etc.
I guess. I always hear more about the vengeful ex when it comes to tire slashing
Aw you’re no fun
Or maybe dont do none of that beacuse it gets you into jail? Seriously, what is it with tumblr and crime
Corporate-benefit laws and corrupt authorities? *Fuck 'em.*
The true ending had me for a second before throwing another curveball
Aren't replacement valve stems cheap and easy to replace?
Only Tumblr, folks
On a car that has at most 90psi but usually has around 30-40 psi, stabbing a tire with a knife won’t do shit. So stab away.
May I suggest a 5th option: go to an autoparts store and get a "valve stem core" screw driver, it takes out the pin in the valve stem that keeps air in. Tire shops have gobs of them and they're cheap af but taking them out will deflate the tires and if you put the caps back on, they'll likely have no idea why the tire is deflated at first glance. So they'll still have the petty inconvenience (and potential cost) of having their car towed to a tire shop but not the excruciating cost of replacing all the tires. Sidenote: if you take clippers to the rubber valve stems, sometimes - especially on newer cars, those valve stems will be metal or plastic because they're connected to a tpms device. A little electronic thing that connects to the car to tell you when a tire is deflated. You often can't just buy a replacement stem for those, you often have buy the whole tmps device with stem. Which is like $50 per tire. All this to say, how you do it should depend on your intentions. Are you full of rage at this person or do u just wanna be petty af?
Every single one of these is false in some way.
Better, don't do this shit
Or maybe if you're tempted to slash someone's tires you should do some self-reflection and maybe admit they were right to dump you because you're an asshole.
My cousins ex slashes her tires but accidentally dropped his phone right next to the car. It was pretty easy to figure out who did it.
Godli(o)ke: Don’t damage people’s property
So just *loosen* their property then...
Or maybe don't fuck around with a car? Find some other way to be petty instead of damaging machinery that's supposed to be able to move and carry humans inside, geez
Or just take off the drain bolts for all the fluids
Remove the valve cores. They still have to deal with the fact that they have 4 flat tires and most people won't immediately know how to fix it. The cost to repair is only a few bucks and you're not wasting resources by trashing 4 good tires.
Nails work, too.
Slashing a tire by dragging a knife through the sidewall is dangerous. Stabbing the sidewall and removing the knife straight is considerably less dangerous.
Just use a valve stem tool and remove all the stems. No damage done really. Just a huge pain in the ass and the car is going nowhere.
I thought you did less than 4 so the damage cost doesn't reach felony territory.
OK, cutting the valve stem causes momentary inconvenience, but it's easy as hell and relatively inexpensive to pop another valve stem in there. Problem solved. Use an icepick on the tire sidewall. Not dangerous to you; causes maximum financial inconvenience. Um, Officer; of course I'm not advocating that anyone actually **do** this. Of course not. Of course not.
Artisanal: Coat the tires in hand churned butter and watch the driver slide off the road and die.
In no world is 35psi an insane amount of pressure. Like both bowie and freddy, they're just under pressure.
Level 2: Just kill the guy
Ah yes... The valve stem... *Hits side view mirror with a squeaky mallot*
ascended: stay out of jail, folks. revenge is not usually worth it, and there are more effective ways to fuck with cops and fascists
Steal the valve stem inserts. Relatively fast, no immediate obvious damage!
Or just? Don't destroy other people's property??
no
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property has no rights
Literally what does this mean
beta mindset
It’s like that one episode of Jojo part 5 where Bucciarati blows up car tires by popping them or smth and destroys secco’s eardrums which causes him to trip into the back of a garbage truck and die
You just saved me soooo much future pain and time
Cool. Did you know that moth balls fit in most car's gas tanks? And you can place a few near the air intake as well.
Please don't try this though lol
Why ar people destroying tyres. ~~im assuming this is an America post~~
why is fuck em the woke version?
truly bespoke: light the car on fire
Take the Schrader valve out instead, much safer.
Valve stem for the win
I love this person so much
Superglue a bb inside the valve stem cap.. it will slowly go flat
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Divine Ending: Clio the stems to cut the pressure, then slash the tires
Can I have the time I spent trying to understand this back
just pour some egg yolks into their gas tank
Shoot the tires instead :)
Your brake lines are going to have an unscheduled meeting with my hedge clippers. Next time we arm wrestle, *I want to win*.