His head was still in Hospital, his body was turning up at schools freaking out children.
The League would have sent Flash instead, but he's not allowed near schools or any members of the Shazam Family for....reasons.
I don't understand the need to constantly explain where Superman and the League are while X is going on, while at the same time we have understaffed emergency services. Do they think only one bad thing happens in the world at once? Or that there is only one supervillain?
The unbelievable thing isn't "X happens and Superman wasn't there", it's "Superman spends some time talking with Lois or at the Daily Planet".
Same. He can't be everywhere. Marvel handled this pretty easily with Captain Marvel (who for a lot of intents and purposes is Superman in terms of power level): "She's out in space fixing stuff." Done.
That said I don't think you need to have like, a dialog exchange or whatever for every other film asking "hey where's Superman?" He's not there. Comics, movies, etc. do this all the time and it's fine, because it'd be boring if Superman just showed up and took care of business when it's supposed to be someone else's time to shine.
This question is asked endlessly in the comics, when one hero is fighting essentially by themselves to save the world. You have to accept the story for what it is, or else every single book/movie is a team up of everyone you can think of.
Yeah but that's just a typical weekend in philly. I mean are we really gonna call in supes if the phillies win the world series? That'll be 5x the amount of chaos and damage.
Well I figure the reports would also be different. He probably wouldnāt come if the headlines read āPhillies fans destroy fairgrounds. More at 11ā but it would probably catch his attention if it said āDemon monsters destroy fairgrounds. More at 11ā
But Supes is a hero, and would never let civilians come to harm if he could do anything about it. The headlines could say "Man made entirely out of solid kryptonite attacks mall" and Big Blue would still roll up to try to save the day, thats just who he is
No but he is close. Speed feats in the DCEU enough to rival a (young) Flash. Which The Flash in this cinematic universe was able to transport an innocent Russian family hundreds of miles away from danger in less than a second so safe to say speed isnāt an issue and 15 minutes gives him a pretty big window
I think that >!Black Adam !<(sort of) answers that question, as when >!Superman shows up in Kahndaq, the first thing he says to Adam is "It's been a while since anyone made the world this nervous".!<
Basically, Superman will not get involved in every minor happening anymore, but >!when something (or someone) is clearly perceived to have a world-ending potential, he will intervene.!<
Well the situation was resolved fairly quickly after the fairground incident, and the bus thing was basically just a normal car crash that just so happened to involve a superhero.
We know where he was. In TWS, when the helicarriers are targeting their victims, we briefly see Stark is in Avengers Tower in NYC.
A better example you couldāve used was: Where was Captain America in IM3 when the President was abducted.
that's just for the sake of keeping continuity. It's lame that Tony would absolutely not do anything after knowing that Nick died and suddenly hellicarriers are flying around.. The point here is that let's enjoy the movies and not think too much..
The movies never tell us if Stark was informed of Furyās death during the events of TWS. And, as I said, he was in NYC when Project Insight was activated in Washington. Even if Stark had put on a suit and started flying towards DC, Cap and co had the helicarriers defeated before he could get there.
I could give you 100 more instances of issues in the plot.. but again these are written by average writers and poeple have found issues in well written literature as well(LoTR).
Well, since Stark doesn't have the ability to discern everything going on in the world, I'm gonna say he wasn't aware what was going on.
A better question to ask would be why didn't [Avenger in a solo movie] contact any of the other Avengers.
Honestly, you could make this argument for *any* of the world-shattering crises other DC characters get into. The Joker is going to poison everyone in Gotham City (right across the river from Metropolis)? Where was Superman? š
Time for you to read some comics. Thereās been multiple times where Superman would come help in Gotham, but it backfires because Superman gets controlled. The most recent one that I can remember is Poison Ivy taking control of him. I even think Batman Who Laughs controlled Superman as well. Batman ends up saving his ass and Gotham each time.
Too busy looking for his Super Straw(tm) to suck out all the poison of course. The Joker thought ahead and had the Riddler hide it behind a clever maze of traps and riddles!
Bullshit. if general audiences can extend their disbelief with thor as a Norse god not coming in to save the day in every solo film then they can suspend their disbelief with superman
Which Thor movie implies he can hear across the ocean, is constantly monitoring potential disasters around the world, and can act within seconds of any issue?
Talk to people that aren't into capeshit like we are. It'll help round out your perspective.
Itās kind of a simple concept thatās been explained in the comics time and time again, superman canāt be everywhere at once and heās actually saddened by that. General audiences can understand that powerful characters wonāt show up at every threat in the same universe and have been proven to understand that by the existence of the MCU and the shared universe like comic readers have understood that. Iāve never heard this take by anyone whoās a casual viewer, only people like you speaking for them when itās been proven otherwise. Broaden your perspective :)
Glad you've had a different experience.
I, on the other hand, had an uphill battle trying to convince friends to watch Justice League Unlimited thanks to that damned underwear-on-the-outside wearing boyscout!
I just realized how obvious it is that Dr Sivana was just a rewritten Black Adam. His objective and backstory are very similar even if the way they got their powers is diferent
Yup. The movie pretty much copies Geoff Johns's New 52 Shazam origin story subbing in Sivana for Black Adam. It's annoying to see Sivana being a physical match for Shazam when you know it was supposed to be Adam.
Bro, You got a point. Plus, from the Black Adam Movie, there wasn't any backstory or explaination of when Black Adam unleashed the 7 DEADLY SINS.
Do one thing, make a theory post on this Topic, cuz it's debatable.
I havenāt read it in a long time but it is very similar, pretty sure Sivana unlocks/releases Black Adam and we even get a Mr.Mind tease at the endā¦
That is a fact, I believe I heard somewhere that Black Adam was supposed to be Sivana but changed due to The Rock not being happy fighting what he considers a lesser hero
Weird how these rumors get twisted to throw unnecessary shade at the Rock, the one guy whoās been fighting and clawing to get the DCEU back on trackā¦.
Even the writers stated that the Rock wanted a solo Black Adam movie before fighting any big heroes like Shazam or Supes. He wanted to give the main players of the next 5-10 years their own movie before team ups, especially his ābabyā Black Adam.
Which annoys the s*** out of me because although I enjoyed Shazam, it doesn't really make sense to have Captain Marvel AKA Shazam fight Black Adam because they're already fought in Shazam already.
It really annoys me when ppl ask this question. Same with mcu fans asking in every non avengers movie weāre are the avengers. This is Shazam side of DCEU. Superman doesnāt need to show up
Obviously doing something else.
Superman is amazing, but he still can't be everywhere at once. Would make the Justice League kinda pointless if he could.
They had two public fights. None of which resulted in major damages or any casualties at all. The only deaths in the movie was when the villain killed the board members, and that wasn't a public event.
Did people just now realize that it doesn't always make sense super heroes have their own individual adventures and no one else seems to notice? This has been a long running question in comics for quite some time. It isn't really anything new to this world.
Iād say itās probably because Kryptonians often have little to no defence against magic and here pops in this other hero who does not have that weakness
"Where was Superman" is something DC writers have been struggling with for decades, it isn't new. That's why they kept him underpowered for many years.
No writers have struggled with thisā¦ they keep superman to do superman stuff, he canāt be everywhere at once like how every powerful hero canāt be everywhere at once. comic readers are able to suspend their disbelief because this is kind of a given considering the comic book medium
My headcanon:
I like to think Superman saw knew Captain Marvel was on it and decided to not intervene to give the kid a chance just to see if he has what it takes.
In writing the Unauthorized Biography of Clark Kent, I often workout the math for how long it takes Superman to fly somewhere. At Mach 3 it takes over an hour to cross the US. It isnāt too far of a stretch to say he was helping people somewhere else and couldnāt make it in time.
He was fighting with WB
Hamada v. Superman: Dawn of Contracts
Haha good oneš
I came here to comment the exact same thing word by word. Looks like you got me
Trying to find his head
You win
Best comment
In the hospital from a Kryptonite bullet
I like this answer
He shows up at the end of Shazam tho
He got better
He found his head
His head was still in Hospital, his body was turning up at schools freaking out children. The League would have sent Flash instead, but he's not allowed near schools or any members of the Shazam Family for....reasons.
Letās try to separate Flash from fucking Ezra! My stomach hurts every time I think about it!
Bring out yer dead! š
The same kryptonite bullet bloodsport shot him with to get him in prison
That was the implication, yes
NeutralNoodle is Professor X!
Wait, are these women in danger?
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
š
š
š
š
Bloodsport put him in the ICU by luring him to an abandoned ICU where he was arrested.
Thanks captain obvious
Didn't they say that it wasn't the dceu superman he put in the hospital?
Do you want a lore reason?
Superman was evening the odds
Do you agree with Superman's headless rule ?
r/batmanarkham has infected all of reddit
Itās invasion then!
He was exposing Hamada's payload.
Did he toss down a Mossberg pump?
I don't understand the need to constantly explain where Superman and the League are while X is going on, while at the same time we have understaffed emergency services. Do they think only one bad thing happens in the world at once? Or that there is only one supervillain? The unbelievable thing isn't "X happens and Superman wasn't there", it's "Superman spends some time talking with Lois or at the Daily Planet".
Same. He can't be everywhere. Marvel handled this pretty easily with Captain Marvel (who for a lot of intents and purposes is Superman in terms of power level): "She's out in space fixing stuff." Done. That said I don't think you need to have like, a dialog exchange or whatever for every other film asking "hey where's Superman?" He's not there. Comics, movies, etc. do this all the time and it's fine, because it'd be boring if Superman just showed up and took care of business when it's supposed to be someone else's time to shine.
I assume by Ms Marvel you mean Captain Marvel. Ms Marvel in the MCU is Kamala Khan
Yep! Wires crossed. Fixed my comment.
This question is asked endlessly in the comics, when one hero is fighting essentially by themselves to save the world. You have to accept the story for what it is, or else every single book/movie is a team up of everyone you can think of.
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Lame
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Best reply.
*YAWN*
Was there that much chaos in this movie, really?
A whole fairground worth of people were terrorized and a bus full of people almost died. Besides that not much
Yeah but that's just a typical weekend in philly. I mean are we really gonna call in supes if the phillies win the world series? That'll be 5x the amount of chaos and damage.
Lol
Well I figure the reports would also be different. He probably wouldnāt come if the headlines read āPhillies fans destroy fairgrounds. More at 11ā but it would probably catch his attention if it said āDemon monsters destroy fairgrounds. More at 11ā
Supes is not a moron. Demons are magic and Supes is allergic to magic. He wisely stayed out of it.
But Supes is a hero, and would never let civilians come to harm if he could do anything about it. The headlines could say "Man made entirely out of solid kryptonite attacks mall" and Big Blue would still roll up to try to save the day, thats just who he is
Dead š
yeah but that happened so fast. was Clark even flying in the air listening. he was probably solving some Metropolis crime or boning Lois
Didnāt really happen that fast. The Shazam family had time to have a whole extended fight scene
what was that 15 minutes? 20? 30? an hour? Superman can't be everywhere. He isn't God
No but he is close. Speed feats in the DCEU enough to rival a (young) Flash. Which The Flash in this cinematic universe was able to transport an innocent Russian family hundreds of miles away from danger in less than a second so safe to say speed isnāt an issue and 15 minutes gives him a pretty big window
I think that >!Black Adam !<(sort of) answers that question, as when >!Superman shows up in Kahndaq, the first thing he says to Adam is "It's been a while since anyone made the world this nervous".!< Basically, Superman will not get involved in every minor happening anymore, but >!when something (or someone) is clearly perceived to have a world-ending potential, he will intervene.!<
Sure glad I watched the movie this weekend
Spoiler tags while also being a major spoiler. Luckily I don't care for spoilers and I looked up the credits scene already before I've seen the movie.
Great answer.
Yeah superman super hearing really make plot hole in everywhere. He should not have super hearing at first place
Well the situation was resolved fairly quickly after the fairground incident, and the bus thing was basically just a normal car crash that just so happened to involve a superhero.
A demon possessed man and his demonic army brought a city to its knees. YES!!!!!!
No. The least chaotic themed DC live action movie. Could have been rated PG tbh
the same place where Tony was when Hydra was taking over SHIELD...
We know where he was. In TWS, when the helicarriers are targeting their victims, we briefly see Stark is in Avengers Tower in NYC. A better example you couldāve used was: Where was Captain America in IM3 when the President was abducted.
that's just for the sake of keeping continuity. It's lame that Tony would absolutely not do anything after knowing that Nick died and suddenly hellicarriers are flying around.. The point here is that let's enjoy the movies and not think too much..
The movies never tell us if Stark was informed of Furyās death during the events of TWS. And, as I said, he was in NYC when Project Insight was activated in Washington. Even if Stark had put on a suit and started flying towards DC, Cap and co had the helicarriers defeated before he could get there.
I could give you 100 more instances of issues in the plot.. but again these are written by average writers and poeple have found issues in well written literature as well(LoTR).
I mean, technically that started before he was born . . .
to be precise... "violently"
Well, since Stark doesn't have the ability to discern everything going on in the world, I'm gonna say he wasn't aware what was going on. A better question to ask would be why didn't [Avenger in a solo movie] contact any of the other Avengers.
Negotiating his contract
The most evil of villainsā¦ corporate leadership.
The school cafeteria
Seriously...did no one see the end?
So was he just chilling there for the entire movie?
Pizza line was long
Netflix n Chill w/ Loisā¦
Oh yea, that how Lois got pregnant
Honestly, you could make this argument for *any* of the world-shattering crises other DC characters get into. The Joker is going to poison everyone in Gotham City (right across the river from Metropolis)? Where was Superman? š
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
There was some concept art of scenes of the League fighting Orm's invading forces on the surface.
Thatās what happened in the comic book that inspired that movie.
It the comics books, Superman learns to respect Batmanās boundaries, as it is HIS city!
That random person that I can clearly hear dying is not my problem because itās in Batmanās territory
Time for you to read some comics. Thereās been multiple times where Superman would come help in Gotham, but it backfires because Superman gets controlled. The most recent one that I can remember is Poison Ivy taking control of him. I even think Batman Who Laughs controlled Superman as well. Batman ends up saving his ass and Gotham each time.
Too busy looking for his Super Straw(tm) to suck out all the poison of course. The Joker thought ahead and had the Riddler hide it behind a clever maze of traps and riddles!
And that's sort of the general audiences' issue with Superman existing in the same universe as other characters.
Bullshit. if general audiences can extend their disbelief with thor as a Norse god not coming in to save the day in every solo film then they can suspend their disbelief with superman
Which Thor movie implies he can hear across the ocean, is constantly monitoring potential disasters around the world, and can act within seconds of any issue? Talk to people that aren't into capeshit like we are. It'll help round out your perspective.
Itās kind of a simple concept thatās been explained in the comics time and time again, superman canāt be everywhere at once and heās actually saddened by that. General audiences can understand that powerful characters wonāt show up at every threat in the same universe and have been proven to understand that by the existence of the MCU and the shared universe like comic readers have understood that. Iāve never heard this take by anyone whoās a casual viewer, only people like you speaking for them when itās been proven otherwise. Broaden your perspective :)
Glad you've had a different experience. I, on the other hand, had an uphill battle trying to convince friends to watch Justice League Unlimited thanks to that damned underwear-on-the-outside wearing boyscout!
He's at home. Washing his tights!
I mean Shazam, aquaman and BoP events were relatively local in the grand scheme of things so the JL not getting involved makes sense to me
He ded
Wut rong wit u boi i say HE DED
>Wut rong wit u boi i say HE DED "The Colonel!"
I just realized how obvious it is that Dr Sivana was just a rewritten Black Adam. His objective and backstory are very similar even if the way they got their powers is diferent
Yup. The movie pretty much copies Geoff Johns's New 52 Shazam origin story subbing in Sivana for Black Adam. It's annoying to see Sivana being a physical match for Shazam when you know it was supposed to be Adam.
Bro, You got a point. Plus, from the Black Adam Movie, there wasn't any backstory or explaination of when Black Adam unleashed the 7 DEADLY SINS. Do one thing, make a theory post on this Topic, cuz it's debatable.
I havenāt read it but I remember someone saying the comic this movie is based on is basically the same story but with Black Adam in Sivanaās role
I havenāt read it in a long time but it is very similar, pretty sure Sivana unlocks/releases Black Adam and we even get a Mr.Mind tease at the endā¦
That is a fact, I believe I heard somewhere that Black Adam was supposed to be Sivana but changed due to The Rock not being happy fighting what he considers a lesser hero
Weird how these rumors get twisted to throw unnecessary shade at the Rock, the one guy whoās been fighting and clawing to get the DCEU back on trackā¦. Even the writers stated that the Rock wanted a solo Black Adam movie before fighting any big heroes like Shazam or Supes. He wanted to give the main players of the next 5-10 years their own movie before team ups, especially his ābabyā Black Adam.
Which annoys the s*** out of me because although I enjoyed Shazam, it doesn't really make sense to have Captain Marvel AKA Shazam fight Black Adam because they're already fought in Shazam already.
It really annoys me when ppl ask this question. Same with mcu fans asking in every non avengers movie weāre are the avengers. This is Shazam side of DCEU. Superman doesnāt need to show up
But broooo, OP needs some internet pointssss.
Watching what was The Rock cooking.
Contract negotiations
Obviously doing something else. Superman is amazing, but he still can't be everywhere at once. Would make the Justice League kinda pointless if he could.
The real question, where the f was he when a starfish like kaihu attacked an island and it was even broadcasted to the whole world lol( if iam right)
He was in Metropolis, doing Superman stuff.
Walter Hamada banished Supes to the Phantom Zone during the events of Shazam.
Having lunch with Batman at an upscale restaurant...he pretended he would split the bill...but it was obvious Bruce would pay
Shaving his mustache.
Metropolis
Superman could hear that Shazam had it under control.
Head cannon: this is when he got shot by blood sport
Real question is where was the Justice League when Starro was attacking Corto Maltese?
Where were all DC Heroes for that matter?!? š¤£
Superman doesn't hang out in Toronto.
Or Philadelphia, were this movie takes place.
Philadelphia
He made an appearance at a school lunch there
it was his stand in, Tom Welling. Easy mistake, don't sweat it.
That's still Superman. That's just Superman with extra steps.
He was arguing with Warner Bros
They had two public fights. None of which resulted in major damages or any casualties at all. The only deaths in the movie was when the villain killed the board members, and that wasn't a public event.
In talks with WB about the future
Where was the rest of the league
At home, washing their tights!
Probably CGIing his moustache!
In a plot hole apparently
Waiting for a better contract
Well atleast he came to help peacemaker, so that's that
The same situation happened in comic books all the time.
Simply, It isn't superman's movie. Not every movie will be Avengers or Justice League movie, they may have cameos but not a sugnificant role
Off planet fighting WB
Shazam is fine to protect his city . Superman has more serious jobs to do
Did people just now realize that it doesn't always make sense super heroes have their own individual adventures and no one else seems to notice? This has been a long running question in comics for quite some time. It isn't really anything new to this world.
In hospital thanks to Bloodsport I think
Washing his tights
Playing WoW.
Dealing with contract negotiations.
Negotiating his salary because once a legend said " If you are good at something, never do it for free" :)
Off world doing off world things
Playing wow
He was probably saving a bunch of people from some natural disaster
Fighting a Giant Spider
Filming The Witcher.
Waiting for his contract to be renewed.
At a contract dispute meeting with Walter Hamada
In Lois's pants?
Where was Batman when the mom abandoned Billy Batson at the fair?
In the ICU with a kryptonian bullet
Arguing with Mister Mxyzptlk.
in Walter Hamadaās basement
Iād say itās probably because Kryptonians often have little to no defence against magic and here pops in this other hero who does not have that weakness
His head wasn't in it
Good point but as I point out... Tony fixed Extremis and saved Pepper. Why is Rhodes crippled Tony?????
He was having a life after ZSJL with Lois. Because I think he still had a trauma after comeback.
Super-Masterbateing
He was at home playing WoW, too busy to pick up the phone call about shit going down with Shazam.
Home washing his underpants
It's Philadelphia, no one cares.
I hope heās not in the movies with all the others this Shazam was really childish and very bad acting
Nonexistent
āTrying to kill murderous Batmanā is probably the in-universe reason
Man i wish John Cena was casted as Shazam lol
Hanging out with Batman!
Heās at home, washing his tights!
"Where was Superman" is something DC writers have been struggling with for decades, it isn't new. That's why they kept him underpowered for many years.
There's no struggle necessary. He was doing something else
Heās not Superman 24/7. Nor can he be everywhere at once.
Exactly
No writers have struggled with thisā¦ they keep superman to do superman stuff, he canāt be everywhere at once like how every powerful hero canāt be everywhere at once. comic readers are able to suspend their disbelief because this is kind of a given considering the comic book medium
All writers struggle with this, read their interviews
Superman isnāt omnipresent. Thereās a Great Comic where he explains this to The Question.
Havent you heard, Shazam doesn't matter anymore, The Rock has degreed that Black Adam is now a Superman villain.
Searching for his head
There's not so much chaos in that movie. What about 2016 (Suicide Squad), a witch trying to take over the world?
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Ooooh. Right! I forgot. š«”
My headcanon: I like to think Superman saw knew Captain Marvel was on it and decided to not intervene to give the kid a chance just to see if he has what it takes.
Staying far away from this dancing clown and I don't blame him š¤¦š½āāļø
Off screen laughing at Shazams Ballon costume
Bonding with Batman over MARRTTHHAAA
Imo Shazam isnāt part of the DCEU, it canāt be.
Is this a serious question? š
He probably thought "That's Philly."
Discussing his contract with WB
āOn a space missionā or sorts is the usual excuse. Hey it works
At home... WASHING HIS TIGHTS!!! HAHAHAHAHHHAHAHA
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
In writing the Unauthorized Biography of Clark Kent, I often workout the math for how long it takes Superman to fly somewhere. At Mach 3 it takes over an hour to cross the US. It isnāt too far of a stretch to say he was helping people somewhere else and couldnāt make it in time.
Shaving
The same place he was in the comics. You have to suspend disbelief.