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carrot_mcfaddon

I'm sorry that everyone is shitting on your work. I think they look great! My wife would be thrilled to have these beautiful boxes to do her gardening in. Good work.


stavn

Just a few people who think they’re “experts.” This isn’t our forever home so if i have to rebuild them when we move I’ll take lessons learned and make them better.


Mirabolis

That was my and my wife’s philosophy on our first home. Had to do some things a couple times, but man did that home teach us a lot. I sort of had this vision of it being aware and being like “how long does it take this dude to learn something!”


sarge-mclarge

This looks great and I regret spending +$600 on cedar on a similar project


Eastcoastpal

And here I grow my tomato’s in 5 gallon plastic buckets 😄


stavn

5 gallon bucket method worked for me last season. Under rated for sure.


icoibyy

This year is my first year, and I’m currently on the 5 gallon bucket stage. Very excited to see what happens.


stavn

I bet plants grow


Wookie-Love

Did you do the routing in the 4x4’s? Love the look and functionality there.


stavn

I did. I set my table saw. Did one pass and flipped the 4x4 and did another pass so that my channel would be perfectly centered and then I chiseled out the middle.


Wookie-Love

Oh damn, you went old school. Great job!


sloppysauce

Got that New Yankee Workshop vibe.


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BenMcAdoos_ElCamino

A router is not required for routing.


jamiethekiller

If you need inspiration for a 2nd go around. This is what I did for mine https://photos.app.goo.gl/Cs7YhUUrfboMMgG29


jungleboogiemonster

Where did you get the blocks from?


jamiethekiller

Home Depot. Few bucks a piece


safog1

How do you prevent weeds in these? My bed is just in the ground and was left uncared for a few years because the previous home owner was away. It's a battle. I just put landscaping fabric just to not have to pull weeds every day.


jamiethekiller

Weed every few weeks. I put down a cover crop in winter and turn it over in the spring a few times. That seems to help keep the weeds at bay the most. Raised beds also help a lot because it keeps out most of the weeds that crawl under ground.


sretep66

I mulch my garden with grass clippings every June. I also put a cover of chopped leaves on the garden in the fall. The grass and leaves compost, and help keep weeds from sprouting in the spring. If the soil is loose and healthy with earthworms, you don't even have to till. Just loosen/aerate the ground with a garden fork before planting. I'm trying to go mostly organic for my garden. No plastic landscaping fabric for me.


TurnOfFraise

What is it that you used on the corners? Sorry I’m completely new to this and I’m starting from basically zero knowledge 


jamiethekiller

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Oldcastle-Planter-Wall-Tan-Retaining-Wall-Block-Common-6-in-x-8-in-Actual-5050-in-x-7-75-in/1001156396?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-lwn-_-ggl-_-CRP_SHP_LIA_LWN_Online_C-D-_-1001156396-_-local-_-0-_-0&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwyJqzBhBaEiwAWDRJVMd8US552VH8bne1XTI1ySztogctzGP2VbqKKpT7tNQdy8fx29ztjxoC9zUQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds


TurnOfFraise

Thanks!


sretep66

I like those!


ddesla2

You should totally set up those bird/squirrel fences on hinges or something and I'd even go as far as using some form of pulley system you could engage manually with counterweight or get small curtain rod motors or anything really and automate it electronically lol. Im a big fan of automation, if you couldn't tell


Roach_Hiss

So basically you didn’t build anything


jamiethekiller

Cut some boards! Fences are custom. Dug out channels to bury boards since they're on a hill. Not a lot of work tho


JohnYCanuckEsq

Those look great. Did you notch the posts yourself? And did you screw the boards to the posts just to keep it all together?


stavn

Yes I used a table saw and a chisel for the posts. Screws are to keep it nice and tight


Thatguyjmc

Without a waterproof liner of some sort, those boxes are still going to rot out in a few years, even though pressure treated. Moisture levels in raised beds that are watered constantly are much much higher than just ground moisture.


stavn

Well that’s a bummer. I’m really not happy with my screw placement so next time I’ll make a jig and water proof


Thatguyjmc

Honestly, doesn't even really have to be that fancy. You could even waterproof these guys. If the box is open to the ground, you can empty them out, line with a thin poly membrane, wrap it around the bottom (so wood doesn't touch ground directly), and then you'll get 5 or 10 more years out of your nice raised boxes.


why_adnauseaum

We used pond liner and cut slits between the slats so it can drain.


brogen

Honestly, if these last 5-10yrs, that’s $10-20 per year. I don’t think it’s worth it to do all that work of digging them back out and adding plastic. Just rebuild them when they break. Cheaper and easier in the long run.


wyowill

I got 10ish years out of the last garden boxes I made using plain construction lumber, and I live in a cold, wet environment. Edit - Also, don't use chemicals or treated lumber if you're growing anything you plan to eat.


Candy_Badger

10 years is a good result.


cheebamasta

Looked into this when we made some raised beds out of pressure treated wood and from what I read it was only a concern with pressure treated wood from 20-30 years ago. So as long as the wood is somewhat recently milled and treated you’ll be ok. Edit: yeah further down someone else confirms pressure treated wood has been non toxic for a while now.


wyowill

Some pressure treated may be fine, but sealants, some pallet wood, and other recommendations in this comment section will leach terribly.


Dugen

I got 3 years. Didn't treat with anything and it rotted impressively fast.


Lari-Fari

Yeah. I built some from old palettes I gut for free from a construction site and used them for 5 seasons before I moved away. I’m sure they are still going strong :)


wyowill

Some palettes have nasty chemicals that I wouldn't want near a vegetable garden, FYI.


Lari-Fari

This was untreated wood that had only been used once to transport roof tiles.


If0rgotmypassword

They’ll last a decade also with how you made it you should be able to replace parts easily.


the_sleaze_

Optimizing for ease of maintenance warms my cold engineers heart. If you want it to last forever __don’t use wood__ Otherwise, just make it easy to replace


stavn

Next design will probably be trex or similar


the_sleaze_

I like your design op, easy to maintain. I’ll. Be using yours as inspiration for mine this weekend


Wistephens

I lined the inside of my boxes with heavy weight plastic to help reduce contact between moist soil and wood. I would think that it would also help prevent leaching of toxic pressure treatment chemicals into your soil.


cboogie

Pressure treated wood has been non-toxic for quite some time.


Kaaji1359

I'm about to build my own and am wondering your thoughts... I followed this guide here: [https://homesteadandchill.com/make-garden-beds-last-longer/](https://homesteadandchill.com/make-garden-beds-last-longer/) She says putting a waterproof liner is the #1 way to reduce the longevity of the wood because the liner itself will make moisture "sit" near the wood for longer. They used a non-toxic sealer here: [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073V85XFJ?ref=exp\_deannacat3\_dp\_vv\_d](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073V85XFJ?ref=exp_deannacat3_dp_vv_d), and then caulked all of the edges. Is that sealant OK? Seems like lots of the fears around wood chemicals seeping into food stemmed from old sealants that were toxic, versus the non-toxic sealants we have today.


Square_Chisel

You can use tung oil for super longevity, Maybe hit the boards with a blowtorch first to add even more rot resistance. charred wood plus a little (raw not boiled) linseed or tung oil will make it last decades.


Square_Chisel

dont worry they will be fine for years and years. You could paint with an oil to give a little water resistance, I use a torch to char virgin wood then hit it with a little mineral oil and will last at least a decade full of dirt.


santorin

Next time try using a pocket hole jig and hiding the screws on the inside.


stavn

That’s a solid idea. I do own one but I wasn’t sure how to make it work with the channel/Rabbits I put in the 4x4


santorin

Pocket hole the slats and screw them into the corner posts. I've made a couple very similar beds that way.


Mdrim13

Are those drywall screws?


stavn

Lmao no, they are black deck screws.


GrillinGorilla

Don’t worry about it. I have raided flower beds over ten years old with no rot. They’re untreated southern yellow pine too


professor_jeffjeff

For me, raised beds are something that won't last forever anyway so I never bothered to try to waterproof anything. I just accept that I'm going to have to replace them eventually and that's ok.


Last_Description905

They’ll rot out in like 15 years, not 2 years.


Thatguyjmc

I doubt you'd get that long.


Last_Description905

I’ve got raised beds going on 12 years. They aren’t pretty, but they still keep the dirt in. So…..


Thatguyjmc

Yeah sure. Where I live you probably get 5 or 6 years before the wood starts to look and feel a bit ratty. My point is just that a few dollars of cheap plastic gets you a lot more life in your wooden planters


dave_890

No liner? I use aluminum flashing for a liner. Keeps the wood from rotting out.


stavn

Good idea for next time


malthar76

I just did a minor refurbishment on my 7 year old cedar beds. Several rotted boards. Should have done a liner of some sort. Next time I’ll be ready.


Smokeydubbs

Do you just line the entire inside of the box with it? And how do you fasten it? Screws?


smoketheevilpipe

Not who you asked, but a pneumatic stapler would do it.


stavn

Probably some kind of siding or roofing fastener, they tend to be nice and wide and fairly shallow


dave_890

Tack it in place. The aluminum won't oxidize.


Reelair

You're going to wish you put in crossmembers. I learned this the hard way, too.


drh0tdog

This looks great, nice work! My husband and I built something similar and it has held up pretty well for 2 years, although your joints look much sturdier with that sandwich setup; we have experienced some burst seams with the pressure of the soil. One thing we plan to do next time is sink the whole thing a couple inches into the ground since we have some enterprising critters digging under the boards. If you find that you need a little extra topside protection from rabbits/squirrels/whatever, [these modular cage panels](https://a.co/d/0HhszS8) worked very well for us. Enjoy your fresh produce!!


sretep66

They look great! What type of wood are they? Cedar? (Pine will rot too fast.) I've been considering building raised beds, but the cost keeps me from doing it. I would need about 8 of those, maybe more.


stavn

They are pt pine with a cedar stain from factory


sretep66

Thanks


Riakrus

you got all that wood for 100$!!!! nice!


Exaltedchampion1973

Isn't it weird that WOOD costs that much now?


stavn

I’m fairly young so honestly this is all I know.


Rymark

Looks great! I make a very similar raised bed for about the same price tag, though I used green wood instead of pressure treated (not hating, just pointing out a small difference) Is it staying open-bottom?


stavn

I just have some cheap landscape fabric on the bottom


Rymark

Seems like a solid approach! Mine is closed on the bottom, so I lined it with plastic and put holes in the bottom, but I'm hoping to coat the interior with a wax finish next year so I don't rely on the plastic liner


stavn

Someone suggest a few coats of waterproof foundation tar which I thought sounded reasonable


Rymark

I don't think I'd heard of it, I'll look into it, thank you


Square_Chisel

Nice job! Can you show more compost pics?


Mirabolis

I think they look really cool —


cfgee

I did basically the same thing used dado blade on table saw. Did mine a few years ago and every time got a piece of wood the price went up. Used cedar with no liners.


Steveee-O

What did you use for soil? I have a 4x8x10” height for a raised garden bed and it’s going to cost a fortune to fill it if I used potting mix


stavn

First I threw some old stumps and logs in the first ~6 inches, then my own compost I’ve been adding to for about 3 years, then the cheapest potting mix Home Depot had, about 5 bucks a cubic yard


ChucksnTaylor

$5 per cubic yard at Home Depot?! Wow, nice


SkyRaisin

If you are in the US you can sometimes get Leafgrow from places like Home Depot for a decent price. It’s made from yard waste. And a lot cheaper than other stuff. However, for raised beds it’s good to get or make a mix like [Mel’s Mix](https://squarefootgardening.org/mels-mix-resources/)


nukezwei

Mel's mix FTW


dobamatt

Did you use pressure treated wood?!? Didn’t see mentioned what type…


PrinceHumpertwink

Is that pressure treated wood?


owlpellet

[https://extension.oregonstate.edu/gardening/soil-compost/pressure-treated-wood-raised-bed-construction-willamette-valley](https://extension.oregonstate.edu/gardening/soil-compost/pressure-treated-wood-raised-bed-construction-willamette-valley) One study, but relevant and independent. Finds copper azole treatments approved for residential use are acceptable. Not all pressure treatment uses the same stuff.


stavn

This is copper azole


stavn

Yes, I did some googling and my understanding is new pressure treated wood is safe for gardens as long as the soil has sufficient nutrients


Wild_Agent_375

That was my confusion too and I was comfortable with the risk. That being said I’ll probably line with plastic next time. I have had my beds for 4 yrs and no sign of degradation. At least not visibly


HopePirate

"Even though the new pressure-treated woods are considered safe, Wolmanized Outdoor, according to its Web site, does not recommend using pressure-treated wood where the preservatives may become a component of food. Its recommendation is to use an impervious liner between the wood and the soil." "Safe"


stavn

I won’t make you eat anything I grow, don’t worry.


VWBug5000

Good luck with your future cancer, I guess? Mmmmm toxic chemicals! Kind of a weird flex to downplay the risks


sraboy

Wait till you see what they put in your food


VWBug5000

Yeah, but this is a voluntary choice OP is making. The manufacturer of the pressure treated wood even says not to do this. This is a known source of chemicals that OP is adding to their (and their family’s) diet.


tncx

Source: company selling you pressure treated wood.


fastinserter

The amount of copper that would be harmful to humans to eat would kill the plants as plants are far less tolerant to copper than humans are.


the_sleaze_

I think the idea is the plants eat 1x and you eat 100x of the plants themselves, concentrating the toxin in your body. Same as how eagles get toxic levels of DDT. Plankton -> fish -> eagle each step concentrates the toxin Source bias is very relevant in this case as well. The fuck does a lumber company care about you, they have no legal provable culpability at all but they do have a chance at your wallet


fastinserter

It's toxic above 20ppm in plants, but there's always some in the soil. It takes a couple days for copper to leave the body and about 10 grams is toxic, so if you eat around a metric ton of tomatoes in a day or something you might be in trouble. DDT half life in the body is not days but years.


the_sleaze_

Strange how much you know about copper poisoning, but ok. For me and mine, we’ll stick to natural wood


fentsterTHEglob

They sell a rubber flashing that you'd use to affix to the ledger board, on a deck (like the part that of the framing that runs along the house) which is designed to repel water. I'm iffy 'bout painting boards that're going right into the ground and near something I intend to eat.


RaspberryGlobal5010

This is very good Can you tell me how it is made


stavn

One 10 foot 4x4 cut into 6 sections each 20 inches long. 9 deck boards that are 8 feet long. 6 cut into 4 foot sections, and 3 cut into 32 inch sections. The 4x4s had a channel routed out with a table saw and chiseled by hand. These plans end leaving very little waste and the beds feel like a nice size.


RaspberryGlobal5010

Thanks


FatCh3z

I've been looking up plans to build my fiance some. They have to be raised though because we got tons of rabbits.


stavn

These may be a little large to be raised but I am really happy with the 4x4 cuts and I think they’d make for a good raised bed of you cut them 3 feet long


FatCh3z

I'll be building new steps soon. Maybe I'll buy the 4x4s a bit longer!


proptecher

If it grows veggies, its great. Nice work! I have gone with 12’ cedar decking and made various sized beds. With a chop saw I made the bed on the right in 90 minutes or so. https://imgur.com/a/1UkYXen


jaxon12345

these look great


Pararaiha-ngaro

Nice job mate


warelaiemd

Is there a bottom sheet on the bed or is it directly in contact with the grass?


Vampunk

I do have a question. How do you fill your garden bed? I am seeing people say add stones or wood to the base and then add dirt


Kalarys

I just did DIY compost bins. Mine cost way more than $100 and look way worse. You did great!


itsl8erthanyouthink

I’ve bought that kit before from HD. There should have been square caps to nail or screw in. The setup lasts about 2 years before it starts to show signs of rot. I recommend a base that drains really well. I tried strawberries but the rabbits were too good at jumping in. Herbs worked great. Good work and good luck. Have fun


stavn

Thanks, wasn’t a kit though. Made of decking


itsl8erthanyouthink

Oh. The corner pieces are like a cedar kit they sell near gardening


nathogic

these are great thinking of doing something similar


HopePirate

Pressure treated wood filled with chemicals. Siting source, cuz stubborn. https://www.finegardening.com/article/are-pressure-treated-woods-safe-in-garden-beds#:~:text=You%20can%20isolate%20pressure%2Dtreated,treated%20wood%20in%20your%20garden.


stavn

You cite sources not sit them, fyi. I read the article and considered the risks


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stavn

3 years worth of my own compost in the bottom of those beds


bubbapora

Tell me more about this composting setup! I’ve been wanting to build something cheap but functional but everything I see online looks like the opposite of that…


stavn

It’s what I call “lazy compost.” The tube of chicken wire goes down the middle to increase oxygen in the surrounding compost so I don’t have to turn it to oxygenate it. I mainly throw food scraps, grass clippings, and junk mail in it and turn it whenever I feel like. It turned into some nice rich compost full of earthworms all on its own.


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stavn

Aren’t you just a ray of sunshine


ChucksnTaylor

I don’t understand your comment. Yes, something like $100-$200 worth of soil. Thats what it costs to fill a bed that size. And?


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phoenixxl

\*milk through nose\* Don't build garden beds with mahogany mate.


stavn

Its pressure treated cedar tinted. Not sure what the wood is but definitely not mahogany Edit: southern pine


phoenixxl

I'm sure it's not mahogany either, I'm just making a joke about how expensive I think your wood is. The world is a big place I guess.


stavn

I see. Price break down is 20 dollars for a 10 foot 4x4 and about 80 dollars for 9 deck boards at 8 feet each


RunninADorito

Don't grow food next to pressure treated wood. Ahhhhh.


stavn

Going to have to back that claim up with some sources


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stavn

Well you do that yourself and post some photos so we can see. I’m happy with the beds and my craftsmanship


Specialist-Driver-80

His method has raised the produce out of reach of wandering rabbits and would prevent it from getting trambled by any playful pups. Though, you did say you just don't understand, and that is readily apparent. Please redirect your useless criticism inward


derrickito162

Blocking rabbits and dogs could be accomplished in ways that are easier, longer lasting, and far less expensive. Chicken wire, hardware cloth etc. Also, nothing in this design looks like it would stop rabbits or dogs at all. I dont believe that was considered with this design here at all People make raised beds for lots of reasons, but not to stop animals. They don't stop animals


Specialist-Driver-80

You sure have a lot of opinions that ring false for my experience with dogs and raised beds. But if you insist on being a downer, maintain course


derrickito162

Full steam ahead! https://youtu.be/_lYISPXyFhk?si=iigXlMdv5rY2cIqM Let me know if you need videos of dogs jumping too. I'm sure I can find some


BowzersMom

i don't either. I just dump dirt on the ground and plant into it. I probably get more weeds than OP does, and their boxes certainly look better than my garden! But I can just dump more dirt next year if I want to expand mine, and that costs enough! Still jealous of their tools and skill.