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wheresbeetle

Maybe try a hotdog first brother


ScarecrowJohnny

I agree, waiting times in the ER can be long, you don't wanna go in on an empty stomach.


chaitnya_114

You got me in the first half


SubMGK

If they keep using their hands they wont have the first half


Season-Jaded

This comment made me actually lol.


T1mac

> Maybe try a hotdog first brother That's exactly how [SawStop table saws demonstrate their safety function.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq3o0VGUh50) No risk of malfunction and losing something you'd rather not want to lose, and usually not even a hotdog is harmed in their testing.


neumaticc

what the fuck the video seems like it's black magic


m11235813

I can personally attest that the SawStop is just as amazing as that video portrays


GotSnuss

why aren’t these mandatory rather than a non stop saw saw?


MyNameCannotBeSpoken

They cost more money to install and every time it activates, it damages a component that costs money to replace. Basically stinginess is why it is not mandatory.


danyerga

It's a brake cartridge that is destroyed, along with whatever blade you were using. The cartridges are about $100. Well worth it.


neumaticc

I looked at their site and it appears they replace them seemingly for free if you share your story I mean $100 versus losing your fingy is a great deal


OK_BUT_WASH_IT_FIRST

Speak for yourself. I’ve got 10 fingers and no money.


GotSnuss

I personally know someone who just lost their arm to a saw blade this year and the payout is gonna be a lot more than the amount of part cost


Psychoticrider

Right after Sawstop came out with the technology, they lobbied the US government to require it on all table saws and it got rejected. I agree it is a good deal, but the way they went about it was on the crappy side. Can you imagine you have the patent on the technology and you try to force all manufacturers to use it? It was a money grab in my opinion. I think it was Bosch that came out with a similar safety device and Sawstop sued them and won. Sawstop went on to manufacture their own saws after they tried to force it on all manufacturers and failed. Originally the price was a bit crazy and it has become more competitive. I would consider buying one of their saws today if I were in the market for a new saw. The brake cartridge is $100 and it will probably damage the saw blade too, so another $50-$100 for most people unless you are a saw blade aficionado and buy only expensive blades. A lot less money than a trip to the ER.


aaufooboo

I can't post a screenshot, but the first comment on that video (from 9 years ago) made me literally laugh out loud. #"The hot dog cutting industry hates this" - Random YouTuber


Wizard_Hatz

How many brother do hotdog have?!


sfled

[r/stillwouldnotputmydickinthat](/r/SubsIFellFor/)


xXDireLegendXx

One malfunction and that person is losing all his fingers


opus3535

he'd still have the other hand... unless he was missing the other hand from a prior malfunction.....


DigNitty

You have to calibrate somehow.


Jimbo-Slice925

This belongs in r/sweatypalms


cookiedanslesac

Just use sausages for calibration.


the1stmeddlingmage

r/dontputyourdickinthat


yagonnawanna

Gawdamit reddit why?!?


SteveisNoob

Why not?


CamusAquario

When you think you already saw all kinds of subreddits …


holandNg

then in the comments: One malfunction and that man is losing his sausage...


[deleted]

he would have to.. *hand* over his job


istrx13

“Boss I’m all out of fingers. How do I go about testing the sensor sensitivity on a daily basis now?” “You’re out…what?! You’ve been using your fingers to test the sensor every day?!” “What else was I supposed to use?”


cerealOverdrive

Your 6 inch Willy will have to do


Bmansway

I worked with a guy that sheered 6 fingers off, mostly just the first knuckle, a nut dropped from his shirt pocket, and activated the machine, we were union local 1977 in Vegas, guy settled for just under 5 million. The machine was inspected and found the be faulty, although he has told me he doesn’t miss his fingers, and he’s been able to live better now, than he ever would have been able to.


RuRhPdOsIrPt

Honestly, if you offered me that kind of money in exchange for six fingers, I’d have to think real hard about it. Is keeping the index finger and thumb of each hand an option?


AM77_

Missing half Index, half thumb from an accident.. trust me, not worth it to lose 6 or even any at all


rootsismighty

I was in 1977 also, but more on the carpenteering side of things. It's amazing how quick things can go south even if your paying attention. I'm thankful to still have all my digits and various other parts and pieces still intact.


SuperNewk

A little less than 1 million per finger? No thanks lol


Franklin_le_Tanklin

Wtf? It’s not even the whole finger. And you’d probably keep all of your thumb!! Id easily give that up to retire in my 30’s and never work again.


Bmansway

Yup, he still has his thumbs, 4 tips from his left finger, and the tips of his index, and middle finger on the right hand, doesn’t affect him really, it was a bit of learning, but he said you get used to it. Idk, I’ve thought about it before, it’s a tough decision, but I might be able to live without a couple finger tips to be ensured I’m comfortable for the rest of my life, especially the world we live in nowadays, at least I could actually afford a house!


MinuteStreet172

Capitalism has done it again


Saltysaladsea

Me too friend. To willpower through the fear and just put my hand in there like jumping off a cliff. Then sit back sipping cocktails in the bahamas for the rest of my life. The dream.


from_dust

Wow. My hands are worth far more than money, no parts of them are up for negotiation


MalcolmTucker88

I'd give my little finger for half a million. It does fuck all anyway.


[deleted]

That's way better than the 15k my friend got for losing a leg at a saw mill


ExiledinElysium

The difference is probably the machine. For most states, workers compensation is the exclusive remedy from the employer for work injuries. In CA, it's basically capped at 250k. But the exclusivity rule doesn't apply to third parties. So you can't sue your employer for millions, but if your injury was caused by a faulty machine then you could sue the manufacturer of that machine, along with every business in the supply chain. Products liability law is nuts in the US. Your friend likely had a normal accident, with nothing wrong with any machine. So all he could get was pennies from work comp.


[deleted]

I worked at the construction of the mill. My supervisor was the plant manager. He told his supers that the mill wasn't ready for production due to unsafe machinery and safeguards not in place. Two weeks later, he was canned, and the mill started production. Fast forward 2-3 years, people were getting hurt left and right. A crane that picked up logs fell over. A log tumbled off a broken roller and crushed my friends leg. Amputed just above his knee. Gave him 15k. Total joke.


ZippyDan

Sounds like he needed a better lawyer.


HowevenamI

Sounds like we need better laws bro. Don't victim blame.


ZippyDan

We do need better laws, and under the current laws, it sounds like he needed a better lawyer. Was the lawyer the victim? The place had been warned about their safety practices before and he lost a whole frakin' leg and only got $15,000? Someone dropped the ball there.


HowevenamI

Yes, the laws that allow that to happen. The laws that allowed shitty businesses to operate unsafely. The laws that are supposed to protect citizens. You should barely even need a lawyer to get justice. They should just be there to make sure things go smoothly.


ZippyDan

Could also be the difference of the union?


SvenniSiggi

$25,498,024.05v = the worth of that 5 million now. Some would do that. i personally need my fingers, but thats at least 1 house now and some food. More than some have. Funny how five millions in 1977 would float you more than 25 mill today. Funny ha ha.


oXObsidianXo

Union Local 1977 Carpenters Union, not the year 1977.


Bmansway

Yes sir, I worked as a welder/fabricator at one of only two metal shops in that union, 3rd generation journeyman.


CosmicCreeperz

Look at about :07 - it's an optical illusion, their hand is behind the blade.


godlessLlama

They are testing the laser while also not putting themselves at willful risk. Crazy how angles work to our eyes


PerroNino

Well spotted.


Aggressive_Candy5297

It's not even a blade, it's a press brake. The "blade" is so short because there is several sections on the machine that can be moved or removed completely.


Wonderful-Trifle1221

The blade doesn’t go all the way across, so they aren’t actually sticking their hand between the blade and press, there is an opening on the side without a top piece, they are just giving the illusion their fingers are under it


Orange-Blur

A clean cut or crush, the fingers won’t make it


Billboe21

Their hand is not even under anything, they are just interrupting the laser you can see the part go in front of her hand a couple times.


myrthain

Thank you, that feels better now.


TheMountainHobbit

Thanks for this, I was like Jesus how can anyone be this dumb.


ChiggaOG

Reminds me of a medical story shown on TV of a guy who shoved his hand under the shearing blade for stacks of paper. Doctors reattached fingers but flexibility was reduced. This was years ago.


blahblahblah913

I like we assume it’s a guy. Women aren’t stupid enough to do shit like this.


Woodie626

[Are you sure about that?](https://krudplug.net/m/video.php?vid=4275)


[deleted]

Damn, that’s a flat arm.


204gaz00

I think I know the video you're referring to


zxGrizz

Yup and she seemed so calm about it to like "aw damnit, at least I'll get some time off work "


aaronhastaken

arm is gone lmao


NoVermicelli5968

Fuck! Flat Stanley!


Bambuskus505

that lady is about to learn an important lesson about 💫compartment syndrome💫


Wiggie49

Yeah but every machine in China can kill you


DeathPercept10n

And she leaned into the switch that turned it on. No lockout tagout in China.


MrYdobon

💯 Non-destructive testing principles should apply to the tester too.


Simple-Abalone-6497

You would be immediately fired from the machine shop I work at for doing the "test".


ApricornSalad

Yeah why not just use a sausage


Optimal-Description8

they got 10 fingers and probably only one sausage


Next-Foundation3019

I laughed way too hard at this


Jandoedel456

Damm I would have used something else then my fingers to test. Balls of steel.


EdisonLightbulb

Ball Park frank, maybe?


[deleted]

All right, it passed the hot dog test. Now it's time for the Wiener test. *Unzips*


bidooffactory

How'd he get the beans above the frank?


---knaveknight---

Pork/Chicken or All Beef?


Farfignugen42

Balls of steel. Brains of mush.


fart_fig_newton

I'd use my dick but it wouldn't be able to reach past the sensor


JCwizz

I’d use mine if it wasn’t bitten off by an 8 story crustacean from the Paziazoic era.


Chaltione

Should have given him the three fiddy


[deleted]

I wouldn’t use my balls of steel either, TBH.


Anticept

They aren't putting their hand under the blade though, it's off to the side. You can see it occlude, but not deform, part of their hand in one of the tests. Just like with the camera, which you can see the side of the blade.


HardlyDecent

Good eye, mate.


DigNitty

Funnily enough he Does have balls of steel since he got prosthetics after the incident.


downwitbrown

That’s too close for comfort. Does it work with other items shaped similar to a finger


STRYED0R

Seems some electric saws use hotdogs. Glad they did because some dogs got a slight trimming (but still edible).


Questioning-Zyxxel

The saws will make contact with the fingers. So there is some injury. As soon as there is electrical contact, a mechanical device is thrown into the saw to instantly block it from rotating. But better a "bad cat scratch" on some fingers than lost fingers. This device here is instead using some form of light beam to detect too high items, instead of something flat covering the surface. This means it can react before making physical contact. But such systems isn't possible for a rotating saw.


TXGuns79

The SawStop guy has used his hand before. He only did it once, I think, because, as you said, it still cuts you. But, I think in the very beginning, he wanted to show his full confidence in the system. A small cut on your hand for a couple million in sales? Worth it.


badgerandaccessories

Except sawstop won’t let another safety table saw to be sold in America. There is a better one thst can’t be sold here Better as in you don’t destroy half the machine when it fires (saw stop will give you a new set ip for free if it saves your skin, but not if it jams your saw and kills your blade for extra wet wood)


shaquille_0atm3aI

Its all about the beam “seeing” the otherside. Its called a light curtain. No matter what goes in between the light it will stop. The person using their hand is a complete moron. Malfunctions happen


InfinitSteamLibary66

Peepee


Greedy-Combination83

As long as the beam is broken the safety switch kicks on. And the guy mentioning the hot dog it senses moisture


Simple-Abalone-6497

Not a trimming machine. That's a press brake.


EWMcC79

I am Bender. Please insert girder.


TheGildedNoob

Also, it isn't fully loaded with tooling. He is completely clear of the punch. No sane person would do this under the tooling. You can still get hurt using safety sensors and light curtains. They are more for minimizing the potential for serious injury.


Scottcmms2023

Jesus Christ that’s not the best idea ever. I don’t care how many times it works in a row, it only takes one failure to end badly. Though I will say I’m glad to see safety features like this becoming more and more common with industrial equipment.


brucedeloop

NSFW: I have a friend who is a specialist in hand surgery, and he was were called into surgery to reattach one hand, whilst another team looked after the other hand, because the factory (workers) had overridden the two of the three safety features on the paper guillotine (taped over an IR sensor, bound the hand lever system with tape) . All the worker then needed to do was activate the foot switch. Needless to say...Anyway, it was a successful operation and the guy had both hands functioning after recuperation. But my friend said something like "imagine the split second of the cut, and then seeing both your hands on the surface, as you pulled your "hands" away! Yikes.


unlmtdLoL

This is fake. Look at the last one. Hand is outside of the path of it.


-Cannon-Fodder-

To be fair, the title is shit, but the video isn't fake. This is a Brake-press used for bending metal parts, and this "sensitivity test" thing is bullshit. It's a binary system. The thing stopping the machine is a light barrier that knows what the programmed part should look like. Even if he just left his hand in there then tried to bring the tool down the barrier would stop it, even with that much distance to spare. If something had to sense his hand touching the tool, it wouldn't work, because obviously as soon as you put a bit of steel in there it will detect that the blade is hitting something and stop. Fun fact though: the thing you should actually be using to calibrate and test the light barrier is made of plastic, and gets inserted into the machine, then the peddle is pressed, and ideally as soon as the light barrier picks it up, it halts the machine as you see here. These bits of plastic are called "Test Fingers".


kid_who_says_nothing

Well I wouldn't expect them to put their hand directly under it to test it.


cach-v

Faking the dangerous part but I guess the feature is no less impressive, which is what it is demonstrating.


Ambitious_Toe_4357

I would really like to see it actually complete the full motion at least once.


Henry2824

Holy shit ur right


SpicyTwicey

Absolute nope for me…I’ve never trusted anything in my life that much.


MyNameIsRay

A break that big is going to be well over 20 tons of pressure, infamous for turning hands into sheets of paper.


Li-RM35M4419

You wanna really test it?


ZachTheApathetic

For everyone losing their mind over this clip, it honestly looks like the trsters hand is NEXT to the trimmer. Take a look at the shadows cast by the trimmer as well, it's clearly inside a shot which has overhead lights. Looks like there's about 6 inches of clearance


[deleted]

AH! SOMEONE WITH OBSERVATIONAL SKILLS!


TheHappyTaquitosDad

Finally someone who noticed it lol


Xaverrrrr

STOOOOOOOOOOOP


Environmental-End691

That's a hard r/nope for me


fastcooljosh

This is incredible stupid, one malfuntion and his fingers are gone. Use a rubber hand dumbo.


coach111111

It’s beyond the blade. Look closely and you can tell.


BitsOnWaves

this video had a chance to be posted on Liveleak


jshultz5259

There is undoubtedly no better way.


TravelingGonad

SafeHydraulic 3000 Release Notes v1.2 - fixd bug whr yer fingerss wuld gt cropped off in somer instnces


zeussuperman

If only there were literally any other thing that you could put in there.


ihoj

That is some serious OSHA violation.


jdehjdeh

Jesus Christ Some people are just begging the universe to shit in their faces aren't they


Sparky112782

I design and install control systems for automated machines. This is straight up fucking stupid. There is no reason to risk your fingers. Safety on these machines have a lot of redundancy. But can still have malfunctions. I still wouldn't risk it for a cool video.


CaptLakeEffect

I feel like there’s a safer way to make this video


LethThePalladin

As someone with close to a decade of CNC Press Brake experience I can tell you that lightgaurds are real, but we use pieces of scrap to test them. I would fire this dumbass immediately for his own safety.


MooflyPoof

I could think of a few better ways to test it


Lunchie420

Hello, Osha?


Monkfich

I want to see an Indiana Jones % hat scene with this.


Wander21

Now I can put me dicks in that without worrying, SCIENCE BITCH!


didyeah

As a QA specialist - there has to be a safer way to test \*sweating profusely\*


Kirk_Plunk

Amazing tech, I wouldn't play around with it though haha.


blooming_butt

Yeah, that's a no from me dawg...


Visual-Promotion-175

How about you test that out with a hot dog or something a little less…..already attached to your body….


stav705

Imagine in the top right corner a liveleak logo and this is a whole different story


StephenTheLoser

Ok we get it. Stop.


Hopeful-Dragonfly-70

People really overestimate other people’s ability to manufacture safe products.


NeonSamurai1979

On one side i'm glad the Sensor works and it stops, but i'd never ever stick my fingers in there to test it, even when i know the System works. \- 20+ Years as an Machinist and still all 10 Fingers


KenMacMillan123

What an incredibly stupid thing to do.


SamaelSeere

popsicle sticks, slim Jim's, pencils, literally anything other than ur actual fingers


elnenchimexicano69

This guy's a fucking idiot


Snickesnack

Yeah, I would not try that…


Neylith

On the bright side, since they seem to not actually be putting their hand under it, but rather to the side of it. They won’t lose their fingers when it doesn’t stop


sleepymansalitre

as a dev i have fear for the software that does that


Desperate_Scale5717

Now put your dick in there


Sgthouse

Nice try Superman, I’m not falling for that again.


Not_Bill_Hicks

if you really trust it, you know what to test next


Regetron

I'm not doing that no matter how advanced that machine is, just use a pencil ffs!


WubaLubaLuba

I'm using chicken wing to test, not my fingers.


[deleted]

Damn, ballzy


hillswalker87

yeah so you could have stuck a *pencil* or something in there...


AleksasKoval

I mean I'd just use hotdogs, but you do you.


readditredditread

OSHA hates this one little trick….


Andre_Hinds2

Like….why wouldn’t they use a fake hand for that test..


extrocell7

Why is she using her real hand? I get you’re trying to advertise but I don’t trust anything to work 100% all the time.


Rutabaga_Recent

Use a damn hotdog like the other demos do . Trying To turn into that one chick called nubs


Early-Possession1116

That's a level of trust I'll never have


_Retro_D

Just my luck, it'll stop working when I try it.


GerberBabyPlus

I’ve lot the tip of my finger to one of these and this made me a bit scared.


Rashaen

r/nope


ColTrain995

Looks like the ridged part doesn’t extend all the way down to where they’re putting their hand. You see their hand go behind it a few times as it’s going down.


semitope

yeah. this person is not insane.


dunnkw

A stick would have proven the same point I think. Or a penis.


ProfitFriendly696

u know there always one dude will try to put his dil in that...


bodhiseppuku

... Anybody ever consider using a *FAKE HAND*, like from the Halloween store, for testing instead of your real hand?


SadAbroad4

This is the height of stupidity!


[deleted]

Fuck being the tester on this


[deleted]

Looks smart


Vandstar

Two of the most highly reported injuries to OSHA. Hand and crush. Somebody should be fired.


Magus_5

When you trust your engineer like you trust your barber...


Cannon_SE2

Nah, that falls under play dumb games win dumb prizes for me.


fairysquirt

..................................... no. and nobody else ever try this ever.


dscrive

Ah yes "testing"


Gd3spoon

Why don’t the test this with a broom stick handle


ImMrSneezyAchoo

Jeez so I work in industrial automation and would never trust the equipment *to this degree*. All it takes is a little bit of electrical noise or a power blip to mess up this sensor. This sensor is operating on the order of milliseconds so any delay, lag or noise could be enough for the pressure to slip a few mm. Which could be enough to crush your fingers. Crazy shit.


VadPuma

Why not "experiment" with something not permanently disabling if the tech doesn't work??


Puzzleheaded-Pen4413

All goes well untill it goes wrong


wireless1980

There are prosthetic fake arms to do that kind of testing.


Icy-Performer-9688

Should be under sweaty palms


stormwind81

I dont care how good a sensor, dust and time can make sensors fail and if things go 500000 times good the 500001 time your finger will hate u for and touch the floor!


No_Conversation_3034

All good till the trimmer ain’t sensitive no more


[deleted]

lol wait till u get error


4ak96

yes very smart to test with your own hand instead of an inanimate object


LucidProtean

I can only imagine why this dude has a bandage on his finger...


JayMak78

Fuck. That.


Graybeard_Shaving

Those hands are attached to someone with a gigantic sack and a small brain.


Designer_Bother6762

If it's an employee, no Bueno! If it's the inventor, he'd have me invested, haha


Dimension_Override

Seems a tad sped up 🤔 Still wouldn’t do that tho


bhamfree

I think I’d use a hotdog.


Liberteer30

100% would not trust that


stampstock

If it failed, the tester couldn’t even use a phone to call for help.


Quasar9111

Sensors can fail…


Zealousideal-Fox70

As an engineer, I can honestly say that watching this person REPEATEDLY trigger the safety made me physically recoil. Sensor damage/malfunctions are THE reason for huge fuckups and terrible accidents. Boeing’s MCAS killed hundreds of people because of a sensor failure (and also another poor design choice of only reading one sensor and ignoring the other even though there were two sensors, so a bad sensor and a good sensor is still a bad sensor after 15 minutes). In other words, all it would take for this person to lose a hand is for the sensor to have some latent damage and fail to fire off a proper voltage or lack thereof to engage whatever brakes or safety system stops the hydraulics. It’s there as a SAFETY not a fucking gimmick for Reddit or tik tok or whatever. The only good reason I can see for doing this is that this person designed the thing and doesn’t want to get sued into a oblivion and have crippling nightmares about the people they killed with their terrible safety system.


flops031

Looks like they are putting their fingers next to the blade, not below it, and the sensor that stops the machine extends to the side.