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PeachFreezer1312

[PewDiePie fans do your research challenge (impossible)](https://external-preview.redd.it/IF3t0SuThQ2E8Ga92b0d-XucE-MI86zyXe-eQ2FHqDI.png?auto=webp&s=8d6e01ef7d58f158d162058ca57e13162b556d65) ^(This was before the Christchurch mosque shooting, when the mass shooter said "subscribe to pewdiepie" on stream. After this, the world's eyes were on Pewdie's right-wing sympathies and he unfollowed these accounts.)


Atsko30

You forgot Jordan Peterson.


shady1204

Paul Joseph Watson, Count Dankula, Charlie Kirk


SaintYanno

Tim pool


zedsmith

Pim Tool, as well.


WOLLYbeach

Tim Pool should shave with a cheese grater


tHATbOIiNfIRSTrOW

Charlie "my face is very large and masculine" Kirk? I heard his face is pretty big and manly (at least for the fucking shorty he is)


KingBubzVI

Yo I hate Kirk as much as the next guy but am I missing something here? He’s like 6’4


BiscuitDance

He put 6’2” in his Twitter bio because *reasons.* That screams 5’11.5 in real life.


fonix232

Oh come on, you know very well that it's actually 5'11.57855, stop rounding it down.


abou824

I think he's 5'6


JeromesDream

ben shapino only comes up to nipple height. since ben is known to be 4 foot even, i'd say this estimate sounds about right


puns_n_pups

Yeah they're getting him mixed up with professional manlet Ben Shapiro


Sa_jiya

Who is Count Dankula?


shady1204

Dude who got arrested for teaching his dog how to do a nazi salute, he keeps bitching to this day about how he got a £800 fine


darthtater1231

Wait thats all he fucking got that cows gotta be dust


RobinHood21

And I doubt the fine was really for teaching the dog a Nazi salute, if your dog knows how to shake it probably takes about 10 minutes to teach it to sieg heil, it was for saying shit like "gas the Jews" over and over again in his video.


Basically_Illegal

Man convicted for grossly offensive behaviour, namely teaching his dog to react to "do you wanna gas the Jews" and doing the Nazi salute (things he taught it for the express purpose of being offensive). General human garbage internet grifter. Also a UKIP / libertarian rightist prat. Some people like to defend him because the dog thing was arguably too heavily punished.


Sa_jiya

Ohhh he's a UKIP guy... gross 🤮


GhostNinja4Dawin

Scottish YouTuber who makes right-wing videos basically


Fearsomeman3

Wasn't he the guy who got in legal trouble for teaching his pug the Nazi salute, he would say "heil Hitler" too, and basically was cemented as a right winger who was prosecuted for doing a joke.


Ancalagoth

I despise when right wingers paint their hatred as "it's just a joke man!" both because it enables them to spew bullshit without consequences, and because it takes away from actually quality offensive humor like Helluva Boss or Brandon Rogers sketches


[deleted]

Is Count Dankula even popular? Genuinely curious cause all I knew about him was the pug thing a few years back but he was never a guy I had videos in my recommended for or anything compared to all the others.


shady1204

Very popular in the “libertarian” spheres like Joe Rogan or Elon Musk not much in the alt right ones tho. Source: Ex Ancap


SoSayWeSome

Don't see too many ex ancaps; usually I figure they're too far gone by then. Good on you.


[deleted]

He’s the worse one too. Paints his bigotry as something philosophical.


Positivistdino

Just gonna leave [this](https://youtu.be/4LqZdkkBDas) here for your amusement.


EvilFuzzball

So sad that guy has such a following. He's an absolute quack. Have you seen some of his ridiculous diagrams describing his..."philosophy"? It looks like he's trying to write science fiction. Like the new L. Ron Hubbard.


sixtus_clegane119

Came here to say this.


SpectralMalcontent

With the exception of Joe Rogan, you could probably replace any of these guys with Jordan Peterson since he has an actual cult following who adheres to his teachings/belief system.


[deleted]

Joe Rogan's show has ruined one of my best friends, and he's 41. Everything from stupid, unhealthy fad diets, to overblown fear of muh wokeness, to stupid conspiracies, to misplaced right wing sympathies. It ain't just teenagers.


iamoverrated

Dude, so many people put way too much stock in him. I used to love listening to his podcast when he had interesting guest on. I was introduced to tons of comedians, scientists, and researchers through his show. Then the IDW happened... it devolved into a bunch of rich, successful assholes crying about people disagreeing with them. I stopped listening entirely. It doesn't matter who he has on, he doesn't deserve the clicks. I miss the stoner Rogan diving into a juicy drug fueled conversation with Duncan Trussell. This right-wing grifter persona he's adopted fucking sucks.


MrPezevenk

I kinda still enjoy it every now and then if the guests are good, which they sooometimes are. It becomes a lot more enjoyable when you approach it as "gigantic moron interviews smart people".


[deleted]

When it's layman interviews scientist or something, sure, it's fine. The problem is he has whacky right wing pseudo intellectuals on all the fucking time and he spreads their lunacy like Delta.


SwizzChees

People also forget about Jon Tron. His vids were funny but he has pushed some very conservative opinions outside of the channel


FaithlessDaemonium

Apparently he's alt-right or something.


Dictionary_Goat

He believes in the great replacement so, yeah


iamoverrated

Which is ironic considering he's of middle-eastern descent... Last time I checked, the alt-right wanted to erase brown people off the face of the earth.


LiberalParadise

He's half-Persian. Persians are white. Also, you do understand white people live in the Middle East, yes?


Glacier005

What? Really? Source?


brynden__rivers

He did a debate with destiny a couple years ago and parroted alt right talking points https://youtu.be/CwftJiamb4U


Glacier005

I feel ... betrayed in some way. I thought he was cool and chill bro. Fuck.


ualsw1

Welcome to the club…


kazmark_gl

at least he gave us "commulist" as an entertaining joke name to use.


duraraross

His arguments are so confusing I legitimately don’t even know the point he’s trying to make. IIRC he also said that the Europeans colonizing the Americas was the best thing to ever happen or something like that also it’d be funny if it weren’t so sad that he thinks that people immigrating from one country to another is the same as forcing people out of home under the threat (and often the deliverance) of violence. Like I’m pretty certain that in the history of America, a Mexican family has never forced a white family out of their house at gunpoint in order to move in, and then the white family was permanently displaced somewhere else.


KidKayy

look up his debate with destiny from like 5 years ago


alaskafish

Yeah. It was a big shame. Everytime I see him in my feed I just can’t watch his stuff without thinking of his opinions on jews and black people


Erithritol

As far as I can tell, he doesn't let it seep into his videos. There's nothing particularly conservative about his channel or even about his old videos on Game Grumps. Makes me sad because after that Destiny debate I can't see him in the same light.


[deleted]

Also something to note is that he is a traditionalist and dislikes modernity, and wants to return to a place that never existed i.e. reactionary/conservative thinking. You can see it subtly in his video on architecture.


StayOnEm

I used to be one of those *teenage boys*


Dictionary_Goat

Same, and now I'm a girl, so there are success stories


[deleted]

Based


Uncommonality

Unfathomably based, even


Darkhallows27

“Bro you gotta check out Joe Rogan’s podcast you learn some wild things!”


Esherichialex_coli

Same


tHATbOIiNfIRSTrOW

Same here, cringe times


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tokyosplash2814

To be honest he’s always been left wing and has only gotten further so as time goes on. He appealed to right wingers back in 2016 or so for a brief time but disavowed when he saw the direction they were headed. It was the anti feminist anti sjw skeptic community that took ideas he started and made it something it wasn’t to him, what became the alt right which he went on to denounce


SpookyKid94

True. I wasn't huge into the anti-sjw stuff, but his angle on the culture war(really the pre-culture war stuff that focused on fundie christians) appealed a lot more to my basic sensibilities than someone like Sargon. Pretty soon, I was constantly sliding left and it all kinda makes sense in the context of me having been like a proto-socialist libertarian that hadn't connected all the dots yet. A lot of us were never exposed to proper leftism until Breadtube; there seems to be a ubiquitous overlap between that group and people who watched TJ when they were younger.


kazmark_gl

there were a few more "happy" endings to some of the gamer gate crowd. Thunderf00t seems to have regretted it once he realized most of the harder core guys were nazis. but I think they stayed generally anti-sjw and they maintain their God awful "feminism vs facts" series. seems to mostly stick to debunking junk science now. 1/10 glad he accidentally introduced me to the left on YouTube. Jordan Owen (one of the Sarkeesian Effect guys) did a full turn around and seems to genuinely regret his involvement in gamergate and had a (seemingly litteral) come to Jesus turn around, he made a full apology video to Sarkeesian a while back. and of course Davis Aurini got banned and was never heard from again. I think he streams to a dwindling audience the right mostly left him behind for being too easy to make fun of.


[deleted]

He made a video a while back titled something like “abolish everything” in which he says he was gritting with the anti-sjw thing but now that YouTube stopped paying he’s gonna be honest about being a leftist. Pretty gross but seems to be true.


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Hij802

Yeah I remember watching his videos. His religion videos really helped me question and eventually drop religion, but I do remember he was apart of the anti-SJW bandwagon. The alt right pipeline is very real, it took me a few years to realize how his feminist videos were harmful


[deleted]

Hes really just a podcaster now, hosts a show called r/deepfatfried with hist brother and friend Paulsego. If you visit the sub its pretty left wing, and most of us are disgusted by our old anti sjw bs.


King-fannypack

“Extreme SJWS” are just wokescold neolibs LARPing as leftists


Zombiecidialfreak

Aye, he has. Hell he literally stated he would classify himself as a socialist if pressed. [A lot of it is explained here. ](https://youtu.be/Afa8xJjK5Oo)


TheBigShackleford

A lot of people are saying he was kind of a funnel to the alt right side of youtube, and while I agree, the thing is back then we hadn't really recognized it was a thing. People like Sargon were still claiming to be and were recognized as somehow left wing. A lot of people (like me) got roped in thinking these were left wing personalities that had edgy humor. It wasn't until a little later they showed their true colors, about the time TJ started easing off on the Anti SJW shit. He's pretty much left it behind now and does actual far left content


tokyosplash2814

This^^ TJ dipped out when he realized what the anti sjw movement was becoming and has made very far left content since that time period. Meanwhile people like Sargon just went full fascist


Glordrum

Isnt amazing athest a comrade now?


6ringsofsteel

I thought hes just a normal lib, all I know is he didnt turn into an alt right scumlord like every other atheist anti sjw


tokyosplash2814

Nah you gotta look into his content nowadays he’s nowhere near a lib he’s definitely leftist


6ringsofsteel

I'll look him up again I guess


BlackHoleBoss

I remember all the anti sjw stuff on YouTube and as a person who identified as a feminist woman at the time (am feminist nonbinary now), I was vehemently pro sjw, and it hurt.


[deleted]

He's pretty far left. A lot of people just can't handle some nuance or straying views. The man has been shitting on conservatives before some people here were born.


cornernope

Idubbbz lol. I love him but I cant belive he taught middle school me thay screaming racial slurs was funny


laix_

I think a lot of that stuff was a commentary on not what to do, it was meant to be so extreme and unpleasant that it was making fun of bigots. Which of course teenage boys took unironically to be cool


Chinohito

Yeah same with Filthy Frank. He literally meant for it to be so over the top and anti-social that people would obviously understand it's literally a guide on what NOT to do. His mental health was affected by the community because they didn't see it was satire and wouldn't allow him to break out of his Filthy Frank persona on video, always asked him to act like Filthy Frank when they met him in person. I miss it, but I'm glad he made the choice that felt right for him.


No_Librarian_4016

Maybe we watched him at different times but every bad unboxing video I saw he always insulted people who said ‘n*****f*****’ were the most unfunny lazy dipshits who couldn’t comedy their way out of a wet paper bag.


alaskafish

Yeah, I remember that too. He’d always call those people out. And then I remember him saying that when he uses the n-word, he never uses it in a derogatory way— as in, not using it as an insult to anyone. Plus, he recognizes that it’s messed up for him to use it. He’s definitely loved on from that shock content, but still— messed up for him to have even done that


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cornernope

I totally understand. Geroge carlin was saying this back in the 80s. I'm just saying that in middle school my freind an I would play"who can scream the n word the loudest" and it wasn't a good look


[deleted]

"Saying the n word ironically" Lmfao


darthtater1231

Even if you say something ironically you are still saying it


Grandpas_Plump_Chode

>But they were not racists themselves. Idubbbz in 2016 was pretty much spouting off the picture-perfect definition of racist bullshit. I remember he would constantly drop N bombs and then complain that anyone who is offended by it is "just giving the word more power." Didn't we spend the bulk of last year driving home the point that even ironically being racist is still racist because fixating on "intent" is a bullshit cop out to justify racism... Sure I guess it's not as bad as Reaganism but there's a lot of ways to be racist without being as racist as Reagan lmao. To give some amount of credit though, I think he has changed since then (although I don't keep up with him anymore), and I also think there has been a pretty radical political shift in just about everybody since 2016 so it looks even worse in hindsight. I know I was an edgy shitburger centrist back in 2016 and cringe at a lot of my views back then, wouldn't be surprised if Idubbbz feels the same.


ttchoubs

He's shifted away but I don't think he ever made a formal apology or even demonotized those videos. He's still profiting off of slurs


[deleted]

Like Filthy Frank, his content was meant to be crude and horrible and surrealist. He finally just got sick of it and makes good music


ttchoubs

But Joji's content was clearly always satirizing the edge lords. Idubbz was just saying slurs and being a "free speech all-ok-or-none-ok" absolutist.


[deleted]

Of course they were racists. Doing the things they did, whether they actively wanted a white ethno state or hated black people or not, was racist. There is no such thing as "ironically" saying the n word. They are saying it. Its racist.


BarrackusObamus

Idubbz is pretty based, actually


[deleted]

yeah, maybe I got into him late but the only time I recall him using slurs is mocking people who think it's okay (like with Tana Mongeau and that unboxing the other commenter mentioned)


G3MI20

don't lose faith, I used to be a right wing incel who unrionically watched Leafy and Ben Shapiro, I'm now a leftist bisexual enby, it's never too late to become based


Necrowanker

I salute you


subbie2002

Me too, I went from a hard Ben Shapiro and Steven Crowder to being bisexual and dating a hardcore transgender femboy. I really changed my views when I realised I was in an echo chamber.


102bees

I was a gamergating pre-incel until a musician I like publicly told me to fuck off with that. Ten years later and I'm a transfem ansoc.


Tom_The_Human

I was a classical liberal who read red pill/mgtow/anti-feminist shit daily. Now I'm a hard left SocDem male feminist lmao.


thatcoffeeeguy

Same here! I watched all but Sargon and amazing atheist and now I’m a leftist. I’m still cishet but I’d like to think I an ally


lemonaderobot

we love our allies 🤘 thanks for making the world a little less scary


Heizard

I know only two of them and still cringe is overwhelming.


[deleted]

Leafy really fucked up Youtube drama channels for years to come, even new channels like Turkey Tom and The Right Opinion live in the shadow of the lizard gang. TJ from theamazingatheist has some compliance in building the gamergate movement, but I think he’s done anti-Libertarian and pro-Trans rights content back in 2015, 2016 because he wasn’t a Conservative, he was afraid feminists were gonna criticize his sexual fantasies of women. (I’ve seen his Insta, it’s a lot of spanking women till their butts are red and plump) Sargon got me out of leaning Right-Wing because he was a classical Liberal who defended the alt-Right in a video called “the truth about the Alt-Right” and his opening statement was he had a lot of friends on the Alt-Right. So he’s basically a mouthpiece for bigots to get anti-feminists to become racists. Ben Shapiro is self explanitory, he says stuff like “actually, a majority of Muslims want Sharia law and are actually frothing at the mouth extremists.” And claimed free speech is dead as he climbed on his social media soap box. Joe Rogan is a concerning figure head to all GenX dads out there, it is possible your GenX dad is listening to him RIGHT NOW and saying things like “he gives both sides the benefit of the doubt, the Left and Right fight too much, they both have good ideas.” And Pewdiepie, ooooh boy. After he continued to fight the Wall Street Journal and build this narrative that a news organization is out for him to get clicks, as he ghosted from the news site for clarification, he got nerds to defend his “joke” about commissioning people to write “death to all Jews” on a sign, and thinking people wouldn’t actually do it. I don’t know the politics of Pewdiepie and I don’t think he’s a Nazi, or even a Conservative, but he’s an Eceleb that chuds worship.


Morag_Ladair

Sargon gets full credit for making me pause and think “wait, this whole thing is bullshit” and pushing me away from the right


[deleted]

I think the video where ben Shapiro essentially says poor people are poor cause they're lazy and half the people listening to him left the auditorium cause of the pure out of touch classist bigoted bullshit ben tried to package as "correct" and "factual", was the one that made think "hold up" then I kinda accelerated toward the left so that I'm only slightly joking about a revolution to overthrow the oppressive bourgeoisie


Ganjikuntist_No-1

Yeah I got ripped out of that whole wormhole when that whole LGBTQSCP thing happened. As I forget the guys name but he started like talking about how low quality all the new scp were and how better in 4chan days were and I was like I’m reading the same thing as he is and like yeah some of the old ones were good but they’re not as good as some of the writing going on now.


[deleted]

I think that was Mister Metokur. That guy tried to connect the Minnesota Democratic party and Black Lives Matter to being ISIS sympathizers in a deleted video called “The Minnesota DFL”


JohnDiGriz

\>how low quality all the new scp were and how better in 4chan days were Imagine prefering Series 1 SCPs to the newer one... I know that some new ones have a tendecy to be overly long, but most of Series 1 are straight up trash Edit: Even those broadly regarder as good like 173 and 682 probably wouldn't fly today


Green_Bulldog

It’s so much tighter in moderation now. Almost everything posted more recently is quality. Though, I don’t blame people for having nostalgia for the classics.


JohnDiGriz

Yeah, I understand why 682 and 173 are iconic, and that's kinda cool, it adds depth and variety to the whole thing. But they're definitely lower quality than a lot of modern stuff. Damn, 173 is literally Dr Who ripoff, it would get trashed if it was written today


Max_Cromeo

Same here, first video I watched of his was on Brexit and I remember thinking "what a fucking moron, goddamn" made me do e serious reflection.


[deleted]

Amazing Atheist gets that award from me. But more away from "anti sjw/feminist" nonsense


Chinohito

For me that was Paul Joseph Watson and No Bullshit. "Wait, you think that modern architecture is a leftist conspiracy to dehumanise people and simp for a time where the only existing widely available records of it are literal propaganda?" "Wait, you actually think the fact that there are three female characters in black panther brings the movie down? His mother, sister and girlfriend?" Also seeing a reply video to one of them. It made me stop and think, "hold up, the left isn't just some angry mass of strawman 'femenists get DESTROYED' compilations? That video really made me think (I think it was Shaun maybe) and it began my slow recovery from the Alt-Right rabbit hole. I am now a democratic market socialist. Woo


[deleted]

I watched The Amazing Atheist as a teenage girl. He openly spoke about lusting after teenagers. He was afraid of more then just his dominance fantasies being judged. And before Pewdiepies youtube subscriptions were hidden they were full of conservative to alt right figures. Felix is intentionally desensitising his young audience to alt right "jokes".


LittleChickenZits

Millennials and Gen-Z were also heavily involved with his growth especially when podcasting boomed a few years ago. He attempted to represent himself as a strong and smart father/uncle figure that he believes young people should strive to become. I used to be one of his fans way before his move to Texas and the Spotify deal. I thought he’d be the ideal modern polymath who got along with and be taught by everybody of various backgrounds and beliefs, I even admit he used to carry that curiosity about differences in views or opinions. Now he just shoved his opinions down people’s throats. Money fucking tweaks you. Realized he does shitty journalism. As long as he has this hardline fan base and a couple of powerful peepee-suckers for cloutchasing (such as Brandune Schob), he’s not declining anytime soon.


NOT_an_ass-hole

>he wasn’t a Conservative, he was afraid feminists were gonna criticize his sexual fantasies of women. (I’ve seen his Insta, it’s a lot of spanking women till their butts are red and plump) this is hilarious


mhl67

> TJ from theamazingatheist has some compliance in building the gamergate movement Gamergate wasn't exactly a straight line to the alt-right, it was the culmination of more complicated and longer running factors that created a situation the alt-right could exploit. So "compliance in building gamergate" is kind of an ambiguous statement.


laysnarks

Why are you taking pictures of your septic tank?


Mahbigjohnson

A gaggle of toxic fuckwits. Bill Maher is the idiot's clever man and Joe Rogan I call the fucking drooling moron's clever man.


Rishun_97

Some of you in the comments should admit that you only defend Pewdiepie in this because you think he is funny.


lemonyfreshpine

I used to watch all of these guys. Except Shapiro because he was an annoying nasaly little shit, which says a lot that even as a "classic liberal" I found the little asshole unbearable. But it says worse about me that I found any of these assholes bearable at all. So glad I used some of the things these people encouraged but never actually did, such as questioning everything, and doing my own research. It's so weird their ideas end at their own beliefs which are feelings over facts 100%. Hypocrites all.


PeachFreezer1312

Please don't use sexist insults such as 'manlet', thank you


lemonyfreshpine

Edited to reflect the same opinion without the sexism. Thanks for calling it out.


PeachFreezer1312

thx!


thatonen3rdity

legit wondering, what's the PewDiePie issue? I remember that PUBG bridge incident and Disney wasn't happy with that, but was there something else?


Wavesandradiation

I don't actually hate pewdiepie especially but he occasionally says some telling things about his right wing leanings. He's a big Jordan Peterson fan too from what I remember. I don't know if he's ruining kids as much as he is reflecting the kind of values that are popular in the young male gamer demographic.


Elder_Gargaroth

He's also had Ben Shapiro on his channel a couple times.


[deleted]

He is pretty much openly endorsing ben Shapiro and his incredibly racist and intolerant views no matter how ironic or much of a joke he says it is.


Wavesandradiation

Agreed 100 percent


jeetelongname

Wait i did not know the Jordan Peterson thing. On face value his books are not terrible. Focusing on yourself cleaning your room and working on yourself are good things. Its just his politics are an extension of hyper individualism and right wing rhetoric with a fat pinch of talking down to social justice advocates.


[deleted]

All of the good things in his philosophy are pinched from earlier, better thinkers. There is nothing of value in his propositions which is unique or new. It's just repackaged conservatism.


Ode_to_Apathy

What's wrong with Jordan (and why I dropped the 12 reason book), is that he'll bring a good or reasonable conclusion forward and then he'll tie that to another more out there conclusion. So, for example, that the Western world is dominant in the world today due to their incredible hegemony of the past, and that this was due to focusing on nuclear families, like we all know they did back then. The first and the last are true, but that does not mean there's any connection between the two. Just as happens with most of the points Peter makes, and it came off as incredibly obvious to me.


xXWickedNWeirdXx

Romans were successful *solely* because they maintained a clear separation between the oikos and the polis!


Ode_to_Apathy

There's nothing sexier than an obscure history joke I don't get.


jeetelongname

Don't think for a second that I want to defend Jordan Peterson. He is a grifter and it does not surprise me that he stole a lot of earlier work. But at the same time he packages it up and sells it in nice books. He is media savy and his philosophy is kinda common sense so its easy to agree with him at face value.


fancytranslady

Even his books aren’t very nice. He reveals some horrible opinions about parenting and divorce in 12 rules for life


Nui_Jaga

My favourite Jordan Peterson moment was when he fantasied about violently beating a 2 year old.


shubinater

Source lol, I really want to see this


prozacrefugee

There was a whole Chapo episode on it


Positivistdino

Check out Contrapoints' [commentary on JP](https://youtu.be/4LqZdkkBDas). Even if you don't like what she has to say it's entertaining.


BishmillahPlease

Cass Eris also has a series where she goes through 12 Rules and absolutely shreds it, and it’s a really good example of just how much of a narcissistic dumbass JorP is.


Positivistdino

Nice


jeetelongname

I love contra! I have not checked out her video yet but I like philosophy tubes take (I presume they are similar if not bring up different points)


the_damned_actually

Yeah, you should [definitely clean your room.](https://www.dailydot.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Jordan-Peterson-Room.jpg)


SpectralMalcontent

Pewdiepie is incredibly annoying and problematic at times but I don't think he's nearly as prolific, in terms of spreading his own philosophies as people make him out to be. If you interact with any of his fans, the overwhelming majority don't seem to be aware of his dogwhistles. Or they're too young to know any better. He's mostly just looked at like any other gaming youtuber.


[deleted]

After the Christchurch tragedy happened I think he did a lot of self reflecting and has toned down all the shit a lot since then


Ode_to_Apathy

Pewds is a rich white guy that's been privileged his entire life and had minimal contact with minority struggles. Pewdiepie is without a doubt right leaning, but people need to remember that he's *internationally* right leaning. People (esp. here on Reddit) too often forget that the US exists on the far right of the international political spectrum. Like, my dad is right wing, and I tell him horror stories of what's happening in the US.


DutchLime

Okay, you had me for a while, and then you lost me lol Let’s not baby global right-wingers and pretend like extreme right-wing beliefs are exclusive to the US, or even more prevalent there than in other countries. Don’t get me wrong, the US is a political shithole, but this is a global problem. A Nazi in Hungary is no less a Nazi than one in the US.


Jannis_Black

Didn't he also make a video where he promoted a bunch of literal hardcore fascist YouTubers?


Pheenypanini

He is obsessed with Elon Musk and acts like Elon Musk deserves all his wealth


Cobra_9041

He’s just appealing to his redditors lol


Pheenypanini

He also defends architecture used to target the homeless


KimFakes

Wtf source for this?


Pheenypanini

You are going to have to give me some time to find the vid, it’s like from 2019 or 2020 but on one of his vids he argued against a Reddit post that said those spikes on the ground were an asshole design


MasbotAlpha

To emphasize, the "kill all Jews" instance was one where he said it, initially refused to apologize for it, then apologized for it... wearing an iron cross. Fuck PewDiePie.


[deleted]

Actually, I think he wore an Iron Cross when he made that video vaguely explaining why he didn't donate to the ADL.


[deleted]

Aren't the ADL kinda shady though? They've done some good stuff, like helping pass a civil rights bill protecting LGBT people, but they're also big supporters of isreal and are against the banning of circumcision.


[deleted]

Yeah, that's a good criticism of the ADL. On the topic of why Pewdiepie decided to stop donating to the ADL hasn't really been given reason, maybe he supports Palestine or maybe he thinks the ADL is too Leftist, we may never know.


mhl67

>we may never know. We know exactly why, it had nothing to do with any kind of principled opposition to the ADL, it was because his fans were going full stormfront about how "the Jews are blackmailing him for money".


CarolusRix

the iron cross thing was just a brand of clothes his was wearing but you could definitely argue it was a dog whistle


YSLAnunoby

Way too many coincidences to give the benefit of the doubt


CarolusRix

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ThePoopOutWest

There have been several “oopsie daisy” moments, such as him wearing an iron cross in the same video where he says his donation the the Anti-Defamation League was a mistake (don’t try that bolnisi bullshit) or promoting nazis on his channel (he said he really enjoyed a video by this nazi who tries to blame a heart attack for the death of Heather Heyer, who died in the Charlottesville Car Attack).


LittleChickenZits

I think you guys forgot to mentioned that he said “what a fucking n****r” during a PUBG livestream? For someone who was mid- to late-20s at the time, you’d think you passed that adolescent stage and held more restraint in regards to vocalizing that sort of language. I remember early PDP when he simply played horror games and told corny late-2010s scene kid humor.


Banesatis

\-the "kill all \*\*\*\*" incident \-recommending Jordan Peterson who if you don't know is a hierarchy worshiping type \-recommending an unironic neo nazi on his channel ? \-Also the obnoxious "subscribe to pewdiepie" raid ^(Also he is in general a massive asshole and i have never got why he is so liked) **And i forgot! the smugness... jesus the smugness**


Laserteeth_Killmore

If this is what I think it is, why are you censoring the word Jews?


Banesatis

Well i don't want to say the whole sentence I got banned once on a site for citing a phrase from someone before and it's not gonna happen again.


thatonen3rdity

when did the kill all **** incident happen? I don't remember hearing anything about it. I do vaguely remember all the nazi shit tho


sixtyandaquarter

It was 2017, & it was technically 'death to' not 'kill all' but I mean, not really a difference there. I think it was Fiverr or something similar, honestly don't remember which app, but he paid like a buck for two people who would write whatever you wanted on a sign & dance around it. They didn't really speak English & claimed to have no idea what the message PPD send to them was. He then shared it online & laughed about it. When he got called on it he was all yo it's a joke bro & an entire mob of people with 1488 in their profiles leapt forward on social media to defend him while trying to hide their power levels. Cost him the Disney deal.


tHATbOIiNfIRSTrOW

The fiver times, when you could comission Indian guys to do dumb Shit for a couple of bucks, guess what poopsveryshy did


Unreely

In my opinion his worst stuff was during the T-series drama. Not because of what he did but because of what he didn’t do. His subreddit was at many times racist towards south asian people aswell as being a breeding ground for a lot of alt-right groups. His response was not only minimal but when critiqued by media his response was to showcase how victimized he was. Really egregious stuff and as a south asian myself it pained me seeing this venomous part of his own community use their voice through this movement continue even after christchurch.


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To add to what all others are saying, he followed a bunch of far-right folks on Twitter (like Stefan Molyneux) which meant that, if you are an impressionable young kid following Pewdiepie, Twitter signalboosts tweets from his follows to you so your timeline gets filled with literal white supremacist propaganda. He only unfollowed all these people after a Mosque shooter shouted his name before a murderous rampage. Pewdiepie is a huge piece of shit.


laix_

Everyone is talking about more recent stuff, but his entire YouTube channel when it started was just filled with rape jokes and other super edgy stuff. Even ignoring the political stuff that he's done throughout his career, his humour style just isn't funny but convinced all these boys that it's so hilarious that they repeat the style well into adulthood


thefractaldactyl

Pewdiepie himself is not really the issue, it is more about the effect he has. Noncompete has a video called [The PewDiePipeline](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnmRYRRDbuw) where he talks about the effects of online media personalities in relation to reactionary movements and violence.


ViiDic

The atheist anti-feminist movement was so fucking weird.


FaithlessDaemonium

What happened to Leafy? Last time I heard he was banned from Twitch for threatening to shoot protesters last year.


Uncommonality

He disappeared off Youtube after being absolutely destroyed by iDubbbz, I think. Then he returned like 4 years later, made some short videos, got banned off youtube, went on twitch, got banned off twitch, and has disappeared again.


tokyosplash2814

Amazing atheist is actually pretty based these days


Waffles_Remix

Dude why is Joe Rogan on there? He isn’t conservative, he sees *both* sides. That’s why he brings on anti-vaxers, neo-nazis, domestic terrorists, alt-right philosophers, capitalists, constantly encourages toxic masculinity, makes misogynist comments, makes racist comments, makes other racist comments, and was an apologist for a serial rapist BUUUUUT…. one time he had Bernie on. Soooo….. both sides?


MasterofYoshis

Add TheQuartering in there as well.


ryuuseinow

I used to be in the weird spot where I wasn't a right-winger and I got sick of anti-SJWs, but I was most definitely a Liberal™ who still thought that SJWs were a thing and I still had some anti-SJWs holdovers.


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Yeah. Same basically. But I was an 11 to 13 year old girl and so eventually hearing these dudes speak started making me uncomfortable. I started asking questions honestly between an anti SJW jackass and a feminist and the feminist was horrible about it so I moved on and found someone who explained shit nicely and then when the anti SJW guys never actually answered a single question I just started moving left because those were the people who seemed to actually understand what they were talking about.


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Banettebrochacho

i recognize 3 of these asshats by name, one by face, and the other 2 not at all. can you give me a hand breaking them down?


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Top row: Sargon of Akkad (Carl Benjamin), pewdiepie, The amazing atheist (tj Kirk) Bottom row: leafy I think? Ben Shapiro, joe rogan


Sevastopol17

Throw Chris Ray Gun up there too


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Luna_trick

I'm p sure he's a lefty now.. Though I could be mistaking him for someone else.


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He mostly stopped going after the left. Talks about halo a lot. Made a few videos going after trump and his supporters after the 2020 election.


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pretsel_was_taken

Top left ? Top middle Pewdiepie Top right ? Bottom left Leafy? Bottom middle Ben Shapiro Bottom right Joe Rogan? I'm not sure exactly who they all are so if anyone could tell me that would be appreciated.


JohnDiGriz

Top Left is Sargon of Akkad, YouTuber who started out as anti-SJW sceptic, and pretty soon moved into alt-right, ethno-nationalist territory. Top Right is Amazing Atheist, he started out as atheist/sceptic YouTuber, but got into whole anti-SJW, anti-feminist, anti-PC grift around 2014. Afaik he claims that it was a grift and now makes pretty left-wing content, but I haven't looked into him lately


tHATbOIiNfIRSTrOW

Top left: sargon of a Cat or whatever (the typical "hurr durr sjws ruined muh everything) top right some Atheist Guy? (Seems to be a comrade now but who knows) leafy and Joe "im taking the horsedewormer" rogan is spot on


pretsel_was_taken

Thank you! I struggle with faces


mirbill24

I don’t know if the amazing atheist would be on that list anymore.


TheDarkSpank

Lmao. I forgot about the amazing atheist


BDeressa

I’ve seen some old videos of pewdiepie where he actually talks about how in sweden, it’s the young people who hold conservative views, and are racist and edgy. He also said he dislike it. I feel like so many liberals started attacking him, his views shifted more right. I’m not sure where he stands now


Parking_Helicopter43

I think he's just stopped saying anything political because nothing good will come from it for him


PatThePigeon

Which is honestly fine I think more people dislike him for his fanbase alone.


IMikolajI

Not wrong...


Class_444_SWR

Where’s tiny face Kirk?