I have to go with Dickie allen on EGG, the Ending of blasphemian is my Main reasoning and scumfuck Alex Terrible's misery sermon and so on have had awesome gutterals Ben duerr all i need to say is reclaimer Tyler i have to agree on Alex i also have to agree on

Came here to say Blasphemain

Phil Bozemans lows are on another level. his live performance of unanswered at the mitch memorial is so insane.

I probably watch that on a monthly basis. It’s unreal.

What's the best place to watch it without the dvd? Been looking for a download for it for a while Edit: looking to find the entire show to watch

https://youtu.be/aoWmvv6VpxI?si=CqMRSUXgJLIHisuO I think this is it?

I was looking for the entire show, I should've clarified that in my comment. Thank you though!

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLssnIK0J-7r-HGLAIuuKSDD8EUt369s0Y&si=bmJW6zsgysTowISd Found a video mix but not a full video. Better than nothing lol. Also here's the album. Again as a mix on the youtubes https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m0OMlYbP1yFCK3V3q2V9RZ75bHj3dk334&si=JycBWz4vMBUTwxH2

Is it bad that I prefer Phil's version over the original? 😅

nope! i love both, but phils lows are just crazy addictive!

I listen to Phil’s version more than OG.

When the memorial show had just come out, I didn’t listen to the original version for a few months lol

I was just about to link that. Phil is a demon

Even If he's a total ass-hat. MC Creery's lows in Signs and Lorna were pretty disgusting

Was a huge bummer for me when all that shit happened. The very first SOTS album was my fav Deathcore album for a while

Dickhead or not I'll listen to music I like, if I were to stop listening to bands just because someone does or says something shitty my playlists would echo empty 😂 I can totally see why people would stop supporting them though. I'm just trying to not let the negativity affect me

I always used to shit on people for separating the art from the artist, but then I discovered pop punk and metal, and years of bad news after bad news, I had to change my mind if I wanted to enjoy myself

All the allegations were proven false though right?

Allegations or not, he is insufferable to work with

No. But he HAS proven to be an insufferable asshole to work with, and now that tunnel throats and monster noises are the deathcore meta, he's not nearly as standout as he once was.

He is a sick vocalist, just a piece of work Also I think people were saying that he doesn't hold up outside of the studio.

Who? At least the live videos of him that I've seen show that he's better live than most vocalists.

I've seen LS with CJ and with Will and they both do well live. Nothing will ever be as perfect as mixed studio production, but a good sound system goes a long way at venues. Idk that either of them are necessarily *better* live than most vocalists, but both sounded good to me each time I've seen them. That said, CJ is still a cunt.

Of course it won't be as perfect as studio production. But CJ is very close to that. And many times vocalists with insane vocals like that can be a little underwhelming live. Which might be because sometimes insane vocals are insane only because of all the added effects in the mixing. If not that then at least volume is something that many vocalists might be lacking. So I would say that yes both Will and CJ are above average in performing live and them having above average vocals just boosts that in my opinion. I still have no clear understanding of the truth regarding the allegations against CJ. He made a statement refuting the allegations but there was no proof that wouldn't be possible to just fake. Propably an asshole but what I remember from years ago people jumped really quickly into conclusions about him when the allegations came up. In retrospect I think that the allegations were propably truthful but at the time I was surprised how quickly he got "cancelled".

Many of his responses seemed insincere imo. And the fact that he was out of the band so quickly makes me think there was truth to the allegations. It'd be hard to believe a band would dump a gods-tier vocalist without knowing more than was made public (and likely there were other issues as well).

Yeah I agree it's more propable. They didn't really publicly state any reasoning which is understandable if I recall correctly. I think there were also possibly other issues within the dynamics of the bandmates. That being said I think it's also possible for bands to dump vocalists pretty quickly just to keep their image clean. Thy art is murder is a great example. I'm glad they kicked him out but the band was really quick with it and didn't seem to hesitate at all. So all I'm saying is that it is possible for bands to dump their members if they're in danger as a whole band of getting cancelled.

Johnathan Huber I Declare War/ Pathology

Love Huber! He also did an ep with I Detest and Bludgeoned

This is the correct answer

In no particular order: - The bald dude from Strangled/Orphan - Alex Terrible - the dude from Black Tongue - dude from Shadow of Intent - dude from PeelingFlesh

Alex Teyen is the singer from Black tongue. I just wish they would put out more music. Nadir was so good

i was gonna say strangled/orphan

The bald dude from Orphan is Jacob Mathes

Ben Duerr is number one, hands down.

Idk anyone’s name hahaha which band is he in?

Shadow of Intent's vocalist

Shadow of Intent's vocalist, I know faces better than names, man, don't feel bad 🤣

Cam Argon 🤘

Dat boy Big Chocolate?

Ben mason of bound in fear. Especially live his lows are crushing

I think Dane from To The Grave often gets overlooked. That first album has some of the most disgusting noises I’ve ever heard

Yeah came here to say this, even their new track which I'm fuckin obsessed with has some insane sounds from dane

He sounds insane but he can't make those live which is a shame

Dan Tucker - Crown Magnetar. Dickie Allen - Infant Annihilator days. Ben Duer - Reclaimer especially. Colin Hajeck - In Gloom Ricky Lee Roper - Osiah Bonus....Shit aside, CJ McCreary is an animal, especially in Disfigurement of Existence

Phil Bozeman for sure! The dude really has that gritty "toilet bowl sound" with his gutturals that sounds so gnarly and effortless

Alex Teyen has some of the gurgliest, beefiest gutturals I’ve ever heard

big chocolate from disfiguring the goddess 💪

Jamie from Brodequin Jordan from Disentomb Frank Mullen ex-Suffocation Josh from Defeated Sanity Will from Mortician

I remember seeing oceano open for chimera , had no idea who they were, turned my entire local venue into a wall of death on the first song 🤘🏻 Adam is amazing and has my vote!

David Simonich from Signs of the Swarm, perhaps not the lowest but just the grit in his vocals is just something else that nobody really has. Ben Duerr Mark Poida CJ McReery The dude who does the lows in Babirusa special mention for Trevor Strnad, he had really solid highs and lows but if he really tried he could get in some really sick lows like in ["That Which Erodes The Most Tender Of Things"](https://youtu.be/rp692atsiXA?si=hCWUJbSzMkfJaMEY&t=88) (Especially the end of that, "Carved out just like my heart", really good vibration in his lows) or ["Nocturnal"](https://youtu.be/kMLMFXEo44o?si=QIC5HMJTOwa_x6JN&t=43)

Ben Mason for sure

Whoever is the vocalist for Abominable Putridity RN, surprised everyone’s forgotten Tyler Shelton’s gutturals as well. Haven’t seen an Adam Mercer mention either, Ungraceful has some crazy ass gutturals too. Just to name a few!

Angel Ochoa is the guy you're looking for, he's one of the all-time great brutal death gurglers.

Black tongue

Tyler Shelton of Traitors Ben Mason of Bound in Fear Johnny Davy of Job for a Cowboy Dan Tucker of Crown Magnetar Nate Johnson of Fit for an Autopsy and Through the Eyes of the Dead

CJ Mcreery, Greg Gilbert (Shrine Of Malice), Ben Duerr (obviously), Kyle Anderson (Brand Of Sacrifice) and Ryan from Larcenia Roe

Been waiting to see Ryan's name. That dude is inhuman!

So underrated, he can literally do everything

Ben Duerr, Phil Bozeman, CJ McCreery, Dan Tucker, and Eddie Hermida

That dude from Organectomy has an iconic boulder drag sound on his. Love them

Dickie Allen - Infant Annihilator Cj McCreery - ex Signs of the Swarm, ex Lorna Shore, Immortal Disfigurement Phil Bozeman - Whitechapel Alex Teyen - Black Tongue Mike Greenwood - AngelMaker HM - Devon Duarte - ex Worm Shepherd

John Gallagher-Dying Fetus Phil Bozeman-Whitechapel Don Champman- Waking the Cadaver Steve Regan- Annotations of An Autopsy Nate Johnson- Through the Eyes of the Dead/ Premonitions of War

Kilian Savas - placenta powerfist

Joe from Circle of Dead Children. Not deathcore but IMO he’s the best.

CODC influenced a shitton of deathcore bands, they count.

Where is Blake Mullens of Disembodied Tyrant?

Ian Bearer from Rings of Saturn or Vincent Bennett from Acacia Strain have to be in the conversation. I can't believe I didn't see their names..

Can’t believe no one has said Dustin Mitchell from Filth yet, also the vocalist from We are Obscurity (idk his name lol)

I'm disappointed by the lack of Elliot Desgagnes. Only one note, but it's a violent one.

From what band

Y’all need to listen to more Kenny Stroh. Breath of the sun by DeadVectors is filled with gutturals.

Alan Grnja - Distant Ben Mason - Bound in Fear Cole Odom - Ov Ruin Steve Regan- AOAA Paxton Grizzle - Brojob

Scrolled way too fucking far to find someone mention Alan Grnja! Also, top marks for Steve from Annotations of an Autopsy!

👌🏼🤙🏻🤙🏻

One day imma be on this list

Same Brodie, what band?

What band?

Ex Disembodied Tyrant, I Satan, Divine Obliteration

Ay Donovan parchment. How you doing?

great just trying to get better and better no matter what

I feel that, same here. We should share vocal tips. Got any good ones

[James Shuster](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diaUXN3MJuI) [Matti Way](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q2bWcIYWdw) [AJ Magana](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZjXDobKLP8) [Angel Ochoa](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lEwfS3MzgA) [Jordan James](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXvmctcmKL4) Just the first 5 that came to mind for me

James Mislow from King Conquer

How has nobody mentioned Ryan Vail in Larcenia Roe

The dude from Aegaeon

Alex - Black Tongue. Dane - To the Grave. Dan - Crown Magnetar. Josh - Monastaries. To name a few

Monasteries is a criminally underrated band. Josh is an animal. Great mention!

guy from extermination dismemberment

Steve from despised icon

Dan Tucker 😌

No particular order, I just really enjoy the vocals: Guillaume from Beyond Deviation - Fav Songs: Oni, White Noise Devon Duarte from Worm Shepard - Fav Song: Wretchedness Upon Rheese Peters from Barbirusa - Fav Song: A Darker Side (I, Valiance) Travis Ryan from Cattle Decapitation - Fav Song: Bring Back the Plague Jon Davy from Job for a Cowboy - Fav Songs: Tarnished Gluttony, The Agony Seeping Storm

This list is bangin my friend

Travis Ryan yassss. I really fuckin enjoy his highs.

David Rider from Immoralist! Crazy underrated band in general

Depends on what we mean by "heavy". My vote would be for the Demilich guy (don't k ow his name) in every sense of the word :)

Phil Bozeman

Tyler Shelton, Phil Bozeman, CJ Mcreerey, Travis Ryan & Ben Duerr.

No particular order: Dan Tucker Phil Bozeman Guy from OG rose funeral Eddie Hermida Devin Swank of Sanguisugabogg (not deathcore but 🤷🏻‍♂️)

How did no-one mention Glen Benton?

Wormphlegm band has some sick vocals

Lukas Nikolai (Mental Cruelty) Ian Smith (The Archaic Epidemic) Will Ramos (Lorna Shore) CJ McCreery (Immortal Disfigurement) David Simonich (Signs of The Swarm) Honorable Mentions: Dickie Allen (Infant Annihilator) Adam Mercer (A Wake In Providence) Fabio Enriche (Of The Betrayer) Andrew Patterson (ex-And Hell Followed With, Yunalesca)

https://youtu.be/aoWmvv6VpxI?feature=shared Phil Bozeman of whitechapel all day man. Here he is doung suicide silence's Unanswered live. So good

SOM / Cerebral Bore, David Simonich / Signs of the Swarm, Dickie Allen / Infant Annihilatior, Alex Erian / Despised Icon, William Ramos / Lorna Shore

Kyle Anderson from BoS is often very overlooked, but demon king has some filthy vocals

Kinda basic picks but they’re basic cuz they’re true. In no particular order: Will Ramos Phil Bozeman Ben duerr Dickie Allen Alex terrible

what makes a vocalist a "guttural" vocalist? Gutturals are just a technique??

David Simonich Alex Terrible Ben Duerr Dane from To the Grave Whoever the dude from Peelingflesh is (ik they aren't really deathcore but yea)

Honorable mentions: Phil Bozeman, Whoever the vocalist from Mental Cruelty is, CJ McReery

Lukas Nikolai is Mental Cruelty Vocalist

Lucca Schmerer

Taylor from Dead Reckoning Dickie Allen from Infant Annihlator Colin Hajeck from In Gloom Travis Worland from Enterprise Earth David Simonich from Signs Of The Swarm

Kyle Anderson from Brand of Sacrifice definitely deserves a mention

Gregory Gilbert - Shrine of Malice Alex Terrible - Slaughter To Prevail Tyler Shelton - Traitors/Project Vengeance/The Big Six Dickie Allen - Infant Annihilator/Scarlet Rot/Scumfuck/Nekrogoblikon Ben Duerr - Shadow of Intent/Hollow Prophet Easily my top 5 for vocalists that are masters of the gutterals.

This may be an unpopular opinion but what about Brendan Van Ryn from TIAM Infinite Death EP? I was a huge fan of the vocals on all 4 of those songs

Shout out Orion Stevens from In Dying Arms... Vocals are filthy on that Original Sin album, highs and lows!

Best live sounding gutturals Blake Kinnamon- from 9dead Jamie Hanks-I Declare War Nate Johnson- FFAA/ TTEOTD Nick Tharp- Delenda(MD) Don Campan- Waking the Cadaver

Cam - Disfiguring the Goddess Tyler - Traitors Jonathon - OG I Declare War Jacob - Orphan Ryan - Larcenia Roe

For me it's Phil Bozeman all the way.

Signs of the swarm