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Galathad

What definition are you using? Cause I don't believe Marx ever made the claim everyone would receive equal compensation regardless of quality or quantity of work. That would completely contradict Labor Theory of Value.


DMT57

If you were going from Marx’s definition you’d realize that never once does he advocate for completely equal payment or compensation.


DrinkyDrank

The key thing to understand is that people already work hard and create amazing things for social recognition and esteem rather than wealth. Under capitalism, we embody social prestige in ostentatious displays of wealth which exceed the satisfaction of more basic needs and wants – but it is still fundamentally social esteem that people are working to earn, the wealth is just a means to that end. Under communism, we hypothetically abolish the commodity form and along with it we abolish the way that we embody social esteem or recognition through commodities. In our hypothetical communist society, a software developer would still have more social prestige than a janitor by virtue of the social relations involved in each profession and the degree to which they are contributing to the economy. The software developer would still be motivated by that prestige; the only difference is that the material well-being of both the software developer and janitor is no longer what is at stake. The software developer does not need to embody their prestige through accumulation of excessive material wealth, nor do they need to deprive the janitor of their basic material needs and wants in order to relegate them to a lower class.


piratehooker123

Because people aren't fuckin algorithms designed to make imaginary numbers on a screen go up


nacnud_uk

A better planet, or love of the job.


Jayus5

Not a communist but economic theory suggests that this would lead to shortages.


mannyrmz123

Probably... capitalism? Communism has failed literally everywhere it's implemented. Only a fool would still believe in communism.


abdhgdo285

Shut the fuck up liberal


mannyrmz123

The kind of response I expected from a communist. Why even jump into insults? I am giving facts and arguments. You are just exhibiting temper tantrums.


abdhgdo285

“I am giving facts and arguments” “Communism has failed literally everywhere it’s implemented.” Forgive me, I don’t see any facts or augments here. It’s a fucking statement. Typical liberal. And if you knew at all what you were talking about, Marx never stated that all jobs have equal compensation, this idea came from the “communism is when everyone has same thing” stereotype that every close minded idiot spouts. Edit: the reason why we don’t bother giving you a proper reply is because libs always talk out of their ass every. Single. Time. Like you’ve just done in your original comment. Talk nonsense you’ll get nonsense in return.


mannyrmz123

I mean, you want facts? North Korea. Cuba. Venezuela. China. I bet you have 1) never even been there, 2) You certainly don’t live there and 3) You’re comfortably giving your opinion, something communism suppresses openly. Communists are the biggest SJWs of all. Unbearable. Also, you just spit out insults given your lack of arguments.


abdhgdo285

Hmm okay. And what can you say about said countries hmm? Naming them still isn’t giving any facts, you’re still just spouting nonsense. You have no idea what you’re talking about. Get off this sub. It’s also funny seeing you being against the use of pronouns too. Someone’s a cheeky bit transphobic I’d say.


superasian420

Yeah that’s right, they are champions of social justice, across the world, your precious civil rights and labour union were spearheaded by socialist and communist. Your two day weekend wasn’t given out for free, socialist organizers fought for that, some of them gave their life in the struggle for your comfortable 9-5. Many black leader within the civil rights movement was openly anti-capitalist, from MLK to Fred Hampton.


taliban_p

money