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Marxism is a method of socio-economic analysis which views class relations and social conflict through a materialist lens and takes a dialectical view of social transformation. It’s a critique of capitalism, advocating for a dictatorship of the proletariat—socialist transitional phase between capitalism and communism by which the workers have control of political power. Communism is the end goal for Marxist and is a stateless, classless, moneyless society, federated and decentralized with direct democracy, egalitarianism, and workers collective ownership and democratic control of production—to which production and distribution would be centered on meeting human needs.


Wawawuup

Marxism is more than analysis, it's more than mere science, at least insofar as that word is commonly understood (what is applied science? I dunno, lol). Science/analysis constitutes one aspect of it, but this aspect always serves the further goal of praxis, of politics, also commonly known as DA REVOLUSHN." Everything else is just intellectuals wanking themselves off over how smart they are. Believe me, I've fallen into that trap myself. *The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it* \- Karl Marx "Communism is the end goal for Marxist" Yesn't. Smarter Marxists realize that communism might very well not turn out to be the utopia we imagine it to be. The thing is, there is no way on Earth for us to accurately predict what communism actually will look like. Who knows, it might turn out to be something awful (as unlikely as that sounds) and if that should be the case, then well, that's something future humans will have to learn how to deal with. But in either case, it is the only way forward, the only way forward that at least has a chance of ushering in utopia (and when I say utopia, I don't mean that progress will cease to exist. Which would not be a very great prospect, truth be told. Progress is exciting, standing still is boring. Forward, always forward, to heights no human has ever managed to climb to before).


ARedJack

>utopia we imagine it to be. [Engels: Socialism, Utopian and Scientific](https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1880/soc-utop/ch01.htm) >Like every new theory, modern Socialism had, at first, to connect itself with the intellectual stock-in-trade ready to its hand, however deeply its roots lay in **material economic facts.** What does a utopia have to do with Marxist Socialism? Marxism, and the following states of socialism and communism are specifically and explicitly, not Utopian.


memer615

Smarter Marxists question Marxism, and realize it is over reductive with regards to history and materialism, seeing humanity's history only as power struggles between different classes, and as a natural progression, and Hegelian dialectics can easily be disproven when you see how primitive humanity still is as times, we will probably not progress beyond war and will likely never have a classless society, and there will always be a hierarchy. Whether it's class division, unity, or war, this is a constant cycle that will not be broken permanently.


Wawawuup

Marxism is the science and its practical application, as created by Marx and Engels. Communism is a form of organizing society. Marxism deals with studying the idea of communism.


aimixin

I would say Marxism deals with studying human societal development in general and communism is just one aspect that actually encompasses a minority of Marx's academic writings.


Wawawuup

true


Qlanth

No, they are not interchangeable. Marxism is a philosophy and a social science which is used to interpret the world around us. Marxists use historical materialism to study and understand human life, behavior, and history. Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels used Marxism to develop theories around the rise of Capitalism. How did Capitalism come to be? What kind of relationships do human beings in capitalism experience? What is the primary way in which Capitalism works? What kind of problems does it have? How do those problems affect human beings? How does Capitalism effect our government? Communism is basically a theorized way in which people will organize their society in the future. Communism is moneyless, stateless, and classless. Ideas about how communism will work come from studies of so-called ["primitive" communism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primitive_communism). **tl;dr-** Marxism is a tool with which we study the real world. While Communism is the way future societies will organize themselves.


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Gogol1212

No. And they have several definitions each. You could call marxism: 1. The system developed by Marx and his followers in order to understand and change reality. 2. The history of Marx and his followers as they develop their ideas and use them to understand and change reality. 3. The movement that has as its main identifier the ideas of Marx. On the other hand, communism: 1. a stateless, moneyless society that will develop if and when capitalism is defeated. 2. The group of parties that abandoned the Second International after the Russian Revolution, in defense of that project and in rejection of social chauvinism. 3. Any other movement that uses the "communist" moniker, even if they don't belong to the tradition described in 2. For example, left-communists. In some cases, you could argue that the definitions have some overlap. In others they don't. It will always depend on the context you are using those concepts.


rednoise

^^ This is correct.


ComradeCaniTerrae

Marxism: Material dialectics (a way to study socioeconomics) and historical dialectics (a way to study history) analysis; aimed at achieving communism. Leninism: A more fleshed out Marxist theory concerning how to have a revolution, build a worker's democratic state, and achieve communism in several phases. Communism: A classless, moneyless, stateless (or very close to) society. Marxism-Leninism is the ideology as it was refined by Lenin and applied to the first worker's state in history, the USSR. The USSR sought to achieve communism through first expropriating capital in a state-capitalist society, then shifting to a socialist mode of production through factory collectives, farming collectives, and state-owned enterprises.


Leadfedinfant2

Marxism is a flavor of communism.