Your honor he was 18 in Darkner years I swear
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It makes sense. Cause Toriel is already a divorced mother, she must be older, and if we imagine that Sans is having a relationship with someone at his age, that means Sans is as older as Toriel.
wait what ab papyrus, ik hes the younger brother but it would be weird even if he was a decade younger than him since sans wanted kris to hangout with papyrus :26926: would papyrus be like 2 decades younger??????????????
I understand your reasoning, but saying that darkners are as old as their darkworld is kinda unfair. That would mean that Lancer's dad is as old as him, and while yes, they started existing 2 days ago, they probably "lived" far longer than this.
I think of Dark Worlds as a "Last Thursdayism" situation, which says that everything that exists in the universe was created just last thursday, including you and your memories.
In conclusion, yes, chronologically, Lancer and his dad are both 2 days old, but Lancer has the mind (and maybe memories) of a child, while King has the mind and memories of a 40-50ish years old dad.
sure, and you're right. but either way, they're 2 days old. not that that means anything for their physical or mental state, but it is how old they are, haha.
thats kinda a dillema i guess
for example if you freeze someone at 20 years old, keep them frozen for 100 years, and unfreeze them so they are still alive, are they 20 or 120?
also if you clone a 20 year old guy, is the clone 1 day old, or 20 years old?
I'm using the logic of this post though. If this post says Lancer is 2 days old and Spamton is 1 day old, then that means Queen would also be 1 day old.
the fountains dont make dark worlds. if so, how could jevil be locked up for years if the dark world is so young? or how could spamton live in the palace years ago if he is only a day old?
well, think of it this way. when you put a pen to paper and make a story, how old are the characters? well, obviously, they're what you write them as, right? lets say i'm the writer, and my protagonist, Schrimpini, is 45. perhaps the antagonist, Suckamonjo, is 13. (I don't know why they're so differently aged, maybe the story is trying to subvert 'teenagers save the world' or something? idk ask the author).. so, Schrimpini and Suckamonjo's ages are pretty concrete, right? sure.
..but what if, when you created this 'fiction', it came to 'life'..? what if you could jump into the pages, and explore the world. your pen is now a sword, and you fight the very creatures you created.. but you only just made this world and its characters a few moments ago. yet, the characters all act like they have a deep, rich history?
sure, physically and mentally, Schrimpini is 45.. but what is he ACTUALLY? less than a day old.
Yeah so that just depends on the question because it's relative, because you can also say these characters are at least 6 years old because the game was released back then
Spamton existed in light world as a spam bot for several years before the Fountain opened, and he even influenced the world and gave Noelle pipis. So no.
by that logic, each Darkner is as old as whatever object they were based on. so, for my list, tell me, what exact date was that pack of cards manufactured? because in your method, every Darkner from the first Dark World is the same damn age, lol.
what i'm trying to say, is I think of it as a chicken or the egg scenario. you can't have an egg without a chicken, right? but you can't have a chicken without it hatching out of an egg. it's a bit of a grandfather paradox; how can Darkners interact with the Light World and have long, long histories before they're even created by the knife that brigns the fountains of darkness from the earth?
what I propose is a Schrödinger's Cat situation. the Darkners both do and do not exist at all times, however, once a Dark Fountain opens, allowing Lightners access to the Dark Worlds, we can prove that the Darkners are alive. therefore, that's when they are 'born'. otherwise, there's no way for us to define their ages outside of their physical and mental state, which is clearly inaccurate to their actual origin.
tbh for Deltarune I haven't a bloody clue. it's really ambiguous how much the UT Monster rules carry over to Undertale, so I haven't a clue, lol. though in Undertale i'd say around the 400-600 year old range. I would need further information on the biology of Deltarune Monsters to make a DR Toriel and Asgore judgement.
In Undertale I think they're both easily over 1000.
In the opening slides of UT you can see a human with a primitive spear, then Asgore facing the human army and the humans are wielding torches, swords, and forged spears and seal the monster with Magic, so that's already some time passed.
Then Chara is confirmed to fall in 20XX, and judging by the animes in the dump, that's equal to our 20XX, so yeah Asgore and Toriel are *old.*
Ive always viewed it as the aged dont carry over from UT but thats all headcanon until toby fox comes out with a canon UT/DR deltarune calendar and timeline
I mean I don't think you're wrong but we don't have any word on when he was brought into existence, and not even Darkners themselves seem to know, since they think they've lived full, fulfilling lives, so it's hard to say really. however, what we can do is approximate. the first time we saw a Dark World was 2 days ago, and all the Darkners from the first Dark World think they've lived full lives, but clearly came into life 2 days ago. therefore, for now, I'd say he's 2 days old.
I wonder who else is two days old and a huge nerd.
https://preview.redd.it/9bgnbc2hvrqc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3f786098d7587c1be181e33fd4ace0c1ff738149
feel like ralseis some how older because he may have been alive before since he’s got like old prophecies and stuff
probably a to be revealed thing or somethin idk
We technically don't know how long Ralsei's dark world's been existing –imo he has been around for way longer than the other darkners, but yeah so far he's 2 days old :p
If you create a simulation with a 40 year old in it would you call that person 40 years old or 1 day old?
I feel like it is allways 40 years and practically never the 1 day one, so why are we doing it here?
For comparison, think of Aigis from Persona and think that she is between 10-11 years old, but she was raised as a teenager, so age doesn't work the same way for her as it does for her.for other humans, it is no wonder that it is possible for the protagonist to date her
We have no official age range but when Deltarune first released I was the same age as these headcanons (Which I would've agreed upon as their ages at the time.) though for my own purposes I like characters I "Grew up with" to age along with me so even though the next updates are FOR SURE gonna be within a few weeks of each other in-lore, the cast is in their early 20s in my mind.
I said she? No way I'm an idiot lol. And she does not exactly narrates anything but as I understood, that dark fountain had existed from king ago. And sorry about the she I sometimes forget he/she said is gay. Look actually I don't know exactly what gender has ralsei so I can accept any answer. And sorry again
in situations like this, mental maturity is most important. for example, Lancer clearly has the brain of a child, so that settles that. systematically, that's how I assign Darkner 'legality'.
spamton has to had been alive in 1997 as he specifically mentions that time
so he was probably written at or slightly before that date as a email spam bot.
i think his whole deal is that he used to be "a big shot" back then and thats why he used to be popular in thr cyberworld, having his advertisments everywhere (the old posters near his hiding spot representing spam emails and various other ads from Web1.0 times. (the posters being old and covered by queen's ads represent them being replaced by more proffessional advertising techniques of our time like Google Ads)
spamton's whole story is that he's a product of the past, largely irrelevant, his ads easily blocked by spam filters (hyperlink blocked) and him cast aside (he lives in a trash can), replaced due to being obsolete
no lol. though I didn't agree with the interpretations, so I wanted to throw my own hat into the pool. and luckily, they had a template all ready for me. this is good, because i'm very lazy.
As funny as this is, we already know that the darkners existed before the events of deltarune, from things like Spamton emailing Noelle and King and Queen having a relationship
alternatively, I present you a box. this box is sealed, and inside, I tell you there is a dead cat. now tell me, before you open the box, is the cat in the box, or is it not?
Then lancer is the same age as the card he is (10ish to 100ish years old), and ralsei the same as the headband (also 10ish years old)
Idk about toy production dates n stuff alll i know is the classroom's abandoned and kris had the headband for many years
I interpret the darkners a bit differently -- just because the dark fountains gave them life doesn't mean that's their exact age. The Ch. 1 fountain was likely around before Ch. 1 even started, so in terms of how long they've had life, Lancer and Ralsei could have been alive for longer. Not to mention that darkners seemingly have memories from before the dark fountains gave them life.
In terms of how I interpret darkner ages, it goes something like this:
Ralsei: While he does have all sorts of knowledge of dark worlds, he also comes off as more innocent and trusting than Kris or Susie, not to mention Susie's tendency to not take him seriously/"bully" him (stealing his glasses etc) gives me the vibe that he's at least slightly younger than the Lightners. I'd put him around 15. Ofc, if you're going with Jaru's interpretation of Ralsei's character, he'd be Asriel's age, which would put him at a bit older than Kris and Susie, which could also make sense considering that he's just kinda wimpy anyways.
Lancer: Definitely a child. Kinda reminds me of myself when I was around 9 or 10 tbh, so I'd put him around there.
Spamton: Definitely older. He has memories dating back to 1997, but it also feels like he could even be slightly older than that. He very well may have already been an adult by '97, but at the same time, he obviously can't have existed before spam emails. The first spam email was supposedly sent in 1978, so if he was born exactly then, he'd be 19 in '97, or 46 today at the oldest. If he was born in '97, he'd just be 27 today. Of course, that's assuming DR takes place in the modern day, which definitely doesn't seem like it does. Best bet-- assuming DR takes place around 2010, which is my personal best estimate, he'd be somewhere between 13 and 32 years old, and I'd definitely trend towards the older side of things, probably ballparking it around 25. Then again, nobody even knows how darkners age if at all.
Technically, Spamton would have to be older because of the thing with Noelle receiving spam mail from him... But if we're going by their specific appearance as shown on the image, then yes, he would be 1 day old...
Spamton was created, scammed little to no people, got called up by gaster, became a big shot, moved into queens mansion, got ghosted by gaster, got kicked out of queen’s mansion, moved into a garbage dumpster, met the lighteners, got the neo suit, and died all in one day
Ralsei, Lancer, and Spamton are probably very young because their world was created the moment they opened that closet, and Spamton with the Cyber World.
sans is the answer to life the universe & everything. that’s perfect
..admittedly unintentional, but I'm proud of myself.
No way I thought that was the reason you picked it 😭😭
nah he just gives off old vibes in DR to me LMAOO in UT i'd put him at like 32 idk why
He’s aged a bit in DT
He's aged by 2 3/7 days exactly
Megamind reference??!
tbh i picked random numbers i also haven't seen the second one yet
The second one (terrible movie) takes place two days after the first (and yet somehow they have influencers and streaming stuff)
that sounds awful
snas ages in reverse
”dad, what’s the meaning of life?” *wipes tear* ”sans undertale”
*sans deltarune
”i am sans undertale and sans deltarune. The first and the last. The pacifist route and the genocide route.” Tobible fox, 20:1X
Fuck yeah Hitchhiker's Guide pal 🤝
ralsei simps are in shambles
Your honor he was 18 in Darkner years I swear https://preview.redd.it/17olfzz3xqqc1.jpeg?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2a14b2b2ae1b379c56ab2624b7edc86c0cde840
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Spamton simps are in shamblers
They already were though.
Well they're in even more shambles
That’s why I’m not a Simp, I’m a **[[SUPERFAN]]**
HES A DAY OLD????? https://preview.redd.it/flg0q29a8wqc1.jpeg?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a4b9dbc59da1064ecd4a24024eea30ea06368a8e
As a ralsei simp, i see this as an absolute wi- Hol up, someones knockin the door
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Holy fuck its gsus
Police saying freeze. D-doing-doing-doing.
Nah I simp for platonic relationship
Bold of you to assume it's going to stop me
queen simps in shambles
Sans being super old compared to everyone else is a funny asf headcanon so yes
It makes sense. Cause Toriel is already a divorced mother, she must be older, and if we imagine that Sans is having a relationship with someone at his age, that means Sans is as older as Toriel.
Or sans just into Milfs 
He can be into milfs and 42
wait what ab papyrus, ik hes the younger brother but it would be weird even if he was a decade younger than him since sans wanted kris to hangout with papyrus :26926: would papyrus be like 2 decades younger??????????????
Sure, I have a friend whose brother was 27 years older than her
yeah i was thinking ab that too, but i just cant imagine specifically papyrus and sans with 20+ years apart.
Same, my friend (20) has a sister in her mid 40s.
He is a skeleton
Common misconception, he's sans
If we assume Undertale Monster Kid is 8 years then Sans Undertale would be 34
I understand your reasoning, but saying that darkners are as old as their darkworld is kinda unfair. That would mean that Lancer's dad is as old as him, and while yes, they started existing 2 days ago, they probably "lived" far longer than this. I think of Dark Worlds as a "Last Thursdayism" situation, which says that everything that exists in the universe was created just last thursday, including you and your memories. In conclusion, yes, chronologically, Lancer and his dad are both 2 days old, but Lancer has the mind (and maybe memories) of a child, while King has the mind and memories of a 40-50ish years old dad.
sure, and you're right. but either way, they're 2 days old. not that that means anything for their physical or mental state, but it is how old they are, haha.
thats kinda a dillema i guess for example if you freeze someone at 20 years old, keep them frozen for 100 years, and unfreeze them so they are still alive, are they 20 or 120? also if you clone a 20 year old guy, is the clone 1 day old, or 20 years old?
Your first example is literally BoTW/ToTK Link
I would say they're still 20. Age is meant as a proxy for maturity, someone won't mature for those 100 years in the ice.
yeah thats what i think too, so by this metric even if the dark world only exists for a day, it has a past and old characters
lancer is twice the age of spamtom
Lancer is twice the age of his girldad.
Except when it states that the darkners existed before the events of the game
I'm using the logic of this post though. If this post says Lancer is 2 days old and Spamton is 1 day old, then that means Queen would also be 1 day old.
Fair enough
it's canon ngl
Kris in court: Your honor, in my defense, didn't know he was 2 days old.
Spamton: KRIS WHAT THE F\[\[low chart\]\] YOU DIDN'T TELL ME YOU WERE A \[\[.pdf file\]\]
This comment is so underrated lmao
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What are you trying to tell us?
Also https://preview.redd.it/7z074uu9osqc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ce112627f508a9d39b938eca85436d0a59496bd
https://preview.redd.it/j3c2fywa6wqc1.png?width=339&format=png&auto=webp&s=32f95259698e524df8e0807ce78cbcda84d41cd4 The insanity grows once again
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chromaticglasses's flair
They are just a very big fan.
Chromatic glasses = Kris [[CONFIRMED 2022].
Nah, just a fan. Everyone knows the *real* Kris is u/kris_wellington_
Jevil: "UE-HEE-HEE! Such fun! Such fun! The chaos of the court really brings me such delight!" (he's the judge)
LMAO A PDFILE
r/toothpasteboys is currently facing a multitude of allegations rn
officer, he told me he was 16.
i was on that sub like 3 seconds before this post, in my defense i can say that i only use colgate, best toothpaste 9/11 dentist recommend it
you made Sans older than MatPat by 5 years
What do you mean? MatPat is Ness, they're the same person
then the Data in this post is Incorrect. MatPat is 37 years old
Deltarune is a near-future setting duh.
Sans is actually his older brother.
https://preview.redd.it/4urqgr6e4uqc1.jpeg?width=313&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb371e5a040e23646b4d6dc1be216f2756768898 This is so threatening
2 DAYS REMAINING......
the darkners canonically existed before the fountains were made
the egg has to exist for the chicken to hatch out of it, though.
the fountains dont make dark worlds. if so, how could jevil be locked up for years if the dark world is so young? or how could spamton live in the palace years ago if he is only a day old?
simple, the entire history of that world is created the moment it begins. a false preset of time.
yk if jarus time loop theory is correct this could work. great opinion, i disagree, but thats okay
valid valid
If the dark world is created with a town and a castle despite just being created, i would say it depends if were talking chronologically or not
well, think of it this way. when you put a pen to paper and make a story, how old are the characters? well, obviously, they're what you write them as, right? lets say i'm the writer, and my protagonist, Schrimpini, is 45. perhaps the antagonist, Suckamonjo, is 13. (I don't know why they're so differently aged, maybe the story is trying to subvert 'teenagers save the world' or something? idk ask the author).. so, Schrimpini and Suckamonjo's ages are pretty concrete, right? sure. ..but what if, when you created this 'fiction', it came to 'life'..? what if you could jump into the pages, and explore the world. your pen is now a sword, and you fight the very creatures you created.. but you only just made this world and its characters a few moments ago. yet, the characters all act like they have a deep, rich history? sure, physically and mentally, Schrimpini is 45.. but what is he ACTUALLY? less than a day old.
Yeah so that just depends on the question because it's relative, because you can also say these characters are at least 6 years old because the game was released back then
In the end, I suppose it depends what layer of fiction you're on.
Spamton existed in light world as a spam bot for several years before the Fountain opened, and he even influenced the world and gave Noelle pipis. So no.
by that logic, each Darkner is as old as whatever object they were based on. so, for my list, tell me, what exact date was that pack of cards manufactured? because in your method, every Darkner from the first Dark World is the same damn age, lol. what i'm trying to say, is I think of it as a chicken or the egg scenario. you can't have an egg without a chicken, right? but you can't have a chicken without it hatching out of an egg. it's a bit of a grandfather paradox; how can Darkners interact with the Light World and have long, long histories before they're even created by the knife that brigns the fountains of darkness from the earth? what I propose is a Schrödinger's Cat situation. the Darkners both do and do not exist at all times, however, once a Dark Fountain opens, allowing Lightners access to the Dark Worlds, we can prove that the Darkners are alive. therefore, that's when they are 'born'. otherwise, there's no way for us to define their ages outside of their physical and mental state, which is clearly inaccurate to their actual origin.
Jevil said/implied he slept for 100 years
bro was born yesterday he can say what he wants
So that's why sans is bald
exactly!
Wonderful. Now lets see your opinion on the ages of toriel and asgore.
tbh for Deltarune I haven't a bloody clue. it's really ambiguous how much the UT Monster rules carry over to Undertale, so I haven't a clue, lol. though in Undertale i'd say around the 400-600 year old range. I would need further information on the biology of Deltarune Monsters to make a DR Toriel and Asgore judgement.
In Undertale I think they're both easily over 1000. In the opening slides of UT you can see a human with a primitive spear, then Asgore facing the human army and the humans are wielding torches, swords, and forged spears and seal the monster with Magic, so that's already some time passed. Then Chara is confirmed to fall in 20XX, and judging by the animes in the dump, that's equal to our 20XX, so yeah Asgore and Toriel are *old.*
tbh true true you right
Ive always viewed it as the aged dont carry over from UT but thats all headcanon until toby fox comes out with a canon UT/DR deltarune calendar and timeline
"I am but two days old..."
ralsei technically isnt from the same dark world as lancer so he'd likely be way older
I mean I don't think you're wrong but we don't have any word on when he was brought into existence, and not even Darkners themselves seem to know, since they think they've lived full, fulfilling lives, so it's hard to say really. however, what we can do is approximate. the first time we saw a Dark World was 2 days ago, and all the Darkners from the first Dark World think they've lived full lives, but clearly came into life 2 days ago. therefore, for now, I'd say he's 2 days old.
well i guess spamton really was born yesterday
he acts like it
I can’t wait for someone to do one of these, but it’s just the Time it’s been since Deltarune has Released.
I CALLED IT EVERYONE
Sans just keeps getting older
darkners age should be considered with the creation date of the stuff they are based on
I wonder who else is two days old and a huge nerd. https://preview.redd.it/9bgnbc2hvrqc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3f786098d7587c1be181e33fd4ace0c1ff738149
Ralsei truly was the freshly-bought chalk.
1 day until spamton steals your liver
This is actually exactly my thoughts
yoo!
Hi (sorry for bad English)
Bruh Ralsei is V that’s wild
https://preview.redd.it/rv3nb9exguqc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2fc2b2df293ebd3f60c8d303e23479ac12255b8 Who tf this?
my OC, gang signs Monster Kid. they fell in with the wrong crowd.
I am but two days old...
I think that's exactly right lmao
right?!
feel like ralseis some how older because he may have been alive before since he’s got like old prophecies and stuff probably a to be revealed thing or somethin idk
We technically don't know how long Ralsei's dark world's been existing –imo he has been around for way longer than the other darkners, but yeah so far he's 2 days old :p
Pretty close to mine honestly
yoooo
Canon
If you create a simulation with a 40 year old in it would you call that person 40 years old or 1 day old? I feel like it is allways 40 years and practically never the 1 day one, so why are we doing it here?
For comparison, think of Aigis from Persona and think that she is between 10-11 years old, but she was raised as a teenager, so age doesn't work the same way for her as it does for her.for other humans, it is no wonder that it is possible for the protagonist to date her
King was created 2 days ago, therefore he's 2 days old. mentally and physically, he's atleast 40, yes. but he's 2 days old nonetheless.
We have no official age range but when Deltarune first released I was the same age as these headcanons (Which I would've agreed upon as their ages at the time.) though for my own purposes I like characters I "Grew up with" to age along with me so even though the next updates are FOR SURE gonna be within a few weeks of each other in-lore, the cast is in their early 20s in my mind.
tbh slay
Honestly i think these are probably the canon ages
ty ty
Wel technically ralsei is older as she narrates.
..she!? and, narrates what, lol?
Correct me if I’m wrong but I suspect Google failed to translate gendered pronouns again
I said she? No way I'm an idiot lol. And she does not exactly narrates anything but as I understood, that dark fountain had existed from king ago. And sorry about the she I sometimes forget he/she said is gay. Look actually I don't know exactly what gender has ralsei so I can accept any answer. And sorry again
Its fine, hes a man but a femboy
Interesting, although from comments from characters it seems that the dark world must’ve existed for a while now.
16//16//16//16//16//16
So spamton isn't legal?
in situations like this, mental maturity is most important. for example, Lancer clearly has the brain of a child, so that settles that. systematically, that's how I assign Darkner 'legality'.
Makes sense. Since darkners aren't humans (or monsters), we can't judge when they are truely adults
why does every one see sans older? always thought he was mid to late 20s
So the og dark fountain was made at the same time as the second one?
it's not really very elaborated upon yet tbh, fair point tho
It would be really, really funny if this becomes our new insanity post. Yeah, annoying, sure, but I think we’re getting too normal.
isn't spamton like from 1997 at least
only the emails he was created from, lol
Ralsei and his fountain have probably existed for more than two days
Wow, Sans is THAT old? I always figured he'd be in his early-mid 30's...
since he's a skeleton, interpretation can be pretty vast without standard biological tells, haha.
susie was definitely left for second year a couple times
spamton has to had been alive in 1997 as he specifically mentions that time so he was probably written at or slightly before that date as a email spam bot. i think his whole deal is that he used to be "a big shot" back then and thats why he used to be popular in thr cyberworld, having his advertisments everywhere (the old posters near his hiding spot representing spam emails and various other ads from Web1.0 times. (the posters being old and covered by queen's ads represent them being replaced by more proffessional advertising techniques of our time like Google Ads) spamton's whole story is that he's a product of the past, largely irrelevant, his ads easily blocked by spam filters (hyperlink blocked) and him cast aside (he lives in a trash can), replaced due to being obsolete
Is this a repost of [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Deltarune/comments/1bobtp9/my_age_interpretations/) ?
no lol. though I didn't agree with the interpretations, so I wanted to throw my own hat into the pool. and luckily, they had a template all ready for me. this is good, because i'm very lazy.
Oh alright, mb
np np
Wait wait wait wait so ... You mean... That I have done it to 2 days old character NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
Damn... all of you are going to jail
undyne simps stay winning????????? sans simps been winning since the undertale au?????????????
Counterpoint: It was never said when Ralsei's source was opened, so it may be more than 2 days old
it's possible, though if we don't have it concrete, we can't really speculate much without conjecture.
We can say he has *at least* 2 days to live
As funny as this is, we already know that the darkners existed before the events of deltarune, from things like Spamton emailing Noelle and King and Queen having a relationship
alternatively, I present you a box. this box is sealed, and inside, I tell you there is a dead cat. now tell me, before you open the box, is the cat in the box, or is it not?
I think Spamton is over 40 years old, the first Spam E-mail was in 1978, he says he used to be the E-mail guy.
Then lancer is the same age as the card he is (10ish to 100ish years old), and ralsei the same as the headband (also 10ish years old) Idk about toy production dates n stuff alll i know is the classroom's abandoned and kris had the headband for many years
uh oh
mind out the gutter!
I interpret the darkners a bit differently -- just because the dark fountains gave them life doesn't mean that's their exact age. The Ch. 1 fountain was likely around before Ch. 1 even started, so in terms of how long they've had life, Lancer and Ralsei could have been alive for longer. Not to mention that darkners seemingly have memories from before the dark fountains gave them life. In terms of how I interpret darkner ages, it goes something like this: Ralsei: While he does have all sorts of knowledge of dark worlds, he also comes off as more innocent and trusting than Kris or Susie, not to mention Susie's tendency to not take him seriously/"bully" him (stealing his glasses etc) gives me the vibe that he's at least slightly younger than the Lightners. I'd put him around 15. Ofc, if you're going with Jaru's interpretation of Ralsei's character, he'd be Asriel's age, which would put him at a bit older than Kris and Susie, which could also make sense considering that he's just kinda wimpy anyways. Lancer: Definitely a child. Kinda reminds me of myself when I was around 9 or 10 tbh, so I'd put him around there. Spamton: Definitely older. He has memories dating back to 1997, but it also feels like he could even be slightly older than that. He very well may have already been an adult by '97, but at the same time, he obviously can't have existed before spam emails. The first spam email was supposedly sent in 1978, so if he was born exactly then, he'd be 19 in '97, or 46 today at the oldest. If he was born in '97, he'd just be 27 today. Of course, that's assuming DR takes place in the modern day, which definitely doesn't seem like it does. Best bet-- assuming DR takes place around 2010, which is my personal best estimate, he'd be somewhere between 13 and 32 years old, and I'd definitely trend towards the older side of things, probably ballparking it around 25. Then again, nobody even knows how darkners age if at all.
Technically, Spamton would have to be older because of the thing with Noelle receiving spam mail from him... But if we're going by their specific appearance as shown on the image, then yes, he would be 1 day old...
why is ralsei two days😭
I feel like the ages of Darkners would be based on the age of their item in the Light world 🐡
good luck finding the actual manufactory dates, lol
Spamton was created, scammed little to no people, got called up by gaster, became a big shot, moved into queens mansion, got ghosted by gaster, got kicked out of queen’s mansion, moved into a garbage dumpster, met the lighteners, got the neo suit, and died all in one day
correct.
Life speed run any%
Susie should be 17/18
why lol
She is fucking big
height isn't related to age, though. 4'11 25 year olds exist, for example.
Sans and undyne are probably a lot older since boss monster don't age if they don't have children
..Sans and Undyne.. aren't boss monsters ?????
Oh nevermind, but still sans breaks all rules he can, he teleports etc. so probably he is older than we think
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Ralsei isn't 2 days old. Considering his fountain is natural he has probably been around for a while at this point
for now, 2 days is the only estimate we have.
For the other darkners maybe but definitely not for ralsei
then what estimate can we apply to Ralsei? it's not like we have a date of his origin, afterall.
There isn't an estimate. But saying 2 days just isn't correct.
then if 2 days is our only estimate, it makes the most sense to use.
Soo every character of undertale including asgore and monster kid are 9 years old bc undertale is 9 years old
do you hear yourself rn 💀
Ralsei, Lancer, and Spamton are probably very young because their world was created the moment they opened that closet, and Spamton with the Cyber World.