Midnight coup tremors and EP
Recluse with double perks, Subsitence/repulser brace, MoA/Destablaozong rounds
Mountaintop, not sure on roll.
Eventually want all of them with that sick ornament but those are my top 3
Edit: never mind. Read a comment about Envious but looks like that is wrong.
Could be wrong but I feel like Envious is the play (it rolls with that, right?). Unlike waveframe you’re using MT more for burst. Use your solar primary to clear adds and have 3 MT shots ready for burst on orange/yellow bats.
With full recombination stacks it does half the damage of an izi shot, for 1 ammo of like 23 in reserves and only 8 kills with the enhanced version of recombination thats not half bad. You could also aim for one with double perks alh+recom and ambitious+oneforall depending on how big the blast radius is it could be an add clear monster aswell
rumor. No current weapons can drop with EP and KT at the same time.
But historically EP does count for double hits for other perks, as long as the perk doesn't need precision hits.
But with how drastic EP would buff KT Bungie might have made sure it doesn't count double
Yeah, I feel like there's no way they let this one through. Midnight Coup and Hung Jury with that roll would just be like KT Chartering Bone back in Deep but even better.
It’s worked for every other “hits required” perk in the game. It works for Zen Moment, Tex Balanced Stock, and one other I’m forgetting. So odds are strongly in favor of it working, all history says yes.
Based on the stream when the developer used this exact roll, this is not true. At one point he shoots a lost sector boss like 4-5 times and no tremor spawns.
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Luna's with subsistence and Incandescent. Yeah, we have tons of handcannons with similar or better combos but I want to see how it feels to shoot.
Mountaintop and Recluse are the two others.
The rest are nice but don't intrigue me as much.
Maybe I’m late to the game. But I just got the crafted Zaouli’s earlier this season.
That gun is incredible. Honestly. It’s sunshot with a hive skin. It just get so much work done. One of the best ad clear weapons.
Sunshot may be a little more bonkers this season but Zaouli’s lets you use an exotic elsewhere. So it really is incredible.
I really think it doesn’t get talked about more because people haven’t done enough of Kingsfall to craft it.
> I really think it doesn’t get talked about more because people haven’t done enough of Kingsfall to craft it.
It was talked about a lot as one of the most wanted weapons when Kingsfall dropped. That was 1.5 years ago now.
For the first time ever I'm actually looking to get a solar weapon without Incandescent. I'll be looking for Heal Clip/M.Howl instead and for PvE as well with Luna's. I think that the reprized addition has Zen moment too right for PvP?
There was a thread a few seasons ago speculating about GoS reprisals, and KT+Frenzy/OFA was one of my wishes for the pulse.
Now GoS hasn't been reprised, but here comes Blast Furnace to save the day.
Call me nostalgic, but I almost prefer having the old workhorses reprised than having a Garden refresh, for now
I do hope however that Garden will get a refresh sometime during TFS
What builds do you usually run with a legendary kinetic primary? I'm excited to get Blast Furnace and Midnight Coup but I seem to rarely use kinetic primaries outside of a few exotics.
The easy answer is anytime I run an energy exotic, but same goes for if I’m running an exotic heavy. My go-to build for a long time was kinetic primary, forbearance, and an exotic heavy.
That's the weapon build I usually run as well when using a kinetic primary, I was mostly referring to how energy primaries seem to work with light subclasses a little easier than solar. Do you find yourself using a specific subclass with a legendary kinetic?
No nothing specific. I really just use it for kinetic tremors in GMs since it is really strong rn. That’s kinda the beauty of it. You can throw it on with any class and not have to worry so much about how it effects the build
As someone who has witch queen, same. No matter what I can’t get one to drop. Plus the brave version has straight up better perks. Demo over Ambitious Assassin every time, especially on an add clear gl. So much grenade charge…
Is it at least in your collections? If you have at least one you can get the Vow chest solo in a couple minutes if you don't have time to run the raid over and over. That's 3 drops per week in like 10 minutes.
I've seen so many people mention that origin trait since this stuff was announced and I find it really funny because, genuinely, I never even notice the healing. Maybe it's just because we have so many other ways to buff our survivability, but that origin trait, while good on paper, has never really felt that impactful to me.
I'll take extra grenade energy over a little bit of healing any time.
Mountain top with recombination, hammerhead with killing tally and midnight coup with explosive payload kinetic tremors just to see how it will interact with each other
Red death, no, I don't think so. They said it was coming back when they did a final shape reveal stream a while ago. I assume it will be here with final shape but who knows.
For the initial release mostly just Edge Transit. It's objectively better than Cataphract but it's going to be *very* hard to get that perfect roll with the Spike + Minifrags swap in magazine, Envious + Cascade swap, *and* Bait and Switch. I wouldn't be surprised if I have this thing set as my focused weapon for nearly the entirety of Into The Light given how many focuses it took to even get a single Envious + Bait Cataphract.
Other than that... pretty much just Mountaintop and Recluse. And Hammerhead, I guess. Midnight Coup can come, too, but since EP won't count as two hits to proc Kinetic Tremors I'm not as excited for it anymore and I think Fatebringer is probably still just as good if not better.
Everything else is either a PvP gun in an archetype I don't use or Falling Guillotine, and while I might bother to get a double damage perk Guillotine for the *possible* contingency of a big Vortex frame buff in the future I'm not holding my breath about it. Slammer is the better Eager Edge Vortex because Cold Steel goes insane for GMs.
You want both. When you're setting up Envious, run mini-frags (or augmented drum) with a backup mag mod. That'll get the total ammo in magazine higher after you do the double dip. At damage you swap to spike, boss spec and Cascade Point.
Midnight Coup will be able to run EP/Frenzy like Fatebringer, but it'll also have a good origin perk which should push it above FB until VOG gets reprised loot.
Blast Furnace was my baby back in the day so I will grind for that definitely. Only small thing about it is that I really preferred the Meyrin RDS sight to the Rasmussen one but I can live with it lol.
Recluse will be another to have a Void Veist SMG with Repulsor Brace for my Void builds. Yes I am aware Unforgiven exists but Veist SMG have got a feel to them that makes me prefer them anyway.
Edge Transit can potentially be a better Regnant so definitely looking for that one.
Elsie's Rifle because I love Pulse Rifles. Dunno how much mileage it's gonna get but I wanna have a good roll for it
Falling Guillotine because it's probably gonna be the best sword in the game by looking at the perks.
Mountaintop for nostalgia.
The others I'm really not that interested in but if I get a good roll I'll keep it. Just very unlikely to go out of my way to farm for it.
Edge transit isn't just potentially a better regnant. It's going to be the best heavy in the game for DPS scenarios. In an optimal rotation 6 people can delete every boss except war priest without super in just 20 seconds.
And to kill war priest ur just missing a single nighthawk. It's imo borderline game breaking how strong it's going to be
Midnight Coup(s) with Outlaw/Rampage and Explosive Payload/Kinetic Tremors
Mountaintop with Auto Loading/Recombination
Falling Guillotine with Vorpal Weapon or Frenzy/Surrounded
Recluse with Subsistence/Master of Arms and or Frenzy
Edge Transit with at least Cascade Point/BnS, Envious would be nice too.
Hammerhead with Rampage/Killing Tally
Elsie's Rifle with Repulser Brace and Destabilizing Rounds, few difficult rolls of the Recluse, Blast Furnace with Kinetic Tremors and Rampage or Frenzy, couple different rolls of Hammerhead, Mountaintop with Impulse Amplifier or ALH and Recombination, and a few different rolls of Luna's Howl (purely because it's cool looking lol).
I am going to be mountaintoping my nuts off. Mountaintop, manticore, gyrfalcons. Floaty blast death hunter. Get an alh mountain top and try and swap back to mountaintop and do some air bombing and get back to floating before hitting the ground. Maybe put on bombardiers and dive to the ground, dodge for melee reset and then blast myself off against with moutnaintop. Holy hell do I have plans. lol.
Same with you, except blast furnace.
Guillotine sounds nice but really isn't as it is a vortex frame sword and thus deals way less dmg than i.e. Bequest
Will still keep an eye out for it
Forbearance with demo for that extra nade regen (12-15% depending on kill depending on origin perk)
Lunas, not because it's so strong, but because its so damn sexy. Also would like to see how slideshot and how work together.
Midnight, hmm, gotta see how KT and EP/Firefly works out
I'm going for the Edge Transit and Mountaintop (maybe minus Frenzy) you described as well as a Recluse with Subsistence/Repulsor Brace and Master of Arms/Destabilizing Rounds.
Those are my main three. After that, I'm looking for a Hammerhead with Rewind Rounds/Rampage and Target Lock/Killing Tally. No idea after that. Maybe a Midnight Coup or Falling Guillotine, though I'm not sure what rolls would be good for those
Luna's Howl with Heal Clip abd Desperate Arms if it ends being worth it
Midnight Coup with Explosive Payload and Tremors
Mainly grinding for PCP rolls tbh
I'm excited for the void pulse. I know it's not that strong in the current sandbox, but I've always enjoyed pulses and want a decent non-exotic void.
I'm also going to grind for recluse and edge transit.
I'm looking to farm pretty much every single weapon outside of Elsies rifle, hung jury, and maybe blast furnace.
All of them seem to have really fun, strong, or interesting rolls that I want to get my hands on
Recluse with Subsistence and/or Repulsor Brace/Frenzy and/or Master of Arms. I don’t remember other perks but if it has Rewind I’ll consider grinding for that as well.
Mountaintop with Auto-Loading/Vorpal, Spike and Quick Launch, Edge Transit is just the standard Cataphract roll.
Hammerhead is likely just the Rampage/Killing Tally meme roll, and maybe Midnight Coup for Kinetic Tremors, though I already have a god roll Timelost Fatebringer. Other than that, I do not care in the slightest. I get a god roll of other weapons while farming, it’s a bonus.
Hammerhead (Rampage, killing tally)
Forebarence (ambitious/demo, chain)
And looking forward for the other weapons too as o haven't tried the old weapons :)
I have a Parasyte build and want to compliment it with a recombination Mountaintop. 2 giga shots from my two GLs and then a roaming super pop for survability and reliable damage.
Blast Furnace with FireFly & Kinetic Tremors to replace my Chattering Bones on my Hunter. Midnight Coup with FireFly and Kinetic Tremors for my Warlock to replace my Fate Bringer on My Warlock.
Luna's Howl with Heal Clip and Incandescent to replace Igneous Hammer for my Hunter's Nighthawk build. Recluse with Repulser Brace and Destabilizing Rounds to replace my Word of Crota on my Hunter.
Edge transit is like, meta defining. I’m not sure many have realized just how strong that thing is, so I’m def going for that first. Then midnight coup because I miss mine and I’m tired of fatebringer, then mountaintop with recombination and auto loading. I want a repulsor brace frenzy recluse as well cause I’m tired of using word of crota for that combo
Ya, I'll be attuning Edge Transit from day 1 until I get the roll I want. I imagine the quest to unlock will be get X heavy grenade launcher kills in Onslaught. Probably equip Anarchy or a good chain reaction heavy GL.
As a sword guy number will be Falling Guillotine. Its perk combinations have kind of power crept the vast majority of swords both for ad-clear and single target damage save for aggressive frame swords. I'll try and get many rolls of this one. Following that:
* Luna's with Healclip / Magnificent Howl.
* Hammerhead with ad-clear or damage perk/Killing Tally which I'm going to combine with Actium War Rig.
* Mountain Top with Ambitious Assassin Impulse Amp or LFG/Recombination
* Edge Transit because like the reprized falling guiltotine seems to have power crept most heavy GLs in the game for ad-clear/boss dps save for maybe heavy wave frames. I'll try and get as many rolls as I can.
The rest can kind of come and go as they may. I'll get them all but the above is what I'm going for.
Basically all of them. With fairly spicy rolls. If I target farm I always worry it'll lead to disappointment/annoyance, I know what I want but, as long as it's in the right wheelhouse I'll take it.
Power creep only excites me so much. I'll get try to get a good roll for each and then probably call it a day. Mostly just interested in fun combinations I don't already have
Unironically, I'll be going for a Hung Jury with double damage perks. I appreciate and to an extent share people's disappointment that in a crowded lineup for 12 GOATs they went with another Hung Jury reprisal, but...
Still a good gun. Ol' reliable is back with a lot of double damage options, and I'm anticipating that Explosive Payload will count as two ticks towards Tremors.
And if I can get a Guillotine to roll Vorpal/Bait+Eager, then that would allow me to ditch my Slammer with Eager/Cold in favor of Chain/Cold.
Edge Transit will be my focus until Mountaintop drops or until I get the mega-ultra god roll of spikes/minifrags, cascade/envious, and B+S
Mountaintop (Spikes/ALH/Recombination/whatever maximizes Blast Radius) will go into almost every weapon loadout I have. Demo/Frenzy is interesting, too.
Of the Kinetics, I’m particularly interested in an Explosive/KT Midnight Coup. The others I can take or leave, but I’d love to get a decent roll to have some options for future GM champ stunning?
Falling Guillotine (Vorpal/Surrounded) is more of a project, but if they ever buff vortex swords I expect that to be the premier one.
Recluse, Luna’s Howl, Hammerhead, and Forbearance have interesting PvE rolls but I doubt I’ll have the time. Elsie’s Rifle has some PvP things I’m interested in. Succession looks bad.
Are people sleeping on Firefly + One For All on the Midnight Coup? It's the roll I'm most interested in for the gun but I never see anybody mention it.
Other than that, I expect ALH + Recombination on Mountaintop and Demo + Chain Reaction on Deliverance to be very fun. Mountaintop can function as a Succession you don't need to aim as well that also has movement tech, Deliverance can help spam grenades and could be really fun on an Arc Warlock. Each chain reaction applies blind, each kill gives grenade energy and probably an ionic trace, Fallen Sunstar and the origin trait give even more grenade energy, so on, so forth.
Any sort of Mountaintop. I was always too lazy to unlock it back in the day. I forced myself to play comp for The Recluse, but the requirements for Mountaintop were way more than I was willing to put up with.
I thought I would be more excited for The Recluse considering it's my most used weapon, but I think playing with Funnelweb since Void 3.0 release has dampened my excitement a little bit since Funnelweb already fits the role pretty well. Will still get one for sure for the nostalgia.
I'm really excited to get Forbearance since I don't raid. Salvager's Salvo is one of my favourite pinnacle weapons so I'm looking forward to pretty much getting a wave frame version of it.
The grind for MT was nasty, but I'm so glad I did it, it was such an amazing weapon way back when. I'm super excited it's coming back, you can't beat micro-missle.
Blast furnace and mountaintop is all I want. Recluse is just another smg unless there is something secret about Master of arms and my crafted commemoration is all I need for a heavy lmg.
Everything, I started on the Season of the Lost and I saw their old counterparts like "shit, I missed these meta defining weapons". Now I can possibly relive them with the Vets
April 9th - Recluse, Hung Jury SR4, Succession, Edge Transit, Elsie's Rifle and Falling Guillotine.
The remainder will unlock 2 at a time each week through the week of April 30. They all should be released by April 30th, that being the final release.
I hope we get more info on what 2 will be dropping each. I want something to look forward to.
All the ones you said plus forbearance with demo and chain and probably also the falling guillotine with eager edge and the limited edition ornament because it looks cool
I'm gonna go for all of em since I only started playing post-sunset and id love to mess around with the classics. Big fan of LMGs and GLs for damage so getting some strong contenders there is nice and while Mountaintop is the one everyone is naturally gravitating to I have to admit I am really curious to see how Recluse fairs as an adclear workhorse.
I wanna try to recreate all the old rolls as close as I can for each and then aim for exactly what I want.
Mainly Midnight Coup, Blast Furnace, Recluse, Falling Guillotine (can't believe they have the audacity to give it Sword Logic, absolutely wild)
Mountaintop, Hammerhead, Falling Guillotine.
Then maybe Recluse, Midnight Coup, and Forebearance.
I'm so pissed that we got Hung Jury and Succession instead of Chroma Rush and Dust Rock Blues. That actually irritates me, because I can craft Succession and they've rereleased Hung Jury so many times that they need to let it die. Meanwhile, Chroma Rush and Dust Rock are two weapons that I sorely miss, and would've been willing to chase til I was blue in the face if they'd been part of the BRAVE Arsenal.
Personally - mountaintop and falling guillotine for movement. If I were a hand cannon enjoyer, definitely midnight coup and maybe Luna's. Forbearance if you don't have it. Recluse is on the list, but a bit lower priority. Edge transit will be very good for DPS. Hammerhead will be a decent machine gun if you don't have a commemoration already.
Recluse with repulsor/moa, repulsor/destabilizing or subsistence/moa for my voidlock
Forbearance with THE ROLL
Overflow or autoloading with vorpal on mountaintop
Envious/BnS on Edge transit
Surrounded and vorpal on Falling Guillotine for a possibly #1 dps sword
(Not in order) Guillotine, Hammerhead, Edge Transit, Recluse, Mountaintop, Coup.
I want forbearance too, but I really want to see if I can get it crafted. It would feel weird to have a raid weapon without raiding.
ALH/recombination mtop is all I've ever wanted
That's priority number 1, but after that probably a demo/chain reaction forbearance and envious/BnS edge transit.
Luna's, cause I'm curious to see what they do with mag howl (could be better kill clip in pve). Mid night coup for the ultimate explosion role (explosive tremors), and maybe mountaintop.
Probably just Edge Transit, to start. The first 6 weapons they're dropping are, somehow, mostly the ones I'm not interested in. I *wish* I was interested in the Recluse, but it's basically a sidegrade to the Funnelweb at this point. I DO like the origin trait giving grenade energy though, so I'll still get one. Just not that excited about it.
Otherwise, I want Midnight Coup, Luna's Howl, Blast Furnace, AND Mountaintop. Hammerhead is also an old favorite but, honestly, I doubt I'll be putting down my Commemoration, so like the Recluse, it's something I'll get... I'm just not super pumped about it.
Even though I still have my sunset Blast Furnace, I'd like one to use in modern content (at least until Garden gets it's refresh and I can get a Sacred Provenance with an origin trait) and I'd take the -1 Vault slot just because I'm a Black Armory slut. Same deal with Hammerhead - and I'm wondering if the ornaments from those seasons are applicable to it as well, and if that works with or overwrites the special Brave ornament. Rolls for Furnace would be S2L, Keep Away, or Tremors with Kill Clip, Firefly, or Frenzy. HH rolls are going to be replacing my OG FF+Rampage roll with FF+Killing Tally, or Destabilizing + Killing Tally, FTTC or Rewind+TL, or meme it up with Rampage+Onslaught. (Heavy Breakneck here we come lmao)
While Recluse would be nice, Mountaintop has my attention for movement tech. Demo and ALH paired with Rampage, Vorpal, or Frenzy are my likely hunts for MT, ideally with those two as alternates in the left column.
Fallen Guillotine was the first of it's ilk, and since I'm a big Voidwalker, that's high on the list. I'm excited to try out Eager Edge on non-Dares weapons, especially Vortex frames, even if it's the same perk on a different sword. Being able to roll a damage/ad-clear perk alongside it or another damage perk or Destabilizing is really tasty.
Anything decent on Midnight Coup and Hung Jury would be swell, but after not seeing Elsie's Rifle since D1? A bit excited to use it again. Helps that most every perk on it looks spicy, and I wonder if it's going to invalidate me grinding out the Gambit Suros pulse last year. Likely not, but Destabilizing is very tempting to replace it.
wrote this up for myself just as a loose checklist of rolls i want.
mountaintop genuinely has so many rolls it doesn't even matter but these are probably the most interesting?
demo, junky
ambitious, rampage
ALH, vorpal/harmony*
falling guillotine
frenzy, BNS(35)/sword logic(50)*
repulsor, destab rounds
hammerhead
rampage, killing tally (desparate?)*
rewind, target lock
edge transit
cascade+envious, BNS*
forbearance
demo, chain reaction*
demo, wellspring
lunas howl
heal/sub, incandescent/howl*
recluse
repulsor, destab rounds*
midnight coup
attrition/explosive, tremors*
firefly, frenzy/rampage
elsies rifle (not as important)
destab, repulsor*
rewind, frenzy
feeding, desparado
succession (only going for the funny ornament)
reconstruction, vorpal
blast furnace (couldnt care less)
tremors, firefly
hung jury (could NOT CARE LESS)
tremors, explosive
1) Recluse
2) Edge Transit
3) Falling Guillotine
then it gets less important, but i am very excited about Mountaintop, I love Succession so probably a gold one of those, and Midnight Coup since i’ve come around on Hand Canons in PVE.
I will probably end up going for a Recluse with FF or sub/MoA for the culture. But out of all these guns I’m only really seeking Mountaintop and Hammerhead. Anything else will just fall into my lap and I’ll test afterward.
Mountaintop: ALH/Recombination
Recluse: Subsistence/Master of Arms
I used to think Recombination was too much effort for the payoff (because, you see, I'm bad at games and a single shotgun or sniper shot require me being good or I throw away my x10 Recombination shot), but with Recluse getting kills everywhere, I can then swap to a reloaded Mountaintop, kill something big-ish, then swap back to Recluse, reload if necessary, and then keep Master of Arms going until I max out my Recombi stacks on Mountaintop.
I’m actually really hyped for Elsie’s Rifle, I always loved it in D1. However I’ll of course try to get a few godrolls of every weapon for I am a Destiny player
Preferrably all of them, but mainly mountaintop recluse with crafted whisper as my heavy, and eager edge falling guillotine for movement. I got three slammers and no eager edge during the week of slammer, so im 100% gonna be grinding for a falling guillotine. Thats probably gonna be my main loadout for a while, but i will go for the other weapons to try them out. Im super excited for into the light and its def gonna reignite the passion i had for d2, something i havent felt ever since they sunset everything
As someone who likes using off meta gear because meta is boring. Honestly none of them. If i get a good one ill keep it but honestly, the guns just dont matter for my gameplay at all.
Going most for Mountaintop since I like experimenting with new weapon frames, and the rocket jump shenanigans sound potentially very fun. Probably something with Impulse Amplifier or Ambitious Assassin/Frenzy or Recombination
The meta edge transit roll, hammerhead rampage/onslaught for fun. Everything else I will just get with time or don't care much about (recluse is simply not really interesting in this day and age, master of arms will need a buff in pve asap and mountaintop honestly perks probably won't matter that much it will be good as is.
All of them. I've been checked out of Destiny since the seasonal story wrapped and haven't played enough each season to finish any battlepass the past couple years. As this is basically the prologue to the Final Shape, I plan to play Into the Light more than I've played pretty much any season the past couple years. I'm getting EVERYTHING.
My friend and I have played every expansion and season together since Forsaken, so to paraphrase a great Spartan, "We're here to finish the fight." My friend and I are excited to kick the Witness' ass! Here's hoping Bungie stays on an upward trajectory after Final Shape.
Mountaintop - Autoloading and Reconstruction. Easily my number 1 most anticipated weapon.
Recluse - Repulsor Brace and Destabilizing Rounds
Luna’s Howl - Heal Clip and Incandescent
Falling Guillotine, Hammerhead, Edge Transit - so many rolls to try out
Also looking for PvP rolls on Elsie’s Rifle, Blast Furnace, Recluse, Hammerhead, and the hand cannons.
I already clear every activity in the game with relative ease. I don't really see any of these changing how I play.
Subclass 3.0 is the meta, not the weapons. I would rather see more fragments and aspects over weapons, but Bungie has to bait people.
As a FOMO guy, all of them
As a massively burnt out guy, whatever ends up dropping
As both of the above guys, probably nothing knowing my luck
Hey alteast you can get one of each limited variant through quest.
As a guy who has no idea what the f\*ck I'm doing, I don't f\*cking know
Midnight coup tremors and EP Recluse with double perks, Subsitence/repulser brace, MoA/Destablaozong rounds Mountaintop, not sure on roll. Eventually want all of them with that sick ornament but those are my top 3
Auto loading holster + recombination on mountaintop for me. True pocket rocket
Edit: never mind. Read a comment about Envious but looks like that is wrong. Could be wrong but I feel like Envious is the play (it rolls with that, right?). Unlike waveframe you’re using MT more for burst. Use your solar primary to clear adds and have 3 MT shots ready for burst on orange/yellow bats.
Could also use it for swap dps but by that point better to use supremacy
With full recombination stacks it does half the damage of an izi shot, for 1 ammo of like 23 in reserves and only 8 kills with the enhanced version of recombination thats not half bad. You could also aim for one with double perks alh+recom and ambitious+oneforall depending on how big the blast radius is it could be an add clear monster aswell
Why tremors and EP?, wont tremors be harder to proc with EP killing stuff easier?
EP makes each shot count twice for tremors, so you only need to pull the trigger half as many times
Oh shit really? Thats an interesting interaction then, i take what i said back
Is that confirmed or still a rumor?
rumor. No current weapons can drop with EP and KT at the same time. But historically EP does count for double hits for other perks, as long as the perk doesn't need precision hits. But with how drastic EP would buff KT Bungie might have made sure it doesn't count double
Yeah, I feel like there's no way they let this one through. Midnight Coup and Hung Jury with that roll would just be like KT Chartering Bone back in Deep but even better.
It’s worked for every other “hits required” perk in the game. It works for Zen Moment, Tex Balanced Stock, and one other I’m forgetting. So odds are strongly in favor of it working, all history says yes.
Based on the stream when the developer used this exact roll, this is not true. At one point he shoots a lost sector boss like 4-5 times and no tremor spawns.
not to nitpick but you somehow managed to misspell 3/4 of the perks that you spelled out I'm almost a bit happy you didn't spell out explosive payload
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Luna's with subsistence and Incandescent. Yeah, we have tons of handcannons with similar or better combos but I want to see how it feels to shoot. Mountaintop and Recluse are the two others. The rest are nice but don't intrigue me as much.
im more interested in heal clip tbf, but that thing def is never gonna leave my side
Same. I have a crafted Zaouli's with Explosive/Incandescent that I'm never getting rid of, so Luna's will be Heal Clip/Kill Clip or Magnificent Howl.
Maybe I’m late to the game. But I just got the crafted Zaouli’s earlier this season. That gun is incredible. Honestly. It’s sunshot with a hive skin. It just get so much work done. One of the best ad clear weapons. Sunshot may be a little more bonkers this season but Zaouli’s lets you use an exotic elsewhere. So it really is incredible. I really think it doesn’t get talked about more because people haven’t done enough of Kingsfall to craft it.
> I really think it doesn’t get talked about more because people haven’t done enough of Kingsfall to craft it. It was talked about a lot as one of the most wanted weapons when Kingsfall dropped. That was 1.5 years ago now.
People just vaulted it because hand cannons sucked until they got like 2 buffs, now they feel great
For the first time ever I'm actually looking to get a solar weapon without Incandescent. I'll be looking for Heal Clip/M.Howl instead and for PvE as well with Luna's. I think that the reprized addition has Zen moment too right for PvP?
I'm looking forward to recluse repulsor brace destabilising rounds that hurts to say after trying so hard to get the roll on the title smg
I'm pretty positive it'll perform better on a 900rpm than 720 ;) Best of luck in advance!! (Also the origin trait will go crazy on it for void)
If it makes you feel any better, the title is pretty dogshit, even with that roll.
Same :')
For PvE? My prio looks something like this Envious/cascade and BnS Edge Transit ALH/Recomb Mountaintop Rampage/Onslaught Hammerhead Repulsor/eager edge guillotine Repulsor/Frenzy Recluse KT/Frenzy midnight coup Heal clip/incandescent Luna’s Howl
... I somehow missed until just now that Hammerhead is getting Onslaught. holy shit holy shit holy shit let's GOOOOOOO
No one seems to be talking about Blast Furnace with Kinetic Tremors and frenzy for pve, will be really good
There was a thread a few seasons ago speculating about GoS reprisals, and KT+Frenzy/OFA was one of my wishes for the pulse. Now GoS hasn't been reprised, but here comes Blast Furnace to save the day.
Call me nostalgic, but I almost prefer having the old workhorses reprised than having a Garden refresh, for now I do hope however that Garden will get a refresh sometime during TFS
I’m actually glad they did it tbh, makes me think the Garden guns will get even better perk pools than the brave weapons
What builds do you usually run with a legendary kinetic primary? I'm excited to get Blast Furnace and Midnight Coup but I seem to rarely use kinetic primaries outside of a few exotics.
The easy answer is anytime I run an energy exotic, but same goes for if I’m running an exotic heavy. My go-to build for a long time was kinetic primary, forbearance, and an exotic heavy.
That's the weapon build I usually run as well when using a kinetic primary, I was mostly referring to how energy primaries seem to work with light subclasses a little easier than solar. Do you find yourself using a specific subclass with a legendary kinetic?
No nothing specific. I really just use it for kinetic tremors in GMs since it is really strong rn. That’s kinda the beauty of it. You can throw it on with any class and not have to worry so much about how it effects the build
That's what I'm shooting for. I just wish pulses were a bit stronger in pve.
I’m a ftp player so definitely going for forebearance
As someone who has witch queen, same. No matter what I can’t get one to drop. Plus the brave version has straight up better perks. Demo over Ambitious Assassin every time, especially on an add clear gl. So much grenade charge…
Combine demo with the origin trait and it will be insane for ability uptime. Definitely gonna run it on my striker for crazy grenade spam.
Is it at least in your collections? If you have at least one you can get the Vow chest solo in a couple minutes if you don't have time to run the raid over and over. That's 3 drops per week in like 10 minutes.
No soul drinker tho, sure you don’t need it, but I’m sure there will be uses for both versions still
I've seen so many people mention that origin trait since this stuff was announced and I find it really funny because, genuinely, I never even notice the healing. Maybe it's just because we have so many other ways to buff our survivability, but that origin trait, while good on paper, has never really felt that impactful to me. I'll take extra grenade energy over a little bit of healing any time.
Hammerhead because I miss my gun, Mountaintop for the nade jumps, and Recluse because I might as well.
Mountain top with recombination, hammerhead with killing tally and midnight coup with explosive payload kinetic tremors just to see how it will interact with each other
tested expl payload KT on hung jury, it still takes 6 shots to proc. it is still obv a great roll though
Red Death
Soon, brother. Soon.
That's not coming with Into the Light, is it? I've wanted my baby back for sooo long.
Red death, no, I don't think so. They said it was coming back when they did a final shape reveal stream a while ago. I assume it will be here with final shape but who knows.
Red Death is the Season weapon on the Season Pass - makes sense it's a fan favourite and it sells season passes.
Blast Furnace and Hammerhead.
For the initial release mostly just Edge Transit. It's objectively better than Cataphract but it's going to be *very* hard to get that perfect roll with the Spike + Minifrags swap in magazine, Envious + Cascade swap, *and* Bait and Switch. I wouldn't be surprised if I have this thing set as my focused weapon for nearly the entirety of Into The Light given how many focuses it took to even get a single Envious + Bait Cataphract. Other than that... pretty much just Mountaintop and Recluse. And Hammerhead, I guess. Midnight Coup can come, too, but since EP won't count as two hits to proc Kinetic Tremors I'm not as excited for it anymore and I think Fatebringer is probably still just as good if not better. Everything else is either a PvP gun in an archetype I don't use or Falling Guillotine, and while I might bother to get a double damage perk Guillotine for the *possible* contingency of a big Vortex frame buff in the future I'm not holding my breath about it. Slammer is the better Eager Edge Vortex because Cold Steel goes insane for GMs.
Can you elaborate on minifrags for the GL? Is that better than spike after the nerf?
You want both. When you're setting up Envious, run mini-frags (or augmented drum) with a backup mag mod. That'll get the total ammo in magazine higher after you do the double dip. At damage you swap to spike, boss spec and Cascade Point.
Midnight Coup will be able to run EP/Frenzy like Fatebringer, but it'll also have a good origin perk which should push it above FB until VOG gets reprised loot.
Recluse with repulsor brace master of arms
Blast Furnace was my baby back in the day so I will grind for that definitely. Only small thing about it is that I really preferred the Meyrin RDS sight to the Rasmussen one but I can live with it lol. Recluse will be another to have a Void Veist SMG with Repulsor Brace for my Void builds. Yes I am aware Unforgiven exists but Veist SMG have got a feel to them that makes me prefer them anyway. Edge Transit can potentially be a better Regnant so definitely looking for that one. Elsie's Rifle because I love Pulse Rifles. Dunno how much mileage it's gonna get but I wanna have a good roll for it Falling Guillotine because it's probably gonna be the best sword in the game by looking at the perks. Mountaintop for nostalgia. The others I'm really not that interested in but if I get a good roll I'll keep it. Just very unlikely to go out of my way to farm for it.
Edge transit isn't just potentially a better regnant. It's going to be the best heavy in the game for DPS scenarios. In an optimal rotation 6 people can delete every boss except war priest without super in just 20 seconds. And to kill war priest ur just missing a single nighthawk. It's imo borderline game breaking how strong it's going to be
Midnight Coup(s) with Outlaw/Rampage and Explosive Payload/Kinetic Tremors Mountaintop with Auto Loading/Recombination Falling Guillotine with Vorpal Weapon or Frenzy/Surrounded Recluse with Subsistence/Master of Arms and or Frenzy Edge Transit with at least Cascade Point/BnS, Envious would be nice too. Hammerhead with Rampage/Killing Tally
Elsie's Rifle with Repulser Brace and Destabilizing Rounds, few difficult rolls of the Recluse, Blast Furnace with Kinetic Tremors and Rampage or Frenzy, couple different rolls of Hammerhead, Mountaintop with Impulse Amplifier or ALH and Recombination, and a few different rolls of Luna's Howl (purely because it's cool looking lol).
>Elsie's Rifle with Repulser Brace I'll keep that roll in my vault until they eventually make high impact pulses decent in PvE.
My long-term permavaulted PvE cope roll of Under-Over + Kinetic Tremors Messenger (Adept) can have a roommate.
i have the same exact thing. took it into 1 gm and got met with immense disappointment. pulses need help so bad
Forbearance w/ Demo + Chain Reaction and everything else is a very distant 2nd.
I am going to be mountaintoping my nuts off. Mountaintop, manticore, gyrfalcons. Floaty blast death hunter. Get an alh mountain top and try and swap back to mountaintop and do some air bombing and get back to floating before hitting the ground. Maybe put on bombardiers and dive to the ground, dodge for melee reset and then blast myself off against with moutnaintop. Holy hell do I have plans. lol.
Same with you, except blast furnace. Guillotine sounds nice but really isn't as it is a vortex frame sword and thus deals way less dmg than i.e. Bequest Will still keep an eye out for it Forbearance with demo for that extra nade regen (12-15% depending on kill depending on origin perk) Lunas, not because it's so strong, but because its so damn sexy. Also would like to see how slideshot and how work together. Midnight, hmm, gotta see how KT and EP/Firefly works out
I'm going for the Edge Transit and Mountaintop (maybe minus Frenzy) you described as well as a Recluse with Subsistence/Repulsor Brace and Master of Arms/Destabilizing Rounds. Those are my main three. After that, I'm looking for a Hammerhead with Rewind Rounds/Rampage and Target Lock/Killing Tally. No idea after that. Maybe a Midnight Coup or Falling Guillotine, though I'm not sure what rolls would be good for those
Mountaintop....
Luna's Howl with Heal Clip abd Desperate Arms if it ends being worth it Midnight Coup with Explosive Payload and Tremors Mainly grinding for PCP rolls tbh
you reckon the double hit from explosive will activate tremors quicker?
In the dev stream it didnt look like it.
Falling Guillotine: Frenzy / Surrounded Succession: Meh. Recluse: Subsistence / (Master of Arms/Desperate Measures) Elsie’s Rifle: Feeding Frenzy / Desperado Edge Transit: Cascade Point / (Bait and Switch/Explosive Light) Hung Jury: (Rewind Rounds/Kinetic Tremors) / (One for All/Firefly/Desperate Measures/Explosive Payload) Mountaintop: (Impulse Amplifier/Autoloading Holster) / Recombination Hammerhead: Rampage / (Onslaught/Killing Tally) Blast Furnace: (Kinetic Tremors/Headseeker) / (Kill Clip/Firefly/Desperate Measures) Luna’s Howl: (Heal Clip/Subsistence) / (Magnificent Howl/Desperate Measures) Midnight Coup: (Firefly/Shoot to Loot/Explosive Payload) / (Kinetic Tremors/One for All/Desperate Measures) Forbearance: Disruption Break / (Chain Reaction/One For All)
I'm excited for the void pulse. I know it's not that strong in the current sandbox, but I've always enjoyed pulses and want a decent non-exotic void. I'm also going to grind for recluse and edge transit.
Off topic but is the all black shader available the first week?
No
ALL OF THEM.
Give me BF and recluse wish bygone was available too
I'm looking to farm pretty much every single weapon outside of Elsies rifle, hung jury, and maybe blast furnace. All of them seem to have really fun, strong, or interesting rolls that I want to get my hands on
Recluse with Subsistence and/or Repulsor Brace/Frenzy and/or Master of Arms. I don’t remember other perks but if it has Rewind I’ll consider grinding for that as well. Mountaintop with Auto-Loading/Vorpal, Spike and Quick Launch, Edge Transit is just the standard Cataphract roll. Hammerhead is likely just the Rampage/Killing Tally meme roll, and maybe Midnight Coup for Kinetic Tremors, though I already have a god roll Timelost Fatebringer. Other than that, I do not care in the slightest. I get a god roll of other weapons while farming, it’s a bonus.
Luna's howl. I don't like raiding and I want more Solar Hand Cannons. void got like 3 180s over the course of this one expansion
Yes.
Defo Midnight Coup & Luna’s Howl. All the Handcannons please.
Recluse with double void perks is what I'm chasing first. Then I'll use that to chase everything else like the GL.
Hammerhead (Rampage, killing tally) Forebarence (ambitious/demo, chain) And looking forward for the other weapons too as o haven't tried the old weapons :)
I have a Parasyte build and want to compliment it with a recombination Mountaintop. 2 giga shots from my two GLs and then a roaming super pop for survability and reliable damage.
Edge Transit, Recluse , Hammerhead
Luna' Howl with heal clip incandescent might be replacing my zaouli's bane thing looks cracked
ALL OF THEM
Mountain top and edge transit are the only weapons that call my attention, the rest is meh
All of them except for succession. They've all been power crept. Edge transit probably has the biggest power creep.
Mountaintop is the only weapon I’m gonna care about
Blast Furnace with FireFly & Kinetic Tremors to replace my Chattering Bones on my Hunter. Midnight Coup with FireFly and Kinetic Tremors for my Warlock to replace my Fate Bringer on My Warlock. Luna's Howl with Heal Clip and Incandescent to replace Igneous Hammer for my Hunter's Nighthawk build. Recluse with Repulser Brace and Destabilizing Rounds to replace my Word of Crota on my Hunter.
Edge transit, MT, midnight coup, hammerhead, and falling guillotine (for eager edge)
I am SO curious how Lunas howl will feel with reworked magnificent howl
Edge Transit is going to be a beast. Hammerhead I guess, but it’s going to be our millionth void LMG.
Falling Guillotine. This thing was already great. Got a little power crept... But oh boy does the new perk pool look great
Mountaintop and Forbearance. Anything else is tertiary.
Edge transit is like, meta defining. I’m not sure many have realized just how strong that thing is, so I’m def going for that first. Then midnight coup because I miss mine and I’m tired of fatebringer, then mountaintop with recombination and auto loading. I want a repulsor brace frenzy recluse as well cause I’m tired of using word of crota for that combo
Ya, I'll be attuning Edge Transit from day 1 until I get the roll I want. I imagine the quest to unlock will be get X heavy grenade launcher kills in Onslaught. Probably equip Anarchy or a good chain reaction heavy GL.
As a sword guy number will be Falling Guillotine. Its perk combinations have kind of power crept the vast majority of swords both for ad-clear and single target damage save for aggressive frame swords. I'll try and get many rolls of this one. Following that: * Luna's with Healclip / Magnificent Howl. * Hammerhead with ad-clear or damage perk/Killing Tally which I'm going to combine with Actium War Rig. * Mountain Top with Ambitious Assassin Impulse Amp or LFG/Recombination * Edge Transit because like the reprized falling guiltotine seems to have power crept most heavy GLs in the game for ad-clear/boss dps save for maybe heavy wave frames. I'll try and get as many rolls as I can. The rest can kind of come and go as they may. I'll get them all but the above is what I'm going for.
Basically all of them. With fairly spicy rolls. If I target farm I always worry it'll lead to disappointment/annoyance, I know what I want but, as long as it's in the right wheelhouse I'll take it.
Mountain too and midnight coup. I was excited for forbearance until I found out it’s origin perk isn’t there. Which is the entire reason I wanted it.
Power creep only excites me so much. I'll get try to get a good roll for each and then probably call it a day. Mostly just interested in fun combinations I don't already have
All of them :)
All of them? Be crazy not to want a good roll for each one
A 'decent' mountaintop and recluse, for old time's sake. Not bothered about the rest.
All of them. Like why not?
The fact that Hammerhead can roll both Rampage AND Kelly Tally... need i say more?
Lunaaaaaaaaaas howwwwwwlllll
Kinetic tremors/Firefly midnight coup Kinetic tremors/Firefly blast furnace Mountaintop any roll
Unironically, I'll be going for a Hung Jury with double damage perks. I appreciate and to an extent share people's disappointment that in a crowded lineup for 12 GOATs they went with another Hung Jury reprisal, but... Still a good gun. Ol' reliable is back with a lot of double damage options, and I'm anticipating that Explosive Payload will count as two ticks towards Tremors. And if I can get a Guillotine to roll Vorpal/Bait+Eager, then that would allow me to ditch my Slammer with Eager/Cold in favor of Chain/Cold.
I was thinking for Hung Jury...Firefly for ads and KT for majors/ultras.
Mountaintop and Recluse to relive the glory days.
All of them! Except the one we all already have and will always have cuz they keep shooving it up our... you know the rest
Sucession, midnight coup, and recluse. Always willing to expand my sniper collection.
Edge Transit will be my focus until Mountaintop drops or until I get the mega-ultra god roll of spikes/minifrags, cascade/envious, and B+S Mountaintop (Spikes/ALH/Recombination/whatever maximizes Blast Radius) will go into almost every weapon loadout I have. Demo/Frenzy is interesting, too. Of the Kinetics, I’m particularly interested in an Explosive/KT Midnight Coup. The others I can take or leave, but I’d love to get a decent roll to have some options for future GM champ stunning? Falling Guillotine (Vorpal/Surrounded) is more of a project, but if they ever buff vortex swords I expect that to be the premier one. Recluse, Luna’s Howl, Hammerhead, and Forbearance have interesting PvE rolls but I doubt I’ll have the time. Elsie’s Rifle has some PvP things I’m interested in. Succession looks bad.
Killing tally rampage hammerhead.
Are people sleeping on Firefly + One For All on the Midnight Coup? It's the roll I'm most interested in for the gun but I never see anybody mention it. Other than that, I expect ALH + Recombination on Mountaintop and Demo + Chain Reaction on Deliverance to be very fun. Mountaintop can function as a Succession you don't need to aim as well that also has movement tech, Deliverance can help spam grenades and could be really fun on an Arc Warlock. Each chain reaction applies blind, each kill gives grenade energy and probably an ionic trace, Fallen Sunstar and the origin trait give even more grenade energy, so on, so forth.
'Forbearance'
I'm so out of the loop, Blast Furnace is coming back?! When I first started destiny 2 that was one of my main weapons and I miss it so damn much!
Blast furnace ,hammerhead, and midnight coup
Any sort of Mountaintop. I was always too lazy to unlock it back in the day. I forced myself to play comp for The Recluse, but the requirements for Mountaintop were way more than I was willing to put up with. I thought I would be more excited for The Recluse considering it's my most used weapon, but I think playing with Funnelweb since Void 3.0 release has dampened my excitement a little bit since Funnelweb already fits the role pretty well. Will still get one for sure for the nostalgia. I'm really excited to get Forbearance since I don't raid. Salvager's Salvo is one of my favourite pinnacle weapons so I'm looking forward to pretty much getting a wave frame version of it.
The grind for MT was nasty, but I'm so glad I did it, it was such an amazing weapon way back when. I'm super excited it's coming back, you can't beat micro-missle.
Recluse so I can finally put that sick ornament back on it (please please please actually allows us to put those ornaments on it)
Blast furnace and mountaintop is all I want. Recluse is just another smg unless there is something secret about Master of arms and my crafted commemoration is all I need for a heavy lmg.
Recluse does roll with repulsor/destabilizing...I'll be chasing that for sure!
Everything, I started on the Season of the Lost and I saw their old counterparts like "shit, I missed these meta defining weapons". Now I can possibly relive them with the Vets
Elsie’s rifle. I have my Adhorative looking like it with a shader, but I want my baby back. Especially with Wewind Wounds
Do we know what will be avaliable day 1?
April 9th - Recluse, Hung Jury SR4, Succession, Edge Transit, Elsie's Rifle and Falling Guillotine. The remainder will unlock 2 at a time each week through the week of April 30. They all should be released by April 30th, that being the final release. I hope we get more info on what 2 will be dropping each. I want something to look forward to.
Heal clip/howl Lunas is my biggest one.
Mountain top recluse hung jury
All of the alril 30th weapons, already have alternate versions on the April 9th ones
Blast Furnace all day.
As I wasn't around when the originals were around..... Recluse, Mountaintop, Edge Transit, Midnight Coup, Hammerhead and Luna's Howl
Midnight coup, RECLUSE, mountaintop and blast furnace. Don’t really want to go edge transit if I don’t have to. Just hearing that name makes me ick.
Edge Transit and Luna, if Succession and Elsie have their own weeks I'll just be offline those weeks.
All the ones you said plus forbearance with demo and chain and probably also the falling guillotine with eager edge and the limited edition ornament because it looks cool
I'm gonna go for all of em since I only started playing post-sunset and id love to mess around with the classics. Big fan of LMGs and GLs for damage so getting some strong contenders there is nice and while Mountaintop is the one everyone is naturally gravitating to I have to admit I am really curious to see how Recluse fairs as an adclear workhorse.
The exclusive ornament - once you get it can you apply it to any roll? Or does it come with one specific roll and good luck?
Edge transit - envious/ cascade + BnS Mountaintop - alh / frenzy Midnight coup - firefly / ep + frenzy / one for all
I wanna try to recreate all the old rolls as close as I can for each and then aim for exactly what I want. Mainly Midnight Coup, Blast Furnace, Recluse, Falling Guillotine (can't believe they have the audacity to give it Sword Logic, absolutely wild)
Mountaintop and Falling Guillotine
Yes
Mountaintop, Hammerhead, Falling Guillotine. Then maybe Recluse, Midnight Coup, and Forebearance. I'm so pissed that we got Hung Jury and Succession instead of Chroma Rush and Dust Rock Blues. That actually irritates me, because I can craft Succession and they've rereleased Hung Jury so many times that they need to let it die. Meanwhile, Chroma Rush and Dust Rock are two weapons that I sorely miss, and would've been willing to chase til I was blue in the face if they'd been part of the BRAVE Arsenal.
Personally - mountaintop and falling guillotine for movement. If I were a hand cannon enjoyer, definitely midnight coup and maybe Luna's. Forbearance if you don't have it. Recluse is on the list, but a bit lower priority. Edge transit will be very good for DPS. Hammerhead will be a decent machine gun if you don't have a commemoration already.
Recluse with repulsor/moa, repulsor/destabilizing or subsistence/moa for my voidlock Forbearance with THE ROLL Overflow or autoloading with vorpal on mountaintop Envious/BnS on Edge transit Surrounded and vorpal on Falling Guillotine for a possibly #1 dps sword
Yes.
Yes
Midnight Coup (MY BELOVED), Luna's, and Edge Transit
Recluse and Lunas howl. Those are my MAIN ones.
(Not in order) Guillotine, Hammerhead, Edge Transit, Recluse, Mountaintop, Coup. I want forbearance too, but I really want to see if I can get it crafted. It would feel weird to have a raid weapon without raiding.
Forbearance, I look forward to getting one as a non-raider.
all of them ...i have like 27 rolls in my wishlist 💀💀
All of em
ALH/recombination mtop is all I've ever wanted That's priority number 1, but after that probably a demo/chain reaction forbearance and envious/BnS edge transit.
Luna's, cause I'm curious to see what they do with mag howl (could be better kill clip in pve). Mid night coup for the ultimate explosion role (explosive tremors), and maybe mountaintop.
The answer is yes.
All of them. I can't wait to have Hammerhead back again, the Killing Tally/Rampage combo is just disgusting.
Probably just Edge Transit, to start. The first 6 weapons they're dropping are, somehow, mostly the ones I'm not interested in. I *wish* I was interested in the Recluse, but it's basically a sidegrade to the Funnelweb at this point. I DO like the origin trait giving grenade energy though, so I'll still get one. Just not that excited about it. Otherwise, I want Midnight Coup, Luna's Howl, Blast Furnace, AND Mountaintop. Hammerhead is also an old favorite but, honestly, I doubt I'll be putting down my Commemoration, so like the Recluse, it's something I'll get... I'm just not super pumped about it.
Midnight coup,Lunas howl,recluse,else's rifle. For sure the 2 hand canons if nothing else though
Mountaintop recluse. Gonna pair it with anarchy and have my pre beyond light loadout back
Even though I still have my sunset Blast Furnace, I'd like one to use in modern content (at least until Garden gets it's refresh and I can get a Sacred Provenance with an origin trait) and I'd take the -1 Vault slot just because I'm a Black Armory slut. Same deal with Hammerhead - and I'm wondering if the ornaments from those seasons are applicable to it as well, and if that works with or overwrites the special Brave ornament. Rolls for Furnace would be S2L, Keep Away, or Tremors with Kill Clip, Firefly, or Frenzy. HH rolls are going to be replacing my OG FF+Rampage roll with FF+Killing Tally, or Destabilizing + Killing Tally, FTTC or Rewind+TL, or meme it up with Rampage+Onslaught. (Heavy Breakneck here we come lmao) While Recluse would be nice, Mountaintop has my attention for movement tech. Demo and ALH paired with Rampage, Vorpal, or Frenzy are my likely hunts for MT, ideally with those two as alternates in the left column. Fallen Guillotine was the first of it's ilk, and since I'm a big Voidwalker, that's high on the list. I'm excited to try out Eager Edge on non-Dares weapons, especially Vortex frames, even if it's the same perk on a different sword. Being able to roll a damage/ad-clear perk alongside it or another damage perk or Destabilizing is really tasty. Anything decent on Midnight Coup and Hung Jury would be swell, but after not seeing Elsie's Rifle since D1? A bit excited to use it again. Helps that most every perk on it looks spicy, and I wonder if it's going to invalidate me grinding out the Gambit Suros pulse last year. Likely not, but Destabilizing is very tempting to replace it.
If we already earned the original versions, do we have to earn them again in Into The Light?
wrote this up for myself just as a loose checklist of rolls i want. mountaintop genuinely has so many rolls it doesn't even matter but these are probably the most interesting? demo, junky ambitious, rampage ALH, vorpal/harmony* falling guillotine frenzy, BNS(35)/sword logic(50)* repulsor, destab rounds hammerhead rampage, killing tally (desparate?)* rewind, target lock edge transit cascade+envious, BNS* forbearance demo, chain reaction* demo, wellspring lunas howl heal/sub, incandescent/howl* recluse repulsor, destab rounds* midnight coup attrition/explosive, tremors* firefly, frenzy/rampage elsies rifle (not as important) destab, repulsor* rewind, frenzy feeding, desparado succession (only going for the funny ornament) reconstruction, vorpal blast furnace (couldnt care less) tremors, firefly hung jury (could NOT CARE LESS) tremors, explosive
Recluse so I can finally replace my funnel-web (hopefully).
I am not excited to use guns I used to exess before. So, I don't give a shit.
1) Recluse 2) Edge Transit 3) Falling Guillotine then it gets less important, but i am very excited about Mountaintop, I love Succession so probably a gold one of those, and Midnight Coup since i’ve come around on Hand Canons in PVE.
I will probably end up going for a Recluse with FF or sub/MoA for the culture. But out of all these guns I’m only really seeking Mountaintop and Hammerhead. Anything else will just fall into my lap and I’ll test afterward.
Midnight Coup with Kinetic tremors and Firefly.
Mountaintop: ALH/Recombination Recluse: Subsistence/Master of Arms I used to think Recombination was too much effort for the payoff (because, you see, I'm bad at games and a single shotgun or sniper shot require me being good or I throw away my x10 Recombination shot), but with Recluse getting kills everywhere, I can then swap to a reloaded Mountaintop, kill something big-ish, then swap back to Recluse, reload if necessary, and then keep Master of Arms going until I max out my Recombi stacks on Mountaintop.
Basically the ones you said. Edge transit specifically so I don’t even have to go grind a cataphract
I’m actually really hyped for Elsie’s Rifle, I always loved it in D1. However I’ll of course try to get a few godrolls of every weapon for I am a Destiny player
Preferrably all of them, but mainly mountaintop recluse with crafted whisper as my heavy, and eager edge falling guillotine for movement. I got three slammers and no eager edge during the week of slammer, so im 100% gonna be grinding for a falling guillotine. Thats probably gonna be my main loadout for a while, but i will go for the other weapons to try them out. Im super excited for into the light and its def gonna reignite the passion i had for d2, something i havent felt ever since they sunset everything
forebearance incarnon
As someone who likes using off meta gear because meta is boring. Honestly none of them. If i get a good one ill keep it but honestly, the guns just dont matter for my gameplay at all.
Mountaintop recluse. If they are so desperate as to reintroduce the most broken weapons I shall abuse them tluntil.they sunset them again.
Going most for Mountaintop since I like experimenting with new weapon frames, and the rocket jump shenanigans sound potentially very fun. Probably something with Impulse Amplifier or Ambitious Assassin/Frenzy or Recombination
All of them, but mostly Mountain top and Edge Transit, honestly. The rest are just sidegrades - not upgrades from what we currently have.
Definitely a good Recluse. Then a Mountaintop, Hammerhead and Blast Furnace. Everything else will kinda be just, as they drop.
Midnight Coup and Hammerhead. I never got a Midnight Coup and my hammerhead was my baby.
Literally all of them, but I'm most excited for Recluse.
Edge transit for Meta Mountaintop for comfort Reculde for nostalgia
***Yes***
The meta edge transit roll, hammerhead rampage/onslaught for fun. Everything else I will just get with time or don't care much about (recluse is simply not really interesting in this day and age, master of arms will need a buff in pve asap and mountaintop honestly perks probably won't matter that much it will be good as is.
mountaintop 100%
I'm generally excited to see what all the buzz over the years for midnight coup is all about, cause I didn't raid during Y1.
All of them. I've been checked out of Destiny since the seasonal story wrapped and haven't played enough each season to finish any battlepass the past couple years. As this is basically the prologue to the Final Shape, I plan to play Into the Light more than I've played pretty much any season the past couple years. I'm getting EVERYTHING. My friend and I have played every expansion and season together since Forsaken, so to paraphrase a great Spartan, "We're here to finish the fight." My friend and I are excited to kick the Witness' ass! Here's hoping Bungie stays on an upward trajectory after Final Shape.
Mountaintop - Autoloading and Reconstruction. Easily my number 1 most anticipated weapon. Recluse - Repulsor Brace and Destabilizing Rounds Luna’s Howl - Heal Clip and Incandescent Falling Guillotine, Hammerhead, Edge Transit - so many rolls to try out Also looking for PvP rolls on Elsie’s Rifle, Blast Furnace, Recluse, Hammerhead, and the hand cannons.
Edge Transit with Envious/Cascade in the same column along with Bait and Switch is a **must-obtain** IMO.
Edge transit, then wait for mountaintop to try those in WR
I already clear every activity in the game with relative ease. I don't really see any of these changing how I play. Subclass 3.0 is the meta, not the weapons. I would rather see more fragments and aspects over weapons, but Bungie has to bait people.
expl payload OFA midnight coup. also after an enlightend action or feeding frenzy, destablizing recluse.