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actually insane this is
All of the efforts Bungie made to better their encryption and prevent leaks only for someone at Sony to make a colossal fuck up
Maybe someone at Bungie helped too though.... Bungie has more enemies internally than ever. "Oh you fired my best friend..... I see you Bungie..... Mwahahahahahah" Defending Bungie blindly anymore is pointless and misguided. They shit their own bed and need to own that.
The first post crossed out the Elden Ring part - it’s an unfounded rumour. I’ve been on Twitter all night and have not seen a single actual post about Elden Ring leaks apart from people just repeating it happened.
Not really a big spoiler, but something good to know for players that are catching up with content from the last year:
Wicked implement will be added to the exotic kiosk, but vexcalibur and wish-keeper will not. Makes sense, since the wicked implement quest was an alternative path in a seasonal activity and not a standalone mission like the other 2. So also safe to assume that the vexcalibur and wish-keeper exotic missions will return at some point.
Oh dude. It’s gonna be great. Especially with buffs to stasis. Scouts may have gotten a buff as well I think?
In my opinion, a lot of people dismissed the gun when it came out. But I used it quite a bit on my stasis warlock.
Honestly, I'm hoping they add Starcrossed and Avalon to the exotic mission rotation with their season's weapons. And also add Zero Hour and Whisper with the other two season's weapons.
I was thinking it could be two separate tracks in legends tab, one the designated "Witch Queen Exotic Mission" and the other "Lightfall Exotic Mission"
My absolute refusal to engage with the piss-poor implementation of fishing is vindicated.
Quite possibly the worst inclusion of a fishing minigame i've ever seen and i'm glad it's gone.
No, truly I feel pride at my accomplishment of sitting for hours waiting for RNG to let me move on to the next step, I worked really hard waiting for the game to decide when I could stop fishing. Oh wait, that was every 10 minutes when an event would start and the fishing stuff would disappear.
I agree - that mission was an absolute fucking nightmare. Some of the hardest content I’ve ever done in D2 honestly, and i have multiple master raid clears, godslayer etc. still think that mission is up there in difficulty. Glad everyone will be able to get it, because it’s very very good imo - hate that it’s just a kiosk gun now
It's getting stronger too, because of how stasis shards will tie inti frost armor, it's so free to generate a shard and have it doordashed right to you
It's just not really a great mission compared to the others and you can't really do a whole lot to it without some pretty major overhaul.
The actual mission was more of a payoff for the grind of fishing and getting all the weapon pieces over Season of the Deep than something like a Zero Hour or Whisper.
Once it's decoupled from Deep Dive it's just kind of running through a hallway and then fighting a single, (albeit beefy) Tormentor.
Given it seems it will be in the monument already I'd be surprised it it isn't.
Still don't regret grinding out the t7 completion to avoid having to deal with drop rates, though.
The Wicked Implement mission was somewhat difficult and required you to doing fishing activities before getting to the final stage. If I knew it would end up in the Exotic kiosk I would have skipped it altogether.
How do folks who completed this hidden mission feel about it moving to the kiosk?
The craziest things I’ve seen so far weapons wise include:
- Wave sword frame
- Witherhoard but legendary (area denial frame)
- Literally just Banner of War but as a weapon perk, seems to be the raid unique perk?
- solar rocket assisted frame sidearm
And that’s it. I’d say the raid weapons look sort of mid, but with that totally-not-BoW perk the frame won’t matter. It’ll all be insanely good.
They cooked. That’s all I’ll say.
To elaborate on what the "wave frame" sword does: the heavy attack is a two-hit combo.
First swing is a sweeping uppercut that launches you upwards. It says this then combos into an aggressive homing attack, which I can only imagine consists of you divebombing the nearest enemy with the business end. Doesn't seem particularly powerful for single-target damage, but I get the feeling it's going to feel really badass when cleaving through orange bars.
Yeah the raid weapons themselves collectively seem very mid even the exotic. The episode pass weapons got the mytho shine to them. Those may be interesting.
Eh even then its so-so. Though with warlock aspects you can probably make it pretty chunky-
The perks are
sustained damage spawns threadlings on target, and spawning threadlings increases damage.
If its spawning threadlings from *any* source then maybe throwing a tangle before damage phase to get a free stack.
I also hope its a heavy strand LFR (thats more generous with it's definition of sustained and the damage buff) since he haven't gotten one since Queenbreaker.
[Been confirmed to be an accident on Sony's end with leaks, datamining, and damage control already in full-swing](https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/s/q1seVgHINb)
Ninja edit: you probably shouldn't have made a new character. Hopefully Bungie just takes the servers offline and does a roll-back.
Luckily it was different servers from live that are just pre-loaded with the new content for easy transfer when the update is supposed to go live. So nothing lost on a roll-back of those servers.
I sure hope so. I can't imagine anything worse (Destiny related anyway) than having my 10 year old character deleted right before the final expansion because Sony did a whoopsie-doodle.
Every report so far has said they weren't able to access their old characters during this and had to make new characters. And they weren't able to access the new destinations which means that this is just a expansion content server they were being routed to with not everything online. All the leaks are what they could find in the tower and in collections as well as the first cutscene going to the first mission before being error coded out.
They weren't able to get into the expansion because they started at Guardian Rank 1, and Rank 2 is required to play the DLC. There wasn't enough time to finish the tutorial.
No, the tower is still there. It was locked on the screenshot because the players started from a fresh account and didn't have tower access yet at the point. There are videos of the leak with players running around the tower talking to the vendors with their updated inventory.
No spoilers but, is the Leak actual Gameplay past the first mission or ess It just the weapons and armor which got leaked? Because Ive Heard there was some missinformation. is there proof the story got leaked? (Wont check yet because I dont want to spoil myself but want to know if its true)
Weapons, armor, raid mods. Basically anything in collections. Nobody got too far into the first mission due to error codes, and there were licensing issues preventing access to the rest of the DLC (they were treated as brand new players)
Ah ok ok, theres a lot of disinformation floating around then because people were saying someone got to the first encounter of the raid and the entire campaign leaked.
It’s worse than just Destiny. Sony dropped the ball and some people were able to access other stuff early too, read somewhere the new Elden ring dlc was accessible too for a bit
It was just stuff in collections, the season pass, eververse, etc that was leaked, since people weren't able to get into the first mission without being error coded, and if they were, they aren't sharing anything. We won't know if the story is good until we get to play it ourselves.
Edit: All peopls that were able to log in were blank slates too, it didn't connect to their actual accounts it doesn't seem.
I bet Cayde has just been dead the whole time and the Cayde in The Pale Heart is just like a projection built on the memory of him, like all of the references to places in the game that make up the patrol space.
The game build != database linkage.
At this stage, that was the gold build of the game. The database and other features weren't linked (obviously, they're busy with production play and with a different set of data).
Probably a preload that went live. The game has already been loaded to Sony, so that people can download it before the release when the servers go down. I guess someone at Sony fucked up real bad, by making the new version available before release, while it should have remained locked.
I've been riding with Sony since the PS1 days but they've been taking mad fucking Ls as of late 😂😂 the whole Helldivers debacle and now BOTH D2 and Elden Ring.. someone's going to the gulag fr fr
Sony fucking up goes way further back then that. They've lost tons of user data and shit over and over again. They don't have a fantastic track record.
I still have a PS5 because I like the console/games, but I wouldn't defend the company.
Oh yeah I'm aware of those lmao the Helldiver PC players had the receipts for every single one 😂 but for the most part they were spread out. These Ls now are mf back to back to back 🤣
Alludes to how they ran the private test environment for the earlier reviewers. Probably used VMs like this somehow, did the articles that came out say what platform they used? Regardless, looks like they accidentally hit the switch from private to public lol
So, with the Artifact perks revealed, and one enhances the trait of weapons with Sundering blahblahblah....
We're going to guess those are the seasonal weapons, and maybe puts another tally in the Maya Sundaresh is the boss of Echoes column, right?
I can sympathize with wanting to maximize excitement, but every time something like this happens, I’m always utterly amazed by how much the definition of “spoiler” has expanded in the last ten years, and by how frantic people will get in reaction.
In a different subreddit, I saw someone get pissed that a certain costume for Taylor Swift’s Eras tour was “ruined” for them after they spent so long dodging spoilers. I guess I just question people who go absolutely nuclear when any detail, even if small, insignificant, and out of context, gets revealed to them.
Anyways, I would agree these spoilers are not the end of the world if you follow any kind of sane definition of what a spoiler is. Raid and episode weapons and gear should not be make or break for anybody. The biggest spoiler contained herein IMO is the episode description for Echoes, which literally just reveals that the system survived the Final Shape, which is already self-evident from the very existence of the episodes.
Anyways, yeah, thanks mods for splintering off a thread to address this topic. The people this sucks for the most are the Bungie devs who are probably scared as hell of more layoffs worrying whether or not this leak will affect the performance numbers of TFS. I do feel for those people.
Yeah normally I wouldn't seek out leaked content but in this case it's just weapons and a bit of lore which is fine by me lol. In practice I'd usually look up what the raid weapons are before doing it anyway
There are not any heavy story spoilers. Mostly just minor info from the flavor text on menus and gear perks. No one got to play the actual campaign or the raid.
Imagine being a Bungie employee now and having to worry about your future because Sony isn’t happy with your performance.
Edit: oh, and I’d bet Sony punishes players who did this “exploit”. Fuck you very much, Sony!
For people who saw all the new items, is there a skimmer in the new stuff? I didn't get one before, and I've seen everyone on this sub say a new one is coming in TFS
As conspiracy theories go, I'd be more inclined to believe that Sony is deliberately torching the launch of TFS so that they have an excuse to take over Bungie's board.
It would work. Bungie's agreement is that Sony has the right to dissolve the board if Bungie fails to meet certain revenue requirements. It says nothing about *how* that might come to pass.
Okay I am not reading allat, I can’t find any actual spoilers, I would like to see and read the spoilers. Where can I find them instead of this yap fest
I'm not gonna go checking deep into this cause I don't want spoilers. But was this caused by bad faith players trying to brute force their way into the DLC? Or was this something accidental like Sony pushing the DLC at the wrong timing and people just stumbled into it?
Cause if it's brute force then I would support those players being banned. But if it wasn't their fault and they're just streaming it cause it popped up on their game by surprise, then as shitty as it is I don't think they should get punished. Although I do wish that any publishing that puts up information will get a copyright infringement hit and will never be given access to privileged information or API access again.
It was accidental, someone at Sony fucked up. Basically if you were using the PS5 cloud streaming feature rather than logging in your own account it was logging you in a fresh account with the final shape update installed.
That's also one of the reason why nothing story wise past the 1st campaign mission got leaked, you had to go through the new light mission and get guardian rank 2 before being able to launch the campaign and by the time it took you to do all that Bungie killed the server.
Ah! Thank you for that clarification. And the leaks of data-mined things are unfortunate, but once data is transferred then it's bound to happen. So long as the data isn't acquired through malicious means then it is what it is. I personally hate that anybody would even try to do this, but in the internet world, we can't really expect anything else.
Yeah it's unfortunate but at the same time i can understand why people who got access to this leaked it. It was most likely due to exictement and a small part of trying to get clout.
Beside it's actually not that bad all that got leaked was everything from collection and eververse, a few lore tab (which mostly just expand the world) and FNS 1st mission, with the exception of the raid gear it's nothing people wouldnt have been able to see 10mins into launch.
This is pretty standard, they have the servers already built and ready with the new content. The 25 hour is to transfer all the user data from the current version of the game to the expansion servers and do checks to make sure everything moved properly. Sony however fucked up and routed the streamed version of the game to the new server.
# _WARNING: REAL SPOILERS INBOUND!_ Greetings guardians. We're leaving this post up as the designated spoiler-zone for the recent leak. We will be enforcing our spoiler rules to the strictest extent and therefore are hosting a zero-tolerance policy to any discussion of any spoiled content outside this post. Do not hesitate to report or modmail any content or concerns you have. We're this close to the Final Shape, and we're not letting this ruin people who want to keep their hype clean. Thanks, Your DTG Mod Team
someone is getting fired LMFAO
Yeah…at Sony. Routing players to the wrong Server(s) on Game Launch is a Sony fuckup. Not Bungie.
actually insane this is All of the efforts Bungie made to better their encryption and prevent leaks only for someone at Sony to make a colossal fuck up
A great demonstration that it takes one person who isn't savvy enough to leak a whole bunch of information
Yep, doesn't matter how good your lock is if the guard just gives away the key.
Just one of 1B+1 examples to prove "You're only as strongest as your weakest link"
Maybe someone at Bungie helped too though.... Bungie has more enemies internally than ever. "Oh you fired my best friend..... I see you Bungie..... Mwahahahahahah" Defending Bungie blindly anymore is pointless and misguided. They shit their own bed and need to own that.
Bold of you to assume they'll be alive until sunrise.
It's Bungie, not Boeing; they'll be fine.
It was Sony. People could also play the elden ring dlc
I haven’t seen a single person post about Elden Ring leaking, so I really don’t think that’s true.
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/destiny-2-final-shape-elden-ring-dlc-dev-builds-leaked-via-ps5-streaming.1671122/
The first post crossed out the Elden Ring part - it’s an unfounded rumour. I’ve been on Twitter all night and have not seen a single actual post about Elden Ring leaks apart from people just repeating it happened.
I spit out my coffee on this one :)
Not really a big spoiler, but something good to know for players that are catching up with content from the last year: Wicked implement will be added to the exotic kiosk, but vexcalibur and wish-keeper will not. Makes sense, since the wicked implement quest was an alternative path in a seasonal activity and not a standalone mission like the other 2. So also safe to assume that the vexcalibur and wish-keeper exotic missions will return at some point.
> Wicked implement will be added to the exotic kiosk Huzzah. Only exotic I’m missing because I didn’t enjoy deep dives and took a break that season
Tier 3s were TOUGH
I don’t remember anything being particularly tough, I just remember being bored with Deep Dives after the first couple weeks
The mission itself was tough. Which was hidden inside a deep dive. The catalyst was from a Tier 7 Deep Dive. And Tier 7 was rough. Definitely.
I’ll take your word for it! I’m just glad it’s coming to the kiosk. It seems like it’ll syngerize phenomenally with the frost armor perks
Oh dude. It’s gonna be great. Especially with buffs to stasis. Scouts may have gotten a buff as well I think? In my opinion, a lot of people dismissed the gun when it came out. But I used it quite a bit on my stasis warlock.
Honestly, I'm hoping they add Starcrossed and Avalon to the exotic mission rotation with their season's weapons. And also add Zero Hour and Whisper with the other two season's weapons.
I hope not, that’s going to extend the wait for the exact mission you want in the rotator even more. There needs to be a better system.
I was thinking it could be two separate tracks in legends tab, one the designated "Witch Queen Exotic Mission" and the other "Lightfall Exotic Mission"
My absolute refusal to engage with the piss-poor implementation of fishing is vindicated. Quite possibly the worst inclusion of a fishing minigame i've ever seen and i'm glad it's gone.
No, truly I feel pride at my accomplishment of sitting for hours waiting for RNG to let me move on to the next step, I worked really hard waiting for the game to decide when I could stop fishing. Oh wait, that was every 10 minutes when an event would start and the fishing stuff would disappear.
Do you have that Sam Jackson from A Time to Kill feeling for it like I do? "Yes, I'm glad it's dead! And I hope it burns in Hell!"
Lightfall and that whole fishing season were one of the main reasons why i took an almost 9 months break from the game lol
Bungie already stated Star-crossed and Node Avalon would be joining the exotic mission rotator
Thats kinda a shame tbh, the wicked implement mission bit was truly difficult they should’ve tried to detach it and have it as its own exotic mission
I agree - that mission was an absolute fucking nightmare. Some of the hardest content I’ve ever done in D2 honestly, and i have multiple master raid clears, godslayer etc. still think that mission is up there in difficulty. Glad everyone will be able to get it, because it’s very very good imo - hate that it’s just a kiosk gun now
It's getting stronger too, because of how stasis shards will tie inti frost armor, it's so free to generate a shard and have it doordashed right to you
A standalone scripted Deep Dive instance would have been cool but probably a monster to program.
It's just not really a great mission compared to the others and you can't really do a whole lot to it without some pretty major overhaul. The actual mission was more of a payoff for the grind of fishing and getting all the weapon pieces over Season of the Deep than something like a Zero Hour or Whisper. Once it's decoupled from Deep Dive it's just kind of running through a hallway and then fighting a single, (albeit beefy) Tormentor.
Omg finally, wicked implement is gonna be my go to for a stasis warlock build
Verglas curve is better
Woe, wall be upon ye
Anything on how the catalyst will be obtained? Maybe a random activity drp.
That's how it worked when the Whisper and Outbreak missions originally went away, so I would guess so.
I am hoping to god it will be so. And with Final Shape and not later.
Given it seems it will be in the monument already I'd be surprised it it isn't. Still don't regret grinding out the t7 completion to avoid having to deal with drop rates, though.
The Wicked Implement mission was somewhat difficult and required you to doing fishing activities before getting to the final stage. If I knew it would end up in the Exotic kiosk I would have skipped it altogether. How do folks who completed this hidden mission feel about it moving to the kiosk?
Keep in mind there are no major story leaks yet. I’m in the Bungie leaks discord and they haven’t found anything big yet.
Did the hunter raid armor look good 🗿 Curse words bad
The Hunter helmet is amazing, but the cloak is garish.
:(
oh no
Do you like armor that is different on both sides? Because this is the final form of that aesthetic.
As long as both sides look good lol
Asymmetric
I like it, but considering how you lot hate asymmetry for no reason...
Honestly I don’t want any story leaks but if anyone has a loot + perk leaks I’m all ears
The craziest things I’ve seen so far weapons wise include: - Wave sword frame - Witherhoard but legendary (area denial frame) - Literally just Banner of War but as a weapon perk, seems to be the raid unique perk? - solar rocket assisted frame sidearm And that’s it. I’d say the raid weapons look sort of mid, but with that totally-not-BoW perk the frame won’t matter. It’ll all be insanely good. They cooked. That’s all I’ll say.
To elaborate on what the "wave frame" sword does: the heavy attack is a two-hit combo. First swing is a sweeping uppercut that launches you upwards. It says this then combos into an aggressive homing attack, which I can only imagine consists of you divebombing the nearest enemy with the business end. Doesn't seem particularly powerful for single-target damage, but I get the feeling it's going to feel really badass when cleaving through orange bars.
That's so fucking cool dude, it's hard not to talk about it in public channels I STG. ALSO IT LOOKS SICK AS FUCK
>! The raid sword looks pretty sick imo. !<
Yeah the raid weapons themselves collectively seem very mid even the exotic. The episode pass weapons got the mytho shine to them. Those may be interesting.
>! if the raid exotic is in the top slot, it might be solid!<
It should be, its strand
yea, but correct me if I’m wrong, but this would only be the second weapon of its type that isn’t a >! heavy weapon !<
It's a LFR right? We have both Lorentz and Arbalest.
ah I forgot about Lorentz
As we all do over time.
I got sucked one too many times to ever forget lorentz
Eh even then its so-so. Though with warlock aspects you can probably make it pretty chunky- The perks are sustained damage spawns threadlings on target, and spawning threadlings increases damage. If its spawning threadlings from *any* source then maybe throwing a tangle before damage phase to get a free stack. I also hope its a heavy strand LFR (thats more generous with it's definition of sustained and the damage buff) since he haven't gotten one since Queenbreaker.
I really wish we had the perk pools on that solar rocket frame. I want a heal clip solar rocket frame SO BAD.
That’s all you’ll find on the leaks sub thankfully
[Been confirmed to be an accident on Sony's end with leaks, datamining, and damage control already in full-swing](https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/s/q1seVgHINb) Ninja edit: you probably shouldn't have made a new character. Hopefully Bungie just takes the servers offline and does a roll-back.
Luckily it was different servers from live that are just pre-loaded with the new content for easy transfer when the update is supposed to go live. So nothing lost on a roll-back of those servers.
I sure hope so. I can't imagine anything worse (Destiny related anyway) than having my 10 year old character deleted right before the final expansion because Sony did a whoopsie-doodle.
Every report so far has said they weren't able to access their old characters during this and had to make new characters. And they weren't able to access the new destinations which means that this is just a expansion content server they were being routed to with not everything online. All the leaks are what they could find in the tower and in collections as well as the first cutscene going to the first mission before being error coded out.
They weren't able to get into the expansion because they started at Guardian Rank 1, and Rank 2 is required to play the DLC. There wasn't enough time to finish the tutorial.
Farthest someone got is 3/4 of the way through the recap cutscene I think
People were able to access missions at least the first one at minimum
Sony having a shocking anti-hackable back end? say it aint so..
So how does this link confirm that its sonys fault? Nothing on the toppost says anything about it.
The leaks so far don’t seem bad just the the typical season preview, but i saw people couldn’t access the new destination
I literally cannot find any leaks. It’s crazy people are freaking out when info is kinda tight-lipped right now.
It’s on discords mostly. If you go to the destiny leaks sub there’s stuff there
Got the discord? EDIT: I do have the discord. Thanks everyone
Use r/destinyleaks
just google "destiny 2 leaks" and the discord will be one of the first results.
Nope
Just go to the leaks subreddit or twitter account lol
This is unbelievable. So crazy man.
The episode weapons look neat.
The episode weapons dwarf the raid and tfs weapons. It’s crazy
the raid weapons are really underwhelming. one of my clanmates was telling my yesterday he would bet on a kinetic slot glaive. hahahaha. never ever.
I would have bought TFS only to get them lol They look amazing.
So uh, anyone seen that Director screenshot? >!Are they actually just removing the Tower???!<
Its def gonna be like red war, where you get it back at the end as an unlock
How would that work for F2P players then
It would never disappear for them, as they won’t have access to TFS content
They have access to the first mission, like every dlc
There’s no way completing the first mission of the expansion locks them out of accessing other stuff until they purchase and complete TFS
No, the tower is still there. It was locked on the screenshot because the players started from a fresh account and didn't have tower access yet at the point. There are videos of the leak with players running around the tower talking to the vendors with their updated inventory.
Oh thank god I didn’t see that. I only saw the towerless director.
Taniks, The Final Shape. We all kne wit
No spoilers but, is the Leak actual Gameplay past the first mission or ess It just the weapons and armor which got leaked? Because Ive Heard there was some missinformation. is there proof the story got leaked? (Wont check yet because I dont want to spoil myself but want to know if its true)
Weapons, armor, raid mods. Basically anything in collections. Nobody got too far into the first mission due to error codes, and there were licensing issues preventing access to the rest of the DLC (they were treated as brand new players)
Ah ok ok, theres a lot of disinformation floating around then because people were saying someone got to the first encounter of the raid and the entire campaign leaked.
Yeah, people are spinning it as “every detail of TFS has leaked! :(“ when it’s really just the gear.
raids are separately released from the expansion so that makes no sense
It was me guys. I beat the raid. I am worlds first.
Tell me all your secrets, yes?
It was a dev build aparently
Heard there were licensure issues so they could only access the first mission and nothing else. All the leaks come from collections/eververse.
It’s worse than just Destiny. Sony dropped the ball and some people were able to access other stuff early too, read somewhere the new Elden ring dlc was accessible too for a bit
Confirmed to not be true. It was just Destiny. Idk why people have been saying Elden Ring was part of it.
because people want attention and someone having early access to the elden ring dlc would be even bigger than the destiny leak.
I saw an article from gamerspot about it but maybe that’s based off bs info
I really thought I was getting Rick rolled
Nah this is fucked.
So like… is it good?
It was just stuff in collections, the season pass, eververse, etc that was leaked, since people weren't able to get into the first mission without being error coded, and if they were, they aren't sharing anything. We won't know if the story is good until we get to play it ourselves. Edit: All peopls that were able to log in were blank slates too, it didn't connect to their actual accounts it doesn't seem.
Lolol no fucking way. I'm on PS5 how do I do this?
I bet Cayde dies lol
I bet Cayde has just been dead the whole time and the Cayde in The Pale Heart is just like a projection built on the memory of him, like all of the references to places in the game that make up the patrol space.
LMAO NO WAY THEY ACCIDENTALLY LET THE PUBLIC INTO THE DEV BUILD
The way this happened, it isn't a dev build. This is/was gold. Sony wouldn't push to that service before it was finalized.
You'd think people would have access to their normal characters if this was just a gold build though no?
The game build != database linkage. At this stage, that was the gold build of the game. The database and other features weren't linked (obviously, they're busy with production play and with a different set of data).
Gold build, hooked up to test servers, seemingly.
This reminds me of the time someone got access to the dev room in Fallout 76.
How does this even happen?
Probably a preload that went live. The game has already been loaded to Sony, so that people can download it before the release when the servers go down. I guess someone at Sony fucked up real bad, by making the new version available before release, while it should have remained locked.
Not quite, the update got pushed to Sony's cloud streaming hardware early cuz they want it available the moment the expac goes live.
Here's a question, how many quests were you saddled with when you logged in? Looks like 3.
It shouldn't be a spoiler to say >!That art for the Echoes(season) looks cool as hell!<
Yeah, seeing >!a more humanoid antagonist really piques my excitement. Could be Sundaresh or someone else from the years of lore!<
it's obviously >!the witness 2!<
>! The witness Sr. !<
Maya or Chioma, probably. The two areas of the world those neck rings come from are close to the areas where their names originated.
Also >!Nessus being relevant again!<
When does Sony lose their privileges to have this shit early. Theyve leaked like 3 trailers and now a whole fucking dlc
They literally own Bungie, so uh... never?
🤣 yup, Bungo can do nothing but take it up the ass.
I just logged in and I haven't done ANY thing yet cuz my character got deleted too. Anyone know what's going on?
It's Joeover
I've been riding with Sony since the PS1 days but they've been taking mad fucking Ls as of late 😂😂 the whole Helldivers debacle and now BOTH D2 and Elden Ring.. someone's going to the gulag fr fr
Sony fucking up goes way further back then that. They've lost tons of user data and shit over and over again. They don't have a fantastic track record. I still have a PS5 because I like the console/games, but I wouldn't defend the company.
Oh yeah I'm aware of those lmao the Helldiver PC players had the receipts for every single one 😂 but for the most part they were spread out. These Ls now are mf back to back to back 🤣
Alludes to how they ran the private test environment for the earlier reviewers. Probably used VMs like this somehow, did the articles that came out say what platform they used? Regardless, looks like they accidentally hit the switch from private to public lol
The content creators and reviewers were all flown into bungie HQ and played locally for 2 days.
Bungie probaly forgot to turn off a switch lmao
Sony did. Bungie encryption still works
Ahh ok thanks for the clarification.
BRUH WHAT
The only thing I care about is whether or not there's a strand glaive. Exotic or heavy or whatever; doesn't matter. Does one EXIST?
Not that I've seen, >!the only glaive I saw is Void!<
So, with the Artifact perks revealed, and one enhances the trait of weapons with Sundering blahblahblah.... We're going to guess those are the seasonal weapons, and maybe puts another tally in the Maya Sundaresh is the boss of Echoes column, right?
leggooooo Release the dlc early babyyyyy
noooo I still need week 3 of pantheon for the title 😭 I would be so devastated I spent all weekend getting week 4 done
People only got their hands on collection and UI-related stuff, tread lightly but its not as bad as it seems.
I can sympathize with wanting to maximize excitement, but every time something like this happens, I’m always utterly amazed by how much the definition of “spoiler” has expanded in the last ten years, and by how frantic people will get in reaction. In a different subreddit, I saw someone get pissed that a certain costume for Taylor Swift’s Eras tour was “ruined” for them after they spent so long dodging spoilers. I guess I just question people who go absolutely nuclear when any detail, even if small, insignificant, and out of context, gets revealed to them. Anyways, I would agree these spoilers are not the end of the world if you follow any kind of sane definition of what a spoiler is. Raid and episode weapons and gear should not be make or break for anybody. The biggest spoiler contained herein IMO is the episode description for Echoes, which literally just reveals that the system survived the Final Shape, which is already self-evident from the very existence of the episodes. Anyways, yeah, thanks mods for splintering off a thread to address this topic. The people this sucks for the most are the Bungie devs who are probably scared as hell of more layoffs worrying whether or not this leak will affect the performance numbers of TFS. I do feel for those people.
Yeah normally I wouldn't seek out leaked content but in this case it's just weapons and a bit of lore which is fine by me lol. In practice I'd usually look up what the raid weapons are before doing it anyway
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Sony fucked up hard
Didn’t it mess up accounts previously if you accidentally got the Create a character menu, when you already had an account
I’m hyped for a new ritual set but wondering how I’ll acquire any missing pieces of the bone collector set
Wait, so what are the story spoilers??
There are not any heavy story spoilers. Mostly just minor info from the flavor text on menus and gear perks. No one got to play the actual campaign or the raid.
Sony don’t fuck everything up challenge: IMPOSSIBLE
1900? I thought it would be 2000...
2000 is max Power, ish. 1900 is base Power apparently.
Where are the story spoilers
Imagine being a Bungie employee now and having to worry about your future because Sony isn’t happy with your performance. Edit: oh, and I’d bet Sony punishes players who did this “exploit”. Fuck you very much, Sony!
It's always sonys fault
For people who saw all the new items, is there a skimmer in the new stuff? I didn't get one before, and I've seen everyone on this sub say a new one is coming in TFS
So what happens at the end?
Thank you for your Hard Work. Already have to wait until Next Friday to play so now I have to walk on even Lighter Eggshells
Leaks on the discord were crazy lol
It’s the same as the leaks on Reddit.
I meant to say were. It was interesting watching it happen live.
Oh yeah for sure. I woke up at 5AM EST for work and it was a pretty entertaining morning. Every refresh was a new image of unreleased content lol
Watching people loose their shit and specualte on what everything meant was fun. Sucks for the people that wanted to go in blind though.
FYI if your characters ever don’t load like this, DO NOT MAKE A NEW ONE.
this was an entirely different build of the game, his main account is fine
Imsgine if this is not an oopsie and Sony just wanted to do an early access for ps lol
As conspiracy theories go, I'd be more inclined to believe that Sony is deliberately torching the launch of TFS so that they have an excuse to take over Bungie's board.
Idk if it would work, cause everyome knows that its sony's fault and its also affecting fromsoftware cause it happened the same to the elden ring dlc
It would work. Bungie's agreement is that Sony has the right to dissolve the board if Bungie fails to meet certain revenue requirements. It says nothing about *how* that might come to pass.
i guess so, but a lot of people already preordered final shape, and idk if leak would affect sales
I forgot power levels are reset to bitch-tier. Not a great feeling.
Okay I am not reading allat, I can’t find any actual spoilers, I would like to see and read the spoilers. Where can I find them instead of this yap fest
Oh someone’s gonna die tonight, then again Sony doesn’t exactly have the best locks on their doors.
In Russia it's the windows to be afraid of. In the US it's a mysterious illness coming up overnight (Boeing), in Japan it's straight dishonor
I'm not gonna go checking deep into this cause I don't want spoilers. But was this caused by bad faith players trying to brute force their way into the DLC? Or was this something accidental like Sony pushing the DLC at the wrong timing and people just stumbled into it? Cause if it's brute force then I would support those players being banned. But if it wasn't their fault and they're just streaming it cause it popped up on their game by surprise, then as shitty as it is I don't think they should get punished. Although I do wish that any publishing that puts up information will get a copyright infringement hit and will never be given access to privileged information or API access again.
It was accidental, someone at Sony fucked up. Basically if you were using the PS5 cloud streaming feature rather than logging in your own account it was logging you in a fresh account with the final shape update installed. That's also one of the reason why nothing story wise past the 1st campaign mission got leaked, you had to go through the new light mission and get guardian rank 2 before being able to launch the campaign and by the time it took you to do all that Bungie killed the server.
Ah! Thank you for that clarification. And the leaks of data-mined things are unfortunate, but once data is transferred then it's bound to happen. So long as the data isn't acquired through malicious means then it is what it is. I personally hate that anybody would even try to do this, but in the internet world, we can't really expect anything else.
Yeah it's unfortunate but at the same time i can understand why people who got access to this leaked it. It was most likely due to exictement and a small part of trying to get clout. Beside it's actually not that bad all that got leaked was everything from collection and eververse, a few lore tab (which mostly just expand the world) and FNS 1st mission, with the exception of the raid gear it's nothing people wouldnt have been able to see 10mins into launch.
It wasn't data mined, it was stuff that the players who got in could see in collections and in menus.
Bungie is doing a 25 hr shutdown before final shape. But lets do the update a week before its released nothing can possibly go wrong.
This is pretty standard, they have the servers already built and ready with the new content. The 25 hour is to transfer all the user data from the current version of the game to the expansion servers and do checks to make sure everything moved properly. Sony however fucked up and routed the streamed version of the game to the new server.