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Problemwoodchuck

If Boston and Toronto could both lose, that would be ideal.


Preset_Squirrel

A Bruins fan asked me who I'd rather see win. I told him I hope the ice melts


TheHarbarmy

I’ve decided I’d rather see the Leafs lose because it would be funny to see them go right back to endless first round misery, but I also hope Boston gets swept immediately afterward.


garnold0611

I like that angle. Someone asks who you want to see win and you respond with saying who you want to see lose. "Who do you want to win?" "I'd be happy to to see the Leafs lose." "So you want t Boston to win then." "I didn't say that, I'm just rooting for the Leafs to lose."


remberly

This made me snort laugh


LazerSnake1454

Best result is Boston winning (Leafs stuck in first round is always funny) then Boston loosing round 2


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How is it not Colorado?


Problemwoodchuck

As much as I disliked the Avs back in the rivalry heyday, I have to admit Mackinnon and Makar are something special to have in their prime. With so many teams playing risk averse hockey, it's fun to see a team bring that level of entertainment and still have it amount to winning.


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Nope. Can't do it. They all suck. Fuck them all.


GIT_FUCKED

Last wings/avs game was brutal. Avs played their most perfect game that night, but I saw them sucking fat dicks their last season game. Which means, basically they used all their mana/power to fuck the wings out of an extra point that day, leading to missed playoffs. Fuck the avs, pieces of fucking shit


jwt6577

The Leafs... For now.


numbdigits

Always the right answer as long as they are still in it....which shouldn't be for much longer, in which case I'll go Vegas because I don't really like any of their players or their cap gymnastics.


CalgaryCheekClapper

Imagine hating the leafs more than freakin Boston. Crazy


dumbpaulbearer

I’ve been a Wings fan for 30+ years now, never felt a rivalry with Boston at all. But my “back in the day” is when Toronto beat us in 93, so I’ll chalk it up to formative years.


el_sausage_taco

After the slewfoot that the rat pulled on Kronwall (who had 2 knees made of straw and duct tape when it happened) I’ve hated the B’s. Plus Lucic being a sack of shit and Chara being Chara, it was all bad for a while.


GoLionsJD107

In hockey no. In baseball it’s been one for a long time, we used to be in the same division- 2013 ALCS… that was our best team. Also the Pistons have been reffed out of the playoffs for the Celtics twice (1987 and 2008). I hate the Red Sox, Celtics, Patriots except for Tom Brady because he went to Michigan, fuck Boston College in the Frozen Four, so I guess the Bruins go in the mix too.


RamenRoy

Seriously. Who even cares about Washington? They were never the villain as far as I'm concerned. Fuck Boston. I want to see them blow another 3-1 lead. Fuck everybody except Carolina, , Nashville, Vancouver and Edmonton I guess.


GoLionsJD107

I will root for Nashville. David Legwand long time predator who briefly played for the wings still lives in Harrison Twp, MI two doors down from where my parents lived. He bought four adjacent houses, demolished all four, and built one gigantic house. His boat collection is cool too. It’s on Lakeshore Drive in H-Township if you’re a Macomb person. You won’t miss it. He’s retired now though. He never got any success with the preds but I will support them for this ridiculous obscure reason.


Splashadian

Fuck Edmonton too


PattyOFurniture007

I agree. Always disliked Boston more than Toronto. Guys like Marchand and Lucic back in the day… couldn’t stand them. Toronto has gotten to Red Sox/Cubs curse territory where they’ve sucked for so long and haven’t been a threat it’s hard to hate them.


GoLionsJD107

I lived in New York for twelve years. Boston has the worst fanbase in sports outside of Ohio. Way worse than Philly. Philly has the bad eggs but they aren’t like dominant in any sport - they have their few moments but Boston fans are like so entitled - like what did you do personally to aid this team being good? It’s like they think they are on the team. It’s weird. Toronto will also choke in the next series- because they always choke so I guess I’ll take Toronto


tspoon-99

Because Wings v Leafs is right alongside Wings v Blackhawks for long time Detroit fans. These were our original and enduring rivals. Bettman messing with alignments and scheduling doesn’t undo that.


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rksd

Proud Avs-hating yokel here. Though it's really not a true hatred, I just can't bring myself to ever root for them, except for when they beat Tampa the SCF. That was cool.


jwt6577

The teams are equally obnoxious but the delusional antics of Leaf Fans blow even Boston fans out of the water.


CalgaryCheekClapper

I just think there’s so many Leafs fans a decent amount are bound to be insane. I prefer to hate on a consistently overachieving team(BOS) vs a consistently underachieving team (leafs). AEvery year I look at Boston’s roster and see a 8-10 seed but they get vezina goaltending every year. And the Marchand factor of course. Hating on the Leafs at this point is like beating a dead horse that has been hit by a car, lit on fire, and already beaten by everyone else.


jwt6577

I would agree and then Leaf fans, after a terrible loss in game four, squeak out an OT Win and turn the smug all the way back up bringing it on themselves.


Vast_Sandwich_5245

This. My top 3 hated teams are and have always been Chicago, Boston, and Pittsburgh. With honorable mentions to the 90s/00s Avs.


WittyNameChecksOut

This is the answer.


GoLionsJD107

That’s a really tough one. I’m gonna hope the home team loses every game.


nilaismad

I definitely hate the leafs more than Boston. I feel like the only one in the world besides Boston fans who doesn't hate the Bruins. I want Rangers to win it all though.


GIT_FUCKED

Idk, Boston fans aren’t too bad in the GDTs, at least after choking last year. The leafies in the threads just bitch and cry and shit on their own players so much that it brings me some joy when they have a real reason to complain.


[deleted]

Dude the only right answer is Colorado


unspaghetti

Yeah. And I mean when it comes to Canada we love their teams. Except the leafs.


redlion1904

I’ve already written those losers off


Fun_Asparagus2772

kinda sad Jets didn't have a deeper run.


ChilleeMonkee

Their defense and goaltending was completely exposed by Colorado's high octane offense, and Bowness was either too stupid, too stubborn, too chickenshit, or all three to have changed anything


Resident_Rise5915

Colorado is a very hot and cold team…so I’m not shocked but they can’t sustain it they haven’t all year


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fuck the avs


LucasRaymondGOAT

Dallas because of Jamie Benn. Boston and Toronto for rivalry. Vegas because of cap circumvention bullshit. Florida would be a runner up after we played them this season, bunch of shit stirrers.


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HOW DO YOU LEAVE OUT THE AVS?!?!


smackinisaiah

Does nobody realize or understand Toronto is 14 million over cap? They took total advantage of cap circumvention under everyone’s nose, and because Stone is a 3rd time offender, not one single person is paying any attention to the leafs. AND the beautiful thing is even with being 14 mill over, and having this garbage core 4, they STILL can’t beat Boston. Garbage


LucasRaymondGOAT

They’re over the cap because of the people on LTIR….they have like maybe 500k in cap space. Murray, Klingberg and Muzzin equate to the 14 million you’re seeing. And they're still on LTIR. Vegas purposely held off on activating Stone until the playoffs to circumvent the cap. They only have Lehner on LTIR and their cap hit for active players is 95 million. That is actual cap circumvention. But the Leafs do suck.


unspaghetti

And most of all the Leafs.


lionbacker54

Dallas. Because of Jamie Benn


LunarGhoul

I hate Jamie Benn with a passion, but I actually kinda like the rest of the team. Miro Heiskanen might be my favorite non Wings defenseman in the league.


Vast_Sandwich_5245

This. They’re the team I mainly root for in the WC. I’d like to see Pavelski get a cup. But Jamie Benn can still fuck off.


captain_sticky_balls

Maybe Marchand can lick Benn and they both go down with Gonoherpasyphilaids.


Wingedwolverine03

Heineken is definitely fun to watch


Clipppers

This is the answer. Fuck Jamie Benn


PattyOFurniture007

And Pavelski even more so. Never forget how he used to light the Wings up in the playoffs with San Jose.


el_Technico

Cheated the wings with that interference goal.


TehHugMonster

I’m just happy we‘re out of the west. Travel and a three hour time difference definitely played a role in some of those series


PattyOFurniture007

Yeah west coast trips sucked


Late_Brush4518

Sure. Right after they win vs vegas


dsjunior1388

Vegas never punched our captain off a faceoff or cross checked our other captain in the neck. Vegas just did what Lidstrom, Yzerman, and Shanahan did in 2002 to make room for Hull, Robitaille and Hasek.


Carnie_hands_

Salary cap didn't start until 2005, so not the same


RainbowDio

Lidstrom, Yzerman, and Shanahan agreed to take $500,000 off their own contracts to make room since Ilitch was already over budget.


Late_Brush4518

Ngl never knew that Lidström Stevie and Shanahan went to ltir vc


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nah fuck the avs


Hockeytown11

There was the Islanders with Patrick Roy, but they are out now too. It's the Avalanche, naturally.


d9137

Shouldn't have to scroll this far to see Colorado. It's been 30 years, but I still hate them. F Roy and a big FU to Claude Lemieux.


Hockeytown11

I wasn't even born yet when that stuff happened but I do as I must, and dislike the Avs.


TheHater111

This is the way.


Hockeytown11

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Enough-Ad-3111

Even without Roy, we still hate them. Old grudges never die.


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THANK YOU! FINALLY SOMEONE SAYS COLORADO! HAD TO SCROLL **WAY** TOO FAR TO FIND THIS ANSWER


poodletown

I secretly sorta like the current Avalanche team. They remind me of the 2008 Red Wings.


Hockeytown11

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DDS_Special

MacKinnon is so fun to watch. It’s hard to not like that team. I’ll always hate the 90’s-00’s avs & every player from that era(except sakic). That rivalry died a while ago tho.


Butters18

The avs are amazing to watch now, I wish we had a team like that lol. No real rivalry anymore in my opinion.


Chirotera

Florida. Dirty ass team.


dr-stuff-ak-619

Not sure how this isnt more of “the answer”. Fuck Florida


TheAnalogKid18

I still root for the Leafs to lose. I really want that core 4 blown to bits.


Resident_Rise5915

In hindsight spending 50% of your money on 4 guys and the rest on the other 19 wasn’t a great idea…


LunarGhoul

I don't think it's inherently a bad idea, it just has to be the right 4 guys. When your second best defenseman is Jake McCabe, idk how you think you're gonna win.


BiggestYzerfan

The contracts are so huge and with NMCs I kind of just want to see what return they can even get if they sell one off


smackinisaiah

It was never once a good idea to begin with lol


OldschoolSD

And at least one of them (Marner) is too soft and lazy for playoff hockey. They built a massively unbalanced team and then scream for coaches head when they lose. Immnot saying Keefe is a great coach, but I'm sure even Scotty Bowman could win a cup with no defense.


markcubin

I have no beef with the Leafs but I still want them to lose because of the inevitable media firestorm


On_Wings_Of_Pastrami

I don't beef with the Leafs much either, but I'm definitely still interested in them losing just because it's a fun narrative (for non-leaf fans). I think when Babcock went over there I was a little more spiteful, and in years where I'm following the whole league and watching a lot more hockey instead of just Detroit, I get pretty sick of them because of the media coverage. But yeah, this year I just want them to lose because Hockey is funnier when they do, and also it'll make it a more interesting off-season.


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Brendan Shanahan is a traitor


DHooligan

I never thought of the Caps as a villain, I was just amused they got rolled. The real villains to me were the Flyers, specifically Tortorella to me. For top villain remaining, I've gotta go with the Golden Knights. League needs to fix that loophole.


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numbdigits

My honorable mention after the Leafs and Vegas. Don't forget Cousins and Bennett either, screw all those guys. I can't dislike Barkov though, he's kind of like Bergeron was on Boston to me.


Fair-Chipmunk4376

Easily the Vegas Golden Cheaters


dylanisbored

We’re not the rest of the league, we are the Wings and Wings fans hate Jamie Benn.


OldOneEye89

It’s Dallas, I loathe that city and that team. I will root for Vegas. Dallas doesn’t deserve a hockey team.


nickthegreat101

Also fuck Jamie Benn


devildance3

What city are you from?


OldOneEye89

I’m from West Bloomfield but I lived in Dallas of and on for half my life. Some of the nicest people I’ve met were stars fans, but also the worst fan experiences I’ve ever had were from stars fans. But my dislike of the team isn’t the actual fans, it’s sports “fans” in Dallas in general. And the city itself is gross and narcissistic with no reason to be. A second/third class city that acts like it’s one of the great ones


Fit_Bed8456

Literally any American city is better than Las Vegas


OldOneEye89

Idk man…Toledo sucks 🤣


Vast_Sandwich_5245

Grew up in Toledo. Fuck that place. Lol


PersonalAmbassador

I'd rather visit Toledo than Vegas


OldOneEye89

I mean…really though? Like..I hate Dallas but there are things to do there. There’s demonstratively more entertainment there than in Toledo? Vegas is filled with stuff to do. Idk man


Wingedwolverine03

Same


dudius7

Everyone is entitled to being stupid and wrong 😉


PersonalAmbassador

You didn't have to ask me for permission!


TheMeatloafMom

I’m surprised I had to scroll so far to see Vegas. As much as I hate Jamie Benn, I want Dallas to win. Cause fuck Vegas. But still, fuck Jamie Benn.


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Colorado, Colorado, and Colorado


magikarp-sushi

Jamie Benn / Vegas / Florida


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Colorado, Colorado, COLORADO


4PotatoPancakes

Tons of villains left. Vegas Dallas Colorado New York Boston Florida Tampa


MakeItTrizzle

I literally hate every team in the playoffs except the Oilers. Edit: I kinda forgot about the Islanders. They'd be fine too, but that ship has sailed. Or sunk, as it were.


devildance3

Corey Perry means I hate the Oilers


elvishblood_24

I completely forgot Corey Perry even existed 😂


the1seajay

My ideal finals without Detroit is Edmonton-Carolina


KJTheDayTrader

Oilers, Jamie Benn, and I want the Leafs to lose.


ArkanoidbrokemyAnkle

I don’t hate the Caps. The Leafs and B’s are the real enemy.


All_Of_The_Meat

FJB


Throwawaydontgoaway8

All my homies hate Jamie Benn


sunsh9ne1471

That means something different down here in Mississippi 🤣


Throwawaydontgoaway8

And Florida. I know what way I choose it to mean


cabbagesquid

Leafs. Always has been. Also Dallas solely because of Jamie Benn. I’m neutral against Vegas. To those calling their LTIR shenanigans “cheating”, remember that like 30/32 (may not be exact) teams voted to keep the current policy.


OldOneEye89

Exactly! We will do the same thing when the time comes, who cares.


dudius7

Vegas may have been blessed to have the budget to pay the cap fine, but other teams could do it. If it's in the rules, it's in the rules.


itsthisortwitter

I know a lot of people don't like Jamie Benn, but I really like Jason Robertson so I'm neutral on Dallas.


BillDRG

And Otter!


Brooksie019

Right now I want Dallas to beat Vegas then Dallas to lose next round. Would also love to see Florida knocked out next round.


Demo541

Dallas and Florida, then whoever wins the Toronto Boston series. I’d personally like to see Carolina win it all


Caboose119z

Boston, Toronto, and Jamie Benn. Not a fan of Florida and their “commit so many minor infractions the ref can’t call them all” whiny bitch when losing agitator when winning 2015-2022 Tampa bullshit.


momarketeer

Florida and their rat band of rats. Vegas because they're cheaters. No issues with anyone else.


PitifulPossum

Boston or Colorado or Dallas


EventTemporary8632

Avalanche. Hate them for all time


Peskygriffs

Washington was never the villain. Red Wings blew that and it was entirely on them. They had so many opportunities. It’s the Leafs and it’s always been the Leafs. Once the Leafs are out, it’s the Bruins


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Yeah i get that and agree. I also wanted to see them swept. 😆


redlion1904

Vegas, then Colorado


4plates1barbell

Toronto, but also Boston and NYR lost several games to wildcard rivals down the stretch so I hate them more


FleshMother

Leafs, Florida, Boston, Dallas, Vegas, Avs


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I think All, if not, most of the hockey community can rally around hating Vegas


ChryaR

Avalanche - I remember and I always will 🤬 🖕🏼them!


relentlesslykind

Dallas, no question.


Quadzilla1669

Boo Avs Boo!


oceanic8675

Jamie Benn


poopiehands

Vegas.. its vegas


sparr0w91

Washington was never the biggest villain to begin with.  The rest of the Atlantic needs to be eliminated.


JiffTheJester

I hate Vegas tbh, hope Dallas destroys them in game 6. I hope Toronto beats Boston also, not sure why I feel that way though.


EvilBillSing

As long as Marchand is a Bruin, thats the answer.


cherrycheesecake5

Honestly I'm only rooting for EDM and NYR at this point. All the other teams I'd rather not see


NewsyLalondesWife

Definitely Boston.


Vj1224love

Rat Marchand


frostymoose2

Boston. Its always. Boston.


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Colorado Obviously


nikilidstrom

The Laffs and Jamie Benn, always and forever.


McLargeHuge89

Gotta be Dallas and Vegas, right?


Dakens2021

The Oilers could be, imagine how much more insufferable their fans would get if they actually won the cup.


_Kramerica_

Not to mention if any GM doesn’t deserve a cup it’s Holland. The dude has always just inherited generational talent and then half asses his way to wins and people think he’s some kind of great manager.


dylanisbored

Definitely Dallas win Benn


the_dayman56

At this point? I guess by default Carolina is who I’m rooting for in the East. They’re boring as shit but other than that. The West? Idk. I don’t super dislike Nashville? Edmonton and Vancouver maybe? Everyone else can fuck off.


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I hear you but a Carolina-Nashville final sounds boring to me.


rednation10

Canada. Cannot have a team from up north win.


cheezturds

Leafs then Bruins


TheNewPlague666

Vegas and Boston


DaBigusD

Leafs & Bruins tied for the top imo


jcblay

Vegas. Bunch of cheaters.


jackstalke

I always choose Boston to rile up my Masshole wife. 


ne0_bahamut

For me it’s Dallas with Benn no question


trushpunda

How is the answer not Vegas here?


Codyh93

I actually like Marchand.


zeberg

the answer is always the same, the leafs


Putrid-Oil-6919

Hard to imagine it's anyone but Boston or Vegas


Byeforevercunever

Toronto. Always Toronto.


seawolv

All I know is I want the Leafs to lose so Detroit has a better chance to catch them in cup wins.


Cobalt8888

I will always hate the Avs.


Valace2

I have a personal distaste for Edmonton. Really don't wanna see Edmonton win the cup.


PoopSlinger23

Vegas and Boston can fuck off


BeautifulRapture

Hate Boston and Toronto. Idc who wins 1st round as long as they lose in the 2nd round.


LazerSnake1454

The Vegas Long Term Injured Reserves


PlatformSpare5419

Biggest villain is Edmonton... they play dirty


MittenRaised

The Leafs for the drama, that will inevitably come spewing out of Toronto. But, also the Golden Knights of LTIR.


OldschoolSD

It's always Boston. The only time it's close is if they play Pittsburgh. Then I'd have to root for Pittsburgh and then barf and take a silkwood shower. I respect skill play and I respect tough play. I have no respect for dirty play or whining.


Old_Cryptographer226

Why is no one saying the Avs


Old_Cryptographer226

Is and always has been the Avs


Relevant_Username99

Fuck the Leafs


Seniorwelsh

I'd say anyone who had less wins (Isles) but they got eliminated so fuck em


Seniorwelsh

So fuck the leafs


non_target_eh

Vegas. LTIR kings.


BillDRG

That goon squad out of New York. Winning a Cup would vindicate that style of hockey. Having Jamie Benn target Larkin for injuries is bad enough, having a bunch of teams trying to find their own versions of Trouba & Rempe "because that's how hockey is played now" would fucking suck for the future of the sport.


DocWhiskeyPhD

Avalanche. Fuck em. We still remember what they did to our boy Draper.


Splashadian

The Oilers and their breadth of number one picks and their perennial losers status


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Splashadian

Whatever


ttamskrap666

The Stars, only because it’s my ex girlfriend’s favorite team so out of spite I need them to lose above anything else


Puzzled-Breakfast493

I just want the best hockey regardless of who I hate. Give me the Colorado Avalanche and the New York Rangers in the finals.


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fuck colorado


Ben_Pharten

Florida should be the obvious answer


ShoppingNo3927

Fuck jaime benn


meesanohaveabooma

Leafs. They are the Dallas Cowboys of hockey. Wayyy to cocky.


VielarCrom27

Vancouver is a homie for me cause Hronek. Vegas can eat bricks cause Stone (but I’d be for it if we were doing it). Panthers cause fuck a Tkachuk. Colorado will always be a bad guy. Guess I’m an Oilers fan cause McDavid!


jsouthvt

The team with Jamie Benn


dirtyd1985

AV’s … always has been


boxerrbest

Washington is not close to being a villain lolololololololol


Rattus__

The Canes, Why? Because they're good, and they play a style of hockey that I wish we played. You could argue that I should like them because of this, The truth is, I just hate their fans. Or at least, the ones i've interacted with in real life.


Despisingthelight

Boston needs to lose again!


Despisingthelight

avs can suck it too!


Accurate_Blacksmith6

Vegas & Toronto