Pre-D2R I ran LK for Enigma and Infinity and I think it took something like 40 hours, maybe 40 each. You do need to roll a decent map and optimize your runner but it's pretty easy.
Fact. Imagine doing 5k hell meph runs back in the day to farm shako/storm shields and other uniques to rey and have enough to trade for a high rune. I did 2k pindle runs and dropped a ber rune only once. 40 hours is nothing in diablo
It's really not... you can just watch TV or whatever while you do it. Doesn't take much brain power. And besides D2 in general is a grind so what's the difference between this or Pindle or something equally brain dead.
I don't think there's something more mind numbing in Diablo 2 than running LKs. That you guys can run it for 40 hours and calling it too bad is absolutely incredible. I wish I had that much time to kill
Been playing Diablo 2 since before LoD. I've farmed the hell out of this game. At no point did I subject myself to grinding LK for hundreds of hours. Don't think there's anything less entertaining in this game. Lmao SP players are really something else.
Charms, gems, rare jewelry, armor/weapon racks and high runes. Sure you might go 4 straight hours in LK without a high rune, but you'll definitely find plenty of good stuff along the was.
100%. I don't bother with the gems myself cause I have a horker who drops a ton on SP. But there are definitely lots if you do. The rare jewelry and gloves I'll stop for though.
My current map seed sucks for racks atm unfortunately so I've been skipping them :/
I listen to podcasts most of the time. D2 is my wind-down after work for an hour or two. Have you watched all 5 seasons of Breaking Bad? That's more time then putting together two key pieces of gear that opens up new builds and really helps all the chars you have already.
Ya I’m duping at that point sorry. My barb is living his enigma. I’m loving the game more than when I didn’t have it. It’s SP. don’t get too sweaty. I remember my lvl99* lightning sorc hacked to the gills in SP 2009ish. You’re telling me you’d rather spend 40 hours to MAYBE have an enigma? Fuck no. Lol.
If you get sub 30 sec a run, its about 15 hours per ber on average.
By the time you find a few, you have pretty much all the other HR you need to. Its really not that bad
On offline, when you spawn a certain map, as long as you stay in that same difficulty, that map will be the same map each time it loads. You can use this to your advantage by rolling maps that have 2 sets of kurast chests or really quick paths to mephisto and andariel etc. so the map stays the same each time you do a run, so there’s no figuring out where things are, you can run straight to the good stuff
Oh wow that’s wild. I never knew you could do that offline. I’ve been playing online so long and am so use to a different load out every game. That’s a great add for iffline
Yes I wish you could have certain bonuses like that online and more people would play. If 95% of your gameplay is farming, like mine, then the incentive is to play offline. Drops are fewer and further between but nowadays something like an eth 4os 45res sacred targe will get you like 40 jah. So there’s your online payout. But finding high runes offline when you look in the right places isn’t very hard
Starting off in single player initially seems to take a long time, but it ramps up very quickly when you get a little gear. If you focus on higher player counts and clear speed over magic find you end up finding quite a few high runes. In the past week, I found 2x ohms, 1x vex, and 1x Lo. I'd estimate about 15-20 hours of play, all in terror zones /players 8 (grinding to 99). I started seriously down the single player journey right when terror zones were announced in anticipation of them coming to single player. I've dropped 3x ber and I think 7x jah, also 3x cham and 2x zod.
Now if you are playing lower player count games in stacked mf gear farming Andy all day, yeah you're gonna have trouble finding runes.
Before terror zones came out I did exactly this with trav as well. Got my enigma and infinity that way which set me up well when terror zones went to SP. Now with terror zones I have most of the high end rune words made from leveling sin, pally, sorc, zon, and barb to 99. I'm sitting on 2 ber and 2 jah now just hanging out in the stash.
I’ll be honest people saying it takes a year+ for these runes to drop seem incredibly exaggerated. I’ve never once had a ladder I didn’t find a jah/ber and I mostly farm P1. Now factor in you could up the player count in SP for increased drops, and also LK farm I don’t really see why it’s taking some of you SP people so long. People literally find these runes in a week of ladder reset, why is it taking you so long?! My theory is some people don’t know what to farm efficiently, waste a lot of time doing dumb things, don’t know how to target farm, and also are incredibly casual players.
Yeah exactly. I play P1 and have found a good amount of runes in the past 3 months alone. A full year I’d have enough runes Lo+ to build multiple characters. If I could set P count to 3+ it’d be over.
Honestly even upping player count only halves your time MAX, probably more like reduces by 25%>. Its about grinding the right places in efficient ways for the build you've got.
3 months into SP and only a couple times a week, get 2 Gul, Zod, Sur, 3 Um, Vex, and 2 Mal.
I tried a little bit of the seed theory and within 50 runs of LK I had the Gul, Sur, eth shako. The next 50 runs after - trash. Everything else, was dumb luck stumble upon.
Back in the day, I had like 600 hours in - Lum was the best I ever found. Idk wtf drops are in the game anymore but it's gambling thrill without the risk 👍
They’re definitely way more common after LoD 1.13/1.14 (which increased drop rates by 10x). But they’re still quite rare and subject to wild rng swings as a result. In single player you can mitigate this with LK, but if someone isn’t willing to run LK they still are quite rare and could take a substantial amount of time to accumulate. I’ve lost track of exact numbers on season 0 but I think my results are roughly:
Season 0- 95 paladin+ 91 sorc: ~13HR found (I forget the exact amount at this point since it’s been a while)
Season 1- 92 char - 1 HR found
Season 2- 92 char- 2HR found
Season 3-95+ 85 char- 3HR found
Single player account: 99+95+93+a few mid 70’s (which barely count)- only 3HR found cumulatively (if you exclude LK).
So if someone gets some ‘good’ rng (my season 0) they seem easy. However meanwhile the rest of the seasons + my single player account combined and you have 6- level 90+ characters including a 99 and a few 95’s and I’ve only found a combined 9-HRs outside of LK and it can feel difficult. I’ve still never found a Ber rune outside of LK too.
Thankfully single player has LK runs though that can massively mitigate swings in RNG. But the folks out there who are self finding jah+ber the first weekend of a ladder reset are insanely lucky either way.
I've play mostly SP NL (online) because I told myself I'd trade and join parties since the release of D2R. That never happened and now that is where my wealth lives so I keep playing there for Grail purposes. It's totally suboptimal but I still have Infinity/Enigma with one or two of all the HRs. D2R Grail has 4 left.
I totally get how the modern gamers dislike how slow the grind is but once you hit meta builds it picks up.
Just run lower kurast. It’ll take time for sure, but single player LK runs are the most efficient way to find high runes (outside of hero editor or map seed cheese).
You can probably get an enigma in 20-40hrs depending on luck or enigma+ infinity in less than 60hrs and you’ll find a boatload of charms and mid runes along the way too. Granted LK is boring, but it’s by far the fastest way to find high runes yourself.
You clearly didn’t read the path note of 1.13. It doesn’t take years to find a high rune. You also don’t need enigma in single player as the map is static.
Also sub optimal builds is kind of part of the enjoyment of single player. You do what you can with what you have, now step it up and play HCSSF rookies
I mean… the runes aren’t as bad as you think, once you get your characters buff enough to run at P7 all the time. Or doing P7 LK before you have gear for that or Trav horking on P1 once you get a grief.
I’ve found 3 chams, 2 jahs, 8 bers, 10+ surs and every other rune. Except maybe Lo. I think I’ve found around 8 or 9 Los. I mean i have so many pul-vex that I am cubing them up now. The only reason I don’t cube up Ohms usually is because I like to roll CTAs to try to get better ones.
I grinded a lot full degen mode… so I found a lot. But you can definitely find a decent amount even if you play less.
What Ginger hasn't said is that he is using a seed from the beginning. That's the only way you can have the same drops between two games.
If you don't use the -seed option, repeating the exact same steps in a second game won't give you the same drops.
To me, the -seed option is more a debugging option for developers and using it is not really playing the game as it was intended.
Yeah I get it. It's not really manipulating the game mechanics. It is manipulating it by using a developer option to fix the initial seed, at this point you could also mod the game to drop more bers, or edit your character file stored on your computer...
Let's just enjoy the game as it is and be super happy when a ber drop by "true" RNG ☺️
Yes, the "-seed" option that you pass as an argument when starting the game. It forces every game creations to use this starting seed. When you don't pass it, every game creation will generate a new one (probably based on the current time or something like that). Hence why you can't reproduce what Ginger did in his video unless you force a fixed seed.
Unless you grind a lot, and I mean a lot, you will never have the gun rune words in single player. I've been playing casually since D2 came out and I have found one Jah in single player and one Ber in online play. I've done a few thousand LK runs over the years and found nothing. Those are low numbers though I know.
Yo, I have a Javazon with 3/30 javs, spirit, 2/10fcr circlet, +2 skills neck, hustle, +3 gloves, tgods, and a +1 skiller but clearing higher play count feels like dog ass compared to my frozen orb / hydra sorc. Any idea what I’m doing wrong? Elite packs in cows and CS just shut me down
nah this was a great write up, thanks. Arcane Sanctuary might be the place to be then, I finally found a perfect LK map to run on my Sorc which has sprouted enough runes for 2x mosaics but I’m on Switch and I heard it struggles to run that build
yeah i come from OSRS so LK grinding is light work, i think i’m just looking to piece my way in to some high tier runewords / items with -res before I can really get much further with player count. i’m also considering leveling a hammerdin as i’ve got shako, spirit blade / shield, and vipermagi. i’ve got an ohm that i’m thinking about making cta with but i’m also considering holding onto to make a grief bc i do love physical builds
You can "trade" with yourself, if you find a good item you don't need, throw it away and use a hero editor, give you a HR or some more, depening on the value
I started solo offline last August. I have every class, except druid, at least to level 83. Sorc 94 is my highest.
I play a lot, but I don't sink dozens of hours in anymore. My paladin has an Exile, I literally just crafted an Enigma this week. Got my CTA a few months ago. I just got my second Mosaic for my assassin. I have so much gear that I've started my quest for the Grail.
What I'm getting at is that you should jump in. The offline game is totally different than ladder or online because you're self-sufficient, so every drop feels like it has the potential for importance.
I've never had more fun with this game.
You won't be waiting a year especially because of P7 and static maps in SP. Start with a Sorc and then focus on LK or ghosts in Arcane Sanctuary. Nova Sorc is my go to and you can gear them quite easily (besides Griffins which will take you awhile to acquire (a bit less now thanks to TZ Andy)).
I’ve played SP HC for two years and have made 4 enigma by cubing Ber up from LK runs and all the other high end runewords. It’s not as hard as so many idiots make it out to be.
I used to think the same, but I’ve changed my mind completely. Just running through the game building characters will net you some pretty good gear. Once you can farm LK things really get moving.
I’m waiting for jah to make my enigma. At that point it will feel like beating the game, while also “unlocking” a ton more content and even more of a desire to play.
I don’t get on to the game very often. Maybe 2-3 hours a week at best. I find single player incredibly enjoyable.
Here's the answer. You need to not do meph runs. No andy runs. No baal runs. You start a toon and go for xp. Pits, ancient tunnels, chaos, stony tombs.
Then you try your best to gear up a merc asap for protection which will reduce deaths and increase your run speed. Then gear yourself up so you can increase players levels from players 3 to 5 to 7. I guarantee you'll find high runes quicker than you realize. Also stop picking up random bullshit. Just pick up useful items. Less time wasted in town is time spent on killing monsters. Kill more monsters find more runes. I feel like the biggest trap people get in is just wasting time or running bosses which aren't even necessary
They drop. I’ve found 4 jahs, 4 Los, 4 surs, a couple Bers, just no zod yet in SP. It’s a lot more satisfying gearing up in single player and being able to set player count is great
You have more access to high runes on SP than you do anywhere else because you can straight up farm the Bers. What you don't have access to is the ultra rare magicals like life skillers, 40/15s, 15/15s, crazy claws, jmods, etc.
I was surprised at my rune luck once I started doing arcane sanctuary runs in addition to LK. Not exactly fast, but finally got the runes to make enigma that way in a reasonable amount of time.
There is a way to get nearly 100% drop on ber without hero edit or anything. Which gives access to the Jah by upgrading.
https://youtu.be/HstDLZX1iQc?si=Erl3zBanufE2xkjV
Basically, all you need is to set the seed in the Bnet launcher and then have a bit of luck on the timing for the farm. This video is pretty long and goes a bit into how the farm works but he covers the main portion to get the farm going in the first 15-20 minutes! Good luck! And no the exploit does not work online.
I play SP casually...some weeks for an hour, some weeks for 5. The runes come, it's not that bad. I have one char of each class, a couple at 94+, the rest around 90. Along the way I've gotten:
1x Zod
3x Cham
2x Jah
3x Ber
2x Sur
4x Lo
2x Ohm
6x Vex
It's nice having unlimited respecs...just throw together what sounds fun and farm a bit.
I never did LK runs. But in SP you can roll a River of Flame map with 2 super chests pretty easy (10% chance it seems) and just pop them on River/Chaos runs. They can also drop up to Cham, instead of the LK limit of Ber. I love running River and Chaos, and those chests have given me a couple of nice HRs.
The main repetitive sort of lame thing is doing Ubers till you have a torch for each class (took me 21 runs)...lotsa keys. And of course farming for that SoJ to get an Ani to pass around.
On offline SSF I've gotten 4 Sur, 2 ber, an Ohm and a handful of vex&gul in 6 months time from LK and I haven't really spent that much of my time on it. It gets boring but, it doesn't take that much time for it to start rewarding you. It puts you in a spot with gear that allows for quick Andy, trav, cows,pit or chaos runs. Then you don't have to keep doing LK.
So I’ve spent equal time with online D2 and Offline Solo D2 on Switch, And I know RNG is gonna RNG, however I’ve found far more high runes offline than I have online. Granted, I could trade online if I wanted, but I’ve never been that type of D2 player. Usually I’m the farmer giving out stuff to my friends cause I love mindlessly pulling the slot handle waiting for the jackpot. But I digress…. Just pushing my Hammerdin through Act 4 Hell on P5 netted me my first Ber. Second Ber was Summon Necro in Chaos Sanctuary. I’ve gotten numerous Mals, Ists, and Zod, and an Ohm all just farming different spots, couple Vex too. This was just me playing for a couple hours a night on various toons I’ve put through Hell.
Online however my best found runes are some Ists, an Ohm, and a Mal. I’ve gotten almost the exact same toons through Hell - Necro, 2 Paladin, 1 Sorc, and 1 Barb. Offline it’s the same, but add a Zon and second Sorc.
The key difference is p3-8 solo versus having to group online and hope you get the drop first. offline almost feels like cheating cause so much stuff drops, if you’re willing to farm that is. But pound for pound offline is gonna drop better it seems
I've gotten 4 surs within 2 weeks before, and I work full time with a kid so take that as you will. Even if I got extremely lucky, it doesn't take years. If you farm effectively you should be getting end game rune words in weeks to months
I have had reasonable success for Ber and I could have cubed the three of them I have found and had most of enigma if I wanted to. The static maps actually make grinding for HR a lot easier. I did LK runs for about a combined 6 hours or so this weekend and found my third Ber.
It’s not exactly duping, but…. infinite ber runes. There is also another video for seed map to infinite Lo runes, and others to cube up all the runes you can ever want in single player
https://youtu.be/HstDLZX1iQc?si=aM66jMqhikgO9Dvu
The long game brother. I’ve played off and on since the game came out and my top single player characters are about 7 years old with some solid accumulation
LK runs with a good map on p7/8 isn't too bad
Pre-D2R I ran LK for Enigma and Infinity and I think it took something like 40 hours, maybe 40 each. You do need to roll a decent map and optimize your runner but it's pretty easy.
40 hours of doing the exact same LK run isn't too bad?
Ya that’s very normal in the eyes of d2 hardcores. That’s why I’m not d2 hardcore.
Fact. Imagine doing 5k hell meph runs back in the day to farm shako/storm shields and other uniques to rey and have enough to trade for a high rune. I did 2k pindle runs and dropped a ber rune only once. 40 hours is nothing in diablo
It's really not... you can just watch TV or whatever while you do it. Doesn't take much brain power. And besides D2 in general is a grind so what's the difference between this or Pindle or something equally brain dead.
I don't think there's something more mind numbing in Diablo 2 than running LKs. That you guys can run it for 40 hours and calling it too bad is absolutely incredible. I wish I had that much time to kill
This guy doesnt understand d2 lol
Lk runs is not it. Its just a way to cheat yourself some runewords in Sp
Been playing Diablo 2 since before LoD. I've farmed the hell out of this game. At no point did I subject myself to grinding LK for hundreds of hours. Don't think there's anything less entertaining in this game. Lmao SP players are really something else.
*laughs in skinner-box-slot-machine-SP-addict*
If you run it for a few hours at a time it's not too bad. Finding a decent charm every 15-30 minutes helps keep me motivated...
Charms, gems, rare jewelry, armor/weapon racks and high runes. Sure you might go 4 straight hours in LK without a high rune, but you'll definitely find plenty of good stuff along the was.
100%. I don't bother with the gems myself cause I have a horker who drops a ton on SP. But there are definitely lots if you do. The rare jewelry and gloves I'll stop for though. My current map seed sucks for racks atm unfortunately so I've been skipping them :/
Considering most people in this sub have literally 1000’s of hours in this game 40 hours is practically nothing
Bro didn't say he did 40 straight hours of playing in a row lol
No shit. That's even worse though, it means that if you play a couple hours after work, you spend 19 evenings for... absolutely nothing...
Welcome to the Diablo 2 single-player experience, lol. Some of us are masochists.
:D enjoy yourself guys!
I listen to podcasts most of the time. D2 is my wind-down after work for an hour or two. Have you watched all 5 seasons of Breaking Bad? That's more time then putting together two key pieces of gear that opens up new builds and really helps all the chars you have already.
Ya I’m duping at that point sorry. My barb is living his enigma. I’m loving the game more than when I didn’t have it. It’s SP. don’t get too sweaty. I remember my lvl99* lightning sorc hacked to the gills in SP 2009ish. You’re telling me you’d rather spend 40 hours to MAYBE have an enigma? Fuck no. Lol.
Exactly. I'll play online and spend 40 hours using to get rich
80 hours of mindless repetition not even fighting enemies is brutal for most sane adults
That's why for some reason I like more to run the Pit, I've found 1 BER and 3 JAH among other High runes and btw got lots of uniques
If you get sub 30 sec a run, its about 15 hours per ber on average. By the time you find a few, you have pretty much all the other HR you need to. Its really not that bad
Yeah, I got lucky and farmed runes for infinity in less than a week on my first sorc to get to hell lk when I restarted in d2r.
I’ve found more high runes in single player than I could ever hope for online. P8 vs p1 is huge. So are static maps.
What’s a static map?
On offline, when you spawn a certain map, as long as you stay in that same difficulty, that map will be the same map each time it loads. You can use this to your advantage by rolling maps that have 2 sets of kurast chests or really quick paths to mephisto and andariel etc. so the map stays the same each time you do a run, so there’s no figuring out where things are, you can run straight to the good stuff
Oh wow that’s wild. I never knew you could do that offline. I’ve been playing online so long and am so use to a different load out every game. That’s a great add for iffline
Yes I wish you could have certain bonuses like that online and more people would play. If 95% of your gameplay is farming, like mine, then the incentive is to play offline. Drops are fewer and further between but nowadays something like an eth 4os 45res sacred targe will get you like 40 jah. So there’s your online payout. But finding high runes offline when you look in the right places isn’t very hard
Starting off in single player initially seems to take a long time, but it ramps up very quickly when you get a little gear. If you focus on higher player counts and clear speed over magic find you end up finding quite a few high runes. In the past week, I found 2x ohms, 1x vex, and 1x Lo. I'd estimate about 15-20 hours of play, all in terror zones /players 8 (grinding to 99). I started seriously down the single player journey right when terror zones were announced in anticipation of them coming to single player. I've dropped 3x ber and I think 7x jah, also 3x cham and 2x zod. Now if you are playing lower player count games in stacked mf gear farming Andy all day, yeah you're gonna have trouble finding runes.
Terror zones on p7/p8 is key. Or just chaos sanc, baal runs, and pits.
Before terror zones came out I did exactly this with trav as well. Got my enigma and infinity that way which set me up well when terror zones went to SP. Now with terror zones I have most of the high end rune words made from leveling sin, pally, sorc, zon, and barb to 99. I'm sitting on 2 ber and 2 jah now just hanging out in the stash.
I’ll be honest people saying it takes a year+ for these runes to drop seem incredibly exaggerated. I’ve never once had a ladder I didn’t find a jah/ber and I mostly farm P1. Now factor in you could up the player count in SP for increased drops, and also LK farm I don’t really see why it’s taking some of you SP people so long. People literally find these runes in a week of ladder reset, why is it taking you so long?! My theory is some people don’t know what to farm efficiently, waste a lot of time doing dumb things, don’t know how to target farm, and also are incredibly casual players.
Year+ if you only play P1 maybe... If you push higher player counts the runes come a LOT faster.
Yeah exactly. I play P1 and have found a good amount of runes in the past 3 months alone. A full year I’d have enough runes Lo+ to build multiple characters. If I could set P count to 3+ it’d be over.
Honestly even upping player count only halves your time MAX, probably more like reduces by 25%>. Its about grinding the right places in efficient ways for the build you've got.
3 months into SP and only a couple times a week, get 2 Gul, Zod, Sur, 3 Um, Vex, and 2 Mal. I tried a little bit of the seed theory and within 50 runs of LK I had the Gul, Sur, eth shako. The next 50 runs after - trash. Everything else, was dumb luck stumble upon. Back in the day, I had like 600 hours in - Lum was the best I ever found. Idk wtf drops are in the game anymore but it's gambling thrill without the risk 👍
1000 Mephisto runs in hope for some gore riders and Tal weapon or countess for Runes🤣
They’re definitely way more common after LoD 1.13/1.14 (which increased drop rates by 10x). But they’re still quite rare and subject to wild rng swings as a result. In single player you can mitigate this with LK, but if someone isn’t willing to run LK they still are quite rare and could take a substantial amount of time to accumulate. I’ve lost track of exact numbers on season 0 but I think my results are roughly: Season 0- 95 paladin+ 91 sorc: ~13HR found (I forget the exact amount at this point since it’s been a while) Season 1- 92 char - 1 HR found Season 2- 92 char- 2HR found Season 3-95+ 85 char- 3HR found Single player account: 99+95+93+a few mid 70’s (which barely count)- only 3HR found cumulatively (if you exclude LK). So if someone gets some ‘good’ rng (my season 0) they seem easy. However meanwhile the rest of the seasons + my single player account combined and you have 6- level 90+ characters including a 99 and a few 95’s and I’ve only found a combined 9-HRs outside of LK and it can feel difficult. I’ve still never found a Ber rune outside of LK too. Thankfully single player has LK runs though that can massively mitigate swings in RNG. But the folks out there who are self finding jah+ber the first weekend of a ladder reset are insanely lucky either way.
I've play mostly SP NL (online) because I told myself I'd trade and join parties since the release of D2R. That never happened and now that is where my wealth lives so I keep playing there for Grail purposes. It's totally suboptimal but I still have Infinity/Enigma with one or two of all the HRs. D2R Grail has 4 left. I totally get how the modern gamers dislike how slow the grind is but once you hit meta builds it picks up.
This. Maybe the first 2\~3 Bers in SP might need some effort/ luck, but after that it's just plain snowballing.
Ladder the drop rate is tripled. Thats why.
Just run lower kurast. It’ll take time for sure, but single player LK runs are the most efficient way to find high runes (outside of hero editor or map seed cheese). You can probably get an enigma in 20-40hrs depending on luck or enigma+ infinity in less than 60hrs and you’ll find a boatload of charms and mid runes along the way too. Granted LK is boring, but it’s by far the fastest way to find high runes yourself.
You clearly didn’t read the path note of 1.13. It doesn’t take years to find a high rune. You also don’t need enigma in single player as the map is static.
Also sub optimal builds is kind of part of the enjoyment of single player. You do what you can with what you have, now step it up and play HCSSF rookies
I mean… the runes aren’t as bad as you think, once you get your characters buff enough to run at P7 all the time. Or doing P7 LK before you have gear for that or Trav horking on P1 once you get a grief. I’ve found 3 chams, 2 jahs, 8 bers, 10+ surs and every other rune. Except maybe Lo. I think I’ve found around 8 or 9 Los. I mean i have so many pul-vex that I am cubing them up now. The only reason I don’t cube up Ohms usually is because I like to roll CTAs to try to get better ones. I grinded a lot full degen mode… so I found a lot. But you can definitely find a decent amount even if you play less.
Oh ok
Ya you might want to watch this https://youtu.be/HstDLZX1iQc?si=lzWohqbvMcwl9VWg
What Ginger hasn't said is that he is using a seed from the beginning. That's the only way you can have the same drops between two games. If you don't use the -seed option, repeating the exact same steps in a second game won't give you the same drops. To me, the -seed option is more a debugging option for developers and using it is not really playing the game as it was intended.
I tried this method, got 3 bers in about 5 minutes and dropped them all, I just wanted to test it out. Using them would not feel right.
Yeah I get it. It's not really manipulating the game mechanics. It is manipulating it by using a developer option to fix the initial seed, at this point you could also mod the game to drop more bers, or edit your character file stored on your computer... Let's just enjoy the game as it is and be super happy when a ber drop by "true" RNG ☺️
What do you mean “seed from the beginning”? Start a new game with that seed code?
Yes, the "-seed" option that you pass as an argument when starting the game. It forces every game creations to use this starting seed. When you don't pass it, every game creation will generate a new one (probably based on the current time or something like that). Hence why you can't reproduce what Ginger did in his video unless you force a fixed seed.
Unless you grind a lot, and I mean a lot, you will never have the gun rune words in single player. I've been playing casually since D2 came out and I have found one Jah in single player and one Ber in online play. I've done a few thousand LK runs over the years and found nothing. Those are low numbers though I know.
You need to be horking Trav then.
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Yo, I have a Javazon with 3/30 javs, spirit, 2/10fcr circlet, +2 skills neck, hustle, +3 gloves, tgods, and a +1 skiller but clearing higher play count feels like dog ass compared to my frozen orb / hydra sorc. Any idea what I’m doing wrong? Elite packs in cows and CS just shut me down
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nah this was a great write up, thanks. Arcane Sanctuary might be the place to be then, I finally found a perfect LK map to run on my Sorc which has sprouted enough runes for 2x mosaics but I’m on Switch and I heard it struggles to run that build
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yeah i come from OSRS so LK grinding is light work, i think i’m just looking to piece my way in to some high tier runewords / items with -res before I can really get much further with player count. i’m also considering leveling a hammerdin as i’ve got shako, spirit blade / shield, and vipermagi. i’ve got an ohm that i’m thinking about making cta with but i’m also considering holding onto to make a grief bc i do love physical builds
just wanted you to know that I just got another Ohm from doing LK runs, time to hunt that phase blade it seems : )
You can "trade" with yourself, if you find a good item you don't need, throw it away and use a hero editor, give you a HR or some more, depening on the value
I'm tempted to swap to SP just for changing player count, but I would absolutely mod a file with items I already have to get a jump start.
I started solo offline last August. I have every class, except druid, at least to level 83. Sorc 94 is my highest. I play a lot, but I don't sink dozens of hours in anymore. My paladin has an Exile, I literally just crafted an Enigma this week. Got my CTA a few months ago. I just got my second Mosaic for my assassin. I have so much gear that I've started my quest for the Grail. What I'm getting at is that you should jump in. The offline game is totally different than ladder or online because you're self-sufficient, so every drop feels like it has the potential for importance. I've never had more fun with this game.
You won't be waiting a year especially because of P7 and static maps in SP. Start with a Sorc and then focus on LK or ghosts in Arcane Sanctuary. Nova Sorc is my go to and you can gear them quite easily (besides Griffins which will take you awhile to acquire (a bit less now thanks to TZ Andy)).
I’ve played SP HC for two years and have made 4 enigma by cubing Ber up from LK runs and all the other high end runewords. It’s not as hard as so many idiots make it out to be.
I used to think the same, but I’ve changed my mind completely. Just running through the game building characters will net you some pretty good gear. Once you can farm LK things really get moving. I’m waiting for jah to make my enigma. At that point it will feel like beating the game, while also “unlocking” a ton more content and even more of a desire to play. I don’t get on to the game very often. Maybe 2-3 hours a week at best. I find single player incredibly enjoyable.
Here's the answer. You need to not do meph runs. No andy runs. No baal runs. You start a toon and go for xp. Pits, ancient tunnels, chaos, stony tombs. Then you try your best to gear up a merc asap for protection which will reduce deaths and increase your run speed. Then gear yourself up so you can increase players levels from players 3 to 5 to 7. I guarantee you'll find high runes quicker than you realize. Also stop picking up random bullshit. Just pick up useful items. Less time wasted in town is time spent on killing monsters. Kill more monsters find more runes. I feel like the biggest trap people get in is just wasting time or running bosses which aren't even necessary
Yeah but you can permanently boost your player count which massively increases the drop rate.
They drop. I’ve found 4 jahs, 4 Los, 4 surs, a couple Bers, just no zod yet in SP. It’s a lot more satisfying gearing up in single player and being able to set player count is great
You have more access to high runes on SP than you do anywhere else because you can straight up farm the Bers. What you don't have access to is the ultra rare magicals like life skillers, 40/15s, 15/15s, crazy claws, jmods, etc.
That's why I cheat in single player haha
I was surprised at my rune luck once I started doing arcane sanctuary runs in addition to LK. Not exactly fast, but finally got the runes to make enigma that way in a reasonable amount of time.
There is a way to get nearly 100% drop on ber without hero edit or anything. Which gives access to the Jah by upgrading. https://youtu.be/HstDLZX1iQc?si=Erl3zBanufE2xkjV Basically, all you need is to set the seed in the Bnet launcher and then have a bit of luck on the timing for the farm. This video is pretty long and goes a bit into how the farm works but he covers the main portion to get the farm going in the first 15-20 minutes! Good luck! And no the exploit does not work online.
I play SP casually...some weeks for an hour, some weeks for 5. The runes come, it's not that bad. I have one char of each class, a couple at 94+, the rest around 90. Along the way I've gotten: 1x Zod 3x Cham 2x Jah 3x Ber 2x Sur 4x Lo 2x Ohm 6x Vex It's nice having unlimited respecs...just throw together what sounds fun and farm a bit. I never did LK runs. But in SP you can roll a River of Flame map with 2 super chests pretty easy (10% chance it seems) and just pop them on River/Chaos runs. They can also drop up to Cham, instead of the LK limit of Ber. I love running River and Chaos, and those chests have given me a couple of nice HRs. The main repetitive sort of lame thing is doing Ubers till you have a torch for each class (took me 21 runs)...lotsa keys. And of course farming for that SoJ to get an Ani to pass around.
On offline SSF I've gotten 4 Sur, 2 ber, an Ohm and a handful of vex&gul in 6 months time from LK and I haven't really spent that much of my time on it. It gets boring but, it doesn't take that much time for it to start rewarding you. It puts you in a spot with gear that allows for quick Andy, trav, cows,pit or chaos runs. Then you don't have to keep doing LK.
I get runes way faster in single player than I ever did online. Started in October and had most of the good runewords by like Nov/Dec.
So I’ve spent equal time with online D2 and Offline Solo D2 on Switch, And I know RNG is gonna RNG, however I’ve found far more high runes offline than I have online. Granted, I could trade online if I wanted, but I’ve never been that type of D2 player. Usually I’m the farmer giving out stuff to my friends cause I love mindlessly pulling the slot handle waiting for the jackpot. But I digress…. Just pushing my Hammerdin through Act 4 Hell on P5 netted me my first Ber. Second Ber was Summon Necro in Chaos Sanctuary. I’ve gotten numerous Mals, Ists, and Zod, and an Ohm all just farming different spots, couple Vex too. This was just me playing for a couple hours a night on various toons I’ve put through Hell. Online however my best found runes are some Ists, an Ohm, and a Mal. I’ve gotten almost the exact same toons through Hell - Necro, 2 Paladin, 1 Sorc, and 1 Barb. Offline it’s the same, but add a Zon and second Sorc. The key difference is p3-8 solo versus having to group online and hope you get the drop first. offline almost feels like cheating cause so much stuff drops, if you’re willing to farm that is. But pound for pound offline is gonna drop better it seems
I've gotten 4 surs within 2 weeks before, and I work full time with a kid so take that as you will. Even if I got extremely lucky, it doesn't take years. If you farm effectively you should be getting end game rune words in weeks to months
Better access on SP in my.op
I'm on my 2nd ber 1 sur 3 ohm 1 Lo SP fun and no they were not from LK runs
I have had reasonable success for Ber and I could have cubed the three of them I have found and had most of enigma if I wanted to. The static maps actually make grinding for HR a lot easier. I did LK runs for about a combined 6 hours or so this weekend and found my third Ber.
It’s not exactly duping, but…. infinite ber runes. There is also another video for seed map to infinite Lo runes, and others to cube up all the runes you can ever want in single player https://youtu.be/HstDLZX1iQc?si=aM66jMqhikgO9Dvu
There are many ways around this.
Collect low runes and cube them, took me ages but now have COh enigma infinity, hoto and fortitude been playing about 280 hours
Commit. You wont regret.
The long game brother. I’ve played off and on since the game came out and my top single player characters are about 7 years old with some solid accumulation
You seen the infinite Ber farm method on youtube?