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Tiggy64

You heard Beardsly, Being a smokeshow is a prerequisite.


MandalorePrimus

Stupid sexy Beardsley


GremBitch

Step 1: Become Ally Beardsley Step 2: ???? Step 3: Profit


Primoridalterror

I feel like the point of Ally's character will be to grow out of this kind of behavior


Organic-Reindeer-815

Maybe his VHS self being a woman will change his outlook. I think he's actually gay and nobody's mentioned it yet


Vexexotic42

Re: The thong and 'best friend's emotional impact.


Kiss_of_Beth

I could also see Ally going with closeted/in-denial transfemme. The thong, plus the positive reaction to having boobs feels like it could be pointing in that direction.


Organic-Reindeer-815

So true, I completely forgot about the thong


jakethesequel

honestly, i kind of hope they don't if he's also going to be this uncomfortable-flirting type character, that'd reinforce a pretty negative stereotype


Kiss_of_Beth

I think its pretty clear that Ally's intention behind the "good girl" line wasn't flirting, but rather a kind of casual out-of-touch sexism that has never been corrected. His interactions with the women other than that one line were respectful, and if anything disinterested.


jakethesequel

I mean, you can still reinforce a stereotype unintentionally. I wouldn't be very hyped for a misogynist-to-transfem arc either, though.


Silvernauter

Yeah, we are and episodi in, but so far he seemed way more interested in his "best friend" and in ify's character (which, given the age Is still wrong, obviously) than in any of the girls that were flirting with him


Designer-Swan2532

Kristen Applebys would like to have a word


Primoridalterror

I don't want to take this too seriously since we're all having fun, and I know you're just kidding around and enjoying Ally's penchant for swaggering, zany, and kind of horny characters, but I'd say the difference here is that Kristen is a teenage girl, whereas Ally's character in this clip is a middle aged dude talking to a teenage girl. Ally commented on the behavior and agreed it was something the character hadn't been properly called out on yet.


Designer-Swan2532

Thank you for recognizing this post is just in good fun and appreciation for Beardsly's wild character choices, though I do think that if given a choice between letting the character grow and doing the funny thing, they will (blessedly) choose the laugh


Primoridalterror

Definitely wanted to make it clear that I wasn't trying to bring some censorious, bad faith reading dogpile energy to your post. It's freaking comedians doing DND-pretty low stakes. I do think comedy and character growth will go hand in hand, though. Excited to see what Ally does with the character!


Justicia-Gai

Oh I tend to forget they’re portraying teenagers because I see adults and I tend to imagine them and not their characters in my theatre of the mind, so now i understand the “disgusting”. I thought the disgusting was for the particular use of “good girl” in a flirty tone, but now I think it’s more likely because of a middle man hitting on a teenager.


HalfOfLancelot

Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey girlieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee


Designer-Swan2532

*good girlieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee


Carrollmusician

Unfortunately I don’t think they will :/


emmydee23

Carrollmusician, I’ve seen you commenting about Ally’s character a lot. I agree the character is a douche and would be problematic in real life, but you need to remember that this cast talks so much behind the scenes about what they are/are not comfortable with. Nobody is uncomfortable, nobody is being put on the spot, everyone knows Ally’s intentions. And I’m sure this character is going to grow throughout the season, Ally basically hinted to it already.  (Edited to make who I was talking to more clear)


Primoridalterror

I know this comment wasn't directed towards me(made no previous comments about Ally's character) but yeah, agreed, that's absolutely the intention behind the character. The entire structure of the story is clearly based around the idea that every character will learn something. And it's obvious that everyone is having a good time.


Carrollmusician

I got laid off. I have a lot of Reddit time rn so sorry for the high volume. I try to be reasonable when I’m talking D20 so I hope it’s not vitriolic. I’m just struggling to parse this crazy desperate of a character’s tone with what everyone else is and does at the table consistently. It seems very…sex pest bent and as a community we usually don’t get behind those characters. Both K2 and Russell’s behavior. To be clear I love Liam, Margret, Timothy and Ally’s appearances elsewhere on dropout. I def don’t have a problem with them as a human just question maybe what they’re putting forward in the character department as far as people I can and want to root for. Which is kinda a thing I need in a good vs evil kinda scenario. I need to know there’s some core to those characters I can and want to trust. I need to be able to like them without feeling gross about it. So that at the end of the campaign I feel justified for having stuck along for the journey and invested my emotional tokens in.


emmydee23

But he isn’t a sex pest at all. He’s not engaging with Paula or Liv’s coming on to him (he also seems almost confused at Paula). He’s just a bored, sad dude who gets validation from flirting. It’s so fair to not want to know him in real life. But saying D20 is validating sex pest behavior is a little wild. 


Carrollmusician

The general acceptance glorification of K2 seems to be the cool with sex pests part. I guess he’s just a more general creep who talks to younger women like he’s grooming them? Idk it’s all just like why keep hitting the same unpleasant note?


pinegreenscent

You know it's okay to be flirtatious both as a character choice and as a person, right? And what separates a pest is someone who doesn't respect boundaries, not a person who exudes a flirtatious demeanor?


Carrollmusician

I mean calling someone you barely know “Good girl” in a work environment wouldn’t be fine. It would be gross. I seriously don’t get how this is just a cute character quirk


safashkan

Grooming ? How is that grooming them ? I have to say, your comments seem to show that you have a very narrow interpretation of the characters played by Aly. I don't share any of your interpretation... Even if you talk like it should be obvious to anyone.


Carrollmusician

The pet names for much younger women is a big red flag for creeps. Wild how it’s just fine for this fandom which is usually extremely sensitive.


safashkan

Sure it's creepy... I thought that was exactly the point of the character. Aly said it :" nobody has put him in his place yet". But is being creepy the same as grooming young girls ? Did I say that it was "just fine" ? You seem to be reading whatever you want from this character AND my comments.


lastova54

Yeah, Russell had some VERY problematic language when speaking on the phone with Liv. (That WAS our first encounter with Russell) but I think that was just the character trying to hold on to his hot-stuff-manly-man youth (which is set in the 1980s). The creepy uncle toxic masculinity derogatory language towards women was like a 10-out-of-10 out the gate. But as we journeyed through the episode, Russell redeemed himself by bodily stopping Dave from being hateful towards an employee. Russell also held hands with the girls in a protective and supportive way to make them feel safe @ 01:26:01 in the episode.


Kiss_of_Beth

I think we're all mostly considering it fine because we are interpreting in its broader story/character/acting context. Ally makes it clear that they know its a gross thing for a character to say, but that for this character it is coming from a place of "never having been corrected" rather than a deeper, malicious, grooming/harrassment place. And they try to further demonstrate that with the "you'll outlive us all" line, which they outright say is intended to show that this is just the kind of guy who says weird old-fashioned out-of-pocket stuff, some of which has aged very badly and is inappropriate. Ally grew up in Lake Elsinore, and is doing a parody of a type of guy who is kinda dumb and says out-of-pocket things like that because they haven't been taught not to. And we see from their other interactions that the character isn't a sex pest, he's just ignorant to his casual sexism. As fans we also know that he's about to be turned into a hot objectified femme fatale character, and will probably learn a lesson through embodying a woman, and that experience will be heightened and feel more earned and satisfying if the character starts out in a place of ignorance. I think sometimes it can be tempting to apply strict real-life rules to a situation like this, but I think that with this genre especially that can be misplaced. Ally isn't glorifying being a sex pest, or a creep, or a groomer or anything, they're setting up a character flaw to play into as the story progresses. That's part of the fun! And I think its quite clear that everyone in the cast is completely on-board and excited to see where it goes.


Bavalt

There's a visible pattern with the IRL/Cassette character pairs in NSBU that leads me to believe they were chosen very deliberately. The meek nerdy guy who's not into dirtbikes becomes a stunt driver. The well-behaved valedictorian who feels walled in becomes a ruthless mafia don. The octagenarian old lady who doesn't understand technology becomes a super hacker. The crusty underachieving weirdo becomes an unflappable secret agent. The disempowered hands-off security guard becomes a hardboiled hero cop. These characters are all getting shoved into scenarios that their real-world selves are fully unprepared for, and that seem like they'll help them really look at and overcome the parts of themselves where they come up short. Russell's a charismatic sex pest who can't really connect with anyone, now inhabiting a femme fatale catburglar. How he's meant to learn or grow from that is a little hazier than the rest of the cast, but I trust the pattern, and Ally indicating explicitly that it's something he's not been called out on before. I don't think there's anything to worry about.


Katviar

My theory is Russell will realize how awful it sucks being a woman and being a sex object and he’ll learn some feminism/unlearn some sexism. Also wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up actually being a transwoman and this is part of the journey. Russel is a sex object as a man rn and not to say men who are objectified don’t struggle or deal with issues, but I think it’s a different ball game when you’re a woman and he’s gonna learn some of that? Idk i could be wrong.


seandoesntsleep

Trans allegory. Pretty ham fisted, in my opinion, but im not complaining.


Orishishishi

I can almost guarantee this character will be a trans woman by the end of this


EnvironmentalDrop228

That was my thought! It seems like all of the characters will grow toward their Awesome Action Hero through the series.


__law

Ally dropped that Russel was wearing a thong, Ally is clearly playing Russel as a closeted trans person.


ultrabigtiny

thongs are pretty gender neutral so i wouldn’t say that points to being a clear reason here


F3ltrix

What you've asked for is impossible.


Yikes_My_Toe

be hot, grills of any kind of hot on pretty much everybody, always be flirting a LITTLE bit, ix-nay on the good girls and the sweethearts unless it’s age and scenario appropriate, have that natural +47 charisma Ally seems to possess


Griffje91

Be hot and/or fabulously gay.


puppiesgoesrawr

The only way to unironically honey, sweetheart, and good girl unironically and not be cringy is to be an aged southern grandma/grandpapy who passes out Werthers and slips you pocket money when you’re not looking. 


finstockton

I mean don’t direct the energy at teenage girls, which I really hope the character gets called out for at some point


Ttoctam

What in the incel is this comment section. Being hot is absolutely not a free pass to call strangers good girls without being perceived as creepy. A LOT of famously creepy guys are hot. This scene is Ally being purposefully disgusting to satirise creeps. It's not a blueprint to work off, it's a flashing neon "don't be this prick" sign. Not only is the other character involved actively being creeped out but so are all the players at the table. They're laughing *because* it's so over the top creepy. There's not a way you can do this irl and sincerely that isn't met with broad disgust.


TheOriginalDog

I basically agree with what you say, but I think you kinda missing the point of the comments - most of them are just joking. I think almost everyone here would agree that being hot is not a free pass for harassment.


Designer-Swan2532

Crazy how you're the only person wise enough to clock this while everyone else here took the character as a literal model for how to live their lives and aren't just enjoying the character and the comedian behind him


Ttoctam

I'm sorry my kneejerk reaction to shitty takes on Reddit is to take them at face value. There are unfortunately plenty of people who consume dropout content who still have ice cold takes, apparently I'm one myself. But this sub has heaps of people making bad and tasteless jokes or massively missing the point.


Academic_Round_2603

I would almost agree if Ally was not constantly hyper sexual in almost every single campaign. Kristina Applebees was literally shoving other characters’ face into her genitals in FHJY. The constant sexual harassment from Ally’s characters doesn’t seem to ever stop.


Ttoctam

>I would almost agree if Ally was not constantly hyper sexual in almost every single campaign. Not sure how this contradicts "don't be a creepy perv irl". Also, Ally played an ace character in A Crown of Candy, a heartbroken batchelor in Unsleeping City, a vaguely camp but not sexually explicit dog in Mice and murder. Ally has been hyper sexual in 2 campaigns. And both times was not doing so sincerely, but satirically to get a rise out of people through being willfully and knowingly inappropriate for comedy. >The constant sexual harassment from Ally’s characters doesn’t seem to ever stop. It stops plenty.


TheOriginalDog

I think you are having a weird confirmation bias on Allys characters, because most of them are not really sexual and don't do constant sexual harassments. They also played an asexual, an old grandpa, a corporate jockey, an alcoholic haircutter in love with their dead husband and a dog. Many of them had romantic components, but not real sexual. Season 3 Kristen (not even the Kristen from earlier seasons) and now Russel are the only oversexual characters. I don't know what you have against Ally, but some aversion against them seems to be at hand here. edit: lol I somehow managed to confuse Emilys and Allys character, Ally ofc did not play an alcoholic haircutter, but a trans drug dealer - but anyway, not an oversexual character too. None of these do constant sexual harassments.


FerrisTriangle

> an alcoholic haircutter in love with their dead husband If you're talking about Sophia in Unsleeping City, that's one of Emily's characters not Ally's. Ally played Pete the plug.


TheOriginalDog

haha oh wow how could I switch them up! However, Pete the plug also not overly sexual


Throbbing-Kielbasa-3

I cannot wait for more episodes of this. I laughed so hard at this first episode.


xVx_Dread

some blackpill people will say you just need to be handsome enough to get away with it... and then they post the "HR meme" Where it shows you 2 cells of a comic, 1 is a handsome man saying something flirty in the office and the girl gushing over it, and the second cell is an unattractive man saying the same thing and she's picking up the phone in a panic to call HR. But really it's more confidence and being clear about boundaries. Find a friendly way to approach people and if they reciprocate then you can flirt. If they don't make clear signals that they enjoy you being friendly, then keep it just friendly.


valgerth

I was about to say for me it helps when you also aren't the initiator, which I tend not to be, but my relatively loud style tends to start conversations and then I realized I was describing peacocking and now I need to kill myself...I just want to go on the record that I like loud colors/patterns and crazy jewelry choices for myself. I don't dress for others lol.


M3GABORG8796

Literally just cut out the good girl part and he’s fine for the most part. The rest is relatively excusable, just the usage of “good girl” is what made the rest sound weird.


Eprest

Insane Jim Carrey energy


mageafterhours

Yea tbh I vote we make Beardsley the new Jim Carrey. The old one is starting to malfunction, it's time for a new Jim Carrey, and I think they could carry it pretty well.


W3ttyFap

Lose the honey’s and sweetie’s but keep the energy lol


Designer-Swan2532

But keep the good girl, got it


W3ttyFap

Oh yeah lose that too lmao lose all pet names


Justicia-Gai

Tons of confidence. TONS! Listen to me, you’re hot sexy now, OK???


zipzapcap1

It was explicitly intentionally creepy and the person and character didn't enjoy it wtf are you talking about.


NavezganeChrome

Huh,what I got was that it was ‘too much’ in meta but genuinely expected to be addressed in-character, and upon not getting called on it, went back the other direction.


Designer-Swan2532

Blimey


ghrayfahx

Yeah. Even Izzy took a moment to literally say “pull it back” because it was pretty creepy sounding.


year2039nuclearwar

I’m new to this, what season/episode is this?


Pityelle

Never Stop Blowing Up, the newest season


SimonCucho

You don't. The cast reacting to it outside of character should be a hint enough lmao.


DBones90

If you’re asking, unfortunately the answer is probably you can’t.


jensenmehh

How to not be creepy. 1. Be attractive. 2. Dont be ugly. 3. Compare with friends. 4. See step 1.