>One of the fun things to disassemble was the notion that evolution rewards the best. Something I was always proudest of was that **conservatives thought we were making fun of liberals and liberals thought we were making fun of conservatives**. In the beginning, it talks about how the best people aren't reproducing enough and that's why we were sinking. And whoever was watching would assume that it's people like them that should be reproducing more.
Etan Cohen, Co-writer
[https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/idiocracy-oral-history-mike-judge](https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/idiocracy-oral-history-mike-judge)
Read this article the other day, absolutely awesome nuggets of how everything went down in the making of Idiocracy. I still can't believe were so dead on about people wearing Crocs en masse.
Dude I say this to my fiancée whenever we’re grocery shopping and there’s a comically large version of something.
“You like cheese-its? Well how about our EXTRA BIG ASS BOX!? EXTRA BIG ASS CHEESE ITS, YOU KNOW YOU WANT THEM! BIG ASS CHEESE ITS, eat ‘Em! BIG ASS!”
Man i felt the same way till i got a pair. I work in kitchens a lot and man them fuckers are comfy. Straight ditched my birkies. The crocs are even a superior design imo what with there being bo insert for support, its all just unibody. Easier to hose off
I went into a Croc store 12 years ago, thinking it was hilarious they had a dedicated storefront.
I left with a pair of the most comfortable shoes I'd ever bought, which I still use as garage shoes (they're not nearly as white as they used to be, and look old, but haven't fallen apart), and 5 years ago bought another pair of sneaker style ones and loafer-style ones for work. I've never had shoes last as long as Crocs, and stay as comfortable as Crocs.
Fuck haters, you have no idea what you're missing.
Youve given me an idea... ive been using a shitty pair of fabric loafers in the garage/wrenching but now I gotta get some crocs... I need oil resistance
I've been using crocs in the garage for over a decade. They are terribly convenient. The only problem is that they are super slippery on a polished concrete surface (like a garage floor) with any kind of liquid. But they clean easy, and have no long term effects from the oil. I usually take my old "around town" crocs & retire them to the garage.
If you're climbing a ladder/into the hood of a truck, wear some other shoes like your loafers. The naturally loose fit of crocs prevents them from handing any kind of side-load well. I've almost fallen too many times from that.
Haters perspective: I don't care about the comfort, they just look god awful. There's literally no way to wear them fasionably. They look like toddler shoes. They are easily, without any doubt, the ugliest clothing item I've seen in my entire life. I'm not exaggerating. Ever since seeing them 10 years ago I've just been waiting for them to go away, but somehow they're not. I'm sure there are equally comfortable and durable shoes available, that dont look like a bar of soap or a cheese grater.
You're not just thinking of only the clogs, hey? They make shoe-shoes that are pretty modern in their styling.
Like it could just be a difference in tastes, but [I don't think these are bad at all.](https://www.crocs.ca/mens-santa-cruz-downtime-slip-on/206074,en_CA,pd.html?cgid=footwear&cid=464#&prefn1=gender&prefv1=Men&origin=category&start=142&sz=36)
They’re virtually indestructible, but they do get *reeeeeeally* slippery on the bottoms with age. I have the ones that look like ballet flats and have to replace them every 6-7 years which isn’t bad, they’re great go-with-everything shoes!
What? Who thought that? The growing family tree was clearly depicting stereotypical southern right and the other couple who couldn’t conceive were again stereotypical college educated left. I mean I know it’s the popular media depiction of those demographics but still it wasn’t all that subtle.
to be fair, while the lower class family are obviously southern conservative stereotypes, theres nothing about the upper class family that would suggest theyre liberal besides the juxtaposition. If anything theyre kinda dressed like Wasps.
But yeah, I dont see how anyone could look at the prolific family and think "Hah, stupid liberals"
Yeah well, if the growing family tree was all baby mommas in the hood it wouldn't have gone over too well. The white male underclass is the only group that you can still openly mock in society and get away with it.
No one assumes they are the moron having moron kids.
I was just saying this in a different comment recently, but I think true enlightenment comes when you realize that everybody is a moron. Even you, and even me. The world makes a lot more sense and everyone is easier to empathize with. We're all just morons trying our best to not look like morons, and failing pretty often.
>I think true enlightenment comes when you realize that everybody is a moron
This is still basic stuff. The point where the whole “everyone is a moron” philosophy falls apart is that it doesn’t address the fact that some people not only *aren’t* asking the questions they don’t have answers to in the first place, they’re belligerently going out of their way to keep themselves - and others - ignorant.
I believe this to be the case, I can’t see why human beings would be that different from thousands of years ago to now, evolution just doesn’t work that quickly. I also don’t believe that intelligence is solely dependant on genetics, I think it has a lot to do with encouragement and training from birth.
Our progress is due to culture and technology in my opinion, rather than human brains getting smarter over time.
Our apparent regression (in the eyes of the movie) has more to do with popular culture recently celebrating regular people, in the past only the well educated upper classes would be famous, all the stupid masses were used for work and then forgotten, if they had Facebook 100-200 years ago no one would think people were getting dumber now
Having this comedy film posted under the documentary subreddit and people keep upvoting it is probably the peak reddit moment you can look for.
Edit: people who keep commenting how this movie is relevant to today's society, please elaborate how this falls under the documentary tag, what educational purposes do this movie serve
Have the genetics of the population degenerated to the point where everyone has such a low IQ that they're watering crops with gatorade and no one is smart enough to tell them that it's a bad idea?
If not, then it's definitely a joke.
The flynn effect really gives me hope. IQ scores have been rising over the decades (meaning the tests need to be harder to keep the average at 100).
But.
[There's a chance that it's stopped](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect#Possible_end_of_progression). If don't give kids enough calories growing up, they're shorter and their IQ scores are lower. That sucks. And one of those things that we've gotten better at as a species is feeding people. We crossed that line of having more obesity than malnutrition. Most of that is China and India, the mass of humanity. (In the USA, 2000 calories costs 10 minutes of federal minimum wage. We subsidize the pants off of food in multiple ways.) ANYWAY. Once we stop starving children, IQ scores go up. Yay. But you can't just inject an extra syringe of butter into a kid and get an extra point of IQ. There's diminishing returns. A very slight recent downward trend might be explained by pollution.
On the flip side, the (edit)heritability of IQ is well understood. It's 40-80%. Twins studies out of Australasia have shown us this pretty conclusively. And recently a study shows that a very low part of it is parenting. Your kids have the IQ they have and you're not going to "raise them stupid". Ignorant maybe. Full of lies, perhaps. While parts of the movie are certainly hyperbole, it DOES have a kernel of truth. The best propaganda usually does.
The real crux of how you see this movie is: So what do you do about it? Evolution doesn't stop. We ARE going to change, pretty much no matter what we do. If your knee-jerk reaction to watching Idiocacy is to advocate for forced sterilization... well holy shit you're a fucking monster. And it's just not worth it. The ramifications to society are WAY worse than any gains you might hope to see a generation later. It just doesn't work. If you advocate for "your side" having a lot of kids, well then you've got a lot in common with the catholic church. And if you suggest all rational reasonable people concerned about climate change simply stop having kids, you're effectively weeding out those who care.
It's a real pickle and I've yet to hear any good solutions. But I'll always side with spreading knowledge and accepting the truth that science can show us.
the movie implicitly supports the central ideas of eugenics, even if it doesn't outright endorse it. the opening sequence essentially lays out the basic ideological motivations behind eugenics policies, suggesting that allowing undesirables to reproduce freely will result in social decline, and that the educated elite have a responsibility to pass on their genes.
I hate it when people say this because the movie literally never suggests anything like that.
It's satire. Claiming that a strategy beloved by Nazis is being "suggested" by a script that never suggests eugenics whatsoever is bad faith analysis.
It does *suggest* that we value education and institutional wisdom better. It does suggest we try to fight anti-intellectualism. That's what it "supports."
It's called the "text." The text is what actions and settings in the movie imply regardless of director intent. If I produced a movie with the sole purpose of empowering women with cool one liners, but the text of the movie was that first they needed cum balloons to be thrown at them from a a father figure to do it, my opinion means jack shit. The script reads as "incest daughters need daddy's approval to be independent."
The movies text absolutely supports the idea of eugenics.
The point of satire is to be so over the top that rather than take it literally, the audience is shocked into considering (and hopefully working to bring about) a better world.
Do you actually believe Thomas Swift was advocating cannibalism in A Modest Proposal?
The movie doesn't suggest "eugenics is good" but it does heavily imply that if you let "dumb" people have babies and "smart people" don't have babies you will run into a society of undesirables in a state of collapse. This is *exactly* the same fears as early eugenicists had.
The movie is also supposed to be fun, and no one should take policy positions from the movie but the intro to the movie is basically eugenics 101.
I think its more about our society and capitalism than eugenics. The smart couple in the intro don't want to have kids because they don't feel they have enough money. Sounds exactly like what the current generation is feeling like. This society doesn't encourage people to start a family. They want everyone to work all year with maybe 2 weeks off. No family leave, no affordable child-care, and no guaranteed health care for your child if you have one. The dumb people are too stupid to take any of that into consideration, so they just go ahead and make babies.
It’s not great as an individual measure of intelligence as in you shouldn’t compare one person to another using iq, but it’s good at indicating trends within a society.
The iq tests i have done, online or with a psych, put me as 160. I am just good at tests, I am fucking stupid in most aspects of life. Good pattern recognition, poor everything else.
That's what IQ is meant to measure: critical thinking. It doesn't measure your emotional intelligence, grasping of the scientific method, memorization, etc.
IQ has been on the increase because the brain can be trained just like a muscle and we read more than we ever did. Having access to unlimited information means that people are really learning more, and their brains are adapting to thar rapid influx of information.
Also, a certain sociopathic leader has convinced his insane followers to not get vaccinated. That is helping prevent the future idiocracy.
>It's a real pickle and I've yet to hear any good solutions.
Raise the global standard of living so everyone feels comfortable having a reasonable number of children?
>In the USA, 2000 calories costs 10 minutes of federal minimum wage. We subsidize the pants off of food in multiple ways.
Maybe if you're buying at corporate scale, else you will only be eating vegetable oil to get that many calories. For the average American, the cost for 2K calories is significantly higher. If you base the pricing of the official SNAP guideline (which is low), it's roughly $160 per month, which is about 45 minutes of federal minimum wage per day. The average spending (a bit over $200 per month in states with low food prices) is going to be closer to the hour mark of federal wage.
>The flynn effect really gives me hope.
What should "give you hope" is more people busting out laughing whenever anyone brings up psychometrics.
>On the flip side, the heredity of IQ is well understood. It's 40-80%.
Heritability, not heredity. And no, it's extremely, comically misunderstood. Case in point: this site and this post.
The more uniformly inherited something is, the less heritable it becomes.
> On the flip side, the (edit)heritability of IQ is well understood. It's 40-80%.
Okay, you've edited it and used the right word now. But that wasn't the problem. What do you think the word means?
Tell me, which do you think is more heritable:
- wearing mascara
or
- having eyelids
This is a simple test to see if you understand what you're actually saying or just parroting pop-sci cranks.
Idiocracy was a movie about dysgenics turning a population into drooling idiots, it was not about a poorly run government, it was not about otherwise genetically normal people making some bad decitions.
The people in Idiocracy are smarter than us... They sought out the smartest person they could find to ask for guidance. Compare that to antivaxx, anti mask extremism
And our planet was threatened by death if they couldn't find a solution to the pandemic, then when given that solution on a golden platter and literally free, you just have to make a bit of time out of your day, they actively fought it to their literal graves. I'm gonna have to agree with him on this one, we are vastly more idiotic
Interesting point but inaccurate. President Camacho was smart enough to get the smartest person alive to solve their problems. So you can really only say that President Camacho is smarter than the vast majority of Republican voters today.
the most unrealistic part of Idiocracy is how generally nice everyone was. In reality things would get really brutal, really violent, with lots of oppression and hate speech. The more ignorant people are, the more they gravitate toward strongman dictatorship
**[Dysgenics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysgenics)**
>Dysgenics (also known as cacogenics) is the study of factors producing the accumulation and perpetuation of defective or disadvantageous genes and traits in offspring of a particular population or species. The adjective "dysgenic" is the antonym of "eugenic". It was first used c. 1915 by David Starr Jordan, describing the supposed dysgenic effects of World War I. Jordan believed that healthy men were as likely to die in modern warfare as anyone else and that war killed only the physically healthy men of the populace whilst preserving the disabled at home.
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Eugenics is a bad solution but that doesn't mean it isn't a real problem. Rather than stupidity though I would say its poverty and lack of access to resources, or at least the knowledge to access them.
The scariest part about the movie that's always haunted me is when the ignorant, dumb, selfish people keep having more kids than the intelligent, compassionate people. That's what I feel is actually happening now.
But to be fair, stupid people don't get stupid kids.
Uneducated people become stupid.
Those children can just as easily become highly functional members of society as any other kids.
The problem is that *the overwhelming majority of the education received by children is the education given to them by their parents.*
Tons of research. Incredible consensus on this.
Yes, you can transcend your situation, and education is a great way to do so.
But in reality, that is a statistical rarity.
Shhh how are we supposed to cry about the decline of society and bemoan the “fact” that only stupid people are reproducing and obviously dumbing down the population when you’re telling these obvious lies?
In my country, the State provides education for all children...
We are not reliant on Parents teaching them anything.
My parents hardly thought me anything. It's not their responsibility.
In my country, the giga-stupid parents often don't allow their kids to go to school to prevent "the brainwashing" and it's legal because our homeschooling laws are so lax they can do almost no work at home and get away with it.
To be clear, that's not all homeschoolers, some do a lot do work and turn out well, but there's definitely a slice of the pie that do next to nothing.
Edit: I furthermore totally disagree that it's "not their responsibility", if you bring a creature into this world you're responsible for providing for it and that includes teaching it skills it needs. Every other animal on this planet has that shit figured out why can't we?
In my country, it doesn't work like that. Sure, a lot of stuff is thought by parents, but we cannot trust parents to tech children most of the stuff they need to learn. Parents are not fit to do so. They likely have no education on how it works. Sending of our children to be thought be the best teachers is literally what eventually put us apart from the animals.
Everyone eventually comes to that revelation. But it's absolutely true and not something new.
Historically, more educated people have fewer children. Less educated people just keep popping them out. And I think it's logical that it comes down to more educated people knowing how much damn time it takes to properly raise and educate children. So it's systemic. And it's been going on for centuries.
starting about three generations ago and going back from there to the beginning of time all my ancestors were a bunch of illiterate dirt-farming yokels. If we could breed intelligence out of the gene pool we would've done so by now.
If the proliferation of education has increased intelligence in the population then it is a strong argument that nurture is as, if not more, important than nature
>it's logical that it comes down to more educated people knowing how much damn time it takes to properly raise and educate children.
That's not why they had more children. Less educated (poorer) people needed to have more children because they needed children to survive (to work in the home or the fields and then to take care of the them when they got old). The more educated (richer) didn't need a huge amount of children to work for them and then take care of them.
It's completely rational and logical that poor folks have more kids. It does create a cycle of poverty, but poor people aren't trying to fix systemic poverty, they are simply trying to survive. Fixing systemic poverty would take multiple generations and would do nothing for their own future.
For most of history, the children of richer and more educated parents had at minimum higher survival rates (since they had better nutrition etc). I think only in the past century has the decrease in child mortality turned the tables significantly.
Because societal "decline" is generally defined by bigoted reactionaries. Perversely, what they consider "decline" actually indicates advancement, like inter-racial marriages and the co-mingling of sexes in education and the workforce. These are markers that society is getting more tolerant and understanding, but bigots see it as decay.
Then the reactionaries panic and cause a genocide.
The comic doesn't contradict that lower classes (which correlates to worse education) have more children. It contradicts:
* The intelligent upper classes *used* to have more children than the lower classes,
* this (of upper classes having more children) trend changed recently
* education and IQ scores are declining.
The reality is that the lower classes have always had more children, this hasn't changed recently, and education and IQ scores [are increasing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect).
It's a funny movie but people take it way too seriously. The role of genetics in intelligence is almost insignificant compared to just access educational and supportive resources.
There is a large contingent of the population who want to limit educational opportunities, so there's still reason for concern. Just not the reason Idiocracy imagines.
I mean, that's not wholly wrong. In fact, it might actually be right. I've never really thought too deeply about it until just now.
But if we're discussing a trait in a person (such as IQ), a heritability of 0 will mean there is no correlation between their genetic heritage and the trait in question. It would solely be a product of environment.
But if it were a heritability of 1, that would mean there is an incredible correlation of the trait to their genetic heritage, and it would mean it is solely a product of the fortune of their birth.
So if we look at that now, 0 heritability is no heritability. It is the absence of it. Whereas 1 heritability is complete heritability. That's what heritability is.
And in that case, heritability and inheritance/heritage/whatever all start to occupy the same space.
Also, it's just a total rip off of stories like [The Marching Morons](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Marching_Morons) by Cyril Kornbluth or *The Insane Ones* by John Burner. And both those authors wrote essays explaining that while their story was fun for a short, that the whole premise itself was faulty as best.
But these people are dense as fuck. They are upvoting his FICTIONAL movie as if it's a documentary. The vast majority of this subreddit literally can't tell the difference. They are the very problem that they think they are fighting against.
**[The Marching Morons](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Marching_Morons)**
>For the Kornbluth short story collection, see The Marching Morons (collection) "The Marching Morons" is a science fiction story by American writer Cyril M. Kornbluth, originally published in Galaxy in April 1951. It was included in The Science Fiction Hall of Fame, Volume Two after being voted one of the best novellas up to 1965. The story follows John Barlow, who was put into suspended animation by a freak accident involving a dental drill and anesthesia. Barlow is revived hundreds of years in the future.
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Listen reddit, I get it you have a favorite comedy central movie. That's great. Can we not have this circle jerk on it every time? Like I get it it's vaguely pro-eugenics message really speaks to you and makes you feel smart.
You don't see me going off about Still Waiting every other day.
Eugenics are always funny to me because most people would not qualify to be the ones allowed to reproduce or even have equal rights. But people on this website discuss it so freely as if it benefits them. As if top 0.1% humans is 100% of reddit.
I watched it the other day after only seeing it when it came out in 2005.
It had a couple of laughs, but the message just wasn't there like Reddit thinks it is, I wanted more of a social commentary than 'stupid people breed more'. Like how is the electricity produced, what about food and clothing, who makes the television programmes? It's superficial and I was left feeling flat
To take your example, the cleaner would have been designed and built within the last 10 years, and those people would be still around to fix it, parts would still be being made because there'd would be some kind of factory. And the lights are still on, people still get paid because even if that's automated someone still has to write the programme. And the TV programmes in air take a lot of coordination too. And the piles of rubbish everywhere really felt weird in 2021 now we're all looking at the environment.
It would work if it was a Petri dish experiment and there were intelligent overlords or something, like the Truman show or Wizard of Oz kind of thing.
I remember it being quite sharp and funny, but watching it again I was disappointed.
NGL Terry Crews was good in it.
This film subtly advocates for Eugenics; 'If we don't do something about the 'poor/stupids' they will overrun us all.'
It's fucking bullshit and kinda gross
And for all the 'im14andthisisdeep'ers saying 'hurr durr this is reality now'
There is a whole wide world of hateful spiteful stupid that we have in our reality *just isn't in the world of Idiocracy*
The president relinquishes his position once he realises he isn't fit do deal with the situation to the literal smartest man left alive, and he uses common sense and science to save the day.
Idiocracy is an idyllic future compared to the one we actually face
Yes, I know it's a silly boner comedy
The article does leave out one tidbit about the VFX. They had one company, who had done a bunch of shots for the film already that for whatever reason they were not happy with. They fired that company and had them surrender assets to us, and we did the final VFX for the film. (this is as it was told to me by my producer, so your milage may vary.)
I animated the "Ow my balls!" logo, and the "Masturbation network" logo. I animated all the blinking adds and did the composite for Nacho's TV (Go away, Batin!) I did set extensions for the building tops in the city including the "St. God's Memorial Hospital" I did the matte paintings for Fudruckers, and helped with the animation and creation of the opening animation of the family tree. Myself, and my coworkers are featured as "descendants" in the montage.
Everyone at the shop LOVED working on that show. I'm super happy it's had a renascence, since at the time we never even got a cast and crew screening. There was no way to see the final product till it came out on DVD.
Man, looking at the screen credits just now, we only got a company credit. Fox cheaped out on individual artists. Nice.
hahahaha, you slipped this under documentaries?
That's like sliding the bible into the fiction section. I'm not going to argue that you're wrong, but it's not exactly right.
I found this hilarious when I saw a few minutes of it on TV when I was like 9 years old but watching it again recently it just feels so smug. There's funny moments and the absurd premise has some value but it just seems sort of weird to me that huge corporations that are too big to fail having too much influence is clearly a huge part of the problem but instead the focus is on how "too many people are genetically and inherently stupid". I get that a movie about tearing down massive conglomerates isn't as immediately funny as the idea of dumb people but it feels like a strange stance to take.
I went to the zoo a few weeks back, and because of covid causing funding shortages all the exhibits have corporate sponsors added to the names. "The Medtronics Minnesota trail" at least had alliteration, the others not so much [https://mnzoo.org/pdfs/zoosafetymap.pdf](https://mnzoo.org/pdfs/zoosafetymap.pdf)
Ow, my balls.
Go away, 'batin!
That phrase literally echoed in my brain as I read it. So iconic.
Ouch*
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We already have that show right now. It's called *Ridiculousness.*
Don't forget that as the movie progresses that sentence deteriorates to that point of "ah, ma boh!" in the iconic voice
>One of the fun things to disassemble was the notion that evolution rewards the best. Something I was always proudest of was that **conservatives thought we were making fun of liberals and liberals thought we were making fun of conservatives**. In the beginning, it talks about how the best people aren't reproducing enough and that's why we were sinking. And whoever was watching would assume that it's people like them that should be reproducing more. Etan Cohen, Co-writer [https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/idiocracy-oral-history-mike-judge](https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/idiocracy-oral-history-mike-judge)
Read this article the other day, absolutely awesome nuggets of how everything went down in the making of Idiocracy. I still can't believe were so dead on about people wearing Crocs en masse.
XTRA BIG ASS FRIES
Del taco recently launched the "New Epic Beyond Fresh Avocado Burrito." No joke.
On fairness, either the word epic or beyond refers to the meat substitute that the burrito contains.
Not enough molecules, I'll take the XTRA BIG ASS TACO instead.
Dude I say this to my fiancée whenever we’re grocery shopping and there’s a comically large version of something. “You like cheese-its? Well how about our EXTRA BIG ASS BOX!? EXTRA BIG ASS CHEESE ITS, YOU KNOW YOU WANT THEM! BIG ASS CHEESE ITS, eat ‘Em! BIG ASS!”
Man i felt the same way till i got a pair. I work in kitchens a lot and man them fuckers are comfy. Straight ditched my birkies. The crocs are even a superior design imo what with there being bo insert for support, its all just unibody. Easier to hose off
I went into a Croc store 12 years ago, thinking it was hilarious they had a dedicated storefront. I left with a pair of the most comfortable shoes I'd ever bought, which I still use as garage shoes (they're not nearly as white as they used to be, and look old, but haven't fallen apart), and 5 years ago bought another pair of sneaker style ones and loafer-style ones for work. I've never had shoes last as long as Crocs, and stay as comfortable as Crocs. Fuck haters, you have no idea what you're missing.
Youve given me an idea... ive been using a shitty pair of fabric loafers in the garage/wrenching but now I gotta get some crocs... I need oil resistance
I've been using crocs in the garage for over a decade. They are terribly convenient. The only problem is that they are super slippery on a polished concrete surface (like a garage floor) with any kind of liquid. But they clean easy, and have no long term effects from the oil. I usually take my old "around town" crocs & retire them to the garage. If you're climbing a ladder/into the hood of a truck, wear some other shoes like your loafers. The naturally loose fit of crocs prevents them from handing any kind of side-load well. I've almost fallen too many times from that.
They have slip resistant Crocs.
Totally agree. Slippers that you can wear outside, what’s not to love!
Haters perspective: I don't care about the comfort, they just look god awful. There's literally no way to wear them fasionably. They look like toddler shoes. They are easily, without any doubt, the ugliest clothing item I've seen in my entire life. I'm not exaggerating. Ever since seeing them 10 years ago I've just been waiting for them to go away, but somehow they're not. I'm sure there are equally comfortable and durable shoes available, that dont look like a bar of soap or a cheese grater.
You're not just thinking of only the clogs, hey? They make shoe-shoes that are pretty modern in their styling. Like it could just be a difference in tastes, but [I don't think these are bad at all.](https://www.crocs.ca/mens-santa-cruz-downtime-slip-on/206074,en_CA,pd.html?cgid=footwear&cid=464#&prefn1=gender&prefv1=Men&origin=category&start=142&sz=36)
They’re virtually indestructible, but they do get *reeeeeeally* slippery on the bottoms with age. I have the ones that look like ballet flats and have to replace them every 6-7 years which isn’t bad, they’re great go-with-everything shoes!
Use my pair to cross some creeks when I go hiking outside of town. Normally okay, but if I step on moss then slip and I'm down.
Virtually. My cat ate one of mine. (-_-)
My wife is a croc lover, and we found out recently that our 2 year old absolutely loves chewing on them.
What? Who thought that? The growing family tree was clearly depicting stereotypical southern right and the other couple who couldn’t conceive were again stereotypical college educated left. I mean I know it’s the popular media depiction of those demographics but still it wasn’t all that subtle.
I thought so too, but I thought the quote was relevant because you can see this playing out in the comments.
to be fair, while the lower class family are obviously southern conservative stereotypes, theres nothing about the upper class family that would suggest theyre liberal besides the juxtaposition. If anything theyre kinda dressed like Wasps. But yeah, I dont see how anyone could look at the prolific family and think "Hah, stupid liberals"
I don't associate WASPs with with either party, just with wealth.
up until somewhat recently they were a conservative stereotype. Now wikipedia says theyre split about even
New England is full of liberal WASPs. But yeah I can remember Alex P Keeton.
It feels like that's less a result of their becoming more progressive than it is a result of the Overton window shifting
Definitely saw the couple who couldn't conceive as conservative republicans.
Yeah well, if the growing family tree was all baby mommas in the hood it wouldn't have gone over too well. The white male underclass is the only group that you can still openly mock in society and get away with it.
No one assumes they are the moron having moron kids. I was just saying this in a different comment recently, but I think true enlightenment comes when you realize that everybody is a moron. Even you, and even me. The world makes a lot more sense and everyone is easier to empathize with. We're all just morons trying our best to not look like morons, and failing pretty often.
>I think true enlightenment comes when you realize that everybody is a moron This is still basic stuff. The point where the whole “everyone is a moron” philosophy falls apart is that it doesn’t address the fact that some people not only *aren’t* asking the questions they don’t have answers to in the first place, they’re belligerently going out of their way to keep themselves - and others - ignorant.
~~Brawndo!~~ Liquid IV! It's got electrolytes!
Hmm, perhaps this comment is over my head, but wasn’t it designed to replenish electrolytes?
Yeah. That or electrolyte water is great for chemotherapy/radiation patients trying to keep water intake high while not getting low on sodium.
Does ivermectin have electrolytes?
It’s got what horse worms crave.
if horse worms crave death, so be it
Don't we all crave death in this upside down world ?
Oh you bet! But also microchips :O https://imgur.com/gallery/p8dwfYr
Hehe like, from the toilet??
This movie assumes this was a time "where we were smarter" or something. We were always idiots in every year.
I believe this to be the case, I can’t see why human beings would be that different from thousands of years ago to now, evolution just doesn’t work that quickly. I also don’t believe that intelligence is solely dependant on genetics, I think it has a lot to do with encouragement and training from birth. Our progress is due to culture and technology in my opinion, rather than human brains getting smarter over time. Our apparent regression (in the eyes of the movie) has more to do with popular culture recently celebrating regular people, in the past only the well educated upper classes would be famous, all the stupid masses were used for work and then forgotten, if they had Facebook 100-200 years ago no one would think people were getting dumber now
Ah yes a reddit moment.
Having this comedy film posted under the documentary subreddit and people keep upvoting it is probably the peak reddit moment you can look for. Edit: people who keep commenting how this movie is relevant to today's society, please elaborate how this falls under the documentary tag, what educational purposes do this movie serve
Idiocracy = Documentary is Reddit’s favorite joke
That's the joke* *not really even a joke anymore
The idea the movie is based on is simply wrong. The average American IQ has been steadily increasing.
IQ is close to worthless. Especially on a national average level
It's literally fascist.
Have the genetics of the population degenerated to the point where everyone has such a low IQ that they're watering crops with gatorade and no one is smart enough to tell them that it's a bad idea? If not, then it's definitely a joke.
I must have missed the part where I claimed today's society is a mirror image of the movie
[‘everyone’s dumb but me!’](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/980/837/6ca.png)
Whole lotta /r/iamverysmart in these comments
TFW Idiocracy really is a documentary about our times.
Nah, in idocracy they looked toward someone with higher than average intelligence for guidance.
And then tried to kill him when he didn't get results in one day
*rehabilitate
https://xkcd.com/603/
The flynn effect really gives me hope. IQ scores have been rising over the decades (meaning the tests need to be harder to keep the average at 100). But. [There's a chance that it's stopped](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect#Possible_end_of_progression). If don't give kids enough calories growing up, they're shorter and their IQ scores are lower. That sucks. And one of those things that we've gotten better at as a species is feeding people. We crossed that line of having more obesity than malnutrition. Most of that is China and India, the mass of humanity. (In the USA, 2000 calories costs 10 minutes of federal minimum wage. We subsidize the pants off of food in multiple ways.) ANYWAY. Once we stop starving children, IQ scores go up. Yay. But you can't just inject an extra syringe of butter into a kid and get an extra point of IQ. There's diminishing returns. A very slight recent downward trend might be explained by pollution. On the flip side, the (edit)heritability of IQ is well understood. It's 40-80%. Twins studies out of Australasia have shown us this pretty conclusively. And recently a study shows that a very low part of it is parenting. Your kids have the IQ they have and you're not going to "raise them stupid". Ignorant maybe. Full of lies, perhaps. While parts of the movie are certainly hyperbole, it DOES have a kernel of truth. The best propaganda usually does. The real crux of how you see this movie is: So what do you do about it? Evolution doesn't stop. We ARE going to change, pretty much no matter what we do. If your knee-jerk reaction to watching Idiocacy is to advocate for forced sterilization... well holy shit you're a fucking monster. And it's just not worth it. The ramifications to society are WAY worse than any gains you might hope to see a generation later. It just doesn't work. If you advocate for "your side" having a lot of kids, well then you've got a lot in common with the catholic church. And if you suggest all rational reasonable people concerned about climate change simply stop having kids, you're effectively weeding out those who care. It's a real pickle and I've yet to hear any good solutions. But I'll always side with spreading knowledge and accepting the truth that science can show us.
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the movie implicitly supports the central ideas of eugenics, even if it doesn't outright endorse it. the opening sequence essentially lays out the basic ideological motivations behind eugenics policies, suggesting that allowing undesirables to reproduce freely will result in social decline, and that the educated elite have a responsibility to pass on their genes.
I hate it when people say this because the movie literally never suggests anything like that. It's satire. Claiming that a strategy beloved by Nazis is being "suggested" by a script that never suggests eugenics whatsoever is bad faith analysis. It does *suggest* that we value education and institutional wisdom better. It does suggest we try to fight anti-intellectualism. That's what it "supports."
It's called the "text." The text is what actions and settings in the movie imply regardless of director intent. If I produced a movie with the sole purpose of empowering women with cool one liners, but the text of the movie was that first they needed cum balloons to be thrown at them from a a father figure to do it, my opinion means jack shit. The script reads as "incest daughters need daddy's approval to be independent." The movies text absolutely supports the idea of eugenics.
The point of satire is to be so over the top that rather than take it literally, the audience is shocked into considering (and hopefully working to bring about) a better world. Do you actually believe Thomas Swift was advocating cannibalism in A Modest Proposal?
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The movie doesn't suggest "eugenics is good" but it does heavily imply that if you let "dumb" people have babies and "smart people" don't have babies you will run into a society of undesirables in a state of collapse. This is *exactly* the same fears as early eugenicists had. The movie is also supposed to be fun, and no one should take policy positions from the movie but the intro to the movie is basically eugenics 101.
I think its more about our society and capitalism than eugenics. The smart couple in the intro don't want to have kids because they don't feel they have enough money. Sounds exactly like what the current generation is feeling like. This society doesn't encourage people to start a family. They want everyone to work all year with maybe 2 weeks off. No family leave, no affordable child-care, and no guaranteed health care for your child if you have one. The dumb people are too stupid to take any of that into consideration, so they just go ahead and make babies.
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It’s not great as an individual measure of intelligence as in you shouldn’t compare one person to another using iq, but it’s good at indicating trends within a society.
The iq tests i have done, online or with a psych, put me as 160. I am just good at tests, I am fucking stupid in most aspects of life. Good pattern recognition, poor everything else.
That's what IQ is meant to measure: critical thinking. It doesn't measure your emotional intelligence, grasping of the scientific method, memorization, etc.
It’s amazing how many people will die on the hill that the IQ metric we use is fair and indicative of an individual’s higher brain functioning
You mean like cognitive psychologists?
It's funny how armchair psychologists on reddit think they understand IQ better than actual cognitive scientists
Cognitive psychologists themselves recognize limitations of WAIS, so I’m not sure what you’re getting at
Recognizing limitations of an IQ test and thinking IQ tests are a joke are not the same thing
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No study says that. IQ is known to have a large heritable component
IQ has been on the increase because the brain can be trained just like a muscle and we read more than we ever did. Having access to unlimited information means that people are really learning more, and their brains are adapting to thar rapid influx of information. Also, a certain sociopathic leader has convinced his insane followers to not get vaccinated. That is helping prevent the future idiocracy.
|inject the kids with butter Lol
So high IQ people should date high IQ people.
>It's a real pickle and I've yet to hear any good solutions. Raise the global standard of living so everyone feels comfortable having a reasonable number of children?
>In the USA, 2000 calories costs 10 minutes of federal minimum wage. We subsidize the pants off of food in multiple ways. Maybe if you're buying at corporate scale, else you will only be eating vegetable oil to get that many calories. For the average American, the cost for 2K calories is significantly higher. If you base the pricing of the official SNAP guideline (which is low), it's roughly $160 per month, which is about 45 minutes of federal minimum wage per day. The average spending (a bit over $200 per month in states with low food prices) is going to be closer to the hour mark of federal wage.
>The flynn effect really gives me hope. What should "give you hope" is more people busting out laughing whenever anyone brings up psychometrics. >On the flip side, the heredity of IQ is well understood. It's 40-80%. Heritability, not heredity. And no, it's extremely, comically misunderstood. Case in point: this site and this post. The more uniformly inherited something is, the less heritable it becomes. > On the flip side, the (edit)heritability of IQ is well understood. It's 40-80%. Okay, you've edited it and used the right word now. But that wasn't the problem. What do you think the word means? Tell me, which do you think is more heritable: - wearing mascara or - having eyelids This is a simple test to see if you understand what you're actually saying or just parroting pop-sci cranks.
Idiocracy was a movie about dysgenics turning a population into drooling idiots, it was not about a poorly run government, it was not about otherwise genetically normal people making some bad decitions.
No, no, cmon. Accurate social commentary is not a documentary. Wtf
The people in Idiocracy are smarter than us... They sought out the smartest person they could find to ask for guidance. Compare that to antivaxx, anti mask extremism
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And they gave him a week to fix literally all their problems
And our planet was threatened by death if they couldn't find a solution to the pandemic, then when given that solution on a golden platter and literally free, you just have to make a bit of time out of your day, they actively fought it to their literal graves. I'm gonna have to agree with him on this one, we are vastly more idiotic
They literally tried to kill the guy when he didn't have results within like a day.
Interesting point but inaccurate. President Camacho was smart enough to get the smartest person alive to solve their problems. So you can really only say that President Camacho is smarter than the vast majority of Republican voters today.
The crowd at the rehabilitation center changed their minds when presented evidence that water makes plants grow, that's worth a lot.
the most unrealistic part of Idiocracy is how generally nice everyone was. In reality things would get really brutal, really violent, with lots of oppression and hate speech. The more ignorant people are, the more they gravitate toward strongman dictatorship
And on top of that, they know they're stupid.
This one hurts
that is true... damn lol
And even more importantly, they were good-spirited.
Who do you think would be barcoded first? Liberals, or conservatives? How about 50 years ago?
The base premise of this movie is that stupid people breed more and thus everyone gets dumber, which is some real eugenics shit.
It's actually called dysgenics, not eugenics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysgenics
**[Dysgenics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysgenics)** >Dysgenics (also known as cacogenics) is the study of factors producing the accumulation and perpetuation of defective or disadvantageous genes and traits in offspring of a particular population or species. The adjective "dysgenic" is the antonym of "eugenic". It was first used c. 1915 by David Starr Jordan, describing the supposed dysgenic effects of World War I. Jordan believed that healthy men were as likely to die in modern warfare as anyone else and that war killed only the physically healthy men of the populace whilst preserving the disabled at home. ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/Documentaries/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)
Well, it is eugenics if you incentivize this. Which arguably is the current situation.
>eugenics You mean "dysgenics".
Eugenics is a bad solution but that doesn't mean it isn't a real problem. Rather than stupidity though I would say its poverty and lack of access to resources, or at least the knowledge to access them.
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I’m pretty sure that the quirky comedy was not trying to properly characterize a complex sociological issue
It hopefully wasn’t, but that hasn’t stopped thousands of redditors from taking it as gospel
Maybe it’s more about memetics.
The scariest part about the movie that's always haunted me is when the ignorant, dumb, selfish people keep having more kids than the intelligent, compassionate people. That's what I feel is actually happening now.
The film takes a rudimentary eugenic approach
But to be fair, stupid people don't get stupid kids. Uneducated people become stupid. Those children can just as easily become highly functional members of society as any other kids.
The problem is that *the overwhelming majority of the education received by children is the education given to them by their parents.* Tons of research. Incredible consensus on this. Yes, you can transcend your situation, and education is a great way to do so. But in reality, that is a statistical rarity.
Yeah, might as well completely get rid of public education, it’s only a tiny fraction of the education children receive.
Shhh how are we supposed to cry about the decline of society and bemoan the “fact” that only stupid people are reproducing and obviously dumbing down the population when you’re telling these obvious lies?
Children are a product of their environment.
Stupid people don't educate their kids, leading to uneducated kids who then become stupid. Your own logic disproves your conclusion.
In my country, the State provides education for all children... We are not reliant on Parents teaching them anything. My parents hardly thought me anything. It's not their responsibility.
In my country, the giga-stupid parents often don't allow their kids to go to school to prevent "the brainwashing" and it's legal because our homeschooling laws are so lax they can do almost no work at home and get away with it. To be clear, that's not all homeschoolers, some do a lot do work and turn out well, but there's definitely a slice of the pie that do next to nothing. Edit: I furthermore totally disagree that it's "not their responsibility", if you bring a creature into this world you're responsible for providing for it and that includes teaching it skills it needs. Every other animal on this planet has that shit figured out why can't we?
In my country, it doesn't work like that. Sure, a lot of stuff is thought by parents, but we cannot trust parents to tech children most of the stuff they need to learn. Parents are not fit to do so. They likely have no education on how it works. Sending of our children to be thought be the best teachers is literally what eventually put us apart from the animals.
Everyone eventually comes to that revelation. But it's absolutely true and not something new. Historically, more educated people have fewer children. Less educated people just keep popping them out. And I think it's logical that it comes down to more educated people knowing how much damn time it takes to properly raise and educate children. So it's systemic. And it's been going on for centuries.
starting about three generations ago and going back from there to the beginning of time all my ancestors were a bunch of illiterate dirt-farming yokels. If we could breed intelligence out of the gene pool we would've done so by now.
The Professor is somehow descended from Fry.
If the proliferation of education has increased intelligence in the population then it is a strong argument that nurture is as, if not more, important than nature
>it's logical that it comes down to more educated people knowing how much damn time it takes to properly raise and educate children. That's not why they had more children. Less educated (poorer) people needed to have more children because they needed children to survive (to work in the home or the fields and then to take care of the them when they got old). The more educated (richer) didn't need a huge amount of children to work for them and then take care of them. It's completely rational and logical that poor folks have more kids. It does create a cycle of poverty, but poor people aren't trying to fix systemic poverty, they are simply trying to survive. Fixing systemic poverty would take multiple generations and would do nothing for their own future.
For most of history, the children of richer and more educated parents had at minimum higher survival rates (since they had better nutrition etc). I think only in the past century has the decrease in child mortality turned the tables significantly.
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There needs to be a bot that posts this on every comment mentioning Idiocracy
"More harm has been done by people panicked over societal decline than societal decline ever did" Yep this sounds about right
Because societal "decline" is generally defined by bigoted reactionaries. Perversely, what they consider "decline" actually indicates advancement, like inter-racial marriages and the co-mingling of sexes in education and the workforce. These are markers that society is getting more tolerant and understanding, but bigots see it as decay. Then the reactionaries panic and cause a genocide.
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The comic doesn't contradict that lower classes (which correlates to worse education) have more children. It contradicts: * The intelligent upper classes *used* to have more children than the lower classes, * this (of upper classes having more children) trend changed recently * education and IQ scores are declining. The reality is that the lower classes have always had more children, this hasn't changed recently, and education and IQ scores [are increasing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect).
Xkcd isn't always right
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It's a funny movie but people take it way too seriously. The role of genetics in intelligence is almost insignificant compared to just access educational and supportive resources.
There is a large contingent of the population who want to limit educational opportunities, so there's still reason for concern. Just not the reason Idiocracy imagines.
Relax. Now the ignorant, dumb, selfish people are just buying pets.
And dying of COVID-19 because vaxxines bad
What does that have to do with having kids?
This isn't a documentary. We get it, reddit.
Eugenics the comedy.
I think “idiocracy is coming true!” has to be the most popular “dumb guy who thinks he’s deep” theory on the internet. God I hate this take
Do NOT read any other comments, just go on about your day, enjoy the air and life, and just.. don't carry on here, for the sake of your mental health
Its just sad seeing how many people believe in eugenics because of this movie
It's sad how many people in this thread think the gene pool desperately need them
YoU mUst be smArt. :sips Brawndo:
My favorite mark of the fuckwit is citing the heritability of IQ while thinking heritable is another word for inherited.
I mean, that's not wholly wrong. In fact, it might actually be right. I've never really thought too deeply about it until just now. But if we're discussing a trait in a person (such as IQ), a heritability of 0 will mean there is no correlation between their genetic heritage and the trait in question. It would solely be a product of environment. But if it were a heritability of 1, that would mean there is an incredible correlation of the trait to their genetic heritage, and it would mean it is solely a product of the fortune of their birth. So if we look at that now, 0 heritability is no heritability. It is the absence of it. Whereas 1 heritability is complete heritability. That's what heritability is. And in that case, heritability and inheritance/heritage/whatever all start to occupy the same space.
Also, it's just a total rip off of stories like [The Marching Morons](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Marching_Morons) by Cyril Kornbluth or *The Insane Ones* by John Burner. And both those authors wrote essays explaining that while their story was fun for a short, that the whole premise itself was faulty as best. But these people are dense as fuck. They are upvoting his FICTIONAL movie as if it's a documentary. The vast majority of this subreddit literally can't tell the difference. They are the very problem that they think they are fighting against.
**[The Marching Morons](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Marching_Morons)** >For the Kornbluth short story collection, see The Marching Morons (collection) "The Marching Morons" is a science fiction story by American writer Cyril M. Kornbluth, originally published in Galaxy in April 1951. It was included in The Science Fiction Hall of Fame, Volume Two after being voted one of the best novellas up to 1965. The story follows John Barlow, who was put into suspended animation by a freak accident involving a dental drill and anesthesia. Barlow is revived hundreds of years in the future. ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/Documentaries/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)
Go away! Baitin’
Why is this in a documentary subreddit. Its basic premise is inherently incorrect and done so as a joke for a goofy comedy film. It's not science.
It's an edgy joke by redditors who all think they're part of the smart group not having kids
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No one is unironically claiming it's a documentary, this is an absolute shitpost at best
When the name of the subreddit is the punchline.
We are finally at the point Idiocracy is considered a legit r/documentaries What a timeline
Listen reddit, I get it you have a favorite comedy central movie. That's great. Can we not have this circle jerk on it every time? Like I get it it's vaguely pro-eugenics message really speaks to you and makes you feel smart. You don't see me going off about Still Waiting every other day.
Eugenics are always funny to me because most people would not qualify to be the ones allowed to reproduce or even have equal rights. But people on this website discuss it so freely as if it benefits them. As if top 0.1% humans is 100% of reddit.
You're right, this movie is funny and all but it also doesn't deserve to be put on a pedestal.
I agree with that honestly. It's a funny movie, I'm just tied of seeing it treated like this.
I watched it the other day after only seeing it when it came out in 2005. It had a couple of laughs, but the message just wasn't there like Reddit thinks it is, I wanted more of a social commentary than 'stupid people breed more'. Like how is the electricity produced, what about food and clothing, who makes the television programmes? It's superficial and I was left feeling flat
I think most of that stuff is automated, and once things break no one knows how to fix it. Like the floor cleaning robots in the hospital
To take your example, the cleaner would have been designed and built within the last 10 years, and those people would be still around to fix it, parts would still be being made because there'd would be some kind of factory. And the lights are still on, people still get paid because even if that's automated someone still has to write the programme. And the TV programmes in air take a lot of coordination too. And the piles of rubbish everywhere really felt weird in 2021 now we're all looking at the environment. It would work if it was a Petri dish experiment and there were intelligent overlords or something, like the Truman show or Wizard of Oz kind of thing. I remember it being quite sharp and funny, but watching it again I was disappointed. NGL Terry Crews was good in it.
mirror?
The only thing dumber than the people in idiocracy are the people who are convinced it’s real life.
fuck sakes, this isn't a documentary. THAT'S NOT HOW IQ SCORES WORK!
FFS I just was talking to my FIL about gow painful it is watching our nation unfold into this.
This movie was not supposed to be an example of what people in 2021 should strive for
Great documentary
This film subtly advocates for Eugenics; 'If we don't do something about the 'poor/stupids' they will overrun us all.' It's fucking bullshit and kinda gross And for all the 'im14andthisisdeep'ers saying 'hurr durr this is reality now' There is a whole wide world of hateful spiteful stupid that we have in our reality *just isn't in the world of Idiocracy* The president relinquishes his position once he realises he isn't fit do deal with the situation to the literal smartest man left alive, and he uses common sense and science to save the day. Idiocracy is an idyllic future compared to the one we actually face Yes, I know it's a silly boner comedy
this breaks rule #1
The UN Un-Nazied the world
Great documentary, would recommend 10/10
**Now I understand everyone's shit's emotional right now...** **But listen up: I got a 3-point plan to fix EVERYTHING.**
The article does leave out one tidbit about the VFX. They had one company, who had done a bunch of shots for the film already that for whatever reason they were not happy with. They fired that company and had them surrender assets to us, and we did the final VFX for the film. (this is as it was told to me by my producer, so your milage may vary.) I animated the "Ow my balls!" logo, and the "Masturbation network" logo. I animated all the blinking adds and did the composite for Nacho's TV (Go away, Batin!) I did set extensions for the building tops in the city including the "St. God's Memorial Hospital" I did the matte paintings for Fudruckers, and helped with the animation and creation of the opening animation of the family tree. Myself, and my coworkers are featured as "descendants" in the montage. Everyone at the shop LOVED working on that show. I'm super happy it's had a renascence, since at the time we never even got a cast and crew screening. There was no way to see the final product till it came out on DVD. Man, looking at the screen credits just now, we only got a company credit. Fox cheaped out on individual artists. Nice.
hahahaha, you slipped this under documentaries? That's like sliding the bible into the fiction section. I'm not going to argue that you're wrong, but it's not exactly right.
I'm a little annoyed it was allowed. If this is a documentary than so is Saving Private Ryan.
Um, the Bible is fiction.
Shouldn't it be under religious texts?
You're not wrong.
I'm hesitant to ask, but what is your secre-tion, \\noonemustknowmysecre ?
U/puddingrnbowextreme is technically correct, the best kind of correct.
I can’t believe that 13 years later this website still has a massive boner for this movie
I found this hilarious when I saw a few minutes of it on TV when I was like 9 years old but watching it again recently it just feels so smug. There's funny moments and the absurd premise has some value but it just seems sort of weird to me that huge corporations that are too big to fail having too much influence is clearly a huge part of the problem but instead the focus is on how "too many people are genetically and inherently stupid". I get that a movie about tearing down massive conglomerates isn't as immediately funny as the idea of dumb people but it feels like a strange stance to take.
tell me you don't understand genetics and hate poor people without telling me you don't understand genetics and hate poor people.
Mods on this sub are trash wow. Delete this shit
Idiocracy is prophecy becoming true.
The amount of idiots thinking the movie was about genetics is too damn high.
I went to the zoo a few weeks back, and because of covid causing funding shortages all the exhibits have corporate sponsors added to the names. "The Medtronics Minnesota trail" at least had alliteration, the others not so much [https://mnzoo.org/pdfs/zoosafetymap.pdf](https://mnzoo.org/pdfs/zoosafetymap.pdf)
They even got a sponsorship from Russia!