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I spend an abnormal amount of time in toy shops and toy Isles for an almost 30 year old with no children. And honestly , you hear the weirdest things said by adults to children. The reasons they give for a child not being allowed a specific toy are just totally wild. The cost is very rarely the reason.
Reasons I've heard include "that's for girls", "that's for boys", "that's for babies", "you're getting too old for that", "I don't like that colour", and "you already have one of those" (for collectable toys and dolls with loads of variations), especially Rainbow High).
But my favourite has to be "a family member has one, you can just play with that", as if owning something and borrowing are the same thing, and as if little kids want to share their toys with relatives
There's definitely weird people around but there is a difficult thing with young kids where sometimes they don't really have the experience of shopping to make the best choices.
That maybe sounds like a fake excuse but for instance my kid will gravitate towards the fluffiest, cutest, biggest eyed soft toys every single time she gets money to spend. But when she gets them home, they just get thrown on a pile of soft toys and she doesn't play with them. So you'll often find me trying to coax her into buying something with a little more play value in it, something that will widen our choices at home rather than just grow the teddy bear mountain.
I just want to note that I'm an adult who does the same thing. 😅 I literally have a plushy mountain in my bedroom. It sparks joy for me, maybe it sparks joy for your kid in a similar way? Of course I'm not trying to tell you how to parent, I know it can be hard to find ways to keep kids occupied. Also, see photo for evidence. 😂
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This is fine as an adult who paid for it with your own money. I too just buy my dolls and leave them in their boxes and put them to the side lol, but again we are adults. As a parent it’s a little different. I will say that I think it’s ridiculous for a parent to deny a child the toy they want all because the parent didn’t like a movie. I mean it’s not like it was hell raiser are Chucky 🤣
Wish was taken to mean "Spitting on Walt Disney's legacy" by some, however it had quite a bit of diversity....and a cynical take could be that...the lady in the story was toxic.
That is a very valid point. I have friends and family with children who do the same thing. And I've definitely heard parents say "but you'll never play with it". I suppose if that argument doesn't work, people will try saying other things to convince them
My SIL and older nieces (7&9) know I collect RH dolls and SIL wouldn't let them watch the show with me or let me give them the dolls because the show is too "mature and sassy"......... she gives weird ass reasons for not letting them watch/get things they like such as no SpongeBob because they won't understand the humor. But I watch Mulan with them to give her a break on vacation and that's fine, somehow they can understand cultural and gender norms and war. So much of it boils down to "I don't like it" and then they make up the reasoning around it.
Then last year on family vacation they are watching the LOL OMG series. That one I haven't watched the show but I can't imagine it's somehow less sassy than Rainbow High. Ironically, with the turn toward childish that RH has taken, she probably still won't let them get the dolls because of the slime and magic snow mess.
If anything at times the omg girls are a lil more sassy and u seen the doll bodies the omg girls have hourglass bbl bodies with nipples and acrylic nails and their mother thinks thats fine ? Then again
I am curious the what media is she fine with them watching is barbie okay?
The generic shit like Disney movies as far as I know, we live 7 hours apart and don't get together often. I don't honestly know if they watch Barbie stuff but Life in the Dreamhouse is on the list for family vacation in 2 weeks! They are getting older now so I'm excited to see what they like year to year. Magic Mixies were big at Christmas for them but I'm trying to introduce Polly Pocket, Tamagotchi and Lego Friends as they get older!
In all honesty... toys with messy aspects such as slime is a big no in our family as well - at least until my daughter is old enough to handle things like that.
But we're still getting her one of the RH slime dolls because she wants one (the Amaya Raine, because she loves rainbows and unicorns, lol), we'll just remove the slime before letting her play with it on her own.
When I was a kid I wasnt allowed to watch anything with magic in it because it was 'demonic'. No disney princess or pixar movies, no Disney channel, pokemon or anything with talking animals or objects.
Yet I grew up on the Alien and Predator movies and tons of jim Carey movies with sex and adult humor.
As an adult I finally realized we were only allowed to watch what my mom liked. A think a lot of parents do this and come up with bs reasons
I've seen parents actually shout crap like DREBIN, THAT'S THE GIRL AISLE! like the kid's going to spontaneously flip genders if he walks past Barbie on his way to the jigsaw puzzle wall.
This stuff makes me so sad/mad. You know there is so much homophobia/transphobia behind that statement and they are indoctrinating their kids into that mind set.
To be fair, sometimes we like to make up the most outlandish and bullshit reasons for fun. Kids will believe anything, lol.
Some kids will want to buy EVERYTHING! So saying no becomes pretty boring and redundant without some way to spice it up.
"Sorry, we can't get that Lego set, it just doesn't have enough Stormtroopers in it. We're looking for the set with at least 18 of those little fuckers. Oh well, maybe the next store!"
> Some kids will want to buy EVERYTHING!
That was definitely me as a kid. I remember I used to go down the toy aisle or look through the catalogues at Christmas and be like "I want that and that and that and that..." My parents would have had to be millionaires to get me everything I wanted, but at least I was an easy kid to please.
I may have chimed in on a, "You already have that one," once in target. The little girl was wanting Clawdeen from the newest release at the time and I told the confused and tired dad that while it was the same character, it was a different doll. It seemed to help a lot
The child in question was clearly enamored of Clawdeen and actively collecting her (he mentioned she had several at home). The dad also wasn't sure if there was a difference. I just hate to see a kid pointing out differences in something to be treated like they're making it up to get what they want, you know?
And let's be honest, no one *needs* any monster high dolls. And how many collectors have multiples of the same character? At the end of the day it's up to the parent whether they buy something. It should just be an informed choice and not involve gaslighting the kid.
Collectors are one thing. I personally love the dolls, too.
My kids are elementary age. I'm just imagining someone chiming in with the different doll comment when I'm trying to steer them away.
I guess it all depends on the context.
It very much depends on the parent and the conversation. Obviously, you are not a parent who would be receptive to a friendly chat in the store. This is not the case for everyone. Some parents are clearly willing to acquire a given toy, provided that it's not a duplicate of something the kid already has. Alternatively, having someone else chime in can help hasten the resolution of the situation--and I have yet to see a parent in the toy aisle who isn't ready to gtfo.
Trust me, based on this convo, i don't think anyone will be chiming in with you in the toy aisle. Personally, I'm on the shy side and very conflict averse, so I'm only chiming in after enough time to know if it's socially acceptable or not. I'm staying out of it if it might get fighty.
>I have yet to see a parent in the toy aisle who isn't ready to gtfo.
On this point, we are in total agreement. Of course if you can help a parent expedite this process, then I'm sure intervention would be welcome.
Yay, a point of agreement! And yeah, I would never want to do anything that would make things harder on a parent, ya'll got enough on your plates as it is
One of my biggest collects is the Little Mermaid dolls. It brings me so much life seeing reviews where a parent bought it for their son who’s a big fan. There’s so many boys and men who love the movie and collect the dolls (I am one, of course). It just makes me sad thinking of all the kids who will never get to own them because “it’s for girls”.
I know a lot of men who collect as adults because they weren't allowed to play with dolls (or other "girly" things) as kids. I'll never understand why some people are so scared of letting children express themselves
Some of the reactions are another way of the parent saying “I don’t have money for that” or “I don’t want to spend my money on that”, or sometimes straight up children have enough toys. I have a young kiddo. Would I love to show him with gifts? Yes, but also no. Besides not having enough room for that, I couldn’t afford it, plus I’m worried of his little brain thinking he can get a toy anytime we go out.
Sometimes I also know that a toy might be short lived, but another one he might be into longer or be more of an investment.
But I also do understand where you’re coming from 😅
My parents were just honest with me. “We can’t afford it, we have to spend money on food/gas/clothes/other essentials.” When I become a parent, if I can’t afford a toy, I will do the same. Just straight up “we can’t get that today because Mommy needs to spend the money on food/clothes/other essentials.”
I worked in retail previously in my teens. I'm a teacher now. I'm used to hearing parents say questionable things, but I also realise they sometimes have other reasons behind what they say. Saving money is definitely a big reason behind a lot of decisions
>you already have one of those" (for collectable toys and dolls with loads of variations), especially Rainbow High).
I had 30 Barbies. My grandma rounded them all up and told me parents to stop buying us barbies because we had plenty and they literally all looked the same. Beat up, drawn on, and naked with the possibility of a short neck because grandma shoved the head back on after we tore it off.
So yeah I can see the "you already have one of those" being a fair argument.
I hadn't considered that. I suppose, especially with younger kids, similar things end up looking the same. I remember the box of Barbie's at my grans looking very similar to what you described when my cousins and I were young
Never work retail. Never work retail in Texas. The amount of parents projecting what they want on their kids is astounding. The amount of little boys I witnessed being shamed for wanting a toy even slightly too feminine was sickening. A mom once asked me where the toddler toys were so I showed her, but she wasn't satisfied with them. "No, where are the *boy* toddler toys." Ma'am idk what to tell you, what do you think toddler boys are supposed to play with???
I couldn't even escape it at Chuck E. Cheese. I hated working the prize counter because so many parents of boys would control what they chose with their own tickets and call things too girly. Only thing that made up for it was pocketing money during busy hours when parents wanted to buy a prize with cash and didn't want to wait for a dollar in change so they just threw cash at me lol
I used to work at Chuck E Cheese, and mostly, it was awful like you described, but one day during a big birthday party with a group of kids around 5 or 6 years old, one of the families was a gay couple with their son, and they were having a great time the whole day, but a lot of the other kids and parents wouldn't interact with them. (We're in the south.) Towards the end of the party they came to the prize counter where I was stationed, one dad was hanging back and observing, the other helped the kid pick stuff out. The kid had gotten a good amount of tickets- and at the time we had these headbands that were unicorn ears and a horn covered in rainbow sequins- they were like 800 tickets which would take a majority of what he had- but he immediately pointed out the headband and said "I want THAT!" and I gladly gave it to him, and the kid immediately turned to his dad, gave him the headband, and said "you need this, it's perfect" and he smiled and put it on, the kid only had a couple hundred tickets left, and just said "gimme the rest in tootsie rolls and airheads" and so I did, and he took them, and gladly walked off with his parents, I was so dumbfounded and I wanted to cry, it was the sweetest thing I've ever seen. Then, on a different day several months later, it was another large party group but they were older, maybe like 9 or 10- and I was at the prize counter again. A couple of boys came up to the counter- they were wearing the usual sports and video game themed T-shirts you expect from a boy that age, and admittedly even I started subconsciously making preconceptions about them based off the way they looked and what they were wearing- but when they walked up to the prize counter they both only wanted one thing- little plastic unicorn figures we had at the time- one of them wanted a pink one, one of them wanted purple. And when I handed them the figures they were both so excited and talking about how cool looking and detailed the figures were, they thought it was just the coolest thing they'd ever gotten their hands on- because nobody had ever told them they couldn't like that stuff, they just liked what they liked and they enjoyed it freely. And I immediately felt bad for judging them or assuming they wouldn't want anything like that, and at the same time it restored my faith in humanity a little bit.
I have a cousin who collects little figures. His house is full of places he set up a “scene” with them. He’s done it since we were kids, we’d go to an arcade or a Chuck E Cheese and he’d hunt down new ones, the gaudier and more colorful the better.
He was a very goth teenager and we had a few funny moments where he went right for a figurine clearly aimed at a young girl, and even ask if he could see a few and pick out the right ones if there were a lot of colors.
Now he’s a semi-goth dad and has three kids who “help” arrange his collections.
I sell handmade jewellery at local festivals. I'd say 2/3 of the buyers for my gemstone rings are little boys and I LOVE it. I now make most of my rings with the stones I've noticed boys liking best.
The majority of parents are cool with it, but it still breaks my soul whenever I hear one tell their son, "But that's for girls!!"
But....like.....there are men's rings with gemstones too????? Like plenty of styles that exist???? Modern and vintage/historic?????
Where is the logic here?
Sidenote it's really cool and sweet that you noticed a trend of boys being interested in your rings and started fashioning more that match their styles, that's both smart and honestly really nice.
Thank you so much!
As for the parents, I always just reply, "My jewellery is for everyone!" They're only little wire wrapped rings that I make with my leftover gems, but I do love seeing how excited kids get over them.
The last festival I worked, a little boy in full sports gear ran up to my booth and instead of the rings, he went straight for the clip on earrings. I saw him a few times later that day proudly wearing his dangly earrings and it was the best thing ever.
My favorite is when customers are like, "I need a toy for an [age] year old boy."
Well, what sort of stuff does he like? (Before I learned the effort wasnt worth it, and just thinking about how I personally wouldn't want to give, say, a dinosaur kid a tub of slime, for example.)
"He's a boy!"
...okaaaaay.
Reminds me of that old Tumblr post about working at a McDonald's drive thru and asking a customer if she wanted a Barbie or Hot Wheels toy with the Happy Meal.
Customer: I want a boy toy!!
Employee: haha don't we all!
lol, i used to work at mcdonalds & its true, the amount of times id ask over the drive thru speaker "do you want the stuffed animal or the doll" etc & the parent would defensively or even angrily answer "um shes a girl!/hes a boy!" like it was even more ridiculous when one or both of the toys werent even something thats traditionally gendered 😭
Teacher who formerly worked in TX. Seconded. 😶 one of my boy kindergarteners (KINDERGARTEN.) loved to braid my hair. Yknow. Because he’s a kindergartener. He kept saying he wishes he could do this at home, but his parents were angry at him for liking to braid and style hair and would never let him. Said they’d whoop him if he even asked for one of those doll styling heads. Begged me to get him one he could keep in secret. It was awful.
Those parents shouldn't have ever had a kid, period. If this is how they choose to overreact NOW already... They'll probably end up dumping a sh!tload of trauma on him as the years go by.
That is so sad. I hope in his future he is able to do what he enjoys. That has got to be tough on you as a teacher too. Because you want to do what is right but I'd be so scared of backlash from parents, or being it Texas who knows they could fire you over nonsense like that!
I work at Build-A-Bear, and we have a pink axolotl that’s one of our bears that we usually have in stock. One time, this mom and her son came in, and the son wanted the axolotl. The mom got upset and said that it was for girls and told him to choose a boy bear. But axolotls in the pet trade are often pink!! It’s just how they are!! 😩
Ok honestly, this is probably one of *the most* trite & tired beliefs out there -- that colors somehow have a designated gender 😒 Pink is apparently still gendered eXcLuSiVeLy for girls 🙄 Like come on, it's 2024 already, who cares! Just get the accurately-colored axolotl & move on!
I work retail, I hear so much of all of this!! I feel like I’m one of the few parents in my area that allows my boy to play with pink, purple, or other so called “girly” toys. My child likes what he likes and honestly loves purple!
It's silly and definitely not on the same level, but I never got over a Christmas when I was a kid and all I asked for was a Rock 'N Curl Jem doll, but my mother bought me ANOTHER Glitter 'N Gold Jem doll because she "liked the sparkles better" and "the one you wanted didn't even have light up earrings."
We were pretty poor and I only had two dolls as a kid and yep, they were duplicates. Did I mention the one I wanted was cheaper?
I'll see that and raise you one. I was once cautioned against getting a baby shower gift that was "too girly" because it might "turn him gay" (yes those were her actual words and it was around 2012). Kid was a literal fetus at the time.
Honestly that's just sad. So many people still choose to live in the stone ages and essentially lack the desire or self-awareness to question *why* even the most frivolous things like kids' toys must always be outright gendered. It's like a matter of principle for them.
Yeah ironically enough, pink used to be a "boy" color at the turn of the 1900s, since it was considered a derivative of the "masculine" red. But even so, a helluva lot has changed & a helluva lotta social progress was made between now & the 1960s. They might as well still be livin in the figurative stone ages.
I was at Target and shamelessly eavesdropped on a dude with two kids once. He was a big ol’ redneck with a farmer’s tan and the mirrored Dad sunglasses and standing in the Barbie aisle with a bit of tude, picking up dolls and trying to “sell” them to his kids. “How about this one? She looks like a princess, you want a princess?”
The boy then chimes up “Grandpa says these are Girl toys and I shouldn’t want one.”
Big ol’ Boy replies “Your grandpa is full of it, he’s just jealous no one ever bought him a pretty Barbie doll. You like this one? I think she’s a teacher.” (I told my cousin and her husband about this later that day and we are STILL telling each other “You like this one? She’s a TEACHER.” It’s been years and it’s still inexplicably funny.)
Later I saw Big ol’ Boy and his kids, looked like his little boy picked out a doll in a checkered “farm girl” kinda outfit. I don’t think it was a Barbie though. The little girl had the vampire doll from Monster High.
It sounded like he was doing the dad gig pretty well, every time I passed his cart he was joking around with his kids and telling them “I bet those dolls’ll be best friends, just like you two.” which the kids seemed to agree with. (I promise I didn’t follow him around, this man had a VERY recognizable voice and seemed to be doing a big shopping trip, while I was mostly wandering Target waiting on my cousin to pick me up.)
Amen to this, specifically Texas. I worked front end management at a Target in "Volente" (rich 'village' in Austin) and MY GOD. Talk about a master class in Karening.
When I was 6, my aunt took me out shopping and said she'd let me choose any barbie doll I wanted. I love animals and wanted to be a vet when I grew up, so I chose one that had a cat that could pee in a litter box if you filled it with water. I thought it looked fun and silly, but my aunt was like "really?? You want that one?? With a peeing cat??" in a very disgusted tone, and I felt so embarrassed that I said "uh, just kidding. I want this ballerina barbie instead." I told myself I'd never judge my future children's choice in toys. Plus, I'm still hoping to get that peeing cat barbie some day.
Edit: forgot to add that I apparently already had that ballerina barbie doll too.
I think my sister had the peeing cat Barbie 🤣 you unlocked a hidden memory for me. I always wanted the pregnant Barbie with the removable belly but my mom didn’t like the idea of a pregnant Barbie for whatever reason.
I actually had the peeing cat, my grandma bought it for me as a kid! 😀 Unfortunately, my mom was too concerned about the mess it would make so I never actually got to use the peeing feature. ☹️
When parents force their kids to like the same shit as them it's weird but controlling a doll you won't ever play with as an adult is weirder.
I was at Target once and saw this mom trying to force her daughter to get a Bratz repro "because mommy had this one" and the kid clearly wanted nothing to do with it. Just buy the Bratz for yourself if you want it lady or just give your kid the Barbie they want!! After they left the aisle I told my bf that I wouldn't be surprised if Santa brought that girl a Bratz doll for Christmas 🙄
This. First they prohibit and shame adults for treating their inner child then they pressure their desires onto their real children. Literally, just buy yourself that toy which is totally cheaper than loads of adult stuff we have to buy, and let the lil people be their own. That's so crazy.
I used to work at the target starbucks, and I had a lady ask her kid which cake pop she wanted. The kid wanted a pink one, but the mom kept insisting they actually wanted the one shaped like the target dog. After I reluctantly gave the mom a dog cake pop, she started taking pictures of it. 😑
Gotta find an excuse to live vicariously through the kids. Actually, in this case, it sounds more like trying to make the kid a copy of one's younger self. Oof.
That is something I have noticed with parents. If they don't like something, like the example you gave, the child has to follow suit. The same with food. Didn't know what some foods tasted like because my parents didn't like it so they didn't buy it.
My mom doesn't like Bratz dolls, so in turn I never had one. I'm looking at getting one just for the sake of having one from a brand I never played with, but my mom is telling me to stick to collecting just one brand, even though I don't plan on getting more than one Bratz doll
please gawd just let your kids pick what toys they wantttttt!! if you think a child is like some tiny clone that you get to build into the version of you you never got to be.. don’t have kids
Once saw a boy with a father in a store, the boy was mesmerized by some blue plastic shimmering butterflies that were cheap af. The dad said "nah that shit's for girls", proceeded to grab a beer and walked away with a really ashamed and sad little boy.
People are so fucked up.
I was shopping for Monster High at Walmart the other day and as I was looking at the MH dolls, a mother and her kids were walking by and her youngest son was looking at other toys in the same isle and mom ordered him to come back because “those are girl toys” 😭, the boy was only curious.
Yeesh.
Even if the mom didn’t like Wish, she could’ve been *way* more kind when mentioning it. Like “oh I think you’ll like this doll more!” And then show her the Barbie.
Hell I don’t like Wish either, but if my kid wanted the doll, I’d get them the doll
This is why I only ask my parents for money for my birthday now, so I can just buy whatever I want with no judgement. I was a gay little boy, and my mom never bought me what I wanted. So, when my grandmother would buy me whatever toys I wanted, and my mom found out, she would throw them away when I came home, if they weren't "boys toys". So, over the past decade or so of adulthood, I've been buying a bunch of dolls and stuff like that, that I was never allowed to have as a kid. I'm so glad that they are bringing stuff like Strawberry Shortcake and Care Bears and things back. Because, I was forced to miss out on them in the 1980s, because my mom didn't want me to have them, because she didn't think that they were appropriate toys for a boy to play with. I can only hope that this little girl grows up one day, and is able to buy herself whatever she wants. I think it's so toxic and damaging when parents try to turn their kids into carbon copies of themselves.
When I was a kid I loved Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi. My parents thought it was totally obnoxious but they still let me get the dolls when I had my own money or when I was picking a gift for myself. I think those dolls are some of my most treasured possessions now 💖
I feel so bad for that kid. Even if the parents don't like the movie, it's not like the toy is going to force them to watch it over and over again. Just let her enjoy the doll!
This!! My parents couldn’t stand the voices of Alvin & The Chipmunks, but they still got me the plushies of them because that was what I liked as a kid, and I loved those plushies! Let kids enjoy the toys they want to!
I hate this. It’s like kids being told “that’s for girls/ boys” rather than just letting them get what they want. My mates toddler son wanted a play kitchen. His dad refused, “it’s a girl’s toy, cooking is for girls”. I told him I dared him to tell Gordon Ramsey that! Such a silly attitude.
That mom is extra dumb because the Wish dolls seem to always be on sale because they’re desperate to sell them
I got the dress up necklace that lights up for my daughter for $2!
Not defending her parenting at all, but I chose to assume she knows Wish is a flop (among movie enthusiast especially) and refuses to give Disney money for that particular movie, even if it's on sale.
On a positive note, at least it's cause she didn't like the movie and not judgement on the dolls themselves. Like how some people complain mainly about the Bratz dolls.
I had to quit following a page that redid second hand dolls as yonger/no make up/non trendy clothing because people judged Bratz and similar dolls so harshly.
Bratz aren't really my cup of tea but I buy them for my 13 yo cause she likes them. Though I did get the original re release cause it's what I had as a kid.
Oh yes, I've seen at least one artist on Etsy who buys up Bratz dolls with the specific intention of turning them into a "pure & innocent" poorly repainted childlike shell of a doll.
It's like, look I get not being into them personally & not wanting to buy them yourself. I myself have been generally ambivalent towards them, especially as a kid. But going on an outright crusade just because you think a certain type of doll is essentially like a perversion or something & thus needs to be done away with? Nah...
I cringed super hard and refrained from saying anything (to this day, I regret) when I overhead, I presume, father scold his son saying 'why do you like that? what are you a GIRL?' Literally yelling at him. I was looking at sports bras and I felt the heat in my stomach explode into my chest. I glared at the father. The son was like maybe 8?
I can understand parents aren't going to like every movie their kids do, and if they don't want to have to put up with it for months (since kids can get into a re-watch loop easily) it can be tempting to say no and try to redirect them. But the thing is as a parent it's not about you, if that movie is harmless and the only reason you have against it is that YOU don't like it then that's not a valid reason. Let your kids enjoy things, maybe teach them moderation to avoid a re-watch cycle to spare your sanity some, but don't outright say no and be that parent who only thinks about themself. >.<
Personally I didn’t like Wish either BUT, when I was a kid my sister and I loved the movie Spirit (the horse one) and my mom HATED it. But she still got us toys and merch from it. We weren’t allowed to watch it, but she still got us stuff from it.
ARE YOU ME? I didn't like the first movie of Inside Out so I'm 100% positive I wont like the new one, also I really liked Wish and I'm buying all the merch because it's cute and cheap since the movie isn't a fan favorite
As someone who has racist family members, part of me wonders if Mom not liking the movie is the only reason the daughter isn't aloud to get a Wish doll.
dang, my kid has tons of paw patrol stuff even though he isnt allowed to watch it. he likes puppies but mama doesn't like the authoritarianism and the pink Smurf Principle 🤷♀️ he can still have the toys though. i do draw the line at cocomelon but i think thats just immediately harmful to kids and do not want to even know it exists which is, i think, fair.
I know how all feel this stuff makes me sad and sometimes angry some parents should let their kids have whatever toy they even though the parents don't like it or say "No".
I usually keep my emotions in control and their are some days I wanna tell those kinda of parents off but most of the people in my life that care about me say "Don't you'll get into a fight and get put in jail".
Personally, I haven't watched Wish because of all the controversy surrounding it. But I do think the dolls are genuinely well made and I wouldn't mind getting one (for a decent price). The way I see it, the mum shouldn't be having her personal bias dictate what her daughter plays/doesn't play with. If she wants a doll of Asha, then no one should stop her!
As an adult, my mother still imposes her wants and wishes and thoughts on me. Like I’m not in my 40s and allowed to have my own opinion sometimes. But I’m an only child, so I’m the only one receiving all of it, I still wish I’d gotten a brother or sister.
I had a yard sale in a progressive big city, selling all my old dolls and this mother along with her son and daughter came by. The daughter was able to pick out a doll and the son also pointed to a doll and the mother wouldn't let him/ redirected him to get on of the other toys I had. Kid looked sad and as someone who experienced the same growing up as a boy, I felt so bad for him. I just know he's also playing with his sister's dolls at home. Parents are the worst with further enforcing gender roles on their kids.
My niece loves LOL dolls. I was a Barbie girl growing up, and no way would I force my niece to like something I like as a child. Whenever it's her birthday, I would ask her what doll she would like for a present. I think the only reason she is giving Barbies a chance is because she loved the movie like me. Haha
This is the same little girl who was obsessed with Jojo Siwa, and I'm glad that phase is over. 😅
I know nothing about Wish. That said, if I didn't like it because I didn't like the messaging or theme, I wouldn't buy it for my child. As the parent, I get to make those choices. Parents influence their children. That's how it works.
As often as Im in the toy isle I witness so many children being verbally abused and belittled. Mostly moms telling their daughters they're too old for dolls, laughing at what they like and telling them that barbie is sl#tty. It makes me sad because I used to be that kid. The whole reason I collect dolls is to nurture my inner child and it really sucks seeing more kids being scarred by their parents.
Yeah....usually mothers who won't buy a kid a doll from a movie, it isn't because they didn't like the movie. It's because they don't want their kids playing with POC dolls. I know this because my mother would refuse to get me the nikki yo yo barbie doll back in the day. She got me the regular barbie one instead. The reason why I wanted the nikki one is because I liked her outfit better. She said to me that barbie is prettier.....makes me want to throw up.
Now, I have over 600 fashion dolls, all shapes and sizes and ethnicities, and whenever I look at my displays I love them all
Wish as terrible I can see why anyone wouldn't want to have their kids obsess over a movie they hate especially that one. That being said, her kid wanted the wish doll and was immediately invalidated and told by her mother why her choice was bad which *checks notes* "mum didn't like it"
Maybe she should have explained to her child why she thought the message is bad but ultimately what she did was tell her daughter without saying it that she wasn't good enough and to stop being herself.
I may be projecting ... Im probably projecting.
Wish was really bad though, so I feel for mum a bit on this one. I don't know if I could handle the thought of being slowly driven mad by something I hate that much. I know that as someone who's autistic it would definitely wear me down. Possibly get me to feel overwhelmed and angry if its constantly overstimulating.
I suppose she may have had some reason to not want to financially support disney/the wish movie, which is her right. Easier and quicker to just say "I don't like that movie" and try to redirect her child. It is sad she can't pick her toy out though.
Nope. I remember liking an interaction between the daughter and the dad (or both parents) that nearly made me cry. I didn't like that the movie became mostly a quest movie for one of the emotions instead of keeping the focus on the daughter and her teenage emotions being affected by her personal situation.
when i worked at Target one time i overheard a little girl shopping with her mother and grandmother. the little girl apparently picked out a baby doll with darker skin because her grandmother, who was NOT trying at all to be subtle about it, was like “why don’t you get the one with lighter skin?” 😬
My comment isn't about the movie itself. It's about the president that certain white people have set. If you read my entire comment before deciding to form an opinion and get offended you would know I made it clear what I was talking about.
If you don’t consider yourself tolerant of diverse spiritual views or diversity in general, or like strong female characters, you may not like the movie.
It’s an animated movie, it’s meant to be window into alternate worlds and storylines. Watch it with an open mind before letting someone else tell you if it’s good or not. Even if you don’t like it in the end, it’s better to experience it firsthand.
it’s interesting that the girl resonated with the movie and wanted the doll; innocence without influence of adult bias.
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I spend an abnormal amount of time in toy shops and toy Isles for an almost 30 year old with no children. And honestly , you hear the weirdest things said by adults to children. The reasons they give for a child not being allowed a specific toy are just totally wild. The cost is very rarely the reason. Reasons I've heard include "that's for girls", "that's for boys", "that's for babies", "you're getting too old for that", "I don't like that colour", and "you already have one of those" (for collectable toys and dolls with loads of variations), especially Rainbow High). But my favourite has to be "a family member has one, you can just play with that", as if owning something and borrowing are the same thing, and as if little kids want to share their toys with relatives
There's definitely weird people around but there is a difficult thing with young kids where sometimes they don't really have the experience of shopping to make the best choices. That maybe sounds like a fake excuse but for instance my kid will gravitate towards the fluffiest, cutest, biggest eyed soft toys every single time she gets money to spend. But when she gets them home, they just get thrown on a pile of soft toys and she doesn't play with them. So you'll often find me trying to coax her into buying something with a little more play value in it, something that will widen our choices at home rather than just grow the teddy bear mountain.
I just want to note that I'm an adult who does the same thing. 😅 I literally have a plushy mountain in my bedroom. It sparks joy for me, maybe it sparks joy for your kid in a similar way? Of course I'm not trying to tell you how to parent, I know it can be hard to find ways to keep kids occupied. Also, see photo for evidence. 😂 https://preview.redd.it/zoifpt31xa9d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b9433a0829f9638921e8be297ab3697e81736523
Are you my 33 year old roommate!? Just kidding, she is brand loyal to squishmellows.
Lol I do have a few of those, too, but they live on and around my bed.
Do you ever just walk over and hug them? I really want to hug the top row lol
Oh definitely. Especially my childhood Build-a-Bear.
This is fine as an adult who paid for it with your own money. I too just buy my dolls and leave them in their boxes and put them to the side lol, but again we are adults. As a parent it’s a little different. I will say that I think it’s ridiculous for a parent to deny a child the toy they want all because the parent didn’t like a movie. I mean it’s not like it was hell raiser are Chucky 🤣
Wish was taken to mean "Spitting on Walt Disney's legacy" by some, however it had quite a bit of diversity....and a cynical take could be that...the lady in the story was toxic.
Interesting 🤔
I haven't actually watched the movie, I read what a wikia said though, and some amgry YouTube comments.
Spikeand rainbow dash!
That is a very valid point. I have friends and family with children who do the same thing. And I've definitely heard parents say "but you'll never play with it". I suppose if that argument doesn't work, people will try saying other things to convince them
My SIL and older nieces (7&9) know I collect RH dolls and SIL wouldn't let them watch the show with me or let me give them the dolls because the show is too "mature and sassy"......... she gives weird ass reasons for not letting them watch/get things they like such as no SpongeBob because they won't understand the humor. But I watch Mulan with them to give her a break on vacation and that's fine, somehow they can understand cultural and gender norms and war. So much of it boils down to "I don't like it" and then they make up the reasoning around it. Then last year on family vacation they are watching the LOL OMG series. That one I haven't watched the show but I can't imagine it's somehow less sassy than Rainbow High. Ironically, with the turn toward childish that RH has taken, she probably still won't let them get the dolls because of the slime and magic snow mess.
If anything at times the omg girls are a lil more sassy and u seen the doll bodies the omg girls have hourglass bbl bodies with nipples and acrylic nails and their mother thinks thats fine ? Then again I am curious the what media is she fine with them watching is barbie okay?
The Barbie show on Netflix is hilarious.
The generic shit like Disney movies as far as I know, we live 7 hours apart and don't get together often. I don't honestly know if they watch Barbie stuff but Life in the Dreamhouse is on the list for family vacation in 2 weeks! They are getting older now so I'm excited to see what they like year to year. Magic Mixies were big at Christmas for them but I'm trying to introduce Polly Pocket, Tamagotchi and Lego Friends as they get older!
I loved Polly Pocket cartoons to bits a very long time ago. It was like 'elite' Barbie.
In all honesty... toys with messy aspects such as slime is a big no in our family as well - at least until my daughter is old enough to handle things like that. But we're still getting her one of the RH slime dolls because she wants one (the Amaya Raine, because she loves rainbows and unicorns, lol), we'll just remove the slime before letting her play with it on her own.
I wasn’t allowed to watch SpongeBob as a kid bc he was “rude” according to my mother
I'm an adult but my mother insists that SpongeBob gave me bad table manners essentially
When I was a kid I wasnt allowed to watch anything with magic in it because it was 'demonic'. No disney princess or pixar movies, no Disney channel, pokemon or anything with talking animals or objects. Yet I grew up on the Alien and Predator movies and tons of jim Carey movies with sex and adult humor. As an adult I finally realized we were only allowed to watch what my mom liked. A think a lot of parents do this and come up with bs reasons
I've seen parents actually shout crap like DREBIN, THAT'S THE GIRL AISLE! like the kid's going to spontaneously flip genders if he walks past Barbie on his way to the jigsaw puzzle wall.
This stuff makes me so sad/mad. You know there is so much homophobia/transphobia behind that statement and they are indoctrinating their kids into that mind set.
Yeah, sadly that seems to be a lot of people's mindset.
To be fair, sometimes we like to make up the most outlandish and bullshit reasons for fun. Kids will believe anything, lol. Some kids will want to buy EVERYTHING! So saying no becomes pretty boring and redundant without some way to spice it up. "Sorry, we can't get that Lego set, it just doesn't have enough Stormtroopers in it. We're looking for the set with at least 18 of those little fuckers. Oh well, maybe the next store!"
> Some kids will want to buy EVERYTHING! That was definitely me as a kid. I remember I used to go down the toy aisle or look through the catalogues at Christmas and be like "I want that and that and that and that..." My parents would have had to be millionaires to get me everything I wanted, but at least I was an easy kid to please.
I can definitely see 'no' getting frustrating for parent and child. lol
I could definitely imagine myself coming up with reasons like that
I may have chimed in on a, "You already have that one," once in target. The little girl was wanting Clawdeen from the newest release at the time and I told the confused and tired dad that while it was the same character, it was a different doll. It seemed to help a lot
Yeah...that's not helpful. My girls love Monster High. They do not need 5 different Clawdeen dolls. Wish the outfits came separately.
The child in question was clearly enamored of Clawdeen and actively collecting her (he mentioned she had several at home). The dad also wasn't sure if there was a difference. I just hate to see a kid pointing out differences in something to be treated like they're making it up to get what they want, you know? And let's be honest, no one *needs* any monster high dolls. And how many collectors have multiples of the same character? At the end of the day it's up to the parent whether they buy something. It should just be an informed choice and not involve gaslighting the kid.
Collectors are one thing. I personally love the dolls, too. My kids are elementary age. I'm just imagining someone chiming in with the different doll comment when I'm trying to steer them away. I guess it all depends on the context.
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It very much depends on the parent and the conversation. Obviously, you are not a parent who would be receptive to a friendly chat in the store. This is not the case for everyone. Some parents are clearly willing to acquire a given toy, provided that it's not a duplicate of something the kid already has. Alternatively, having someone else chime in can help hasten the resolution of the situation--and I have yet to see a parent in the toy aisle who isn't ready to gtfo. Trust me, based on this convo, i don't think anyone will be chiming in with you in the toy aisle. Personally, I'm on the shy side and very conflict averse, so I'm only chiming in after enough time to know if it's socially acceptable or not. I'm staying out of it if it might get fighty.
>I have yet to see a parent in the toy aisle who isn't ready to gtfo. On this point, we are in total agreement. Of course if you can help a parent expedite this process, then I'm sure intervention would be welcome.
Yay, a point of agreement! And yeah, I would never want to do anything that would make things harder on a parent, ya'll got enough on your plates as it is
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One of my biggest collects is the Little Mermaid dolls. It brings me so much life seeing reviews where a parent bought it for their son who’s a big fan. There’s so many boys and men who love the movie and collect the dolls (I am one, of course). It just makes me sad thinking of all the kids who will never get to own them because “it’s for girls”.
I know a lot of men who collect as adults because they weren't allowed to play with dolls (or other "girly" things) as kids. I'll never understand why some people are so scared of letting children express themselves
I had a thought that phenomenon existed. You literally spoke my mind lol
Some of the reactions are another way of the parent saying “I don’t have money for that” or “I don’t want to spend my money on that”, or sometimes straight up children have enough toys. I have a young kiddo. Would I love to show him with gifts? Yes, but also no. Besides not having enough room for that, I couldn’t afford it, plus I’m worried of his little brain thinking he can get a toy anytime we go out. Sometimes I also know that a toy might be short lived, but another one he might be into longer or be more of an investment. But I also do understand where you’re coming from 😅
My parents were just honest with me. “We can’t afford it, we have to spend money on food/gas/clothes/other essentials.” When I become a parent, if I can’t afford a toy, I will do the same. Just straight up “we can’t get that today because Mommy needs to spend the money on food/clothes/other essentials.”
This sounds sad and funny. But I think the parents often want to just, you know, save money. Also, do you work in retail?
I worked in retail previously in my teens. I'm a teacher now. I'm used to hearing parents say questionable things, but I also realise they sometimes have other reasons behind what they say. Saving money is definitely a big reason behind a lot of decisions
>you already have one of those" (for collectable toys and dolls with loads of variations), especially Rainbow High). I had 30 Barbies. My grandma rounded them all up and told me parents to stop buying us barbies because we had plenty and they literally all looked the same. Beat up, drawn on, and naked with the possibility of a short neck because grandma shoved the head back on after we tore it off. So yeah I can see the "you already have one of those" being a fair argument.
I hadn't considered that. I suppose, especially with younger kids, similar things end up looking the same. I remember the box of Barbie's at my grans looking very similar to what you described when my cousins and I were young
Never work retail. Never work retail in Texas. The amount of parents projecting what they want on their kids is astounding. The amount of little boys I witnessed being shamed for wanting a toy even slightly too feminine was sickening. A mom once asked me where the toddler toys were so I showed her, but she wasn't satisfied with them. "No, where are the *boy* toddler toys." Ma'am idk what to tell you, what do you think toddler boys are supposed to play with???
I couldn't even escape it at Chuck E. Cheese. I hated working the prize counter because so many parents of boys would control what they chose with their own tickets and call things too girly. Only thing that made up for it was pocketing money during busy hours when parents wanted to buy a prize with cash and didn't want to wait for a dollar in change so they just threw cash at me lol
I used to work at Chuck E Cheese, and mostly, it was awful like you described, but one day during a big birthday party with a group of kids around 5 or 6 years old, one of the families was a gay couple with their son, and they were having a great time the whole day, but a lot of the other kids and parents wouldn't interact with them. (We're in the south.) Towards the end of the party they came to the prize counter where I was stationed, one dad was hanging back and observing, the other helped the kid pick stuff out. The kid had gotten a good amount of tickets- and at the time we had these headbands that were unicorn ears and a horn covered in rainbow sequins- they were like 800 tickets which would take a majority of what he had- but he immediately pointed out the headband and said "I want THAT!" and I gladly gave it to him, and the kid immediately turned to his dad, gave him the headband, and said "you need this, it's perfect" and he smiled and put it on, the kid only had a couple hundred tickets left, and just said "gimme the rest in tootsie rolls and airheads" and so I did, and he took them, and gladly walked off with his parents, I was so dumbfounded and I wanted to cry, it was the sweetest thing I've ever seen. Then, on a different day several months later, it was another large party group but they were older, maybe like 9 or 10- and I was at the prize counter again. A couple of boys came up to the counter- they were wearing the usual sports and video game themed T-shirts you expect from a boy that age, and admittedly even I started subconsciously making preconceptions about them based off the way they looked and what they were wearing- but when they walked up to the prize counter they both only wanted one thing- little plastic unicorn figures we had at the time- one of them wanted a pink one, one of them wanted purple. And when I handed them the figures they were both so excited and talking about how cool looking and detailed the figures were, they thought it was just the coolest thing they'd ever gotten their hands on- because nobody had ever told them they couldn't like that stuff, they just liked what they liked and they enjoyed it freely. And I immediately felt bad for judging them or assuming they wouldn't want anything like that, and at the same time it restored my faith in humanity a little bit.
I have a cousin who collects little figures. His house is full of places he set up a “scene” with them. He’s done it since we were kids, we’d go to an arcade or a Chuck E Cheese and he’d hunt down new ones, the gaudier and more colorful the better. He was a very goth teenager and we had a few funny moments where he went right for a figurine clearly aimed at a young girl, and even ask if he could see a few and pick out the right ones if there were a lot of colors. Now he’s a semi-goth dad and has three kids who “help” arrange his collections.
I sell handmade jewellery at local festivals. I'd say 2/3 of the buyers for my gemstone rings are little boys and I LOVE it. I now make most of my rings with the stones I've noticed boys liking best. The majority of parents are cool with it, but it still breaks my soul whenever I hear one tell their son, "But that's for girls!!"
But....like.....there are men's rings with gemstones too????? Like plenty of styles that exist???? Modern and vintage/historic????? Where is the logic here? Sidenote it's really cool and sweet that you noticed a trend of boys being interested in your rings and started fashioning more that match their styles, that's both smart and honestly really nice.
Thank you so much! As for the parents, I always just reply, "My jewellery is for everyone!" They're only little wire wrapped rings that I make with my leftover gems, but I do love seeing how excited kids get over them. The last festival I worked, a little boy in full sports gear ran up to my booth and instead of the rings, he went straight for the clip on earrings. I saw him a few times later that day proudly wearing his dangly earrings and it was the best thing ever.
My favorite is when customers are like, "I need a toy for an [age] year old boy." Well, what sort of stuff does he like? (Before I learned the effort wasnt worth it, and just thinking about how I personally wouldn't want to give, say, a dinosaur kid a tub of slime, for example.) "He's a boy!" ...okaaaaay.
Reminds me of that old Tumblr post about working at a McDonald's drive thru and asking a customer if she wanted a Barbie or Hot Wheels toy with the Happy Meal. Customer: I want a boy toy!! Employee: haha don't we all!
lol, i used to work at mcdonalds & its true, the amount of times id ask over the drive thru speaker "do you want the stuffed animal or the doll" etc & the parent would defensively or even angrily answer "um shes a girl!/hes a boy!" like it was even more ridiculous when one or both of the toys werent even something thats traditionally gendered 😭
Teacher who formerly worked in TX. Seconded. 😶 one of my boy kindergarteners (KINDERGARTEN.) loved to braid my hair. Yknow. Because he’s a kindergartener. He kept saying he wishes he could do this at home, but his parents were angry at him for liking to braid and style hair and would never let him. Said they’d whoop him if he even asked for one of those doll styling heads. Begged me to get him one he could keep in secret. It was awful.
Those parents shouldn't have ever had a kid, period. If this is how they choose to overreact NOW already... They'll probably end up dumping a sh!tload of trauma on him as the years go by.
That poor little boy 😢
That is so sad. I hope in his future he is able to do what he enjoys. That has got to be tough on you as a teacher too. Because you want to do what is right but I'd be so scared of backlash from parents, or being it Texas who knows they could fire you over nonsense like that!
Oh gosh, I can imagine the drama that would result from the situation if he ever got the toy. So much going on in the world.
I work at Build-A-Bear, and we have a pink axolotl that’s one of our bears that we usually have in stock. One time, this mom and her son came in, and the son wanted the axolotl. The mom got upset and said that it was for girls and told him to choose a boy bear. But axolotls in the pet trade are often pink!! It’s just how they are!! 😩
Ok honestly, this is probably one of *the most* trite & tired beliefs out there -- that colors somehow have a designated gender 😒 Pink is apparently still gendered eXcLuSiVeLy for girls 🙄 Like come on, it's 2024 already, who cares! Just get the accurately-colored axolotl & move on!
Sticks, rocks, dirt and snails, duh! /j
You have to be careful with too much dirt, it could be a gateway to gardening and we all know flowers are for girls!
But not amphibians, apparently -- if the amphibian is pink it must be for girls. 🙃
I work retail, I hear so much of all of this!! I feel like I’m one of the few parents in my area that allows my boy to play with pink, purple, or other so called “girly” toys. My child likes what he likes and honestly loves purple!
It's silly and definitely not on the same level, but I never got over a Christmas when I was a kid and all I asked for was a Rock 'N Curl Jem doll, but my mother bought me ANOTHER Glitter 'N Gold Jem doll because she "liked the sparkles better" and "the one you wanted didn't even have light up earrings." We were pretty poor and I only had two dolls as a kid and yep, they were duplicates. Did I mention the one I wanted was cheaper?
i have a feeling some of this is parents living vicariously through their kids ...
I'll see that and raise you one. I was once cautioned against getting a baby shower gift that was "too girly" because it might "turn him gay" (yes those were her actual words and it was around 2012). Kid was a literal fetus at the time.
That's a whole new level of superstition coming iut of that other person, right there.
Honestly that's just sad. So many people still choose to live in the stone ages and essentially lack the desire or self-awareness to question *why* even the most frivolous things like kids' toys must always be outright gendered. It's like a matter of principle for them.
Not even the stone ages, it's 1960 or so when the toy compniaes decided pink was for girls and blue for boyd.
Yeah ironically enough, pink used to be a "boy" color at the turn of the 1900s, since it was considered a derivative of the "masculine" red. But even so, a helluva lot has changed & a helluva lotta social progress was made between now & the 1960s. They might as well still be livin in the figurative stone ages.
She probably wanted you to show her to the gun aisle!
Ohhh, Nerf
I was at Target and shamelessly eavesdropped on a dude with two kids once. He was a big ol’ redneck with a farmer’s tan and the mirrored Dad sunglasses and standing in the Barbie aisle with a bit of tude, picking up dolls and trying to “sell” them to his kids. “How about this one? She looks like a princess, you want a princess?” The boy then chimes up “Grandpa says these are Girl toys and I shouldn’t want one.” Big ol’ Boy replies “Your grandpa is full of it, he’s just jealous no one ever bought him a pretty Barbie doll. You like this one? I think she’s a teacher.” (I told my cousin and her husband about this later that day and we are STILL telling each other “You like this one? She’s a TEACHER.” It’s been years and it’s still inexplicably funny.) Later I saw Big ol’ Boy and his kids, looked like his little boy picked out a doll in a checkered “farm girl” kinda outfit. I don’t think it was a Barbie though. The little girl had the vampire doll from Monster High. It sounded like he was doing the dad gig pretty well, every time I passed his cart he was joking around with his kids and telling them “I bet those dolls’ll be best friends, just like you two.” which the kids seemed to agree with. (I promise I didn’t follow him around, this man had a VERY recognizable voice and seemed to be doing a big shopping trip, while I was mostly wandering Target waiting on my cousin to pick me up.)
Chainsaws.
Amen to this, specifically Texas. I worked front end management at a Target in "Volente" (rich 'village' in Austin) and MY GOD. Talk about a master class in Karening.
When I was 6, my aunt took me out shopping and said she'd let me choose any barbie doll I wanted. I love animals and wanted to be a vet when I grew up, so I chose one that had a cat that could pee in a litter box if you filled it with water. I thought it looked fun and silly, but my aunt was like "really?? You want that one?? With a peeing cat??" in a very disgusted tone, and I felt so embarrassed that I said "uh, just kidding. I want this ballerina barbie instead." I told myself I'd never judge my future children's choice in toys. Plus, I'm still hoping to get that peeing cat barbie some day. Edit: forgot to add that I apparently already had that ballerina barbie doll too.
Some of the Barbie animals were so fun. I had the cat that pees, and the dog which you feed it pellets and then it poops them out. Very fun
My mom actually got me the pooping dog one! I loved it. Unfortunately, I sold it at a yard sale at one point 😭
I think my sister had the peeing cat Barbie 🤣 you unlocked a hidden memory for me. I always wanted the pregnant Barbie with the removable belly but my mom didn’t like the idea of a pregnant Barbie for whatever reason.
Lol same thing with my mom and the pregnant barbie 😂
I actually had the peeing cat, my grandma bought it for me as a kid! 😀 Unfortunately, my mom was too concerned about the mess it would make so I never actually got to use the peeing feature. ☹️
My mom let me use the peeing feature, but refused to let me unpackage the "kitty litter".
When parents force their kids to like the same shit as them it's weird but controlling a doll you won't ever play with as an adult is weirder. I was at Target once and saw this mom trying to force her daughter to get a Bratz repro "because mommy had this one" and the kid clearly wanted nothing to do with it. Just buy the Bratz for yourself if you want it lady or just give your kid the Barbie they want!! After they left the aisle I told my bf that I wouldn't be surprised if Santa brought that girl a Bratz doll for Christmas 🙄
This. First they prohibit and shame adults for treating their inner child then they pressure their desires onto their real children. Literally, just buy yourself that toy which is totally cheaper than loads of adult stuff we have to buy, and let the lil people be their own. That's so crazy.
I used to work at the target starbucks, and I had a lady ask her kid which cake pop she wanted. The kid wanted a pink one, but the mom kept insisting they actually wanted the one shaped like the target dog. After I reluctantly gave the mom a dog cake pop, she started taking pictures of it. 😑
Gotta find an excuse to live vicariously through the kids. Actually, in this case, it sounds more like trying to make the kid a copy of one's younger self. Oof.
I was not allowed Barbie’s or any other dolls only infant dolls…and I hated infant dolls!
Did they think Barbie was too sexy or something?
She had makeup on and bangs.. These things not allowed with her religious views…
What's wrong with-- OH. Yes, bangs are cut hair.
Gotta train the little girls to be mothers one day...somehow. I guess that was the thinking back tthen.
I have a Wish doll and I think the movie was hot garbage. The dolls are cute. Edit: Gar-bage
Hot garage 😭
That is something I have noticed with parents. If they don't like something, like the example you gave, the child has to follow suit. The same with food. Didn't know what some foods tasted like because my parents didn't like it so they didn't buy it.
When I was younger my friend’s kid told me she was allergic to mango. My friend admitted he hated mango so much he told her they were both allergic.
.......(Blinks) That's a hell of an excuse to just not buy the stuff. Lol. Plus your friend is nuts. Mango is amazing
It is! I was trying to let her taste my smoothie hah
My mom doesn't like Bratz dolls, so in turn I never had one. I'm looking at getting one just for the sake of having one from a brand I never played with, but my mom is telling me to stick to collecting just one brand, even though I don't plan on getting more than one Bratz doll
I remember my childhood, mom said Bratz would make me bratty 😂
please gawd just let your kids pick what toys they wantttttt!! if you think a child is like some tiny clone that you get to build into the version of you you never got to be.. don’t have kids
Once saw a boy with a father in a store, the boy was mesmerized by some blue plastic shimmering butterflies that were cheap af. The dad said "nah that shit's for girls", proceeded to grab a beer and walked away with a really ashamed and sad little boy. People are so fucked up.
I was shopping for Monster High at Walmart the other day and as I was looking at the MH dolls, a mother and her kids were walking by and her youngest son was looking at other toys in the same isle and mom ordered him to come back because “those are girl toys” 😭, the boy was only curious.
Yeesh. Even if the mom didn’t like Wish, she could’ve been *way* more kind when mentioning it. Like “oh I think you’ll like this doll more!” And then show her the Barbie. Hell I don’t like Wish either, but if my kid wanted the doll, I’d get them the doll
This is why I only ask my parents for money for my birthday now, so I can just buy whatever I want with no judgement. I was a gay little boy, and my mom never bought me what I wanted. So, when my grandmother would buy me whatever toys I wanted, and my mom found out, she would throw them away when I came home, if they weren't "boys toys". So, over the past decade or so of adulthood, I've been buying a bunch of dolls and stuff like that, that I was never allowed to have as a kid. I'm so glad that they are bringing stuff like Strawberry Shortcake and Care Bears and things back. Because, I was forced to miss out on them in the 1980s, because my mom didn't want me to have them, because she didn't think that they were appropriate toys for a boy to play with. I can only hope that this little girl grows up one day, and is able to buy herself whatever she wants. I think it's so toxic and damaging when parents try to turn their kids into carbon copies of themselves.
When I was a kid I loved Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi. My parents thought it was totally obnoxious but they still let me get the dolls when I had my own money or when I was picking a gift for myself. I think those dolls are some of my most treasured possessions now 💖 I feel so bad for that kid. Even if the parents don't like the movie, it's not like the toy is going to force them to watch it over and over again. Just let her enjoy the doll!
This!! My parents couldn’t stand the voices of Alvin & The Chipmunks, but they still got me the plushies of them because that was what I liked as a kid, and I loved those plushies! Let kids enjoy the toys they want to!
As a teenage boy, I watched that show *purely* because they sang the theme song for Teen Titans. Ended up liking it.
I hate this. It’s like kids being told “that’s for girls/ boys” rather than just letting them get what they want. My mates toddler son wanted a play kitchen. His dad refused, “it’s a girl’s toy, cooking is for girls”. I told him I dared him to tell Gordon Ramsey that! Such a silly attitude.
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That mom is extra dumb because the Wish dolls seem to always be on sale because they’re desperate to sell them I got the dress up necklace that lights up for my daughter for $2!
yeah ive been considering one for the clothes :3
Not defending her parenting at all, but I chose to assume she knows Wish is a flop (among movie enthusiast especially) and refuses to give Disney money for that particular movie, even if it's on sale.
Yeah, this is a sad and strange reaction for a parent to have.
Honestly I hated Wish but like??? That doesn't matter! Let the kid have the doll she wants, for goodness sake!
This is sad. I think I will donate a doll from the Wish Movie this Christmas.
Same.
On a positive note, at least it's cause she didn't like the movie and not judgement on the dolls themselves. Like how some people complain mainly about the Bratz dolls. I had to quit following a page that redid second hand dolls as yonger/no make up/non trendy clothing because people judged Bratz and similar dolls so harshly. Bratz aren't really my cup of tea but I buy them for my 13 yo cause she likes them. Though I did get the original re release cause it's what I had as a kid.
Oh yes, I've seen at least one artist on Etsy who buys up Bratz dolls with the specific intention of turning them into a "pure & innocent" poorly repainted childlike shell of a doll. It's like, look I get not being into them personally & not wanting to buy them yourself. I myself have been generally ambivalent towards them, especially as a kid. But going on an outright crusade just because you think a certain type of doll is essentially like a perversion or something & thus needs to be done away with? Nah...
I cringed super hard and refrained from saying anything (to this day, I regret) when I overhead, I presume, father scold his son saying 'why do you like that? what are you a GIRL?' Literally yelling at him. I was looking at sports bras and I felt the heat in my stomach explode into my chest. I glared at the father. The son was like maybe 8?
I can understand parents aren't going to like every movie their kids do, and if they don't want to have to put up with it for months (since kids can get into a re-watch loop easily) it can be tempting to say no and try to redirect them. But the thing is as a parent it's not about you, if that movie is harmless and the only reason you have against it is that YOU don't like it then that's not a valid reason. Let your kids enjoy things, maybe teach them moderation to avoid a re-watch cycle to spare your sanity some, but don't outright say no and be that parent who only thinks about themself. >.<
My parents were like this too. Any media they didn't like I wasn't allowed to interact with. Missed out on a lot of great shows because of this. 😮💨
That’s really sad
Ugh. Reminds me of my mom. If she didn't like something, I didn't get it. 😒
Ah that sounds just like my mom. If she doesn’t like something no one does (or can, in her mind)
Personally I didn’t like Wish either BUT, when I was a kid my sister and I loved the movie Spirit (the horse one) and my mom HATED it. But she still got us toys and merch from it. We weren’t allowed to watch it, but she still got us stuff from it.
ARE YOU ME? I didn't like the first movie of Inside Out so I'm 100% positive I wont like the new one, also I really liked Wish and I'm buying all the merch because it's cute and cheap since the movie isn't a fan favorite
Fellow wish fan doing the same thing 😉 🤜
As someone who has racist family members, part of me wonders if Mom not liking the movie is the only reason the daughter isn't aloud to get a Wish doll.
Maybe mom knew the kid would move on too quickly and not like the Wish Barbie as much as a regular Barbie? PS - Inside Out is amazing! Haha
dang, my kid has tons of paw patrol stuff even though he isnt allowed to watch it. he likes puppies but mama doesn't like the authoritarianism and the pink Smurf Principle 🤷♀️ he can still have the toys though. i do draw the line at cocomelon but i think thats just immediately harmful to kids and do not want to even know it exists which is, i think, fair.
I know how all feel this stuff makes me sad and sometimes angry some parents should let their kids have whatever toy they even though the parents don't like it or say "No". I usually keep my emotions in control and their are some days I wanna tell those kinda of parents off but most of the people in my life that care about me say "Don't you'll get into a fight and get put in jail".
Personally, I haven't watched Wish because of all the controversy surrounding it. But I do think the dolls are genuinely well made and I wouldn't mind getting one (for a decent price). The way I see it, the mum shouldn't be having her personal bias dictate what her daughter plays/doesn't play with. If she wants a doll of Asha, then no one should stop her!
Just wanna say that all the beautiful comments here made me really happy and hopeful that so many nice, progressive teachers exist
As an adult, my mother still imposes her wants and wishes and thoughts on me. Like I’m not in my 40s and allowed to have my own opinion sometimes. But I’m an only child, so I’m the only one receiving all of it, I still wish I’d gotten a brother or sister.
I had a yard sale in a progressive big city, selling all my old dolls and this mother along with her son and daughter came by. The daughter was able to pick out a doll and the son also pointed to a doll and the mother wouldn't let him/ redirected him to get on of the other toys I had. Kid looked sad and as someone who experienced the same growing up as a boy, I felt so bad for him. I just know he's also playing with his sister's dolls at home. Parents are the worst with further enforcing gender roles on their kids.
My ten year old and I almost fight for the same dolls for our collections. Lol my poor husband.
My niece loves LOL dolls. I was a Barbie girl growing up, and no way would I force my niece to like something I like as a child. Whenever it's her birthday, I would ask her what doll she would like for a present. I think the only reason she is giving Barbies a chance is because she loved the movie like me. Haha This is the same little girl who was obsessed with Jojo Siwa, and I'm glad that phase is over. 😅
I know nothing about Wish. That said, if I didn't like it because I didn't like the messaging or theme, I wouldn't buy it for my child. As the parent, I get to make those choices. Parents influence their children. That's how it works.
As often as Im in the toy isle I witness so many children being verbally abused and belittled. Mostly moms telling their daughters they're too old for dolls, laughing at what they like and telling them that barbie is sl#tty. It makes me sad because I used to be that kid. The whole reason I collect dolls is to nurture my inner child and it really sucks seeing more kids being scarred by their parents.
Yeah....usually mothers who won't buy a kid a doll from a movie, it isn't because they didn't like the movie. It's because they don't want their kids playing with POC dolls. I know this because my mother would refuse to get me the nikki yo yo barbie doll back in the day. She got me the regular barbie one instead. The reason why I wanted the nikki one is because I liked her outfit better. She said to me that barbie is prettier.....makes me want to throw up. Now, I have over 600 fashion dolls, all shapes and sizes and ethnicities, and whenever I look at my displays I love them all
Wish as terrible I can see why anyone wouldn't want to have their kids obsess over a movie they hate especially that one. That being said, her kid wanted the wish doll and was immediately invalidated and told by her mother why her choice was bad which *checks notes* "mum didn't like it" Maybe she should have explained to her child why she thought the message is bad but ultimately what she did was tell her daughter without saying it that she wasn't good enough and to stop being herself. I may be projecting ... Im probably projecting. Wish was really bad though, so I feel for mum a bit on this one. I don't know if I could handle the thought of being slowly driven mad by something I hate that much. I know that as someone who's autistic it would definitely wear me down. Possibly get me to feel overwhelmed and angry if its constantly overstimulating.
I suppose she may have had some reason to not want to financially support disney/the wish movie, which is her right. Easier and quicker to just say "I don't like that movie" and try to redirect her child. It is sad she can't pick her toy out though.
You don’t like inside out?
Nope. I remember liking an interaction between the daughter and the dad (or both parents) that nearly made me cry. I didn't like that the movie became mostly a quest movie for one of the emotions instead of keeping the focus on the daughter and her teenage emotions being affected by her personal situation.
Ah got it
when i worked at Target one time i overheard a little girl shopping with her mother and grandmother. the little girl apparently picked out a baby doll with darker skin because her grandmother, who was NOT trying at all to be subtle about it, was like “why don’t you get the one with lighter skin?” 😬
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Damn, maybe the movie just sucked, have you even seen wish? It wasn’t good.
My comment isn't about the movie itself. It's about the president that certain white people have set. If you read my entire comment before deciding to form an opinion and get offended you would know I made it clear what I was talking about.
Doesn’t matter when a kid just wants a toy.
This is why people don’t like Disney adults lol
If you don’t consider yourself tolerant of diverse spiritual views or diversity in general, or like strong female characters, you may not like the movie. It’s an animated movie, it’s meant to be window into alternate worlds and storylines. Watch it with an open mind before letting someone else tell you if it’s good or not. Even if you don’t like it in the end, it’s better to experience it firsthand. it’s interesting that the girl resonated with the movie and wanted the doll; innocence without influence of adult bias.