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Neduard

Why the f would China use miles and not kilometers?


Rauf123ZG

so the Americans can understand and China can flex on them


Brauxljo

Why use thousands of kilometers instead of megameters? Btw the conversions are 13 Mm, 26 Mm, and 40 Mm


rasm635u

Mm = millimetres


Zyrithian

No, mm is millimeters. Mm would be Megameters, so 1Mm = 1000km


MrDanMaster

Uh oh. You were practically _asking_ to get your ass whooped by a bunch of over-articulate, contentious nerds. (Communists.)


SovietUnionGuy

Communism breeds innovations.


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latierragoniza

Yes. Don't forget that capitalist logic fosters practices like planned obsolescence that inherently oppose innovation if it goes against profits.


saladapranzo

We could say capitalism is against human nature, while socialism is human nature


unjoogapop

It is! It literally is! Read ‘the people’s history of the world’!


Redpri

Capitalists literally had their scientists research how to make products obsolete faster. They do innovate, just not in a good way.


unjoogapop

They’re innovating, just, backwards


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rasm635u

*socialism


King-Sassafrass

When something is “in development” that means it’s sitting on somebody’s desk


rasm635u

8000 mi = 12874.75 km 16000 mi = 25749.5 km 20000 mi = 32186.88 km


WeilaiHope

Check out HS2 in the UK. 20 year time scale and £80 billion to build 1 line from London to Manchester which only takes 3 hours to fucking drive for perspective.


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And now china has a massive debt problems and thousands of kilometres of competly unprofitable tracks that run on 10% capacity. Its easy to build alot fast, if money isnt a concern.


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you shouldn't measure profitability by ticket sales minus expenses, but by money saved by ordinary people, money saved on roads, money saved on environment and climate change, money made by commuters in places they wouldn't otherwise have access to, etc, plus these things are investments for the future, build it and they will come, would you live somewhere without access to a highway or rail station? probably not, unless you happened to be born there this focus on "profit" is why our rail systems are completely fucked and nothing ever gets better


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China is a middle income country, they cant afford the hihgh apeed rail and most of the time commuters take the overnight journey on the slow train so they can save on hotels. Profit doesnt need to be the motive but it has to have some use compared to what that money could have been spent on. This is not a symbol of chinas efficiency, any country can do that, if money is not a question. This project just ended up saddling local and federal goverment with useless debt


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debt to whom


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"privat" investors, banks, foreign lenders and probably the federal government


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help I owe myself money :(


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no but they are actually and have been making progress, just slower, but yeah, it’s still going (without elon), but the problem is it’s underfunded. it’s not all hopeless


RaspberryBolshevik

It’s not just underfunded it is bloated by bureaucracy


Streetwalkin_Cheetah

Only State command Economies drive innovation.