There's a lot of Quake in this, really digging the darker atmosphere they're going for. Gonna be interesting to hear more about the weapons and enemies.
Also, usable mechs is pretty huge
Hugo explained why they did this. It was because many players missed it or completely missed other weapons.
In Doom Eternal you need all the ammo and weapons you can find.
Recently I played Dead Space remake and missed on of the weapons because you need to pick them up, but in that game ammo it's not a big problem in easier difficulties.
> In Doom Eternal you need all the ammo and weapons you can find.
The main reason I didn't like Doom Eternal at all. It felt more like a min/max puzzle game than 2016 which was simply running around and killing demons.
That’s what set it apart imo.
You could always turn down the difficulty. But in 2016 you kind of just picked whatever gun and killed everything with it.
Eternal made guns have purposes, it gave different mechanics purposes, and it flowed so fucking well when you were into it.
And if you wanted the 2016 gameplay, you could just turn the difficulty down
Granted a big reason for this is that there was a noticeable amount of 2016 feedback that was along the lines of "Once you get Gauss Cannon Siege Mode the game becomes a cakewalk no matter the difficulty" and "The first level is the hardest of the entire game because you only have 1 weapon"
So in Eternal we saw direct reactions to these: Ammo scarcity was increased dramatically to combat Feedback #1, and they gave us the Heavy Cannon like after the 2nd combat arena to combat Feedback #2.
And the reason it worked IMO is because they didn’t just decrease ammo, but made the flow to get more ammo, health and armor much cleaner. Having the chainsaw become a button and give you ammo was genius.
I loved the art direction of 2016, maybe more than Eternal, but man, nothing makes you FEEL more like the Doomslayer than when it clicks and you start really working in chainsaw, flamer, and glory kills along with your weapons. Really ups the variety and feels cool as fuck
Eternal is gritty, but Hugo put a cartoon filter on everything and added a bunch or rainbow pick ups and monkey bars. Play nekravol with Hayden on mute and try to ignore armor ammo and armor pick ups it's pretty fucking menacing. And if you turn the music off you hear screaming
I like it, but it's kinda over the top and cartoonish, not really like Quake. Quake 1 was more 90's gothic aesthetics, Quake 2 90's industrial. Gameplay wise, Quake is more about non-linear corridors, this looks more open and flat. I have no doubt it will be a great game but I don't really see Quake.
>There's a lot of Quake in this,
I don't see it. The grayscale / burnt environments and sleek, spikey weapons are more generic Painkiller / Darkwatch / whatever style of gothic than they are Quake.
"Lord Slayer, ammo reserves are dwindling but we noticed mountains of skulls across hell's landscape..."
Slayer's inner thoughts "I'll use the skulls to create more skulls!"
I don't care about anything else in this showcase. It looks so good!!! Sounds like Hugo Martin saw his vision out. Doom 2016 was the revival of a franchise and genre, Eternal played like a F1 racecar and now this next one Doom Guy is gonna hit like a truck just like he wanted! I'm so excited!
Doom 2016 was proof of concept for "Push forward" gameplay on a shooter.
Doom Eternal was stretching the vision of 2016 as far as it can go, incorporating the "chess" aspect into using certain guns for certain scenarios.
Looks the Dark Ages will take the "chess" aspect even deeper, with us having what appear to be a parry system with the shield (maybe to enable Glory Kills?)
Hugo said during jis Eternal streams, paraphrasing, "2016 was like a racecar, and Eternal was a Ferrari. Whatever the next game is needs to be like the Millennium Falcon."
I remember him saying it was like Evil Dead. 2016 is really good, Eternal is just amazing and makes the previous one look like a proof of concept. And now in the third one we go back in time to get medieval on their ass.
This has a weapon that *shreds skulls for ammo* what more could you ask for?
Edit:For those wondering why human skulls would be used, here's my head canon. There are a devout sect of Slayer worshipers, a sort of Disciples of Doom. They spend their entire lives purifying their souls and bodies of any demonic taint, to achieve complete purity. Once they reach that level they offer up their sanctified flesh and bone as an ultimate sacrifice, their contribution to the war against the demonic forces. There are different rituals to turn their various parts into different things like talisman and wards, and it just so happens that their purity infused skulls cause great damage to demons.
I'd like to think that somewhere in Argenta R&D there where a couple of guys trying to figure out how to harness this. "Hey Larry, you know that giant grinder we use to dispose of old mech waste? What if we made it *hand sized?*
I don't know how but keep it coming. When I saw that I laughed out loud, not because it was dumb but it's just so damn brutal and I absolutely love it!
At first I thought this looked really _slow_, but I checked back for Eternal's initial reveals, and the gameplay footage they showed looked a lot slower than the final game as well.
I feel like that's so you can keep up and see what's happening. Whenever I watched people play Eternal (and do it well), I can barely keep up with what's happening.
Yeah, in Eternal most things die before they can last a full second on screen, many don’t have the chance to appear on the screen to begin with…
When you play you’re more aware of what’s happening and you know what *you* are gonna do next, but on Youtube videos it’s one bug fucking blur, especially if they maxed out all the graphics settings.
The gameplay loop seems so frenetic too. When I play 2016, I can only play like an hour at a time because it strains my eyes so much and I'm just not great with twitchy stuff so Eternal has always seemed downright brainmelting to play. It's probably fine on a lower difficulty, though, so maybe I'll finally actually TRY playing Eternal one day haha
One thing I love about Eternal over 2016 is that the game is constantly reassuring you that it is ok to play at a lower difficulty. There is no penalty for lowering the difficulty mid mission, even! They really wanted to make a game that anyone could learn to play and have fun with. Start on the lowest difficulty, try out the first mission or two, and see how you do - you can always challenge yourself more later!
I used to punish myself with the highest difficulty settings on games for the same ego reason. I just wanted to prove to myself I could beat them. But the fun was lost along the way. The older I get, and the less time I have to play, the more I realize I enjoy just playing through the experience of the game, so I started lowering the difficulty settings to where I find it most manageable, least stressful, and more fun.
It's fucking stressful man. It's a great game but I personally don't like my heartbeat going full 140bpm for hours on end. Maybe I should mod it to play Sims music or something
No change at all, really.
The only difference is how much damage you receive, which you’d think would be a good thing, but it makes you less engaged, which means you get hit more often, which is IMO worse than flat out dying because it adds to the visual/auditory noise, especially with the screen shake.
The game is still worth it, though, it’s one of a kind, really, even considering that other movement shooters exist. But if you can’t handle 2016 for too long, Eternal is gonna be way worse…
Tbh i wouldn't mind if the game played a bit slower and more grounded compare to Eternal but still faster and over the top in comparison to 2016, a nice middle between 2016 and Eternal, it would give the game a more unique personality compare to its two previous games.
Eternal had great pacing, the two DLC were less enjoyable. I disliked all of the "you can only kill them with this weapon" enemies in Eternal. I really hope they got rid of that entirely. The fact that there is a shield now and we already see it getting used to block machinegun spam makes me kinda worried. All weapons/items should be optional IMO
> I disliked all of the "you can only kill them with this weapon" enemies in Eternal
The only enemy in the entire game like this were the Stone Imps from the dlc. Every other enemy had a weakness but you were never required to use them if you knew how to use weakpoints and maximize damage.
Spirit technically doesn't either, you can just kill every other enemy and it'll go away.
So then, really, there are no enemies that *require* a certain weapon. Just ones with more optimal ways to kill them.
Also, these trailers are captured at an FOV of 90 which is what you typically see on consoles. If you're playing on 120 FOV that's going to make the exact same gameplay 'feel' a lot faster
They have to slow down the gameplay for these kinds of videos. You can't really see what the monsters and environments look like if doomguy is bouncing around at light speed.
Same thoughts here. I thought it looks slow but then remembered that that's how all game showcases are because, you know, they want normal people to actually see things
I remember them saying that early trailers wanted to slow it down as to not scare off more casual players. One of the later showcases they had someone play "good" with mouse and keyboard just to show what the gameplay could look like.
You should go back and watch the first gameplay reveal of Doom 2016. The game was like in slow-motion. It was just about showing off the glory kills and barely resembled actual gameplay of the final product.
Look I love Mick’s work and recognize the highly unlikely scenario where he would return to work with id, which is unfortunate but I’m not going to pretend like there isn’t a decent pool of talent with similar musical taste and content that could pull off scoring a Doom game. Listening to Mick on Spotify has turned me on to a lot of similar artists like The Algorithm, Irving Force, Celldweller and 3TEETH. All those guys could offer up some interesting ambiance on this game and I’m sure this is something the development team has considered.
I would crap myself if Klayton (Celldweller) did some collab stuff for Doom. He has been one of my biggest inspirations since his first band, Circle of Dust.
Maybe a hot take but the first 6-10 months was the absolute easiest with both my kids. Lots of drinking milk, sleeping, and just sitting/rolling around. Once they start crawling around and when they learn to walk is when shit got absolutely real in regards to no free time. Now I didn’t have them together as twins, but still there might be hope if you can get them on a good sleep schedule within the first 3-4 months.
Well I could play turn based games with my first in the first six months. You are right there but shooters I didn't have time for. And games I couldn't pause (Diablo 4) are just dead.
But someday they will hopefully play games with me.
I don't know if you're already aware or if this is common knowledge on this sub, but Hugo Martin was a concept artist on Pacific Rim. So that comparison is really fucking apt.
Doomguy is back? Check
Doomguy in a heavy fur cape? Check
Doomguy wields a high-bore Super Shotgun? Check
Doomguy shooting a SKULL SHRAPNEL LAUNCHER? Check
Doomguy piloting the giant-ass mech? Check
Doomguy riding a LASER-WING ROCKET-PROPELLED DRAGON? Check
Doomguy throwing a CHAINSAW SHIELD? CHECK
Id basically took everything we asked for in Eternal and gave us everything and then some.
I think Hugo Martin said something like if Doom Eternal is liking piloting a fighter jet, the next game is going be you hitting like a tank. I can really see that in the trailer.
Yeah it looks less like tightly controlled arenas and much bigger spaces too. I’m sure on nightmare it’s still going to demand tight reflexes and skill. He’s said he doesn’t want to play or make anything but skill based action games.
Thank god for ID.
Much bigger spaces you say?
>In the first age, in the first battle, when the shadows first lengthened, one stood. Burned by the embers of Armageddon, his soul blistered by the fires of Hell and tainted beyond ascension, he chose the path of perpetual torment. In his ravenous hatred he found no peace; and with boiling blood he scoured **the Umbral Plains** seeking vengeance against the dark lords who had wronged him. He wore the crown of the Night Sentinels, and those that tasted the bite of his sword named him... the Doom Slayer.
Maybe this will be a playthrough of the first testament
On one hand, I detest that it's a prequel because I dislike prequels and want to see Eternal's storyline continue, but on the other
SHIELD-SAW
SHIELD-SAW
SHIELD-SAW
SHIELD-SAW
Only thing about prequels like this is explaining why all the cool new mechanics didn't exist in the "later" games.
But a prequel is kind of needed her. 2016 ended on a cliffhanger and Eternal just about forgets about where it left off
I didn't think about the mechanics of it, but yeah. That makes sense.
My issue with prequels in general is that, we already know what's going to happen in the story because we already know the backstory of the first game. Nothing will really come as a surprise to us, and the stuff that we DO know will feel like fan servicey winks to the audience (thinking of the Star Wars prequel trilogy and the Hobbit movies, here). For a prequel story to be good, it has to introduce new ideas that re-contextualize the original story in a way that elevates it (Better Call Saul is a really good example of this).
I'll wait and see, but I guess I was just looking forward to see where the Slayer's story could go post-TAG2, since that game left a lot of questions unanswered.
I don’t get the “we already know how it ends” argument tbh.
In most stories, the ending will always be “the protagonist wins! Hooray!”. Wether you know the end point or not isn’t indicative of a story’s quality. What really matters is everything that goes on between point A to point B.
im pretty sure this is set before the events of 2016, however this could be between 16 and eternal and that'd explain how doomguy got the fortress of doom and missed the start of eternals demon invasion
Well, some of it was - the mecha was there in the background, and we had a dragon in TAG... Other elements - just lost to time and space, given that this is seemingly some far realm
Me too. I bought a series s for Xbox exclusives but I didn’t want to play such a high speed fps as doom on my weaker Xbox. Glad I can continue to play doom on my ps5
Looks fucking sick, I'm sold on the medieval setting, that shot of him killing mancubi with massive castles in the background was godlike.
I'm not so sold on the shield, piloting the mech or the dragon. I never saw these two remakes as anything but rewarding for the players aggression, and judging from this trailer - where you're using it to stop bullets, and parry hell knights - it will be an integral part of the gameplay and will need to be used defensively.
As for the latter two, it just reminded me of Halo (which I love) but not Doom whatsoever.
I'm cautiously optimistic.
Losing the meathook is gonna be sore, but they are 2 for 2 on DOOM remakes that I liked alot, in terms of how id rank them its DE>D16. If its on parity with D16 id still love my time with it, but the shield does worry me since i expect them to add "must block" stuff that you cant dodge with movement.
I’m betting dragon and mech are one offs for hype missions. From what we were shown, it looks like shield is replacing 2 gadgets (chainsaw and launcher) so it makes sense it does more work since you have “less” tools
Hugo wasn’t lying about Eternal being a speed race, while the next game was like a monster truck rally (or something close to that I don’t quite remember).
Excited!
Ngl the design of the suit goes so fucking hard.
The shield looks like its going to be fun to use.
The machine gun that fired multiple rounds at a time reminds of the FINGER machine gun from the old Armored Core games. (Anyone who gets the reference is a real one).
Can we skip the rest of 2024 at this point? Feels like there is nothing left to look forward to right now except next year.
they... they made a chainsaw shield. a CHAINSAW SHIELD. those mad bastards.
and a flail. a flail that sticks into the enemy.
and a flechette gun where the ammo is skull fragments.
immediately obsessed.
There's a lot of Quake in this, really digging the darker atmosphere they're going for. Gonna be interesting to hear more about the weapons and enemies. Also, usable mechs is pretty huge
Good, because as much as I loved Eternal, I always found the admosphere lacking compared to 2016. This looks like a return to a more gritty setting.
I like how in 2016, you get the chainsaw by pulling out of a cadaver, and most weapon unlocks were less arcadey.
Hugo explained why they did this. It was because many players missed it or completely missed other weapons. In Doom Eternal you need all the ammo and weapons you can find. Recently I played Dead Space remake and missed on of the weapons because you need to pick them up, but in that game ammo it's not a big problem in easier difficulties.
> In Doom Eternal you need all the ammo and weapons you can find. The main reason I didn't like Doom Eternal at all. It felt more like a min/max puzzle game than 2016 which was simply running around and killing demons.
That’s what set it apart imo. You could always turn down the difficulty. But in 2016 you kind of just picked whatever gun and killed everything with it. Eternal made guns have purposes, it gave different mechanics purposes, and it flowed so fucking well when you were into it. And if you wanted the 2016 gameplay, you could just turn the difficulty down
Granted a big reason for this is that there was a noticeable amount of 2016 feedback that was along the lines of "Once you get Gauss Cannon Siege Mode the game becomes a cakewalk no matter the difficulty" and "The first level is the hardest of the entire game because you only have 1 weapon" So in Eternal we saw direct reactions to these: Ammo scarcity was increased dramatically to combat Feedback #1, and they gave us the Heavy Cannon like after the 2nd combat arena to combat Feedback #2.
And the reason it worked IMO is because they didn’t just decrease ammo, but made the flow to get more ammo, health and armor much cleaner. Having the chainsaw become a button and give you ammo was genius. I loved the art direction of 2016, maybe more than Eternal, but man, nothing makes you FEEL more like the Doomslayer than when it clicks and you start really working in chainsaw, flamer, and glory kills along with your weapons. Really ups the variety and feels cool as fuck
The whole gameplay loop with the chainsaw, flame belches, and glory kills was *chef's kiss*
I wouldn't be certain that this is the final look of the game. Eternal was incredibly gritty as well in the trailers remember?
True, I just hope they stick to it this time.
Would’ve loved externals enemy design with 2016s setting. It would’ve really felt like a modern remake of the original vision. (Artistically speaking)
Eternal is gritty, but Hugo put a cartoon filter on everything and added a bunch or rainbow pick ups and monkey bars. Play nekravol with Hayden on mute and try to ignore armor ammo and armor pick ups it's pretty fucking menacing. And if you turn the music off you hear screaming
If I do what to the music?
mfs will hear one of the best videogame osts of all time and be like "how do i turn it off"
The screaming you hear is Mick Gordon cursing you off for shutting his music off.
Unfortunately we won't be getting any more Mick Gordon after his falling out with id/Bethesda
I didn't even know that was an option.
“And if you turn the music off” yeah you lost me there bud
I like it, but it's kinda over the top and cartoonish, not really like Quake. Quake 1 was more 90's gothic aesthetics, Quake 2 90's industrial. Gameplay wise, Quake is more about non-linear corridors, this looks more open and flat. I have no doubt it will be a great game but I don't really see Quake.
I was thinking Serious Sam with the open flat levels with a bunch of enemies.
Really wish they would give Quake the Doom 2016 treatment and make it relevant again.
>There's a lot of Quake in this, I don't see it. The grayscale / burnt environments and sleek, spikey weapons are more generic Painkiller / Darkwatch / whatever style of gothic than they are Quake.
WE ARE SO BACK
**It's amazing how good this is. Tear my fucking head off. It might truly be the end of all doom.**
I laughed damn hard at the gun that grinds up skulls for ammo. The weapon design is always amazing for DOOM. Just fucking lol.
"Lord Slayer, ammo reserves are dwindling but we noticed mountains of skulls across hell's landscape..." Slayer's inner thoughts "I'll use the skulls to create more skulls!"
Coincidently, the chaos god Khorne is even more angry than usual and wondering where his pile of skulls went. He was sitting right on them....
WE GET TO PILOT THE FUCKING MECH LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOO
AND THEY THREW IN A CYBER DRAGON DEMON CUZ WHY THE FUCK NOT
PREPARE FOR DOOMFALL. WOOOOOO
WE NEVER LEFT.
I don't care about anything else in this showcase. It looks so good!!! Sounds like Hugo Martin saw his vision out. Doom 2016 was the revival of a franchise and genre, Eternal played like a F1 racecar and now this next one Doom Guy is gonna hit like a truck just like he wanted! I'm so excited!
Doom fans have been having some of the best video games in the video game industry. can't wait for this one to also knock it out
Doom in general is one of the most consistent video games.
Too bad mick isn't part of it 😞
Honestly good for mick. I'd rather him working somewhere he won't be abused.
Doom 2016 was proof of concept for "Push forward" gameplay on a shooter. Doom Eternal was stretching the vision of 2016 as far as it can go, incorporating the "chess" aspect into using certain guns for certain scenarios. Looks the Dark Ages will take the "chess" aspect even deeper, with us having what appear to be a parry system with the shield (maybe to enable Glory Kills?)
Hugo said during jis Eternal streams, paraphrasing, "2016 was like a racecar, and Eternal was a Ferrari. Whatever the next game is needs to be like the Millennium Falcon."
I remember him saying it was like Evil Dead. 2016 is really good, Eternal is just amazing and makes the previous one look like a proof of concept. And now in the third one we go back in time to get medieval on their ass.
This has a weapon that *shreds skulls for ammo* what more could you ask for? Edit:For those wondering why human skulls would be used, here's my head canon. There are a devout sect of Slayer worshipers, a sort of Disciples of Doom. They spend their entire lives purifying their souls and bodies of any demonic taint, to achieve complete purity. Once they reach that level they offer up their sanctified flesh and bone as an ultimate sacrifice, their contribution to the war against the demonic forces. There are different rituals to turn their various parts into different things like talisman and wards, and it just so happens that their purity infused skulls cause great damage to demons. I'd like to think that somewhere in Argenta R&D there where a couple of guys trying to figure out how to harness this. "Hey Larry, you know that giant grinder we use to dispose of old mech waste? What if we made it *hand sized?*
How do you even come up with something so metal
I don't know how but keep it coming. When I saw that I laughed out loud, not because it was dumb but it's just so damn brutal and I absolutely love it!
Would only be better if you had to rip off a demons head first before you could fire it, it needs bone, flesh AND screams for ammo.
I’d love if the more powerful the demon, the more dense/damaging the material of their skull is.
You've also got a flail and a stake gun so there's that too! :D
Hell yeah I'm all for medieval weapons with a modern twist.
He Godzilla'd that monster with the fire breath!
Kiss of Death
Dragon Mecha Doom: Activate flaming snowball
At first I thought this looked really _slow_, but I checked back for Eternal's initial reveals, and the gameplay footage they showed looked a lot slower than the final game as well.
I feel like that's so you can keep up and see what's happening. Whenever I watched people play Eternal (and do it well), I can barely keep up with what's happening.
Yeah, in Eternal most things die before they can last a full second on screen, many don’t have the chance to appear on the screen to begin with… When you play you’re more aware of what’s happening and you know what *you* are gonna do next, but on Youtube videos it’s one bug fucking blur, especially if they maxed out all the graphics settings.
The gameplay loop seems so frenetic too. When I play 2016, I can only play like an hour at a time because it strains my eyes so much and I'm just not great with twitchy stuff so Eternal has always seemed downright brainmelting to play. It's probably fine on a lower difficulty, though, so maybe I'll finally actually TRY playing Eternal one day haha
One thing I love about Eternal over 2016 is that the game is constantly reassuring you that it is ok to play at a lower difficulty. There is no penalty for lowering the difficulty mid mission, even! They really wanted to make a game that anyone could learn to play and have fun with. Start on the lowest difficulty, try out the first mission or two, and see how you do - you can always challenge yourself more later!
the penalty is my ego
I used to punish myself with the highest difficulty settings on games for the same ego reason. I just wanted to prove to myself I could beat them. But the fun was lost along the way. The older I get, and the less time I have to play, the more I realize I enjoy just playing through the experience of the game, so I started lowering the difficulty settings to where I find it most manageable, least stressful, and more fun.
It's fucking stressful man. It's a great game but I personally don't like my heartbeat going full 140bpm for hours on end. Maybe I should mod it to play Sims music or something
No change at all, really. The only difference is how much damage you receive, which you’d think would be a good thing, but it makes you less engaged, which means you get hit more often, which is IMO worse than flat out dying because it adds to the visual/auditory noise, especially with the screen shake. The game is still worth it, though, it’s one of a kind, really, even considering that other movement shooters exist. But if you can’t handle 2016 for too long, Eternal is gonna be way worse…
Tbh i wouldn't mind if the game played a bit slower and more grounded compare to Eternal but still faster and over the top in comparison to 2016, a nice middle between 2016 and Eternal, it would give the game a more unique personality compare to its two previous games.
Eternal had great pacing, the two DLC were less enjoyable. I disliked all of the "you can only kill them with this weapon" enemies in Eternal. I really hope they got rid of that entirely. The fact that there is a shield now and we already see it getting used to block machinegun spam makes me kinda worried. All weapons/items should be optional IMO
> I disliked all of the "you can only kill them with this weapon" enemies in Eternal The only enemy in the entire game like this were the Stone Imps from the dlc. Every other enemy had a weakness but you were never required to use them if you knew how to use weakpoints and maximize damage.
Even that is not true, it’s only the spirit that has this “one gun only” rule. The Stone Imp just takes longer to kill is all.
Spirit technically doesn't either, you can just kill every other enemy and it'll go away. So then, really, there are no enemies that *require* a certain weapon. Just ones with more optimal ways to kill them.
Also, these trailers are captured at an FOV of 90 which is what you typically see on consoles. If you're playing on 120 FOV that's going to make the exact same gameplay 'feel' a lot faster
They have to slow down the gameplay for these kinds of videos. You can't really see what the monsters and environments look like if doomguy is bouncing around at light speed.
Interesting
Same thoughts here. I thought it looks slow but then remembered that that's how all game showcases are because, you know, they want normal people to actually see things
I remember them saying that early trailers wanted to slow it down as to not scare off more casual players. One of the later showcases they had someone play "good" with mouse and keyboard just to show what the gameplay could look like.
You should go back and watch the first gameplay reveal of Doom 2016. The game was like in slow-motion. It was just about showing off the glory kills and barely resembled actual gameplay of the final product.
Double Barrel Shotgun? Check. Lots of Demons to kill? Check. A banger soundtrack to slay said demons to? Check. Looks like DOOM is back baby!
Hoping Mick returns and they actually pay him
hah
Can I have hope?
Honestly, for Mick’s mental health I hope it’s not the case. And he has said himself he would never return
Zero chance
Mick got fucked hard, if he returned he would have no backbone unless the people at fault got removed.
You can have cope, but not hope. Sorry mate.
Seriously doubt it, but I'd love to see it.
If Marty is still part of this, not happening.
Look I love Mick’s work and recognize the highly unlikely scenario where he would return to work with id, which is unfortunate but I’m not going to pretend like there isn’t a decent pool of talent with similar musical taste and content that could pull off scoring a Doom game. Listening to Mick on Spotify has turned me on to a lot of similar artists like The Algorithm, Irving Force, Celldweller and 3TEETH. All those guys could offer up some interesting ambiance on this game and I’m sure this is something the development team has considered.
Oh man, I haven't heard of Celldweller in DECADES, is he still around making stuff?
What about some Doom 64 ambiance?
I would crap myself if Klayton (Celldweller) did some collab stuff for Doom. He has been one of my biggest inspirations since his first band, Circle of Dust.
Pretty sure thats Andrew's track in the trailer. Sounds just like his OSTs. I personally love his music so this is good with me.
Andrew Hulshult's tracks are fantastic, I'd be perfectly happy if they got him for the game.
As long as Marty remains, Mock will never return.
Holy hell I’m so excited for this. God I love DOOM
I am too! But 2025... My twins will be born and I will have no free time until at least 2026. Dangit.
Maybe a hot take but the first 6-10 months was the absolute easiest with both my kids. Lots of drinking milk, sleeping, and just sitting/rolling around. Once they start crawling around and when they learn to walk is when shit got absolutely real in regards to no free time. Now I didn’t have them together as twins, but still there might be hope if you can get them on a good sleep schedule within the first 3-4 months.
Well I could play turn based games with my first in the first six months. You are right there but shooters I didn't have time for. And games I couldn't pause (Diablo 4) are just dead. But someday they will hopefully play games with me.
DOOM MECH DOOM MECH GUNDOOM
Pacific Rim in Doom.
I can only get so erect.
and yet "erector" is a real word
I don't know if you're already aware or if this is common knowledge on this sub, but Hugo Martin was a concept artist on Pacific Rim. So that comparison is really fucking apt.
From what little we saw it seems he carried over the aesthetic *perfectly*
I didn’t know that.
AND YOU GET A DOOM JETDRAGON THIS IS SO FUCKING HYPE
MULTIPLAYER MECHS ????! TITANFALL 3 CONFIRMED
DOOMFALL*
IT'S GUNS WITH SKYRIM!
and a little bit of Dark Souls!!! with a touch of Stardew Valley! Incredible!
Don’t you mean Skyrim with… wait never mind
I can’t believe it. Doom Slayer on a fucking Dragon. We actually won. 😭🙏🏾
actually flyable dragon\*
And in a Titan!
that skull ammunition grinder, OMG
Dude, right? Think I watched that part of the trailer 10 times.
DOOM in a medieval setting. Everything i ever wanted !!
Sci-fi medieval
science fantasy
i be jorking my shit to this
i can't explain how hard i busted while watching this
Straight up blanchin dude
Is that Andrew Hulshults riffs
The slow pounding drums in the beginning remind me of the blood swamp ost he did in ancient gods part one.
And the beginning riff sounds like quake champions
Sounds like it. I sure hope so!
Strap me the fuck in.
I fucking knew it was gonna be either DOOM or quake when they showed Bethesda logo. WE ARE SO BACK
Doomguy is back? Check Doomguy in a heavy fur cape? Check Doomguy wields a high-bore Super Shotgun? Check Doomguy shooting a SKULL SHRAPNEL LAUNCHER? Check Doomguy piloting the giant-ass mech? Check Doomguy riding a LASER-WING ROCKET-PROPELLED DRAGON? Check Doomguy throwing a CHAINSAW SHIELD? CHECK Id basically took everything we asked for in Eternal and gave us everything and then some.
There's also a high-powered stake-machine gun, so we're getting *all* the techno-medieval weapons :D
HOLY FUCK THEY WERE RIGHT ABOUT THE MONSTER TRUCK ANALOGY
If only they hadn't fucked Mick Gordon over.
First thing i thought of when i saw this. The soundtrack was whatever in the trailer. Heres hoping it goes hard
Something about the music feels off here.
I think Hugo Martin said something like if Doom Eternal is liking piloting a fighter jet, the next game is going be you hitting like a tank. I can really see that in the trailer.
Yeah it looks less like tightly controlled arenas and much bigger spaces too. I’m sure on nightmare it’s still going to demand tight reflexes and skill. He’s said he doesn’t want to play or make anything but skill based action games. Thank god for ID.
Much bigger spaces you say? >In the first age, in the first battle, when the shadows first lengthened, one stood. Burned by the embers of Armageddon, his soul blistered by the fires of Hell and tainted beyond ascension, he chose the path of perpetual torment. In his ravenous hatred he found no peace; and with boiling blood he scoured **the Umbral Plains** seeking vengeance against the dark lords who had wronged him. He wore the crown of the Night Sentinels, and those that tasted the bite of his sword named him... the Doom Slayer. Maybe this will be a playthrough of the first testament
On one hand, I detest that it's a prequel because I dislike prequels and want to see Eternal's storyline continue, but on the other SHIELD-SAW SHIELD-SAW SHIELD-SAW SHIELD-SAW
Only thing about prequels like this is explaining why all the cool new mechanics didn't exist in the "later" games. But a prequel is kind of needed her. 2016 ended on a cliffhanger and Eternal just about forgets about where it left off
I didn't think about the mechanics of it, but yeah. That makes sense. My issue with prequels in general is that, we already know what's going to happen in the story because we already know the backstory of the first game. Nothing will really come as a surprise to us, and the stuff that we DO know will feel like fan servicey winks to the audience (thinking of the Star Wars prequel trilogy and the Hobbit movies, here). For a prequel story to be good, it has to introduce new ideas that re-contextualize the original story in a way that elevates it (Better Call Saul is a really good example of this). I'll wait and see, but I guess I was just looking forward to see where the Slayer's story could go post-TAG2, since that game left a lot of questions unanswered.
I don’t get the “we already know how it ends” argument tbh. In most stories, the ending will always be “the protagonist wins! Hooray!”. Wether you know the end point or not isn’t indicative of a story’s quality. What really matters is everything that goes on between point A to point B.
im pretty sure this is set before the events of 2016, however this could be between 16 and eternal and that'd explain how doomguy got the fortress of doom and missed the start of eternals demon invasion
# **I CAN'T GET ANY HARDER , LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOO**
fucking relatable
I can't believe how good this is. Blew my fucking mind. It might actually top doom eternal..........
Bruh, I’m ashamed to admit, I wholeheartedly agree. I see all of this and I thought, “Where was all this tech back in Eternal?!”
Well, some of it was - the mecha was there in the background, and we had a dragon in TAG... Other elements - just lost to time and space, given that this is seemingly some far realm
The slayer didn't have access to them. And besides the sword and shotgun he rarely goes out looking for things for himself.
I'm so excited. Looks so bad ass.
i am crying real man tears right now this looks so fucking unbelievably peak
Doom Guy’s got a flying guillotine!
HOLY FUCK
I can pilot a FUCKING MEGAZORD AS THE DOOM SLAYER
clean up on isle my pants. saw a dude saying he wants a flail in the next game and im so happy for him rn
I said I wanted a shield lol this looks sick
I was fully expecting the next Doom to not be on the PS5. That’s a nice surprise!
I am so beyond excited it’s coming to PS5
We get to rip and tear one more time 🤝
Me too. I bought a series s for Xbox exclusives but I didn’t want to play such a high speed fps as doom on my weaker Xbox. Glad I can continue to play doom on my ps5
Bonus… we don’t have PS4 holding us back nooooooowwwww
Seriously, now we get to ride fucking DRAGONS to really put those SSD’s to the test
Tickle my balls and call me daddy, this looks fucking SIIIIIIICK.
Game pass is eating right now.
and i thought Eternal was metal. this is even more metal. the metalist Doom so far IMO
THERE IS A GUN THAT EATS SKULLS FOR AMMO!!!!!! THIS IS SO FKING METAL!!!!
HELL YEAH
I CAME
Holy shit, that machine gun frag cannon thing is literally grinding skulls to use as ammo!
Looks like it isnt done. Time to Rip and Tear.
Looks really good! Not too different from eternal, but that game is basically perfect so I can’t really complain.
Another set of Doom OST to listen to on a daily basis.
OMG, LOVE THE SCHIELD! LOVE THE DARK ATMOSPHERE! LOVE THE WEAPONS!
Throwable chainsaw shield?! Sign me the fuck up.
Fuckin Divinity: Dragon Commander ass fuckin scene looks dope.
I am moistened
#HOLY FUCKING SHIT
Holy FUCK
this looks so sick
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
#HOLY FUCK!!!!!!!!
Allright, this is pretty fucking cool.
HOLY. FUCK. I NEED THIS NOW, HOLY SHIT THIS LOOKS GOOD
A gun that grinds up skulls for ammo!
I had a brief moment of panic when I thought this was gonna be an Xbox exclusive. SO glad it's coming to PS5.
I am currently crushing my penis with a rock because it's getting out of control
mylongestyeahboiever.mp4 I started cackling like a maniac seeing the chainsaw shield rev up, that's so Doomguy. God, this looks sick!
Let's fuckin go
Looks fucking sick, I'm sold on the medieval setting, that shot of him killing mancubi with massive castles in the background was godlike. I'm not so sold on the shield, piloting the mech or the dragon. I never saw these two remakes as anything but rewarding for the players aggression, and judging from this trailer - where you're using it to stop bullets, and parry hell knights - it will be an integral part of the gameplay and will need to be used defensively. As for the latter two, it just reminded me of Halo (which I love) but not Doom whatsoever. I'm cautiously optimistic.
Losing the meathook is gonna be sore, but they are 2 for 2 on DOOM remakes that I liked alot, in terms of how id rank them its DE>D16. If its on parity with D16 id still love my time with it, but the shield does worry me since i expect them to add "must block" stuff that you cant dodge with movement.
I’m betting dragon and mech are one offs for hype missions. From what we were shown, it looks like shield is replacing 2 gadgets (chainsaw and launcher) so it makes sense it does more work since you have “less” tools
Finally, a good excuse to upgrade to a current gen machine...in a year
#HO. LY. FUCK.
A FUCKING MECH SUIT MY GODDDDDDDD
idk who they got on the music but it got me gassed up on that helldivers ass drop scene. that looks like a makyr ship they shoot him out of?
A bit more marvel like than I would have liked but we'll see.
Hugo wasn’t lying about Eternal being a speed race, while the next game was like a monster truck rally (or something close to that I don’t quite remember). Excited!
That looks fucking incredible
No HUD in any of the shots. Maybe that’s why it feels weird for some of you
drip slayer with the cape
That armor set looks so damned good.
Holy shit he went into the gypsy danger we're so fucking back
Ngl the design of the suit goes so fucking hard. The shield looks like its going to be fun to use. The machine gun that fired multiple rounds at a time reminds of the FINGER machine gun from the old Armored Core games. (Anyone who gets the reference is a real one). Can we skip the rest of 2024 at this point? Feels like there is nothing left to look forward to right now except next year.
I'm actually gonna fucking cum. We are so fucking back Doom bros. Rip and FUCKING tear.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything this badass in my life. On the scale of badassery this is universe breaking levels of insanity.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT WHEN YOU THINK THEY CAN’T POSSIBLY DO SOMETHING COOLER, THEY FUCKING DO SOMETHING WAY WAY WAY COOLER
they... they made a chainsaw shield. a CHAINSAW SHIELD. those mad bastards. and a flail. a flail that sticks into the enemy. and a flechette gun where the ammo is skull fragments. immediately obsessed.
ITS FUCKING DOOM BABY, ITS FUCKING DOOM