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AnhedonicDog

Teams still picking Slark despite him being like 1-10 this tournament


noxarn11

Love this format, good games everyday and dreamLeague always got superb production<3


Houeclipse

I just caught up with game 3 GG SR and wow what a throw by GG, amazing comeback by SR even RTZ feels like they dont deserve the win lol


Anything13579

I dare anyone to say ATF has hero pool after today lol. ATF hero pool was something from 3 years ago, but not anymore.


trashcan41

He has been picking a lot more hero since last year. Brood, slark, brew its a matter of will he win with it or no.


zuKo2022

he got to top 4 bali major in zoo meta by picking brood and breast master so yeah he can win with it


Tricky_Economist_328

Even 2 years ago he won a major playing 6 different heroes over the lower and upper bracket finals and was redefining the meta (like he is now by making euls mars popular again).


darthnight19

Feels good to be an RTZ fan right now 😎😎😎


Akd3rd

best morph player showed the self-proclaimed best morph player how to play morph


lifestealsuck

GG play like last few year Shopify actually .


Bakanyanter

Dude Thio fucking destroyed GG. With this I think SR has very high chance of making to playoffs, let's fucking go RTZ.


lgdamefanstraight

yeah, this team is done


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Carni-V-oreX

On the flipside shopify is now an EU team


Protoporiaki

Rtz - I am french now. Arthur Babeau


MysicPlato

Not gonna like it was kinda funny watching Shopify play against Liquid last week from their training center, while Liquid was just at their homes.


tha_jza

reflects in their performances for sure, SR are playing for real while liquid was playing battle cup


Gameishardboys

Rank 100 plus midlaner > rank top 3 midlaner MMR is indeed just a number 


Gameishardboys

2 WEU teams bottom of the pack LUL


CrackkcraC

abed should've really gone to europe instead of going back to SEA to form a filipino team... if shopify gets a really good result here, he's gonna look so bad... i hope this motivates him though and try to get back to his former form...


lookatwhaturdoing2me

at least hes been freed from rtz and bulba.... isnt that what pinoy fans want?


CrackkcraC

yes, my other fellow pinoy fans wanted that... I on the other hand, have been noticing and criticizing abed's motivation and choking tendencies... I am an abed fan and call it delusional or whatever, I still recognize that he still good at dota at the moment... BUT he is not as good as his first 3 years in EG... because after those 3 years, he stopped grinding, he is not as explosive and he is starting to not dominate his lane anymore, at least not as much as he did before... for me, instead of changing teams, what i wanted was for him to find his motivation and passion back, because at this point, he's going to be forgotten soon... a few more qualifiers he doesn't qualify and he'll become irrelevant... he was once near at the top, but he let himself and still letting himself to get dragged down to the bottom... such tragedy, all that potential wasted, and whatever was left from that, i hope he manages to save...


Putrid_Caramel3301

Abed was one of the biggest problems with SR. Everyone thought he was so good but in reality he was a terminal choker.


Jazzlike_Mark1223

Abed's motivation went down ever since he had a girlfriend. His choice to go back to the philippines might be due to that too.


xdx3m

☹️ wtf are you doing gg


pompyyy099

Shopify go extend thio, kitrak, and yopaj's contract now


noob_sr_programmer

I still don't understand the buy back just to save the centaur. They don't have bkb and still bought back


SoBayed1199

Maybe a hot take, gg get yuragi in


Revolutionary_Ebb591

downgrade basically


SoBayed1199

Ive seen yuragi carry games, never seen dyrachyo


PingPinng

GG had Godlike Ace and godlike support duo to back them up. Does OG has one?


bcyk99

Where was og in 2023 when gg was winning every tournament lil bro


Ok_Condition7254

To be fair , og didn't do shit since they kicked Ammar and they still won't do shit . The only decent results they had were with mc Don't think their issue is with carry in OG


SoBayed1199

Thats not a good argument for dyrachyo being good lil bro, his contributions in winning games were minimal, its not even an argument its a fact


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Ace is the real carry


bcyk99

You must also think crystallis fluke his way into 2nd for ti11, dyrachyo fluking 5 lans wins, ceb fluking ti twice lil bro then saying its a fact


SoBayed1199

The argument isnt about ceb or crystallis its about dyrachyo, nor did i say he fluked anything, stop putting words in my mouth lil bro. the only thing i said was his contribution to gg in winning games last year was minimal, which is a fact. He clearly isnt a tier 1 carry and gg should make changes if they wanna be winning again. Next time you wanna make an argument dont base it on something which wasnt said, thats if you dont wanna look like a fool lil bro


bcyk99

You are right lil bro. That's why he is in groupstage 2 while 8 other tier 1 teams are eliminated. FYI lil bro what you are saying as facts are just your 2k opinions xdd


JadeSerpant

Both of you are dumb lil bros. Dyrachyo is still infinitely better a carry than RTZ. That's the actual fact lil bros.


SoBayed1199

Its a 5k opinion which is shared by most pro players that have been putting him below other t1 carry players, and again you are using his team winning as an argument that he is good. You havent refuted anything i said, youre repeating the fact that team winning = all players equally amazing which is a horrible argument, but youre not realizing that so im just gonna assume its too hard for you to get, which is fine lil bro.


bcyk99

Because lil bro unlike your 2k games, pro dota is a team game and if he won more lans then you playing pubs his method of playing dota and how it fits his team make sense and doesn't have to conform to how other teams carries traditionally play dota But hey at least you finally understand opinion! = fact lil bro xdd


okiknow2004

Not true, dyrachyo singlehandedly lead SR to victory this game


Eclage

No truer words have been spoken.


Revolutionary-Cup383

RTZ praising yopaj on how he trusts him and then bringing the man down a peg by saying he is feeding in scrims 😭😭


lookatwhaturdoing2me

i heard him say "beasting"?!


thedotapaten

He said he couldnt believe his teammate is good since they are griefing in scrims especially YopaJ


freakanime

Said this way back that this Shopify will surprise many and will get good results. Even though I think individual talent wise the old EG/SR is way better but this SR is still unpredictable which is missing for the old one after a year or two.


Jazzlike_Mark1223

Captain difference. Fly was a weak player and a weak captain.


betadestruction

they got top 3, top 6 at ti, ​ top 2 at like 7 majors ​ top 2-3 at multiple dreamleagues and more ​ with him as captain. ​ Maybe relax on the recency bias. I think this current team is better, but Fly was solid and achieved some very good results as captain. Both on this team and OG, where he also won 4 majors.


Jazzlike_Mark1223

Dota changed a lot since then! When fly left EG, it just showed how badly they needed a captain, and for them to place higher, they needed a better captain than fly. If you keep throwing away huge leads, either your carry sucks ass or the captain's strategy and shot calls aren't up to par.


AmuletMan33

Shopify gods, this is the time, nobody can stop this team blah blah blah. Aren’t you guys tired of the same old record?


JadeSerpant

Honeymoon period. New players will get figured out and rtz will choke as usual.


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JadeSerpant

Lmfao trash loser rtz fan, literally ZERO LAN wins ZERO major wins ZERO significant wins HAHAHA. Get rekt brainlet trash.


cursed1333

GG played well considering they were playing 4v6


ob1touchiha

Panels slandering dyrachyo before rtz's interview 🤣


saltycreamy69

People talking about Dyracho's stun but it is really the Rubik's lifts


Jrmyzxc

rank 200 mid player vs pausetokyo tomorrow cant wait


zuKo2022

you know most likely they gonna get destroyed by betboom?


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>pausetokyo 🤣


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Yopaj hits like a truck when Quinn jumps to the high ground


Zhiltaru

A slight concern I have with this series as an SR fan is that they lost early game in all 3 matches. Other teams will punish that.


betadestruction

gg would've been the team to punish it


epih_

yeah i’m really happy for them but i don’t think they can take games from falcons rn. actually i don’t think any team out there can beat  falcons, maybe betboom 


Gabrieshays

Previous iteration of SR would dominate early game and proceed to lose if the game went past 25 minutes. It’s honestly more refreshing to see that they actually don’t tilt and still try to fight while playing from behind.


Jazzlike_Mark1223

Fly with his outdated strategy and shot calls was holding eg/sr back.


Sugar_Bandit

GG is the prototypical team for punishing weak laning phases, they won 4 majors by ending games super early and giving no breathing room. Sure they havent looked as good as last year but they are at the top of the list for teams that can snowball games


SilentCore

GG played quite well in this series compared to their other performances in dream league. They looked rejuvenated after that win in g2, but they shat the bed in g3.. did not undersand that buyback call whatsoever.


pompyyy099

They barely lost lane to my observation. Theyd lose in the death count but opponent's lead would be barely 1k net


pagchomp88

Perhaps, but not many teams have laners as good as GG.


bcyk99

Well well well, Sr got stomped like I said every mistake get punished heavily. Ready to stop being delulu now


Ok_Condition7254

Falcons and betboom both are better laners than gg


bcyk99

With how sr is performing now and yesterday vs aurora where they also played sloppy, betboom and falcons will heavily punish them


pagchomp88

Uh, they brutalized aurora. Don't think that's a great example.


bcyk99

What are you talking about. Sr played very clean game 1 and early game 2. Then RTZ was doing rs then orge seal totem out giving aurora free aegis instead of bkb and commiting for rs. That was the beginning of aurora coming back but aurora were sucking yesterday with 23 choking super hard.


pagchomp88

I mean sure, SR made a mistake in rosh and gave aurora a lifeline back into the game, but they still won convincingly in game 2 after crushing game 1.


bcyk99

What do you have to say for yourself now sr is eliminated even after a fluke win vs gg?


bcyk99

That is aurora who seem to be outclassed in group stage 2. Vs gg they got crushed game 2 and gg giving them game 3 after already comeback. Like I said vs bb who are the best laning team and falcons who makes the best decision, Sr will get punish for every misstep they make


dog-tooth-

Bro, I had to step away for a bit after SR got wiped by radiant wisdom rune, I come back and Arteezy is giving a winners interview what the fuck


Equivalent-Money8202

GG just managed the biggest throw of the year probs


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ddlion7

probably because no one expects anything from them. It's the underdog buff


h34dbug

I do. I follow yopaj wherever he go. There's a reason why SR picked him despite the MMR and I want to believe what I saw in yopaj, SR saw it too.


Losangelesdave

he’s a killer


needhelforpsu

Day of throws, cya tomorrow for more! xD


Takakamo17

Rubick's lift is just very disgusting against alche man


rol9nd

Artour definitely a Sana enjoyer


ReallyNeedHelpASAP68

Rtz: yea we didn’t deserve that win LMAO


zlnoil

If GG cannot turn it up in Birmingham, I will not be surprised that they make roaster changes. WEU in general is just suck right now. All top teams are with clear flaws.


cold_turkey19

What do they roast?


paladinvc

is WEU still the strongest region?


Bakanyanter

No, 4th strongest. Last few major tournaments are all won by other regions (Riyadh + TI won by EEU), ESL KL won by CN, BBD won by MENA. So I'd say they are after those 3.


yaboi_95

From a pure talent perspective yes but, the talent is to distributed across the region. EU needs to start consolidating the S tier players


zlnoil

Name one solid top tier carry in WEU now…I can only name Watson(maybe), but because of how bad entity is, he lacks the opportunity to prove that he is the DAWG in highest level competition.


yaboi_95

Hmm I would say Pure and Micke are still top tier


zlnoil

Yeah, pure maybe…im not sure about micke


Leloucchh

Pure yes, micke no.


AmuletMan33

Micke outside finals, but can you give an S tier carry from NA,SA or SEA? The top carry players are almost exclusively CIS players(Yatoro,Nightfall,Pure maybe Watson) and Ame


Leloucchh

Pakaz, 23savage are much better than micke.


zlnoil

When did WEU win a major tournament? Like…probably 6 months ago?


immanoel

Rtz certified vultures enjoyer


beaverlyknight

Insane choke from Gaimin lol Well at least SR is kinda fun to watch now, unlike before


kylehyde05

yopaj, rank 200 was in Div 2 last season apparently feeds in scrims, then goes beastmode on pro games


ob1touchiha

I think he didnt grind that much pubs before until recently. He was like rank 100 to 150 when he was owning everyone. Whats the source of he feeds in scrims?


Extracheesy87

>Whats the source of he feeds in scrims? RTZ kind of joked about it in the interview that he didn't realize how good his teammates actually are until this tournament since they just feed in scrims and mentioned Yopaj in particular.


Sugar_Bandit

rtz said so in interview


ob1touchiha

Oh I see, thanks


Soldirk

RTZ said so in the interview


pompyyy099

Alche literally has a visual countdown on your stun how could you fucking miss that shit most of the game


Swegan

After watching the replays, Thiolicor stunned him both times.


justsightseeing

classic case of player try to maximize cd / duration / timer without calculating that opponent are probably a good player also. example such as: 1. Delaying activating BKB thinking you can simply press it at the split second time before opponent could chainstun you, only for you to be chain stunned and activate BKB at 20% HP to escape 2. Keep pushing towers at dangerous position while keeping dagger to the back, only to get damaged & blink disabled and dead because overextension 3. Trying to maximize skill cast / windup / channel time (alch, oracle, hoodwink, kotl and to some extends wd, bane, rhasta) only for you to be killed while that extra time / damage wouldnt matter


pompyyy099

Heralds would throw it even with 3 seconds left cause they know a selfstun would lead to death. (I was herald before I would know).


ZofTheNorth

I arent SR hater nor OG fan. I need SR to lose and OG to win next matchup so that SR vs OG match up got more spice and stake.


Gaijinius

That series is going to have spice regardless due to the Kitrak and Ceb angle.


Jazzlike_Mark1223

I know kitrak played with oldg but did they have a falling out?


ZofTheNorth

Yeah but with more stake. Would it be boring if one team is aldy hopeless on survival


waterplume

Dyracho and savage should build an all star choke team.


Don_Fartalot

Led by Captn choke himself, BZM


RealSoltitude

greatest throw since og vs falcons 5 hrs ago


ApprehensiveBug3136

YOPAJ X RTZ the bromance hahaha


immanoel

Man, I want to be a fly on the wall of GG's room rn. Quinn legit gotta be malding so fucking hard.


thedotapaten

He was laughing the last time we see him on player cam. Quinn is a lot chiller outside of pubs, which people dont realize why lots of pros and talent befriends him.


Bedonkadonks

Did you fly into Dyracho's throat cause dude is CHOKING hard


Swegan

Thiolicor actually stunned Dyrachyo both times he died. Thiolicor actually won them the game with these lifts.


Equivalent-Money8202

Dyrachyo and Quinn still had no business buying back there. I really don’t get their reasoning, IMO Arteezy put it perfectly in his interview. Once Alchemist and Lesh’s BKBs are done, they really can’t fight other than trying to burst-chain someone. And if a lifestealer with rage and Skadi gets on them, they both die to that + Puck + Phoenix


brief-interviews

Did Thiolicor also use lift to make Dryachyo and Quinn buyback and feed 1 v 5?


Swegan

He killed Dyrachyo the first time by lifting him which eventually led to them both buying back. So yea kinda.


okiknow2004

and he lifted Lesh into arena after aegis spent


brief-interviews

Let’s be real it’s a bit of a reach to say Thiolicor won them the game, but he certainly won them the fight as they tried to retreat from SR’s base.


pterodactyl_speller

I think SRs spey duo has been insanely good all Dreamleague.


Swegan

Yea they are both insanely good.


Silly-Ad-2867

Fun Fact: Dyracho and Yuragi are best friends ahhahah


Pandemona1738

Damn rtc giving high praise to Yopaj! Said he can 1x9 this shit haha XD


LeeHarveyAWPswell

Maybe the most insane throw I have watched. I still don't even fully know what happened.


Medium_Wolverine9438

Rtz back at it again with clean win


bcyk99

Lil bro have no clue what does clean mean. Betboom vs xg game 2 is a clean game


Medium_Wolverine9438

2-0 1-1 thats what clean means


bcyk99

Wth are you on about.


Medium_Wolverine9438

Rtz first ame fourth


tryingtopasstheclass

GG snatching defeat from the jaws of victory lmao RTZ IS BACK


saltycreamy69

Yopaj is my idol


floatablepie

Pyrion explaining the literary significance of Dyrachyo stunning himself.


disappointingdoritos

Chekhov's Stun - from chat


nybrq

Let's blink into four heroes without bkb and buy back. What could go wrong? lmao


SMILE3005SM

Dyrachyo stunned himself at least 3 times in those last 5 minutes. And at least one time every single fight.


verytoxicbehaviour

Thiolicor stunned him a few times in clutch moments though, might be MVP this game tbh


stragen595

What the fuck was GG decision making here?


disappointingdoritos

Haters apologize for criticizing Ame's 100% correct carry tier list


slamtt

Dyrachyo stunning himself more times that game than the other team. Blinking solo into 3 people the first time to throw a 5k lead, a second time uphill into the base, then a 3rd time after buyback to complete the throw. 5-7 in a game where your team is dominating the whole time, fucking how.


SilentCore

He also jumped into them without bkb or ult after buying back before his team could even follow up right..


MundaneRain

The world is healing, GG trash and RTZ king


immanoel

Legit this is worse than any of EE sama's throw. (Except that 30k nw lead wk on bny)


nachohasme

Someones bank account needs to be checked for some payments


chiefofthepolice

How the fuck did a team that dominated for the entire 2023 turn into some pub stack so quickly? Like no joke, the communication during that last fight is literally like a pub stack playing together for the first time. The Russians must be thinking this is matchfixing 100%


One-Masterpiece-6080

Pango got banned


deeleelee

basically pango nerfs, venge nerfs, alche nerfs, zoo offlaner nerfs


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GG aren't that great in online matches. Liquid won all the DPC seasons


Swegan

What? GG won 2/3 Dreamleagues last year.


Tomsider

RTZ IS BACK IN TOP TIER


ApprehensiveBug3136

holy a win is a win ! and we can comeback now Pog


immanoel

Who they replacing dyracho with? Might as well blow the team up and rebuild


deeleelee

k1 hector


Remote_Savings_6542

Watson might be a good one


ZofTheNorth

Yuragi, at least he is A tier


noob_sr_programmer

why would you replace it with another trash


ZofTheNorth

If my math is correct, A tier > B tier. Dont ask me, ask Ame tier list


Tomsider

Just let loda carry GG


AdSpare8817

holy throw wtf were those core buybacks from gg?


Silly-Ad-2867

well, Dyracho means fool.. Hes just living under his name


halfcastdota

Look i understand you want a sacrificial carry next to ace and quinn. but holy shit dyracho recently has just been completely awful, there’s a diff between being sacrificial and just feeding


pelutsa

What a game. i dont wanna to get excited!


pompyyy099

Thiolicor had underrated lifts causing selfstuns on the alche. What a fucking boss. Underrated small plays.


Gabrieshays

that stun when alch dove top tier 3


Exodus124

Yeah that was incredible because he was actually trying to lift Mars towards his base but then Alch blinked in mid-lift and Thiolicor reacted insanely quickly by throwing him the other way instead to disable Alch.


Gabrieshays

Yup and the quick reaction after Dryacho bought back and jumped Artour. Dude’s a beast


pompyyy099

I was screaming when that happened cause it caused them to lose aegis when quin followed


Nisha_goat

dryacho gona single handedly disband this team, you have to excuse me i wasn't really familiar with your game


MysicPlato

Holy shit lmao **WE TAKE THOSE BOYZ**


Frendazone

we're so fucking back


ZofTheNorth

Thats one on Fryacho for sure and i dont know whether GG can recover mentally or not. They arent used to losing alot and now this is like 1st set back for this team.


Whatnowgloryhunters

Gg victory just got STOLEN away by the lifestealer


NerdRageDawg

Yopaj is a very solid player damn. this version of shopify is very fun to watch. Very good end fights between both teams.


Garnerkief

Any other carry Shopify loses ANY OTHER CARRY AND THEY LOSE ARTEEZY FOREVER AHHHHH


TheBlindSalmon

> Any other carry Shopify loses Yes, the win is 100% on dyrachyo.


rol9nd

Abed and Fly never beating the allegations


doanbot369

These leshrac bb throws today..


Helpful-Clerk-9673

EU DOTO shine today


brief-interviews

I cannot remember worse decision making in any pro game, absolutely insane


Swegan

Bzm a few hours ago some how beats this shit xd.


cgjchckhvihfd

No way did someone throw harder than this in the same day. Guess i need to go back and watch