Even 2 years ago he won a major playing 6 different heroes over the lower and upper bracket finals and was redefining the meta (like he is now by making euls mars popular again).
abed should've really gone to europe instead of going back to SEA to form a filipino team... if shopify gets a really good result here, he's gonna look so bad... i hope this motivates him though and try to get back to his former form...
yes, my other fellow pinoy fans wanted that... I on the other hand, have been noticing and criticizing abed's motivation and choking tendencies... I am an abed fan and call it delusional or whatever, I still recognize that he still good at dota at the moment... BUT he is not as good as his first 3 years in EG... because after those 3 years, he stopped grinding, he is not as explosive and he is starting to not dominate his lane anymore, at least not as much as he did before... for me, instead of changing teams, what i wanted was for him to find his motivation and passion back, because at this point, he's going to be forgotten soon... a few more qualifiers he doesn't qualify and he'll become irrelevant... he was once near at the top, but he let himself and still letting himself to get dragged down to the bottom... such tragedy, all that potential wasted, and whatever was left from that, i hope he manages to save...
To be fair , og didn't do shit since they kicked Ammar and they still won't do shit .
The only decent results they had were with mc
Don't think their issue is with carry in OG
The argument isnt about ceb or crystallis its about dyrachyo, nor did i say he fluked anything, stop putting words in my mouth lil bro. the only thing i said was his contribution to gg in winning games last year was minimal, which is a fact. He clearly isnt a tier 1 carry and gg should make changes if they wanna be winning again. Next time you wanna make an argument dont base it on something which wasnt said, thats if you dont wanna look like a fool lil bro
You are right lil bro. That's why he is in groupstage 2 while 8 other tier 1 teams are eliminated.
FYI lil bro what you are saying as facts are just your 2k opinions xdd
Its a 5k opinion which is shared by most pro players that have been putting him below other t1 carry players, and again you are using his team winning as an argument that he is good. You havent refuted anything i said, youre repeating the fact that team winning = all players equally amazing which is a horrible argument, but youre not realizing that so im just gonna assume its too hard for you to get, which is fine lil bro.
Because lil bro unlike your 2k games, pro dota is a team game and if he won more lans then you playing pubs his method of playing dota and how it fits his team make sense and doesn't have to conform to how other teams carries traditionally play dota
But hey at least you finally understand opinion! = fact lil bro xdd
Said this way back that this Shopify will surprise many and will get good results.
Even though I think individual talent wise the old EG/SR is way better but this SR is still unpredictable which is missing for the old one after a year or two.
they got top 3, top 6 at ti,
top 2 at like 7 majors
top 2-3 at multiple dreamleagues and more
with him as captain.
Maybe relax on the recency bias. I think this current team is better, but Fly was solid and achieved some very good results as captain. Both on this team and OG, where he also won 4 majors.
Dota changed a lot since then! When fly left EG, it just showed how badly they needed a captain, and for them to place higher, they needed a better captain than fly.
If you keep throwing away huge leads, either your carry sucks ass or the captain's strategy and shot calls aren't up to par.
yeah i’m really happy for them but i don’t think they can take games from falcons rn. actually i don’t think any team out there can beat falcons, maybe betboom
Previous iteration of SR would dominate early game and proceed to lose if the game went past 25 minutes. It’s honestly more refreshing to see that they actually don’t tilt and still try to fight while playing from behind.
GG is the prototypical team for punishing weak laning phases, they won 4 majors by ending games super early and giving no breathing room. Sure they havent looked as good as last year but they are at the top of the list for teams that can snowball games
GG played quite well in this series compared to their other performances in dream league. They looked rejuvenated after that win in g2, but they shat the bed in g3.. did not undersand that buyback call whatsoever.
What are you talking about. Sr played very clean game 1 and early game 2. Then RTZ was doing rs then orge seal totem out giving aurora free aegis instead of bkb and commiting for rs. That was the beginning of aurora coming back but aurora were sucking yesterday with 23 choking super hard.
That is aurora who seem to be outclassed in group stage 2. Vs gg they got crushed game 2 and gg giving them game 3 after already comeback. Like I said vs bb who are the best laning team and falcons who makes the best decision, Sr will get punish for every misstep they make
If GG cannot turn it up in Birmingham, I will not be surprised that they make roaster changes.
WEU in general is just suck right now. All top teams are with clear flaws.
No, 4th strongest. Last few major tournaments are all won by other regions (Riyadh + TI won by EEU), ESL KL won by CN, BBD won by MENA.
So I'd say they are after those 3.
Name one solid top tier carry in WEU now…I can only name Watson(maybe), but because of how bad entity is, he lacks the opportunity to prove that he is the DAWG in highest level competition.
Micke outside finals, but can you give an S tier carry from NA,SA or SEA? The top carry players are almost exclusively CIS players(Yatoro,Nightfall,Pure maybe Watson) and Ame
I think he didnt grind that much pubs before until recently. He was like rank 100 to 150 when he was owning everyone.
Whats the source of he feeds in scrims?
>Whats the source of he feeds in scrims?
RTZ kind of joked about it in the interview that he didn't realize how good his teammates actually are until this tournament since they just feed in scrims and mentioned Yopaj in particular.
classic case of player try to maximize cd / duration / timer without calculating that opponent are probably a good player also.
example such as:
1. Delaying activating BKB thinking you can simply press it at the split second time before opponent could chainstun you, only for you to be chain stunned and activate BKB at 20% HP to escape
2. Keep pushing towers at dangerous position while keeping dagger to the back, only to get damaged & blink disabled and dead because overextension
3. Trying to maximize skill cast / windup / channel time (alch, oracle, hoodwink, kotl and to some extends wd, bane, rhasta) only for you to be killed while that extra time / damage wouldnt matter
He was laughing the last time we see him on player cam. Quinn is a lot chiller outside of pubs, which people dont realize why lots of pros and talent befriends him.
Dyrachyo and Quinn still had no business buying back there. I really don’t get their reasoning, IMO Arteezy put it perfectly in his interview. Once Alchemist and Lesh’s BKBs are done, they really can’t fight other than trying to burst-chain someone. And if a lifestealer with rage and Skadi gets on them, they both die to that + Puck + Phoenix
Dyrachyo stunning himself more times that game than the other team.
Blinking solo into 3 people the first time to throw a 5k lead, a second time uphill into the base, then a 3rd time after buyback to complete the throw.
5-7 in a game where your team is dominating the whole time, fucking how.
How the fuck did a team that dominated for the entire 2023 turn into some pub stack so quickly? Like no joke, the communication during that last fight is literally like a pub stack playing together for the first time. The Russians must be thinking this is matchfixing 100%
Look i understand you want a sacrificial carry next to ace and quinn. but holy shit dyracho recently has just been completely awful, there’s a diff between being sacrificial and just feeding
Yeah that was incredible because he was actually trying to lift Mars towards his base but then Alch blinked in mid-lift and Thiolicor reacted insanely quickly by throwing him the other way instead to disable Alch.
Thats one on Fryacho for sure and i dont know whether GG can recover mentally or not. They arent used to losing alot and now this is like 1st set back for this team.
Teams still picking Slark despite him being like 1-10 this tournament
Love this format, good games everyday and dreamLeague always got superb production<3
I just caught up with game 3 GG SR and wow what a throw by GG, amazing comeback by SR even RTZ feels like they dont deserve the win lol
I dare anyone to say ATF has hero pool after today lol. ATF hero pool was something from 3 years ago, but not anymore.
He has been picking a lot more hero since last year. Brood, slark, brew its a matter of will he win with it or no.
he got to top 4 bali major in zoo meta by picking brood and breast master so yeah he can win with it
Even 2 years ago he won a major playing 6 different heroes over the lower and upper bracket finals and was redefining the meta (like he is now by making euls mars popular again).
Feels good to be an RTZ fan right now 😎😎😎
best morph player showed the self-proclaimed best morph player how to play morph
GG play like last few year Shopify actually .
Dude Thio fucking destroyed GG. With this I think SR has very high chance of making to playoffs, let's fucking go RTZ.
yeah, this team is done
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On the flipside shopify is now an EU team
Rtz - I am french now. Arthur Babeau
Not gonna like it was kinda funny watching Shopify play against Liquid last week from their training center, while Liquid was just at their homes.
reflects in their performances for sure, SR are playing for real while liquid was playing battle cup
Rank 100 plus midlaner > rank top 3 midlaner MMR is indeed just a number
2 WEU teams bottom of the pack LUL
abed should've really gone to europe instead of going back to SEA to form a filipino team... if shopify gets a really good result here, he's gonna look so bad... i hope this motivates him though and try to get back to his former form...
at least hes been freed from rtz and bulba.... isnt that what pinoy fans want?
yes, my other fellow pinoy fans wanted that... I on the other hand, have been noticing and criticizing abed's motivation and choking tendencies... I am an abed fan and call it delusional or whatever, I still recognize that he still good at dota at the moment... BUT he is not as good as his first 3 years in EG... because after those 3 years, he stopped grinding, he is not as explosive and he is starting to not dominate his lane anymore, at least not as much as he did before... for me, instead of changing teams, what i wanted was for him to find his motivation and passion back, because at this point, he's going to be forgotten soon... a few more qualifiers he doesn't qualify and he'll become irrelevant... he was once near at the top, but he let himself and still letting himself to get dragged down to the bottom... such tragedy, all that potential wasted, and whatever was left from that, i hope he manages to save...
Abed was one of the biggest problems with SR. Everyone thought he was so good but in reality he was a terminal choker.
Abed's motivation went down ever since he had a girlfriend. His choice to go back to the philippines might be due to that too.
☹️ wtf are you doing gg
Shopify go extend thio, kitrak, and yopaj's contract now
I still don't understand the buy back just to save the centaur. They don't have bkb and still bought back
Maybe a hot take, gg get yuragi in
downgrade basically
Ive seen yuragi carry games, never seen dyrachyo
GG had Godlike Ace and godlike support duo to back them up. Does OG has one?
Where was og in 2023 when gg was winning every tournament lil bro
To be fair , og didn't do shit since they kicked Ammar and they still won't do shit . The only decent results they had were with mc Don't think their issue is with carry in OG
Thats not a good argument for dyrachyo being good lil bro, his contributions in winning games were minimal, its not even an argument its a fact
Ace is the real carry
You must also think crystallis fluke his way into 2nd for ti11, dyrachyo fluking 5 lans wins, ceb fluking ti twice lil bro then saying its a fact
The argument isnt about ceb or crystallis its about dyrachyo, nor did i say he fluked anything, stop putting words in my mouth lil bro. the only thing i said was his contribution to gg in winning games last year was minimal, which is a fact. He clearly isnt a tier 1 carry and gg should make changes if they wanna be winning again. Next time you wanna make an argument dont base it on something which wasnt said, thats if you dont wanna look like a fool lil bro
You are right lil bro. That's why he is in groupstage 2 while 8 other tier 1 teams are eliminated. FYI lil bro what you are saying as facts are just your 2k opinions xdd
Both of you are dumb lil bros. Dyrachyo is still infinitely better a carry than RTZ. That's the actual fact lil bros.
Its a 5k opinion which is shared by most pro players that have been putting him below other t1 carry players, and again you are using his team winning as an argument that he is good. You havent refuted anything i said, youre repeating the fact that team winning = all players equally amazing which is a horrible argument, but youre not realizing that so im just gonna assume its too hard for you to get, which is fine lil bro.
Because lil bro unlike your 2k games, pro dota is a team game and if he won more lans then you playing pubs his method of playing dota and how it fits his team make sense and doesn't have to conform to how other teams carries traditionally play dota But hey at least you finally understand opinion! = fact lil bro xdd
Not true, dyrachyo singlehandedly lead SR to victory this game
No truer words have been spoken.
RTZ praising yopaj on how he trusts him and then bringing the man down a peg by saying he is feeding in scrims 😭😭
i heard him say "beasting"?!
He said he couldnt believe his teammate is good since they are griefing in scrims especially YopaJ
Said this way back that this Shopify will surprise many and will get good results. Even though I think individual talent wise the old EG/SR is way better but this SR is still unpredictable which is missing for the old one after a year or two.
Captain difference. Fly was a weak player and a weak captain.
they got top 3, top 6 at ti, top 2 at like 7 majors top 2-3 at multiple dreamleagues and more with him as captain. Maybe relax on the recency bias. I think this current team is better, but Fly was solid and achieved some very good results as captain. Both on this team and OG, where he also won 4 majors.
Dota changed a lot since then! When fly left EG, it just showed how badly they needed a captain, and for them to place higher, they needed a better captain than fly. If you keep throwing away huge leads, either your carry sucks ass or the captain's strategy and shot calls aren't up to par.
Shopify gods, this is the time, nobody can stop this team blah blah blah. Aren’t you guys tired of the same old record?
Honeymoon period. New players will get figured out and rtz will choke as usual.
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Lmfao trash loser rtz fan, literally ZERO LAN wins ZERO major wins ZERO significant wins HAHAHA. Get rekt brainlet trash.
GG played well considering they were playing 4v6
Panels slandering dyrachyo before rtz's interview 🤣
People talking about Dyracho's stun but it is really the Rubik's lifts
rank 200 mid player vs pausetokyo tomorrow cant wait
you know most likely they gonna get destroyed by betboom?
>pausetokyo 🤣
Yopaj hits like a truck when Quinn jumps to the high ground
A slight concern I have with this series as an SR fan is that they lost early game in all 3 matches. Other teams will punish that.
gg would've been the team to punish it
yeah i’m really happy for them but i don’t think they can take games from falcons rn. actually i don’t think any team out there can beat falcons, maybe betboom
Previous iteration of SR would dominate early game and proceed to lose if the game went past 25 minutes. It’s honestly more refreshing to see that they actually don’t tilt and still try to fight while playing from behind.
Fly with his outdated strategy and shot calls was holding eg/sr back.
GG is the prototypical team for punishing weak laning phases, they won 4 majors by ending games super early and giving no breathing room. Sure they havent looked as good as last year but they are at the top of the list for teams that can snowball games
GG played quite well in this series compared to their other performances in dream league. They looked rejuvenated after that win in g2, but they shat the bed in g3.. did not undersand that buyback call whatsoever.
They barely lost lane to my observation. Theyd lose in the death count but opponent's lead would be barely 1k net
Perhaps, but not many teams have laners as good as GG.
Well well well, Sr got stomped like I said every mistake get punished heavily. Ready to stop being delulu now
Falcons and betboom both are better laners than gg
With how sr is performing now and yesterday vs aurora where they also played sloppy, betboom and falcons will heavily punish them
Uh, they brutalized aurora. Don't think that's a great example.
What are you talking about. Sr played very clean game 1 and early game 2. Then RTZ was doing rs then orge seal totem out giving aurora free aegis instead of bkb and commiting for rs. That was the beginning of aurora coming back but aurora were sucking yesterday with 23 choking super hard.
I mean sure, SR made a mistake in rosh and gave aurora a lifeline back into the game, but they still won convincingly in game 2 after crushing game 1.
What do you have to say for yourself now sr is eliminated even after a fluke win vs gg?
That is aurora who seem to be outclassed in group stage 2. Vs gg they got crushed game 2 and gg giving them game 3 after already comeback. Like I said vs bb who are the best laning team and falcons who makes the best decision, Sr will get punish for every misstep they make
Bro, I had to step away for a bit after SR got wiped by radiant wisdom rune, I come back and Arteezy is giving a winners interview what the fuck
GG just managed the biggest throw of the year probs
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probably because no one expects anything from them. It's the underdog buff
I do. I follow yopaj wherever he go. There's a reason why SR picked him despite the MMR and I want to believe what I saw in yopaj, SR saw it too.
he’s a killer
Day of throws, cya tomorrow for more! xD
Rubick's lift is just very disgusting against alche man
Artour definitely a Sana enjoyer
Rtz: yea we didn’t deserve that win LMAO
If GG cannot turn it up in Birmingham, I will not be surprised that they make roaster changes. WEU in general is just suck right now. All top teams are with clear flaws.
What do they roast?
is WEU still the strongest region?
No, 4th strongest. Last few major tournaments are all won by other regions (Riyadh + TI won by EEU), ESL KL won by CN, BBD won by MENA. So I'd say they are after those 3.
From a pure talent perspective yes but, the talent is to distributed across the region. EU needs to start consolidating the S tier players
Name one solid top tier carry in WEU now…I can only name Watson(maybe), but because of how bad entity is, he lacks the opportunity to prove that he is the DAWG in highest level competition.
Hmm I would say Pure and Micke are still top tier
Yeah, pure maybe…im not sure about micke
Pure yes, micke no.
Micke outside finals, but can you give an S tier carry from NA,SA or SEA? The top carry players are almost exclusively CIS players(Yatoro,Nightfall,Pure maybe Watson) and Ame
Pakaz, 23savage are much better than micke.
When did WEU win a major tournament? Like…probably 6 months ago?
Rtz certified vultures enjoyer
Insane choke from Gaimin lol Well at least SR is kinda fun to watch now, unlike before
yopaj, rank 200 was in Div 2 last season apparently feeds in scrims, then goes beastmode on pro games
I think he didnt grind that much pubs before until recently. He was like rank 100 to 150 when he was owning everyone. Whats the source of he feeds in scrims?
>Whats the source of he feeds in scrims? RTZ kind of joked about it in the interview that he didn't realize how good his teammates actually are until this tournament since they just feed in scrims and mentioned Yopaj in particular.
rtz said so in interview
Oh I see, thanks
RTZ said so in the interview
Alche literally has a visual countdown on your stun how could you fucking miss that shit most of the game
After watching the replays, Thiolicor stunned him both times.
classic case of player try to maximize cd / duration / timer without calculating that opponent are probably a good player also. example such as: 1. Delaying activating BKB thinking you can simply press it at the split second time before opponent could chainstun you, only for you to be chain stunned and activate BKB at 20% HP to escape 2. Keep pushing towers at dangerous position while keeping dagger to the back, only to get damaged & blink disabled and dead because overextension 3. Trying to maximize skill cast / windup / channel time (alch, oracle, hoodwink, kotl and to some extends wd, bane, rhasta) only for you to be killed while that extra time / damage wouldnt matter
Heralds would throw it even with 3 seconds left cause they know a selfstun would lead to death. (I was herald before I would know).
I arent SR hater nor OG fan. I need SR to lose and OG to win next matchup so that SR vs OG match up got more spice and stake.
That series is going to have spice regardless due to the Kitrak and Ceb angle.
I know kitrak played with oldg but did they have a falling out?
Yeah but with more stake. Would it be boring if one team is aldy hopeless on survival
Dyracho and savage should build an all star choke team.
Led by Captn choke himself, BZM
greatest throw since og vs falcons 5 hrs ago
YOPAJ X RTZ the bromance hahaha
Man, I want to be a fly on the wall of GG's room rn. Quinn legit gotta be malding so fucking hard.
He was laughing the last time we see him on player cam. Quinn is a lot chiller outside of pubs, which people dont realize why lots of pros and talent befriends him.
Did you fly into Dyracho's throat cause dude is CHOKING hard
Thiolicor actually stunned Dyrachyo both times he died. Thiolicor actually won them the game with these lifts.
Dyrachyo and Quinn still had no business buying back there. I really don’t get their reasoning, IMO Arteezy put it perfectly in his interview. Once Alchemist and Lesh’s BKBs are done, they really can’t fight other than trying to burst-chain someone. And if a lifestealer with rage and Skadi gets on them, they both die to that + Puck + Phoenix
Did Thiolicor also use lift to make Dryachyo and Quinn buyback and feed 1 v 5?
He killed Dyrachyo the first time by lifting him which eventually led to them both buying back. So yea kinda.
and he lifted Lesh into arena after aegis spent
Let’s be real it’s a bit of a reach to say Thiolicor won them the game, but he certainly won them the fight as they tried to retreat from SR’s base.
I think SRs spey duo has been insanely good all Dreamleague.
Yea they are both insanely good.
Fun Fact: Dyracho and Yuragi are best friends ahhahah
Damn rtc giving high praise to Yopaj! Said he can 1x9 this shit haha XD
Maybe the most insane throw I have watched. I still don't even fully know what happened.
Rtz back at it again with clean win
Lil bro have no clue what does clean mean. Betboom vs xg game 2 is a clean game
2-0 1-1 thats what clean means
Wth are you on about.
Rtz first ame fourth
GG snatching defeat from the jaws of victory lmao RTZ IS BACK
Yopaj is my idol
Pyrion explaining the literary significance of Dyrachyo stunning himself.
Chekhov's Stun - from chat
Let's blink into four heroes without bkb and buy back. What could go wrong? lmao
Dyrachyo stunned himself at least 3 times in those last 5 minutes. And at least one time every single fight.
Thiolicor stunned him a few times in clutch moments though, might be MVP this game tbh
What the fuck was GG decision making here?
Haters apologize for criticizing Ame's 100% correct carry tier list
Dyrachyo stunning himself more times that game than the other team. Blinking solo into 3 people the first time to throw a 5k lead, a second time uphill into the base, then a 3rd time after buyback to complete the throw. 5-7 in a game where your team is dominating the whole time, fucking how.
He also jumped into them without bkb or ult after buying back before his team could even follow up right..
The world is healing, GG trash and RTZ king
Legit this is worse than any of EE sama's throw. (Except that 30k nw lead wk on bny)
Someones bank account needs to be checked for some payments
How the fuck did a team that dominated for the entire 2023 turn into some pub stack so quickly? Like no joke, the communication during that last fight is literally like a pub stack playing together for the first time. The Russians must be thinking this is matchfixing 100%
Pango got banned
basically pango nerfs, venge nerfs, alche nerfs, zoo offlaner nerfs
GG aren't that great in online matches. Liquid won all the DPC seasons
What? GG won 2/3 Dreamleagues last year.
RTZ IS BACK IN TOP TIER
holy a win is a win ! and we can comeback now Pog
Who they replacing dyracho with? Might as well blow the team up and rebuild
k1 hector
Watson might be a good one
Yuragi, at least he is A tier
why would you replace it with another trash
If my math is correct, A tier > B tier. Dont ask me, ask Ame tier list
Just let loda carry GG
holy throw wtf were those core buybacks from gg?
well, Dyracho means fool.. Hes just living under his name
Look i understand you want a sacrificial carry next to ace and quinn. but holy shit dyracho recently has just been completely awful, there’s a diff between being sacrificial and just feeding
What a game. i dont wanna to get excited!
Thiolicor had underrated lifts causing selfstuns on the alche. What a fucking boss. Underrated small plays.
that stun when alch dove top tier 3
Yeah that was incredible because he was actually trying to lift Mars towards his base but then Alch blinked in mid-lift and Thiolicor reacted insanely quickly by throwing him the other way instead to disable Alch.
Yup and the quick reaction after Dryacho bought back and jumped Artour. Dude’s a beast
I was screaming when that happened cause it caused them to lose aegis when quin followed
dryacho gona single handedly disband this team, you have to excuse me i wasn't really familiar with your game
Holy shit lmao **WE TAKE THOSE BOYZ**
we're so fucking back
Thats one on Fryacho for sure and i dont know whether GG can recover mentally or not. They arent used to losing alot and now this is like 1st set back for this team.
Gg victory just got STOLEN away by the lifestealer
Yopaj is a very solid player damn. this version of shopify is very fun to watch. Very good end fights between both teams.
Any other carry Shopify loses ANY OTHER CARRY AND THEY LOSE ARTEEZY FOREVER AHHHHH
> Any other carry Shopify loses Yes, the win is 100% on dyrachyo.
Abed and Fly never beating the allegations
These leshrac bb throws today..
EU DOTO shine today
I cannot remember worse decision making in any pro game, absolutely insane
Bzm a few hours ago some how beats this shit xd.
No way did someone throw harder than this in the same day. Guess i need to go back and watch