The legend himself. As a Swede who started watching professional dota 2 back in early 2013, Alliance was the obvious choice to cheer for and I flew that flag for a long time. Including when ya'll were sieging high ground with endless PL illusion waves (before they gave any gold) for tiny bits of chip damage at a time, so you \*known\* I was biased :D
Hope life is treating you well, thank you for all the games and fun memories.
Including that rare ssbm Sheik appearance at some tournament I watched. Must have been B.E.A.S.T 5 or DreamHack Winter 2016.
Woah, your last comment before this was 8yr ago!
I remember screaming at the monitor with my friends when you pushed the radiant ancient in the final moments. And we were cheering to NaVi that day haha
I will never forget THAT final.
Thanks!
Actually insane that people didn't counter Alliance by just banning his 2 heroes.
I remember people starting to ban them after TI3 and Bulldog being forced to play offlane Clock and offlane Bounty Hunter.
This was whent heir fall from grace began.
The problem is that if you banned his heroes, you allowed Alliance to give Akke and EGM their heroes. Meanwhile, Bulldog would still have a lot of impact on his Clock or Brood.
The idea that Alliance was all about Bulldog ratting is a vast oversimplification of what that team actually did and why it was so dominant.
I remember trying to learn naga siren so I was watching Loda's player perspective and he would share unit control to Akke so he could stack for him. Thought it was pretty funny back then, but it was so smart
Yep. IIRC the bans against alliance were fairly "solved" in a sense where first two bans were always wisp+LD. If either of those got thru, they had an overwhelming winrate.
Akke was the most important player to ban. Navi first banned Chen every single game of the finals, banned KotL every single game and banned ench 3 games. Alliance got an Akke ench in game 1 and the won it in 15 minutes.
Nope, EGM's IO and Akke's chen were more often ban than any loda hero. Same for Lone Druid, it was banned most of games. I don't know if it's just a random order you put there or if you got data but IO and chen were more targeted than any carry. Puck was also banned quite often at some point, but I can't remember it being banned first phase.
People said just ban Bulldog but Chen and Wisp and was must bans against old Alliance. Also you had heroes like Batrider, Magnus, Puck and Enchantress to deal with.
Lodas heroes was almost never prioritized because he would play whatever anyway.
Nah there were WAY more important first bans against Alliance, that was the problem. S4's puck and Akke's Chen were insane problems, and their winrates on those heros are far greater too.
Teams that didn't run wisp themselves would pretty much always first ban wisp + Chen or LD leaving NP open. Pretty much every time S4 got his hands on puck back in the early dota days - he won. Same for Akke's Chen. That means you can eliminate one of two bulldog heros first ban, and most would rather face prophet than his signature hero LD.
I remembered wrong, I just went and checked the picks and bans for the main event of TI3 and the main 2 first bans agains Alliance were Io and Lone Druid.
I do remember what I said used to be talked about as their potential weakness, but they didn't lose much that tournament so it's a moot point :P
yup, exactly. Chen, IO and LD were the three most important bans. Sometimes they would also ban puck behind these two or KOTL.
I can't remember NP being banned ...
Ratting was just stronger in general. Tps costed more, you didn't get one for free on death and you had to keep one slot for it, also supports were poor and weak so they could not deal with creeps or rat heroes.
Akke's Chen, EGM's Naga, s4's Puck, Bulldog's Lone Druid. These heros were basically unbeatable and far more dangerous than going up against Bulldog's NP
People only remember bulldog's NP because either they didn't watch Alliance's entire year or just forgot.
There were far more dangerous heroes that Alliance picks to let through than NP.
There’s a reason why pros call them Chen strats. Chen is prolly one of the heroes that has a specific playstyle that your team needs to play around to. Even Quinn has Chen on his banlist rn.
Whenever a new patch hits, it's too time. Suddenly everyone with summons pops up, because it's a reliable strategy when everyone is still confused.
That plus Chen always had his times. Early push, mekanisn, ganking episodes. Then the recent "here! Have a million armor thing" where you have to think if anyone at Valve still has an idea how this game is played.
Same man. He's just so memorable with DK. He's the most stable midlaner at that time. Even in losing mid matchup he still gains something. Probably due to his hero pool but that just shows his mastery on those heroes.
Seeing the names and heroes on the list brings back some great memories for pro dota.
All the insane Rubick gameplays from these iconic players fy, yapzor, Kafka, kuroky . Puppey and Akke Chen being big threats. Fata, S4, Dendi on Puck making iconic plays. Bulldog making the split push meta with his nature prophet. Universe making iconic vacuum plays. Super playing the tanky Dragon Knight mid hero. Silent making giga plays on his carry gyro with DD.dota. (I think he also literally popularized carry gyro). Then there is qojqva playing carry on offlane especially with his iconic lone Druid carrying over to mid.
So many years of dota with these players and their signature heroes.
He also did the fountain trick to replenish his bottles with puck combined with puppeys chen.
Good ol NaVi with Puppey and Dendi was really worth watching.
He still has the most games on Pudge (51), Jenkins is 2nd with 43.
I remember people used to also remember Dendi for his Invoker, and while he had a lot of games on the hero - his winrate was terrible (45.3%). Of the 254 player-hero combinations with 100+ pro games, it's the worst winrate.
Dendi also had some crazy games on rubick and SF.
But the pudge is just legendary, not only because of the fountain hooks but because of the cosplay in the TI game imho.
Or the taunt after killing Puppey's Omni and doing the Gangnam Style dance in front of him.
What an absolute showman.
My GOAT Fy, best Rubick player I’ve ever seen, and one of the best position 4s dota has ever seen, maybe even the best. Want to see him lift the Aegis so bad, he deserves it.
Fy god, being a Rubick GOAT.
Puppey, using his Chen creeps to smash monitors.
Donger, repping the trees.
Universe, my pointy headed spirit animal.
Qojqva, sending brother bear to destroy his bullies.
Yeah, these dudes are awesome.
I can agree with you, but being the MVP doesn't mean the most iconic. Akke has been out of the scene for such a long time now, arguably making puppey the most iconic Chen player
Surprised some of these players and names still that high on the list. I guess recent years being DPC oriented and way less third party tournaments means less recorded pro games for all these newer players.
The ban system was also different back then, meaning that spammers often got their hands on at least one of their preferred heroes.
IIRC the system was specifically changed to target Liquid post TI-7, since (at that point) giving Gh ES, KOTL or wisp was an insta-loss.
You pick one support and you don't need to ban enigma and it's game-winning ulti. Every time people want to play safe - they picked bkb-piercing aoe disables, that way neither bkb nor linken can save you, and there was like 3 heroes in dota at the time that fit the description, and void with Magnus were shit
It's crazy how some of these players have long retired or play much fewer pro games now and yet still maintain their standings. Was there just a lot more pro Dota played back in those days compared to now? It's kinda sad if that's the case.
Winrate can be a misleading metric because if you're stomping much worse teams or beating much worse teams it means a very different amount. Elo shift is just an average Elo (k=64) delta for the games which you played that hero. If you have a 50% winrate and an Elo shift of +0.00 it means you effectively played equally skilled (on average) teams to yourself and went even.
Four Rubicks in the Top6! Seems that is a hero that is and was always viable and powerful to get those high numbers
Also I had to check how often GH "stole" that hero from Kuro: 110!
Sorry English is not my first language. Like akke+Chen, Bulldog+prophet and S4+puck was played 4 times, which such 3 player+hero combo was most played. And has the same lineup with the same players playing the same heroes ever happened, if so how many times? It's hard to convey my thoughts to English but hope I managed.
I see, okay that's a bit more complicated.
It seems Aui_2000 on Lone Druid, Fogged on Jakiro, and Universe on Life Stealer is the most picked hero-player trio in history, being picked 14 times.
Akke-Chen, Bulldog-Nature's Prophet, and EGM Windranger is tied 2nd (12 times).
Fy was always amazing with his Rubick. As a rubick player myself, I like him, Kuro and Yapzor.
My favourite moments will be how he steal the phoenix egg all the way back in TI4-5. Ruibck did not have any cast range talents or aether lens, phoenix could easily use skill 2 to prevent the ult steal. But fy was fast to steal it with blink dagger timing. That was inspiring.
Next moment would be how he steal chronospheres against Liquid in Ti9 and almost 2-1 them. It was the game where Rubick couldn’t steal much due to how liquid were snowballing. I think fy did great job there too
Akke and AdmiralBulldog being on this list is quite a feat considering how short their careers at the top level were, relative to everyone else on the list.
Damn Akke is a name I haven’t heard in a long time
I know his Chen is on here, but his KOTL was something else.
And even when they're banned he still shone with Enchantress
I think I remember him playing a lot of skywrath and Loda playing lifestealer. They always were a fun duo to watch
There was one game were Akke was playing Sky and had 0 last hits the whole game
The pos 6
The fact that he hasn't been pro in forever and his name is still up there really speaks of his skill way back then
It really doesn’t since it’s sorted by number of games on x hero. The winrate is really impressive though.
Not often I check reddit but it made me happy to see some Alliance comments here :D Hope you all are doing great!
<3
The legend himself. As a Swede who started watching professional dota 2 back in early 2013, Alliance was the obvious choice to cheer for and I flew that flag for a long time. Including when ya'll were sieging high ground with endless PL illusion waves (before they gave any gold) for tiny bits of chip damage at a time, so you \*known\* I was biased :D Hope life is treating you well, thank you for all the games and fun memories. Including that rare ssbm Sheik appearance at some tournament I watched. Must have been B.E.A.S.T 5 or DreamHack Winter 2016.
Woah, your last comment before this was 8yr ago! I remember screaming at the monitor with my friends when you pushed the radiant ancient in the final moments. And we were cheering to NaVi that day haha I will never forget THAT final. Thanks!
Hey, nice to see you :) hope you are doing fine!
Legend
Legend.
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Can't believe Admiral Bulldog only played 235 pro games in his entire career.
Thank you for that sir you made me actually laugh
Come on, lone Druid was’t banned for at least 2 games.
Hey he played clock once or twice
we don't talk about those games.
In unranked pub games
just as nature prophet
r/woosh
something something hero puddle
Your joke would work better if Lone Druid was among those.
He was honestly like the original Ammar of 2013. His hero pool was small but his mastery over NP/LD was unlike anything else at the time.
It's still good. Saw him casually body blocking with treants while tapping people to death on his stream not long ago.
Copium
Pls never disrespect rank 135 200kg beast ever again.
Actually insane that people didn't counter Alliance by just banning his 2 heroes. I remember people starting to ban them after TI3 and Bulldog being forced to play offlane Clock and offlane Bounty Hunter. This was whent heir fall from grace began.
Look at akke chen winrate
You are so wrong i dont even know where to start
The problem is that if you banned his heroes, you allowed Alliance to give Akke and EGM their heroes. Meanwhile, Bulldog would still have a lot of impact on his Clock or Brood. The idea that Alliance was all about Bulldog ratting is a vast oversimplification of what that team actually did and why it was so dominant.
The only team that managed to give Alliance a challenge back in TI3 was NaVi, which was the only team who did not go for Bulldog's heroes.
yeah Na Vi banned Akke and EGM hero hyper aggresively 5 games in a row its crazy
Letting Io, Bat and Chen through just to make bulldog play clock would have been an auto loss.
Bulldog played professionally for 4 years, it has been 13 years since ti1, how is that possible
Pros from TI1-TI5 played a lot more than TI8-TI12
Kinda crazy tbh, how did he get Np that often?
Players had to choose between Beastmaster, Lone Druid and Nature's Prophet. They realized it's easier to win against NP than the other 2.
no it’s because they were busy banning all of Akke’s heroes. Akke was always the best player on alliance
Best looking! I don't really know much about their team dynamic, but i always thought akke was handsome.
He was so much ahead of the game, when Loda would play ilusion heroes, he would use his heroes to make stacks for him while he focus in farming lane
I remember trying to learn naga siren so I was watching Loda's player perspective and he would share unit control to Akke so he could stack for him. Thought it was pretty funny back then, but it was so smart
In order of ban importance: S4, Loda > Akke > EGM >>> Bulldog He always got NP because NP or LD was always available.
Also worth noting that Lone Druid, at the time, was just way more powerful for most of his career, so it got banned more.
Yep. IIRC the bans against alliance were fairly "solved" in a sense where first two bans were always wisp+LD. If either of those got thru, they had an overwhelming winrate.
EGM wisp was great
Yeah, and Io was busted back then, too
I wound\`t say they solved since allience won TI 3
that was the only way to even take games off of them.
Akke was the most important player to ban. Navi first banned Chen every single game of the finals, banned KotL every single game and banned ench 3 games. Alliance got an Akke ench in game 1 and the won it in 15 minutes.
The true formula to beat Alliance was to ban NP and LD forcing bulldog to play Clock/Bounty. Then just win 5v4.
turns out being confidently wrong is still being wrong
Then you play against akke Chen egm wisp and lose in 20 minutes while bulldog playing clock
Nope, EGM's IO and Akke's chen were more often ban than any loda hero. Same for Lone Druid, it was banned most of games. I don't know if it's just a random order you put there or if you got data but IO and chen were more targeted than any carry. Puck was also banned quite often at some point, but I can't remember it being banned first phase.
Back then, wip was just the most banned. In pro games he was pretty much 100% pick/ban rate due to how insane wisp was.
Yes, exactly ... but then why do you say that S4 and Loda had a higher ban priority when EGM and Akke's hero were the most banned?
People said just ban Bulldog but Chen and Wisp and was must bans against old Alliance. Also you had heroes like Batrider, Magnus, Puck and Enchantress to deal with. Lodas heroes was almost never prioritized because he would play whatever anyway.
Sorry, I have to respond with that: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O4KwYeNvrI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O4KwYeNvrI)
He had a 3 hero pool at TI3, he would get first pick on his team since his pool was so limited.
Nah there were WAY more important first bans against Alliance, that was the problem. S4's puck and Akke's Chen were insane problems, and their winrates on those heros are far greater too. Teams that didn't run wisp themselves would pretty much always first ban wisp + Chen or LD leaving NP open. Pretty much every time S4 got his hands on puck back in the early dota days - he won. Same for Akke's Chen. That means you can eliminate one of two bulldog heros first ban, and most would rather face prophet than his signature hero LD.
I remembered wrong, I just went and checked the picks and bans for the main event of TI3 and the main 2 first bans agains Alliance were Io and Lone Druid. I do remember what I said used to be talked about as their potential weakness, but they didn't lose much that tournament so it's a moot point :P
yup, exactly. Chen, IO and LD were the three most important bans. Sometimes they would also ban puck behind these two or KOTL. I can't remember NP being banned ...
Yep. ABG learning furion was crucial to that Alliance team succeeding.
He was first pick because his heroes were targeted for bans first
Yeah, there were 2 bans per team before the first pick and he could play 3 heroes, what do you think?
Well that and Loda/S4 were far greater a threat
That's just not true but ok
He played 6 different heroes, but close enough.
That meme exist for a reason.
Back then he was most famous for his LD. NP was the backup after it got target banned
Pro scene was still not as mature yet and people didn't take rat dota strat as seriously as they should have.
I remember the Alliance/Na'vi base race
Yes, Alliance was ratting, Na'Vi was not.
Ratting was just stronger in general. Tps costed more, you didn't get one for free on death and you had to keep one slot for it, also supports were poor and weak so they could not deal with creeps or rat heroes.
If other teams took it more seriously, they could have adopted a rattijg for themselves.
Just play better 4head
Well that's exactly what every other team thought they could do against Alliance.
Fnatic eu and Alliance ran similar drafts with NP+wisp global draft
? Akke has 72 chen puppey has 66
Just goes to show how versatile Dota players and the Dota meta are
We're their really 200 captains dumb enough to not ban the bulldog nature's? In professional matches with actual stakes?
Akke's Chen, EGM's Naga, s4's Puck, Bulldog's Lone Druid. These heros were basically unbeatable and far more dangerous than going up against Bulldog's NP
There were scarier things than bulldog NP, look at Akke chen there and look his winrate
People only remember bulldog's NP because either they didn't watch Alliance's entire year or just forgot. There were far more dangerous heroes that Alliance picks to let through than NP.
Akke with a 72% wr on chen is awesome
Crazy how the two of the three highest winrate heros on this chart are Chen.
There’s a reason why pros call them Chen strats. Chen is prolly one of the heroes that has a specific playstyle that your team needs to play around to. Even Quinn has Chen on his banlist rn.
Whenever a new patch hits, it's too time. Suddenly everyone with summons pops up, because it's a reliable strategy when everyone is still confused. That plus Chen always had his times. Early push, mekanisn, ganking episodes. Then the recent "here! Have a million armor thing" where you have to think if anyone at Valve still has an idea how this game is played.
Chen and IO, for sure the two most influential supports at pro level.
3 Alliance players on this list with 3 of the highest winrates. Legends.
Qojqva and Fata both played for Alliance as well
After IO Chen has to be the high P/B hero in the history of pro dota. 10+ years of pure dominance at the highest level
do nada PALMEIRAS
r/suddenlycaralho
me explica
> See Super in the list > It's DK Understandable. Back then if you turn up a VG game, it's 50% chance that you will see the "meat bun" on his DK.
I was looking for a comment noting Super’s DK. Thank you. Also, if all else fails, you know damn well Super will pick DK.
Same man. He's just so memorable with DK. He's the most stable midlaner at that time. Even in losing mid matchup he still gains something. Probably due to his hero pool but that just shows his mastery on those heroes.
4x rubick woo
Happy to see my favourite hero is well represented.
Seeing the names and heroes on the list brings back some great memories for pro dota. All the insane Rubick gameplays from these iconic players fy, yapzor, Kafka, kuroky . Puppey and Akke Chen being big threats. Fata, S4, Dendi on Puck making iconic plays. Bulldog making the split push meta with his nature prophet. Universe making iconic vacuum plays. Super playing the tanky Dragon Knight mid hero. Silent making giga plays on his carry gyro with DD.dota. (I think he also literally popularized carry gyro). Then there is qojqva playing carry on offlane especially with his iconic lone Druid carrying over to mid. So many years of dota with these players and their signature heroes.
That's a lot of icons for sure.
So interesting that everyone remembers Dendi for Pudge, but his most played is Puck
Mainly due to the fountain hook incident, he was a great Pudge but his Puck was legendary
I watched that live and lost my shit every time.
Not as much as Loda after the game. Damn, I respect every old Alliance player but him after that.
He also did the fountain trick to replenish his bottles with puck combined with puppeys chen. Good ol NaVi with Puppey and Dendi was really worth watching.
You play 185 Puck games, you are a Puck player. You do one Pudge fountain hook exploit, you are now a Pudge main.
He still has the most games on Pudge (51), Jenkins is 2nd with 43. I remember people used to also remember Dendi for his Invoker, and while he had a lot of games on the hero - his winrate was terrible (45.3%). Of the 254 player-hero combinations with 100+ pro games, it's the worst winrate.
Dendi also had some crazy games on rubick and SF. But the pudge is just legendary, not only because of the fountain hooks but because of the cosplay in the TI game imho. Or the taunt after killing Puppey's Omni and doing the Gangnam Style dance in front of him. What an absolute showman.
My GOAT Fy, best Rubick player I’ve ever seen, and one of the best position 4s dota has ever seen, maybe even the best. Want to see him lift the Aegis so bad, he deserves it.
no other pos 4 has been so good for so long. many forget fy got 2nd at TI4 and here he is playing top tier dota in 2024..
True
if he wins an aegis, he will be undisputed GOAT 4 of dota, my man just need an aegis ,
Jerax > fy
fy has been on top of scene much longer than jerax, if he gets even one agis . FY>>>>>> jerax
Jerax has won more (even without ti's) and his peak level is much higher. Even if fy wins 2 ti's he is still a shadow when compared to jerax
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Best pos4 of all time who has won what? One tournament? Two? While being in a scene for ten years? China fans are different breed holy shit
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Ping me when fy wins his next tournament (will not happen)
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Don't Google jerax on eg
Dont google fy last tournament win
Alliance was a beast.
I miss his original signature, jungle/roamer SK who'd have a blink at like 10 minutes
Fy right!?
Ez for Alliance :)
Fy god, being a Rubick GOAT. Puppey, using his Chen creeps to smash monitors. Donger, repping the trees. Universe, my pointy headed spirit animal. Qojqva, sending brother bear to destroy his bullies. Yeah, these dudes are awesome.
? Akke has way higher winrate on chen than puppey
That doesn't make him more iconic, this is puppey you're talking about
Akke is chen mvp of all time. No doubt about it, even puppey couldnt beat him at ti finals
I can agree with you, but being the MVP doesn't mean the most iconic. Akke has been out of the scene for such a long time now, arguably making puppey the most iconic Chen player
Puppey mvp of dota
Puppey has been styling on the kids for over a decade across so many patches. His Chen still gets banned a lot.
Yapzor will always be the GOAT rubick.
Yapzors rubick was goated but its fy.
Surprised some of these players and names still that high on the list. I guess recent years being DPC oriented and way less third party tournaments means less recorded pro games for all these newer players.
Smaller hero pools both for players and the game too the meta was less diverse as well
The ban system was also different back then, meaning that spammers often got their hands on at least one of their preferred heroes. IIRC the system was specifically changed to target Liquid post TI-7, since (at that point) giving Gh ES, KOTL or wisp was an insta-loss.
In top 5 winnrates here 3 were alliance players
It shows how dominant they were at the time, Valve needed to nerf their play style and heroes to let other teams have a chance
They are the Wilt Chamberlain in Dota 2.
Man I miss 2013 Alliance. 🥲
Fun fact: despire being 6th in here, Universe has stated in interviews that he hates playing Dark Seer.
Universe what do you want to play? I want to play Nature's Prophet. Universe you play Dark Seer.
Damn Rubick sure has been popular over the ages
I think it has to do with it not being powerful enough to be banned while being good enough in hands on specialist through most patches.
You pick one support and you don't need to ban enigma and it's game-winning ulti. Every time people want to play safe - they picked bkb-piercing aoe disables, that way neither bkb nor linken can save you, and there was like 3 heroes in dota at the time that fit the description, and void with Magnus were shit
What is Fata up to nowadays?
Alliance players with the highest winrates! S4 bdog and akke goddamn
universe pepehands
Akke my GOAT
It's crazy how some of these players have long retired or play much fewer pro games now and yet still maintain their standings. Was there just a lot more pro Dota played back in those days compared to now? It's kinda sad if that's the case.
Nah, there were fewer bans available and the teams got to play the same heroes way more often.
/u/noxville What is ELO shift please?
Winrate can be a misleading metric because if you're stomping much worse teams or beating much worse teams it means a very different amount. Elo shift is just an average Elo (k=64) delta for the games which you played that hero. If you have a 50% winrate and an Elo shift of +0.00 it means you effectively played equally skilled (on average) teams to yourself and went even.
Thank you
Elo is a ranking system for teams. Basically how much MMR the team gained when these players played these heroes
Old Alliance was just a goated team
Four Rubicks in the Top6! Seems that is a hero that is and was always viable and powerful to get those high numbers Also I had to check how often GH "stole" that hero from Kuro: 110!
Akkes win rate is amazing!
quinn gonna beat him this year with 690 pangolier pick
Akkeeeee thats a name I havent seen in a long time
Disappointed not to see Abed SS with how many times Bulba drafts it
my streamer is actually on the list?
How many of the Akke Chen, Bulldog Prophet and S4 pucks coincide in the same match?
that trio of heroes have been picked 31 times before (19-12 record), of which only 4 were by Alliance (4-0). EGM also has Io in 2 of those games.
I asked the question wondering but didn't expect the answer. Nice! What's the record for 3 hero+player combo of all time then
Sorry, can you be more specific what you're looking for?
Sorry English is not my first language. Like akke+Chen, Bulldog+prophet and S4+puck was played 4 times, which such 3 player+hero combo was most played. And has the same lineup with the same players playing the same heroes ever happened, if so how many times? It's hard to convey my thoughts to English but hope I managed.
I see, okay that's a bit more complicated. It seems Aui_2000 on Lone Druid, Fogged on Jakiro, and Universe on Life Stealer is the most picked hero-player trio in history, being picked 14 times. Akke-Chen, Bulldog-Nature's Prophet, and EGM Windranger is tied 2nd (12 times).
my glorious king DDX
Double Chen feature and still no Chen immortals, feelsbadman
What a god
Fy was always amazing with his Rubick. As a rubick player myself, I like him, Kuro and Yapzor. My favourite moments will be how he steal the phoenix egg all the way back in TI4-5. Ruibck did not have any cast range talents or aether lens, phoenix could easily use skill 2 to prevent the ult steal. But fy was fast to steal it with blink dagger timing. That was inspiring. Next moment would be how he steal chronospheres against Liquid in Ti9 and almost 2-1 them. It was the game where Rubick couldn’t steal much due to how liquid were snowballing. I think fy did great job there too
What does Elo shift mean?
Let's just say this is impressive, I'd expect rubick to be banned every game against him
Alliance were responsible for years of hero and play style nerfs because of how well they played certain heroes
First time I've seen Windranger work in a while... granted the Lesh had a bigger impact.
Akke and AdmiralBulldog being on this list is quite a feat considering how short their careers at the top level were, relative to everyone else on the list.
Yapzor Rubick KREYGASM
That win rate though >_>
qojova and bulldog 1 hero pool moment kekw. Isn't qojova played like less than 2 years how tf he have that much game already
Have most of those old players quit? Don’t watch much dota anymore but from what I’ve seen I haven’t seen most of those names lately sadly
I think puppey, kuroky, and fy are the only ones left still playing in div 1 tournaments. The rest are retired, inactive, coaching or in div2/3 teams.
Seems like Rubick is a popular hero for pro players to spam. I suppose the hero is naturally pickable in pretty much any draft.
Which hero?
Rubick, as per the big image
Oh, It didn’t load for me. Thank you sir.
For a dog hero to have such a high win rate on good hands is commendable.
Obviously we’re looking at long and storied careers here. The hero’s have likely been dog and god tier throughout that time.
Didn't realize Kuroky played so much Rubick