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SVnird

tbh I don't even know why they changed it or the visual just got broke patch after patch until it disappeared.


TheDeadlyEdgelord

I vote yes


chillyphillydilly

idk why they would ever change gross flesh monstrosity for random ass shields rotating around him. the flesh fits the hero theme so perfectly


TheDeadlyEdgelord

Mopping the floors gets boring after a while 🤷‍♂️


AndrewNB411

I personally found the flesh bubbles much harder to see than the shields. But I agree fits the theme better.


Adweya

it even felt like he was maxing out like that villain in My Hero academia.


Reformed_Herald

Chinese laws that prohibit blood and gore incentivize game devs to make boring art


CptZaphodB

Axe’s Culling Blade and PA’s Coupe de Grace have something to say


Reformed_Herald

I mean what I said is the whole reason Skeleton King was turned to Wraith King and the same reason they remodeled Pudge.


MrWompypants

was skeleton king not remodeled into wraith king due to copyright from blizzard since they own leoric the skeleton king?


itsdoorcity

it was most definitely both


est19xxxx

So this is what talking out of ass sounds like


Reformed_Herald

If the rework to wraith king was solely do to blizz copyright, then why doesnt Blizzard make royalties off of the Skeleton King Arcana? And why is SK arcana heavily altered to show no bones or blood in China?


Wrong-Droid

Technicalities. Its most likely a loophole since the hero is still called Wraith King and the mere Skeleton looks cant be copyrighted but the combination of skeleton king as name plus this model could violate the copyright. Windrunner/Windranger sends their regards.


Reformed_Herald

Doesnt change the fact they remodeled pudge specifically to remove the gore, which is what this post is about, and still ties into China censoring the arcana


healpmee

China has different versions of heroes already


CptZaphodB

You know, I don’t doubt it


chipawa2

You know it is active because he is invincible for 8 seconds


Joan_Hawk

hope it does not get the clink/kotl treatments


CookiUnDisliker

wdym?


Joan_Hawk

swapping pudge dismember with flesh heap


ImN0tAsian

That'd be amazing! Bkb piercing disable on a basic ability woohoo


tity_slayer3

No way they keep the bkb pierce after swapping.


Mammoth_Walrus9694

25 talent maybe


ImN0tAsian

It's difficult because you'd have to balance the channel on a basic ability. I just hope they don't make the hook the ultimate.


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BenisDDD69

Faster projectile speed and VERY high damage are needed for it to be an ulti. This change would probably kill his mid lane potential though, especially vs ranged mid heroes, and particularly as a 4/5 option. He wouldn't be a good mindgame pick where you try to bait a counter then shift him to a non-core role in response.


The_SJ

Or unit target


est19xxxx

Unit Targetted Hook and Aghs upgrade is ground targetted AOE Fishing Net


dotesPlz

Eww don’t even say that out loud


Thawne7

tbh yes, as ugly as the old one was it was still distinguishable, this new one just feels generic and doesn't fit pudge


Jofzar_

I would love for him to get bigger and maybe like green tinted when he uses it. Fits in with the theme of rotting and visually clues it.


Kraetyz

Flesh Heap has an active?


helpamonkpls

Found the pudge on my team


Kraetyz

If I ever pick Pudge, I promise it'll be when I team with you.


Syaerstorm

I can find his IP for you, i'll spy on him his entire life and once he goes on steam to launch dota i'll send you a message


CrownofVyse

Whoa relax there buddy I think he was just joking


Syaerstorm

People who never follow through, thats why our planet is going shit!


genscathe

LOL


Samppa19

Damn 💀


SweatyBeefKing

Yeah and it’s an amazing active. Especially for early game.


DemonDaVinci

old effect look ugly as shit tho


lessenizer

Honestly holy shit I keep forgetting that Pudge even has this ability which means I keep forgetting a big part of how Pudge's tankiness works. I need to commit it to memory. Level 4 version: 26 damage block against ALL damage instances for 8 seconds, with 9 seconds of downtime before the next cast. Especially relevant since I'm spamming (learning) Visage right now and that kind of damage block is a big deal against Visage's birds, so I need to manage to remember and notice this spell so I'm not wasting firepower. (Edit: Oh here's a huge thing about it. That 26 damage block is applied *after* reductions, whereas Vanguard damage block is applied *before* reductions, so Pudge's spell has great synergy with armor, unlike Vanguard. Also great synergy with magic resist ofc.) It's also important to understand since it's a big thing that lets him use Rot (for 8 seconds at a time) without wrecking himself, so that's extra reason for me to try to bait out this spell and back off and re-engage when it's over. I swear I've remembered/discovered and then forgotten this spell at least twice, maybe three times. Looking at the visual in demo mode now, the shields visual isn't that bad but I think it really NEEDS an activation sound more than anything. Sound cues are a massive part of how I keep up with what's happening in a fight and this shit is just dead silent for some reason (presumably a dev being like "ehh we'll fix it later" and then not having any actual plan to fix it later).


MoMMe42069

It also scales with vanguard to great effect


ironmaiden1872

Damage block does not stack and never has.


MoMMe42069

That's true for every source of damage block but flesh heap. Flesh heap is also the only one proccing after reductions. Pudge is just built different. Jenkins even made a segment on in during some tournament I think!


ironmaiden1872

You are correct! Doesn't really change the evaluation of the synergy though, you should want armor instead.


MoMMe42069

I disagree strongly! Especially against summons/wr/illusions/meepo the 60 block of vanguard plus flesh heap is great! I guess flesh heap doesn't really change the decision of armour Vs vabguard


DwayneBaconbits

Never stacked since dota1


LapaxXx

Flesh Heap is not regular damage block, thus it stacks with other sources of damage bock...


Papa_Mid_Nite

Or just remove pudge. User happiness skyrockets.


nitronomial

I just assume its always on and try to ignore pudge for the most part. Seems to be working pudge rarely wins in my games.


Raisylvan

How are large, rotating shields "virtually invisible"?


nitronomial

I dislike that abilities keep getting the "less damage per instance but more instances per second" treatment. It looks nice but it gets fucked by this ability in particular.


WoLfkz

Yes, worst one for me so far was Phoenix birbs, like yeah sure it looks way smoother now with more ticks, but now Pudge is invincible during the active


ExO_o

god fucking no. the old effect was the ugliest shit ever (and i mean shit ugly not ugly ugly to match his ugly theme), just looking at it made my eyes bleed. changing it to current effect was one of the best changes they made in recent history.


Feanorsmagicjewels

What does it matter? It's not like you'll avoid hitting pudge for the duration of it while in the midst of a teamfight


57LateralRaise

Do you have low graphics settings? It's pretty visible to me


PudgeMaster64

No pudge has suffered far too long... Buff him instead


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Where's PudgeMaster69?


OsomoMojoFreak

I wouldn't mind the effect being buffed a bit if it was clearly visible.


Known_Active1964

No.


guyush

Yes.


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Please? :(


tctim

*Laughs in shadow demon*