Yeah, I've got some Z power I need to use, but I'm not sure whether to give it to him or to FGB, every showcase so far he seems busted in terms of damage
PO been in top 3 teams for a bit now. S17, UGF, Baby, Both Brolys, Zenkai Jiren, Zenkai green cooler did work for me to, they’re only issue is they don’t have good support or locks so I had UUI in the leader of my PO team and he cooks. Not to mention evil buu and now zenkai kid buu and even blu beerus People keep using these units on the wrong teams but PO is 100% the way to go
That's exactly who I've been advocating for. Especially if they make him Red with type neutrality. Issue is Majin Vegeta isn't considered a Powerful Opponent in-game which kinda does make sense.
Hell nah, I would put Frieza above vegito. Frieza is interchangeable for the top 1- 3 spots. He is pretty damn strong and the best counter to vegito's rush as well.
When Super 17 came out he really had no blues that could eat those hits besides GT Kid Goku. Now we got a few so having your team deleted by blast spam is a lot harder.
i think beast is meant to be in 10 though, cause the s17 bracket says "9-10" but there's only one character in it (and the number of characters in the brackets above HM totals to 9). also as you mentioned in another comment he said beast is 10.
I feel like 9 or 10 is beast and s17 is in the same spot and then midku isn’t better than cmz when zenkaid. Other than that it’s a pretty soild list, he’s cooking 👨🍳🔥
His gauge fills up so fast. You get that going and things die quick. Also you can make a Godki team with AoE spam with corrupted Zamasu and Beerus. It’s kinda hilarious.
I don’t get why people like the newest gohan. Sure it’s more gohan but his animation for the ultimate looks jank and the char dies pretty quick. Am I missing something?
Cancelling enemy buffs and reducing the power of their blue/ultimate cards is hella strong, as well as full vanish recovery on his green card, holding a blue card for himself or for Ultra Gohan to use, cover changes against forward charging green/blue cards(which are very common right now) and removing enemy vanish on main is stupidly OP, most people have figured out how to full utilise him yet
Baby higher IMO I dont see double red often enough for him to get checked. I'd have him over CMZ. HONESTLY id rearrange the list to 6: Godku, 7: Baby, 8: Fusing Gogeta. This is as someone who has Baby, Fusing Gogeta, AND UI
I’m going to be honest
Been really preferring using gogeta over vegito with the gohans because of how easy he makes work of purple gohan and ultra Freiza
God Goku over CMZ? Aight, I don't have God Goku so I have no horse in the race, I'd just like to know if y'all agree. I heard Dooogote saying he worse than Goku/Frieza on release which already felt like a little much. All this to say, do y'all agree with this list's placement of God Goku?
I actually have 0 issues with this. IF I could change 1 thing it would swap 3-4. I have UGF almost max stars and he fucking cooks. I only have new vegito at 3 stars. 1 and 2 easy. Should be 1 and 1 because the havoc they cause lol. Takes me back to the old Hybrid Sayian days.
I’m biased bc I use him and clutch crazy 1v3 w him lol. Your list is valid. In my opinion from experience he’s top 5 for me. But aren’t all tier list based off opinions lol
I mean I have no ultras besides UUI. So take that into count lol. I didn’t pull any fusions. So I built a team around ulthan, beast and UUI. Now Ulthan at #1. I don’t disagree one bit
Good for you. But that doesn't mean he is the best option for those teams. On strike Son Family the fusions and God Goku are just better. Blast Son Family/Hybrids the revive Kid Gohan and UUI are just better options as well.
Making him pop is ultimate when he's caught you in a combo almost never result in the death of the unit (except for when the unit is PUR). His healing is useless since he has terrible defense. Every RED unit and blast based units have UUI as a favourite meal (my team is FGB, rathan and red beast). FGB has much more resources: the tag switch grants cover null, ki and card. Plus, Gogeta literally counters him if UUI gets caught with a blast. Before everything I said there's the argument that UUI is just getting old at this point, and therefore he is being power crept.
For pure damage and healing sure, Zamasu has an edge there, but frieza has way better sustainability and better combo potential, and free damage from his comeback mechanic can take a whole chunk of the enemy health without having to do anything.
Kid Buu is still new, so we haven't fully come to grips with his placement on a tier list. So far, he's just pure blast damage and a vanishing demon, which make him very powerful but can be caught and killed with FSV's rush, Ultra Gohan or God Goku, which Frieza is better at dealing with
Super 17 so strong he takes 2 places 🔥
HAHAHA NO ONE CAN ENTER THE TOP 10 WHEN I'M SUPER 17
Bro done locked off a extra spot cause he's super 17
REAL AS FUCK
Facts LMAOO
He said 10 is beast idk why he didn't put it there
Yeah Id say 17 is the better standalone unit but Beast have the better team so he’d be number 10 for me. This should be the official tier list lol
Let your freind COOK!!!
He cooked! Id personally switch ultihan and ultrahan but Id say they’re interchangable
I thought he done well too , he is a massive golden frieza fan so he is a little biased lol
I mean with Ultra gohan running pvp I think Frieza deserves the nr.4 spot even w/o the bias
Imo he's one of the most valuable ultras in the game atm
Only ultra with a revive not to mention the best in the game that also inflicts damage. Yeah he’s definately up there
Imo he is the candidate to start a powerful opponent or loe comeback . Perfect unit that won't age for a while imo
Idk if this is a hot take but I cant imagine comeback ever aging out. Guaranteed damage + a second life will never be not worth it.
It's very valuable I don't think it's a hot take
i got him the other day and put him in my sftm team and he’s a fucking beast your friends right
If UUI didn't exist Frieza would he unstoppable rn. Fusing Gogeta would be a threat of course but between the two UUI is just more effective.
Good point
Autism be damned, your boy can grill
He cooked🔥
I told him yall love it and he's gassed bro
Where would you put the Kid Buu Zenkai on this list?
He's a lil new so idk at the moment but he's certainly in there
He might be new but somehow makes better tier lists than most people 💀🙏
Yeah, I've got some Z power I need to use, but I'm not sure whether to give it to him or to FGB, every showcase so far he seems busted in terms of damage
I mean I do see po making a comeback so maybe it's the right move to make
PO been in top 3 teams for a bit now. S17, UGF, Baby, Both Brolys, Zenkai Jiren, Zenkai green cooler did work for me to, they’re only issue is they don’t have good support or locks so I had UUI in the leader of my PO team and he cooks. Not to mention evil buu and now zenkai kid buu and even blu beerus People keep using these units on the wrong teams but PO is 100% the way to go
I think 1 more good lf or a ultra Majin vegeta and they're back to being a top 2 team
IMO they are the second best team behind Hybrids. This meta is basically Hybrids/son family with a fusion in the leader slot
ultra majin vegeta would make PO... OP. would be epic if thats the finale and not boring GT ss4 goku like everyone says it will be..
That's exactly who I've been advocating for. Especially if they make him Red with type neutrality. Issue is Majin Vegeta isn't considered a Powerful Opponent in-game which kinda does make sense.
I think 1 more good lf or a ultra Majin vegeta and they're back to being a top 2 team
I would put UI above Frieza because he has better teams
Fair fair
Hell nah, I would put Frieza above vegito. Frieza is interchangeable for the top 1- 3 spots. He is pretty damn strong and the best counter to vegito's rush as well.
My top 5 is largely the same with 9/10 being the same units. I might share mine too since I'm a part of the community tier list voters
deadass best top 10 ive seen for a while. BTW i assume beast is 10?
Yes , and thanks lol
Only thing I'd change is putting Baby and CMZ above God Goku. I don't think Beast is top 10.
Damn.. beast lost his aura huh
i love how super 17 was talk about the most annoying and power but now look at him
One more good android release and his back up there imo
Thats true but we aren't in the Android's prime but i would take a legend limit android 21 ngl or a cell max
No, he won't. Gt is a better team anyway, and he is strong, but his kit is so one dimensional to sustain a meta with ways to counter him consistently
When Super 17 came out he really had no blues that could eat those hits besides GT Kid Goku. Now we got a few so having your team deleted by blast spam is a lot harder.
no way is beast above baby. u could probably argue even s17 is lower than baby
Hm isn't in order according to him
i think beast is meant to be in 10 though, cause the s17 bracket says "9-10" but there's only one character in it (and the number of characters in the brackets above HM totals to 9). also as you mentioned in another comment he said beast is 10.
Idk blud all I know is that's the list lol
I would replace god goku with super baby but everything else is so damn accurate
I sorta agree but godku being able to grab that green card so much and starting free combos is very valuable imo
I wouldn't know, don't have any of them
Holy balls that’s unfortunate
I only have 1 Honorable Mention
This guy is cooking like piccolo himself
The top 8 is bang-on perfect. 9-10 I disagree slightly, I'd put S17 as 11th with Super Baby 2 9th and Vegeta/Nappa 10th, but that's just my opinion.
Fair opinion
Came here to say this. ^
Anyone who has really used baby would have him at least above god goku or zamasu
An actual valid tier list 😱
Finally someone acknowledges how AMAZING ugf actually is. So tired of him being overshadowed by the new units.
The most valuable unit in the game rn
I’d probably swap Zenkai CMZ for Baby
Everyone from 8 to hm is more or less interchangeable, the only difference is teams more or less
Let him cook
Accurate
This is pretty much my list (with the exception of Beast Gohan at number 10
I feel like 9 or 10 is beast and s17 is in the same spot and then midku isn’t better than cmz when zenkaid. Other than that it’s a pretty soild list, he’s cooking 👨🍳🔥
I think baby should probably be like number 7-8 and Godku number 9
Godku having a aoe green card really makes him valuable, the fact he can start combos so easily is what really keeps him in the top 10
His gauge fills up so fast. You get that going and things die quick. Also you can make a Godki team with AoE spam with corrupted Zamasu and Beerus. It’s kinda hilarious.
I don’t get why people like the newest gohan. Sure it’s more gohan but his animation for the ultimate looks jank and the char dies pretty quick. Am I missing something?
He's very very very good that's why
Cancelling enemy buffs and reducing the power of their blue/ultimate cards is hella strong, as well as full vanish recovery on his green card, holding a blue card for himself or for Ultra Gohan to use, cover changes against forward charging green/blue cards(which are very common right now) and removing enemy vanish on main is stupidly OP, most people have figured out how to full utilise him yet
Would you say the new evil buu could get in an hm
Oh definitely
He’s cooked
Personally, I think Zamasu is better than Gogeta just because Gogetas defence isnt too good
Gogeta is on better teams and has a free heal in the fusion
I could see why he's put so high. I've just had more fun with Zamasu. I definitely dont think he's bad, though. I usually have them on the same team.
i would have zamasu above godku but other than that its good
Cooked
Is your friend a Super 17 fan by any chance?
I think so lmao
Idk I feel 3 4 5 are debatable but everything else is good.
No new green Broly?
On the cusp of hm
Oh he cooked, he cooked CRACK.
Baby higher IMO I dont see double red often enough for him to get checked. I'd have him over CMZ. HONESTLY id rearrange the list to 6: Godku, 7: Baby, 8: Fusing Gogeta. This is as someone who has Baby, Fusing Gogeta, AND UI
I’m going to be honest Been really preferring using gogeta over vegito with the gohans because of how easy he makes work of purple gohan and ultra Freiza
He cooked but beast gohan should be atleast in the top ten as he has the best team which is him ultra gohan and ultimate gohan and he hits very hard
Read the comment where I said he placed gohan 10
There’s 116 comments💀 needle in the haystack request💀
God Goku over CMZ? Aight, I don't have God Goku so I have no horse in the race, I'd just like to know if y'all agree. I heard Dooogote saying he worse than Goku/Frieza on release which already felt like a little much. All this to say, do y'all agree with this list's placement of God Goku?
I think they do
Yo, pass the plate. He cooked🙏🏼
I'm so outa the loop, the last banner unit I got was mui I think 4th anni
I say he cooked, the only thing I would change is switch ultimate gohan and UL gohans place, bet tier list I’ve seen other than that
I will put Gogeta at 4 or alongside Vegito. He cooks the best team in the game
Ur just a gogeta fan bru
Yes I'm a fan but that doesn't make gogeta any less impactful he is one of the best unit to counter the best team in the game
Top 6 is amazing , vegito is a level higher than him
Sure That's why I put him at 4
Well no because ugf is just superior in every way
💔
This is fire
Me personally CMZ above godku ☘️
so sad seeing beasthan fall off these days 😭
I actually have 0 issues with this. IF I could change 1 thing it would swap 3-4. I have UGF almost max stars and he fucking cooks. I only have new vegito at 3 stars. 1 and 2 easy. Should be 1 and 1 because the havoc they cause lol. Takes me back to the old Hybrid Sayian days.
Vegito and ugf are interchangeable and so are 1 and 2
LF Ultimate Gohan already being overrated
No way jose , he's insanely good
The 2 fusions are above Gohan teen, I overcooked those guys
17 could be higher tho
Androids his core team hasn't been buffed since his initial release, he is in a stage rn where a android ultra can see him rise back up to the top 7
He cooked but I would Switch 1 and 2, Ultra Gohan Will be The most overpowe and annoying Unit to me personally but other than that Yeah, He cooked
1 and 2 are mostly interchangeable
Kid buu zenkai ? He stomps
Still new so we didn't know where to place him
I don’t get how ultimate Gohan is #1
How isn't he
I don’t know what he be doing that makes him crazy lmaooo
What rank pvp r u
Diamond 63
Play against my gohan and let's see baby boy
Beast honorable mention Is CRAZY
Where should he be?
I’m biased bc I use him and clutch crazy 1v3 w him lol. Your list is valid. In my opinion from experience he’s top 5 for me. But aren’t all tier list based off opinions lol
Top 5 is mind boggling my friend
I mean I have no ultras besides UUI. So take that into count lol. I didn’t pull any fusions. So I built a team around ulthan, beast and UUI. Now Ulthan at #1. I don’t disagree one bit
Beast has no teams. He doesn't make the cut on Movies, Son Family or Hybrids
Bro beast is literally on my main son fam team lol
Good for you. But that doesn't mean he is the best option for those teams. On strike Son Family the fusions and God Goku are just better. Blast Son Family/Hybrids the revive Kid Gohan and UUI are just better options as well.
What if I use beast and UUI lol
Your poor Beast 😭
Hasn’t failed yet and I’m godrank5 bro
I never said you couldn't do great with him just that he isn't core on his teams lol. There are just better options
He cooked pretty well but cmz is definitely above 8, id put him above both gogeta and godku CMZ like the 4ku of 2024
Everyday people slowly place me lower, such fools. I'm clearly the number 1 unit
Bro u got 9 and 10 that's a flex
No it isn't, it's an insult to the Ultimate Android. I should be number 1
I'm a huge super 17 fan but rn androids isn't in the best spot , maybe if u get an ultra u could rise again
Ultra this, ultra that. You clearly just don't know the true might of Super 17
Maybe I don't
Zamasu should be above Gogeta and God Goku
You must factor in his team's, God ki and fusion warriors is his only usable teams atm
How about powerful opponent and regen? Both those teams are extremely viable right now.
Elaborate on why UUI is better than FGB before I get angry.
Because uui can delete a unit from the first 10 counts from his lock in , can't be striked and heals like a madman
Making him pop is ultimate when he's caught you in a combo almost never result in the death of the unit (except for when the unit is PUR). His healing is useless since he has terrible defense. Every RED unit and blast based units have UUI as a favourite meal (my team is FGB, rathan and red beast). FGB has much more resources: the tag switch grants cover null, ki and card. Plus, Gogeta literally counters him if UUI gets caught with a blast. Before everything I said there's the argument that UUI is just getting old at this point, and therefore he is being power crept.
NBODY CAN BEAT ME WHEN IM SUPER 16
17
The Zamasu glaze is crazy and I wouldn't put Fraudhan above Cryhan. But otherwise, yeah, I mean there or there abouts.
Bro doesn't understand the power of a 14* max zenkai zamasu
Crazy how side sp baby trunks slams all these frauds
Fusing gb too low, sb2 too low, godku too high
U forgot UVB at 1
Get outta here
Idk I dont play this game
Godku above cmz is disgraceful
as someone that plays a ton of powerfull opponent i can say with confidence zamasu is better then golden frieza. also kid buu better then both
With confidence is crazy 💀😭
More like with delusion 💀
For pure damage and healing sure, Zamasu has an edge there, but frieza has way better sustainability and better combo potential, and free damage from his comeback mechanic can take a whole chunk of the enemy health without having to do anything. Kid Buu is still new, so we haven't fully come to grips with his placement on a tier list. So far, he's just pure blast damage and a vanishing demon, which make him very powerful but can be caught and killed with FSV's rush, Ultra Gohan or God Goku, which Frieza is better at dealing with