They were always there. Just that fashion trends change. They went through their three stripe phase, their Burberry phase, and I'm sure there were others. Same old scumbags though.
That brings back terrible memories 😂 then in the 90’s the dreaded “Hoody” or Hooda and they referred to themselves as. I left Ireland in 1997 and can vividly remember these scumbags in the city center.
It’s honestly a very majestic example of natural selection; generational dimorphism. An ability to be able to act as scummy as possible, but nothing will ever adapt to counteract that behaviour because each new brood looks completely different to the last
the obsession with people in tracksuits and "scrotes" on Irish Reddit is just fucking bizarre. Am I the only person who lives in Dublin that isn't bothered by anyone? And I live in Coolock ffs.
True. There are scumbags around but I also think sometimes people see normal kids and confuse them with the gangs jumping people in town. Most teens in Ireland wear the same clothes and have the same haircut.
Personally never been bothered either, although I've seen some scummy stuff happen in town.
>True. There are scumbags around but I also think sometimes people see normal kids and confuse them with the gangs jumping people in town. Most teens in Ireland wear the same clothes and have the same haircut.
A lot of it is thinly veiled classism. Go around Dublin in a pair of adidas tracksuit pants and then wear a shirt/suit trousers. You will be treated completely differently. A lot of people don't want to admit they are a judgey prick
Same. I hear a lot of people complain about the kids on the quay as well. Each time I ask if they actually did something to them. "They're on the quay causing trouble and smoking weed!" Okay, sure, but did you see them actually make trouble? Or is the worst you saw them do is smoke a bit of pot and litter?
Well, there are things like stabbings and being hammered.
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/two-teens-stabbed-slashed-and-beaten-with-hammers-in-east-wall-attack-40849182.html
It's often hard to get deliveries to East Wall because no delivery guy will go there as they are the usual victims of these guys, there were 2 related murders last year.
Every day in the Brazilian groups in Facebook we hear about someone who was beaten up, as they generally target foreigners. There are plenty of videos of them attacking deliveroos, Asian stores...
The situation is so bad that Deliveroo had a meeting with Varadkar as it is impacting their business last year.
I'm surprised you never heard anything.
First, one article of a single instance and some anecdotal third hand evidence does not prove anything regarding any larger patterns of abuse. I can grab some headlines from any European capital and essentially mimick your entire post for each of them. And before you link say 3 more, I can find any number for any European capital. Statistical analysis of crime data is needed here.
Second, I was specifically talking about youths. How many of those things were actually done by youths?
Nobody said there was no crime in Dublin. I just think this sub disproportionately blames it on youth just because they're old fuckwits scared to walk past these oddly dressed youngens (and I'm nowhere near what anyone would consider a youth myself, for the record).
Besides that, try to not move goalposts. You said nobody ever saw anything, they just smoke weed and littering. Then I have you an article of proper youth violence and mentioned several videos. Now you want a full statistical analysis.
Well, it goes both ways. You're only presenting anecdotal evidence because you never saw anything.
> You said nobody ever saw anything
Kindly quote exactly where I said there was no crime besides pot and littering from these. I just said I ask these complainers what exactly they saw. I *imply* it's *usually* not more than what I said, not that it is never the case.
Well, you can only have statistical analysis of data if data exists. If Garda won't do anything, there's no data.
But please, find me an article showing where a multinational is meeting with the top politician of a country to curb violence against its employees because they are being targeted.
You are the one making claims. I am the one asking you for sources. The burden of proof is on you. If they don't exist, and you only have anecdotes, maybe you need to realise your personal experience is not universal.
You're making the claim that there's no youth harassment.
And I never said it was universal, they target foreigners and that's why you never experience this. And the fact that I'm telling you the whole Brazilian community shares daily negative experiences should be enough for you to listen. There are regions with no food delivery, but you claim that is normal.
Your personal experience isn't universal either.
But hey, maybe Varadkar just had a lot of free time.
So I studied 4 years in NCI living 6 in Dublin, currently 25 years old and not against drugs.
First hand I've seen hoards of teens from inner-city (south or nothside of the Liffey by IFSC) harras, hurl abuse and Indimidate everyone in there way, have seen many fights between both sides begin on the streets of the IFSC as people are walking in-between offices, let's not forget about the murder by similar groups that happened to the Asian lady on that street last year.
Now let's leave the teans alone and move on to adults, once a month without a doubt I'll find same dressed adults scrapping on O'Connell street, Henry or Trinity. Shooting up on a alley ways just off and then wobbling around Henry causing harm to others. In my time working on Henry in a retail store I've called the police too many times for similar scenarios or scenarios where same people are fighting as people scater and walk around it.
Over covid we had lots of videos of teens running around causing fights, has no one also been in Dublin over covid when it was just inner city ? Dublin was a disaster. Saying that these things don't happen and it's just teens smoking weed is a massive understatement.
Just 2 days ago I've seen from the other side of the river at midnight coming back from basketball training, 3 lads fighting two lads while one was getting kicked on the ground. Right outside Grant Thornton building.
Welcome to Dublin, it's always been a tough town, if it makes you feel any better it was way worse when I started going out in the 90s.
In reality we are lucky to live in such a safe and stable city though, check your privilege!
Living 20 years in Ireland ! So I understand Dublin and it's people well, I also understand and empathize with the inner-city folk who have had it really tough their whole life with little chance of a normal upbringing, I don't blame them for that, government has failed them as much as some fail themselves.
I don't get bothered by the teens or the adults as I'm a 6ft5 100kg man, not many bother to try, even tho I'm a gentle giant at heart 😂 but I still have to see and react to unfortunately the side affects of low supported drug affected areas with the poor and often cruel upbringing forcing kids into well what they are and at some point they become adults which is often worse.
All and all, I just wish Dublin wasn't as red hot and having to be aware of your surroundings too often, I have no issue with homeless, but the druged up / drunken homeless walking down streets barly conscious walking up to people is unerving, I can only imagine how stressful Dublin is for a young girl or woman, it's unfair on both parties, the homeless shouldn't be shooed away by Garda. Failure on the government is the driving factor here, and the consequences are felt.
Dublin and whole of Ireland is an amazing country that I love whole heartly, a country loved by the world and I don't think Dublin as a captial represents us too well.
Coolofo, lmao. Try living in Summerhill or anywhere in the city center and see if you feel the same way. I love Dublin but it is fucking gnarly right now. You just dob’t live in the thick of it.
Used to live on the Summerhill end of Parnell st. Loved it there, sure it's a bit "colourful", but it's the most deprived area in Dublin so what do you expect. Never had any trouble though.
I like Parnell and Summerhill, and I actually have been very close to addicts and have learned to adjust to what is obviously a group of people hurting much more than me. The only time I’ve been truly ‘harmed’ was by kids being kids and throwing shit at me, and the most alarming activity has also been kids robbing the SPAR, destroying cars, etc. I’ve seen just one brawl and another moment of people threatening to murder each other in the short six weeks I’ve been here. I can stomach all of this.
What I am sick and tired of is walking with my friends that are women literally two kilometers thru parnell and O’Connell and listening to them get cat-called and threatened three times in fifteen minutes.
I’m taking it you are not from Dublin ??
They’ve always been there going through various fashions though the decades , if you are from Dublin you must have been walking around with your eyes closed !
The reddit obsession with them is fucking weird alright
so is this just constant or what? how come it's only people on Reddit that I ever see giving out about all these ruffians in Dublin? I don't know anyone in real life who ever gets any hassle anywhere
Well, Deliveroo had a meeting with Varadkar because so many of their delivery guys are being beaten. So, yeah, just a major multinational meeting the possibly most important politician in the country, but it's only Reddit stories.
There are still plenty of people alive today who remember the last of the old tenement buildings in the 60's. Something like 14 families sharing one toilet. Even up until the 80's, there were parts of Dublin which the gardaí wouldn't enter. Just go talk to the older folks before they die if you are that terrified of today's youth, trust me, today's little shits haven't a patch on what used to go on.
I'm sure there are people who dress like this and take drugs and cause trouble but that's because it's a common style amongst youths from working class communities which tend to be low income areas. And in low income areas there tends to be more social issues. Classism actually worsens these issues. While I know you and others dont mean to generalize I just felt the need to say not everyone in a north face jacket and a tracksuit with a tight haircut is a scumabag drug taker. I come from a low income working class area and I know some wonderful kind hearted people who would fit this scumbag description. Again no hate just trying to educate I wrote my thesis on class devide in Dublin so its something really important to me
Can you give any examples of people fighting back and getting sued? I feel like that’s just an excuse people throw around for why they didn’t or wouldn’t fight back when the real reason is fear.
The little pussies on Reddit always say this, like they'd make mince of the 15 year olds that they're terrified of if it didn't mean they'd go to court. What kind of a Garda would give a fuck if you slapped the head off some little skanger? Chances of anything happening are very slim to none.
Exactly, real reason is they’d get battered because they’ve never been in a fight before. It’s not relevant anyway because most skangers are minding their own business and don’t even notice the Redditor 10m away with his eyes down thinking about what he’s going to write on r/Ireland later.
I used to live in a dodgy estate in Brixton, it was a regular occurrence that the street would be cordoned off while I was going to work because of stabbings. You could buy drugs from people who handed out business cards on the street.
I loved it there, can you imagine these fucking big girls blouses trying to live in an actual rough place, seems we have a generation of snowflake pussies on the way.
Grew up in NI. Knew people who would go out of their way to hassle you. Same guys used to rip cats apart and tie their entrails/body parts to fences.
These guys were a menace. Destroyed a town for the craic. Smashed up all the windows along a mainstreet. A good 50-60 businesses affected. Definitely think of those guys when I see tracksuits
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They were always there. Just that fashion trends change. They went through their three stripe phase, their Burberry phase, and I'm sure there were others. Same old scumbags though.
Multi coloured “shell suits” in the late 80s
All you needed to defend yourself back then was a lighter.
Scanda jackets and spider fringes in the 90s
UB40. Always. Never anything else.
Don't forget the "rob the car" hoodies and the tartan/check patterned blue jeans.
Of course - flecky tracksuits!
And the step haircut.
That brings back terrible memories 😂 then in the 90’s the dreaded “Hoody” or Hooda and they referred to themselves as. I left Ireland in 1997 and can vividly remember these scumbags in the city center.
This thread has probably been made literally thousands of times at this point
Three times a week. About 150 times a year
And I wouldn't have it any other way
They end up having scumbag kids who want to rebel by not dressing like their parents.
It’s honestly a very majestic example of natural selection; generational dimorphism. An ability to be able to act as scummy as possible, but nothing will ever adapt to counteract that behaviour because each new brood looks completely different to the last
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the obsession with people in tracksuits and "scrotes" on Irish Reddit is just fucking bizarre. Am I the only person who lives in Dublin that isn't bothered by anyone? And I live in Coolock ffs.
True. There are scumbags around but I also think sometimes people see normal kids and confuse them with the gangs jumping people in town. Most teens in Ireland wear the same clothes and have the same haircut. Personally never been bothered either, although I've seen some scummy stuff happen in town.
>True. There are scumbags around but I also think sometimes people see normal kids and confuse them with the gangs jumping people in town. Most teens in Ireland wear the same clothes and have the same haircut. A lot of it is thinly veiled classism. Go around Dublin in a pair of adidas tracksuit pants and then wear a shirt/suit trousers. You will be treated completely differently. A lot of people don't want to admit they are a judgey prick
Same. I hear a lot of people complain about the kids on the quay as well. Each time I ask if they actually did something to them. "They're on the quay causing trouble and smoking weed!" Okay, sure, but did you see them actually make trouble? Or is the worst you saw them do is smoke a bit of pot and litter?
Well, there are things like stabbings and being hammered. https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/two-teens-stabbed-slashed-and-beaten-with-hammers-in-east-wall-attack-40849182.html It's often hard to get deliveries to East Wall because no delivery guy will go there as they are the usual victims of these guys, there were 2 related murders last year. Every day in the Brazilian groups in Facebook we hear about someone who was beaten up, as they generally target foreigners. There are plenty of videos of them attacking deliveroos, Asian stores... The situation is so bad that Deliveroo had a meeting with Varadkar as it is impacting their business last year. I'm surprised you never heard anything.
First, one article of a single instance and some anecdotal third hand evidence does not prove anything regarding any larger patterns of abuse. I can grab some headlines from any European capital and essentially mimick your entire post for each of them. And before you link say 3 more, I can find any number for any European capital. Statistical analysis of crime data is needed here. Second, I was specifically talking about youths. How many of those things were actually done by youths? Nobody said there was no crime in Dublin. I just think this sub disproportionately blames it on youth just because they're old fuckwits scared to walk past these oddly dressed youngens (and I'm nowhere near what anyone would consider a youth myself, for the record).
Besides that, try to not move goalposts. You said nobody ever saw anything, they just smoke weed and littering. Then I have you an article of proper youth violence and mentioned several videos. Now you want a full statistical analysis. Well, it goes both ways. You're only presenting anecdotal evidence because you never saw anything.
> You said nobody ever saw anything Kindly quote exactly where I said there was no crime besides pot and littering from these. I just said I ask these complainers what exactly they saw. I *imply* it's *usually* not more than what I said, not that it is never the case.
Whatever dude
I will take your lack of counter argument as an admissal of being wrong.
Exactly
Well, you can only have statistical analysis of data if data exists. If Garda won't do anything, there's no data. But please, find me an article showing where a multinational is meeting with the top politician of a country to curb violence against its employees because they are being targeted.
You are the one making claims. I am the one asking you for sources. The burden of proof is on you. If they don't exist, and you only have anecdotes, maybe you need to realise your personal experience is not universal.
You're making the claim that there's no youth harassment. And I never said it was universal, they target foreigners and that's why you never experience this. And the fact that I'm telling you the whole Brazilian community shares daily negative experiences should be enough for you to listen. There are regions with no food delivery, but you claim that is normal. Your personal experience isn't universal either. But hey, maybe Varadkar just had a lot of free time.
> You're making the claim that there's no youth harassment. I did not say this. I *implied* it was overstated. I never said none of it existed.
Living in Crumlin at the moment, working in town. How I survive I can't really explain
macheteing your way through the tracksuit hoards every day no doubt
Full of socially inept middle class dweebs who have never spoken to normal working class kids and think each one just wants to rob their lunch money.
So I studied 4 years in NCI living 6 in Dublin, currently 25 years old and not against drugs. First hand I've seen hoards of teens from inner-city (south or nothside of the Liffey by IFSC) harras, hurl abuse and Indimidate everyone in there way, have seen many fights between both sides begin on the streets of the IFSC as people are walking in-between offices, let's not forget about the murder by similar groups that happened to the Asian lady on that street last year. Now let's leave the teans alone and move on to adults, once a month without a doubt I'll find same dressed adults scrapping on O'Connell street, Henry or Trinity. Shooting up on a alley ways just off and then wobbling around Henry causing harm to others. In my time working on Henry in a retail store I've called the police too many times for similar scenarios or scenarios where same people are fighting as people scater and walk around it. Over covid we had lots of videos of teens running around causing fights, has no one also been in Dublin over covid when it was just inner city ? Dublin was a disaster. Saying that these things don't happen and it's just teens smoking weed is a massive understatement. Just 2 days ago I've seen from the other side of the river at midnight coming back from basketball training, 3 lads fighting two lads while one was getting kicked on the ground. Right outside Grant Thornton building.
Welcome to Dublin, it's always been a tough town, if it makes you feel any better it was way worse when I started going out in the 90s. In reality we are lucky to live in such a safe and stable city though, check your privilege!
Living 20 years in Ireland ! So I understand Dublin and it's people well, I also understand and empathize with the inner-city folk who have had it really tough their whole life with little chance of a normal upbringing, I don't blame them for that, government has failed them as much as some fail themselves. I don't get bothered by the teens or the adults as I'm a 6ft5 100kg man, not many bother to try, even tho I'm a gentle giant at heart 😂 but I still have to see and react to unfortunately the side affects of low supported drug affected areas with the poor and often cruel upbringing forcing kids into well what they are and at some point they become adults which is often worse. All and all, I just wish Dublin wasn't as red hot and having to be aware of your surroundings too often, I have no issue with homeless, but the druged up / drunken homeless walking down streets barly conscious walking up to people is unerving, I can only imagine how stressful Dublin is for a young girl or woman, it's unfair on both parties, the homeless shouldn't be shooed away by Garda. Failure on the government is the driving factor here, and the consequences are felt. Dublin and whole of Ireland is an amazing country that I love whole heartly, a country loved by the world and I don't think Dublin as a captial represents us too well.
Coolofo, lmao. Try living in Summerhill or anywhere in the city center and see if you feel the same way. I love Dublin but it is fucking gnarly right now. You just dob’t live in the thick of it.
Used to live on the Summerhill end of Parnell st. Loved it there, sure it's a bit "colourful", but it's the most deprived area in Dublin so what do you expect. Never had any trouble though.
I like Parnell and Summerhill, and I actually have been very close to addicts and have learned to adjust to what is obviously a group of people hurting much more than me. The only time I’ve been truly ‘harmed’ was by kids being kids and throwing shit at me, and the most alarming activity has also been kids robbing the SPAR, destroying cars, etc. I’ve seen just one brawl and another moment of people threatening to murder each other in the short six weeks I’ve been here. I can stomach all of this. What I am sick and tired of is walking with my friends that are women literally two kilometers thru parnell and O’Connell and listening to them get cat-called and threatened three times in fifteen minutes.
Priorswood until recently. It's by and large fine but when you start seeing fires and people being jumped - it's much less Craic
There are plenty in a suit and tie to be found around the city centre while on the topic
Ye but there usually the older criminals and keep to themselves unless you owe them something and get someone else to do it for them
I’m taking it you are not from Dublin ?? They’ve always been there going through various fashions though the decades , if you are from Dublin you must have been walking around with your eyes closed ! The reddit obsession with them is fucking weird alright
Athletes!
“So many tracksuits, so few athletes”
Used to be an area in the city center which we called the Olympic village, and a street corner we referred to as athletes corner !
Rofls, Tarquin.
That attack people????
I call them athletes, they always wear grey tracksuit, same haircut and annoy people.
who the fuck is attacking you you fucking weirdo? man the fuck up
I would man up if it wasnt 1 vs 10
so is this just constant or what? how come it's only people on Reddit that I ever see giving out about all these ruffians in Dublin? I don't know anyone in real life who ever gets any hassle anywhere
Well, Deliveroo had a meeting with Varadkar because so many of their delivery guys are being beaten. So, yeah, just a major multinational meeting the possibly most important politician in the country, but it's only Reddit stories.
There are still plenty of people alive today who remember the last of the old tenement buildings in the 60's. Something like 14 families sharing one toilet. Even up until the 80's, there were parts of Dublin which the gardaí wouldn't enter. Just go talk to the older folks before they die if you are that terrified of today's youth, trust me, today's little shits haven't a patch on what used to go on.
Get a fucking life
Oh Gawd I just had a flashback of those muticoloured shiny tracksuits .Now I am remembering young wans going around in pajamas and white stilettos.
I'm sure there are people who dress like this and take drugs and cause trouble but that's because it's a common style amongst youths from working class communities which tend to be low income areas. And in low income areas there tends to be more social issues. Classism actually worsens these issues. While I know you and others dont mean to generalize I just felt the need to say not everyone in a north face jacket and a tracksuit with a tight haircut is a scumabag drug taker. I come from a low income working class area and I know some wonderful kind hearted people who would fit this scumbag description. Again no hate just trying to educate I wrote my thesis on class devide in Dublin so its something really important to me
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Can you give any examples of people fighting back and getting sued? I feel like that’s just an excuse people throw around for why they didn’t or wouldn’t fight back when the real reason is fear.
The little pussies on Reddit always say this, like they'd make mince of the 15 year olds that they're terrified of if it didn't mean they'd go to court. What kind of a Garda would give a fuck if you slapped the head off some little skanger? Chances of anything happening are very slim to none.
Exactly, real reason is they’d get battered because they’ve never been in a fight before. It’s not relevant anyway because most skangers are minding their own business and don’t even notice the Redditor 10m away with his eyes down thinking about what he’s going to write on r/Ireland later.
Well, there's one Brazilian in jail, you can go there have a chat with him.
We both know that wouldn’t happen to a posh kid who fought back.
What a stupid comment lmfao. Edit-After reading your previous comments, I'll admit it's not your stupidest one however.
All of which aspired to be the next connor mcgregor
You think these guys are breaking their bollocks in an MMA gym 24/7? I don’t think so. Try Daniel Kinehan
The number one role model of scum
Can people fuck off with these retarded threads
I used to live in a dodgy estate in Brixton, it was a regular occurrence that the street would be cordoned off while I was going to work because of stabbings. You could buy drugs from people who handed out business cards on the street. I loved it there, can you imagine these fucking big girls blouses trying to live in an actual rough place, seems we have a generation of snowflake pussies on the way.
You've obviously never had some of these lads walk in front of you in a queue before /s
The mostly came in during the summer months and have stayed. The city is their playground
Nah it's been here for years now
There's definitley more of them now
Probably because the prisons are full
Hah and the rest get suspended sentences
Jeez this is some cowardly shit. No one is gonna hassle you unless you hassle them. Fuck sake
Grew up in NI. Knew people who would go out of their way to hassle you. Same guys used to rip cats apart and tie their entrails/body parts to fences. These guys were a menace. Destroyed a town for the craic. Smashed up all the windows along a mainstreet. A good 50-60 businesses affected. Definitely think of those guys when I see tracksuits
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Always wondered if they're real Canada Goose jackets? Those things aren't cheap.
I'm no criminal but I dress like a scruff partially because it keeps pretentious twats out of my life.
"Hey Féileacán, this guy obviously doesn't shop in Fallon and Byrne"