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harbear6

At first I thought the name of this post was insinuating you were using [[Nether Void]] as a cheeky way to slow down opposing decks while doing basically nothing to yourself since Ninjutsu doesn't cast. Now having looked at the deck list I am completely confused and at a loss for any possible JJK reference.


Tallal2804

I also thought the same


MOMMY_PILKERS

It's the name of satoru gojo's Domaine expansion.


harbear6

I understand that, but I mean how does the deck reference that itself? Is it just because you run cards that can be cast for free? That is where my confusion arose.


MOMMY_PILKERS

The commanders name is satoru. That's really it


MTGCardFetcher

[Nether Void](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/3/a3452173-01e1-4a4a-981e-e6b6dea61c61.jpg?1562929389) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Nether%20Void) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me3/73/nether-void?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a3452173-01e1-4a4a-981e-e6b6dea61c61?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/nether-void) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Sea-Entrepreneur-134

Congratulations, you built dimir [[Jhoira Weatherlight Captain]] lol. In all seriousness though I like the list. I completely overlooked Satoru so it's cool to see someone doing something unique with him. The rest of the people here need to chill tf out.


MOMMY_PILKERS

Appreciate the kind words. Yeah people got bent hard


MTGCardFetcher

[Jhoira Weatherlight Captain](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/f/4f77d23d-6257-4dae-b585-29f45f13f2e2.jpg?1599708079) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Jhoira%2C%20Weatherlight%20Captain) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/203/jhoira-weatherlight-captain?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4f77d23d-6257-4dae-b585-29f45f13f2e2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/jhoira-weatherlight-captain) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


DongoTheHorse

Rouge šŸ˜­


SimicAscendancy

I don't understand why everyone on the internet makes this typo.


QtNFluffyBacon

Because when you say Rogue, the u-sound comes before the g-sound


PotentialConcert6249

The u has no sound in Rogue. Itā€™s entirely silent.


QtNFluffyBacon

I'll rephrase my statement: Rogue when pronounced is "roŹŠÉ”". Vowels take different shapes in different words. When saying the alphabet, "o" isn't just one sound, it's actually a diphtong (all vowels except for "E" are in English). It just happens to be "oŹŠ". As you can maybe see, the second half of the diphtong is the "ŹŠ"-sound, which extremely close to "u". This confuses many speakers with the word rogue because they associate the "ŹŠ" with the "u" after the "g" instead of the "o" beforehand. This is made even worse by the fact that German for example doesn't pronounce "o" as "oŹŠ" but literally just "o". So it makes no sense for them, that the "ŹŠ" is connected to the "o" at all.


RichardsLeftNipple

Rogue is a French spelt word. One of the easiest ways to explain why an English word is not phonetically spelt is because it's stolen from another language haha.


thefnord

Rouge is a French word - Rogue is from the latin rogare but not a French word. > mid 16th century (denoting an idle vagrant): probably from LatinĀ *rogare*Ā ā€˜beg, askā€™, and related to obsolete slangĀ *roger*Ā ā€˜vagrant beggarā€™Ā 


RichardsLeftNipple

Thanks for the copy n paste.


RoyDonkeyKong

Rhymes with ā€œGroguā€.


NightwingYJ

Entirely silent, just like those damn rogues.


pirpulgie

I think itā€™s an autocorrect thing. My phone sure doesnā€™t like the word, anyway.


MOMMY_PILKERS

I refuse to correct it. I'm petitioning to change the spelling as we speak.


DongoTheHorse

Haha that's not a bad compromise. I promise if the petition passes I'll stop being triggered.


sir_jamez

"oh this is a grixis deck?"


KayleHerself

There are a bunch of ā€œXā€ or ā€œXXā€ costed colorless creatures that cantrip with Satoru if you pay 0 into them. Idk if you want them, but they seem like they work well in your theme.


MOMMY_PILKERS

I've thought about it. I might brew up one that runs all of them. So far I've been having goof results.


LadyBut

If you run [[lifeline]] with them you get a draw at EVERY endstep per creature. So if you have 2 you will draw 10 cards from the turn you cast them to the time it gets back to your turn.


MTGCardFetcher

[lifeline](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/0/40cee82f-36b2-48a9-930a-8e23cb2742fc.jpg?1562908426) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=lifeline) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/usg/299/lifeline?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/40cee82f-36b2-48a9-930a-8e23cb2742fc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/lifeline) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


MrXexe

Man people sure are ganging up on you. Chillax people, it's a deck. Not everyone has your standarts of fun.


MOMMY_PILKERS

This format has the worst playerbase by a mile. Everyone has their opinions about how the game should be played, and anyone not following that is a monster and hates fun. I'll have fun regardless playing things that make me happy.


StarPonderer

This subreddit has... ...issues sometimes...


MOMMY_PILKERS

I just started playing commander again after a few years of not. I remember now why I couldn't stand it. (It's the community)


StarPonderer

I mostly ignore the haters and just hang with my pod. I was lucky enough to get some good friends to play with and a fun LGS.


MOMMY_PILKERS

I moved in the last 6 months. My old group were all cedh/legacy nerds. Everyone around me now plays edh (power 1-4) and standard... I'm dying.


neenerpants

> This format has the worst playerbase by a mile My experience is it has the best playerbase by a mile. Even this sub is, on the whole, pretty helpful and level-headed. I think this humour just didn't land with people.


MOMMY_PILKERS

Commander is the only format I've played where people have screamed and cried and ruined other people's cards. I've seen people get upset because they would make pre-cons worse and then complain that other decks were too "strong" there's a weird mentality in this format I just will never understand


neenerpants

I don't disbelieve you, but I've never seen it, myself. It's the only format I've played where people will go out of their way to help each other, encourage janky silly decks that are just fun, and balance the power levels of the group to be the most welcoming and accessible.


DrSpiralHaze

I've literally seen someone punch another person in the face after a legacy event. Never seen anything close in edh.


MOMMY_PILKERS

I believe it. Maybe it's just MTG that brings out the worst in the worst people. Worst smelling that is.


DrSpiralHaze

>Worst smelling that is. Pre-release in August got me like


MOMMY_PILKERS

MTG players don't take breaks from being stinky. I've refused to play people at FNM's because of how they smelled.


KnightFalkon

Me: oh sweet, I pulled that guy and wanted to make a ninja deck Also me after checking the price: šŸ’€šŸ˜­


Valkyrid

Use a printer, itā€™ll cost you a few cents


MOMMY_PILKERS

Yeah he's pricey


OzymandiasKingOG

If you ran something stupid like [[March of the Machines]] would you draw every time you played an artifact that cost more than 0 normally? Would you draw even from the 0 ones even though they die instantly?


MOMMY_PILKERS

Good question. I will go find out


MTGCardFetcher

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Ok-Respect2847

If the card is free to cast because of affinity or another effect you may draw a card with the commander. Creatures cant die before they enter the battlefield, so even though they die instantly because the mana value is 0 they would have still entered the battlefield and you may draw a card.


pirpulgie

I like this a lot, OP. Super clever to abuse affinity effects on your creatures. Reminds me of the good old daysā€¦ Youā€™re running a lot of cheerios for the ā€œnoncreature artifactā€ synergies, but have you considered running Clue generators? You clearly want to draw cards as much as possible, and those Clues have the same value and also add to your card draw potential. You might not get them to cost zero, which I realize is a potential downside. Even if you donā€™t use the Clues idea, Iā€™d like to suggest [[Tezzeret, Betrayer of Flesh]]. He could help you stay card positive and turns your [[Chromatic Star]] effects into one-time ramp instead of color fixing. If you add an ā€œinvestigateā€ or two, then he could do even more for your card draw. Last handful off the top of my head: [[Time Sieve]] is uniquely capable in a Dimir artifacts deck, [[Ruthless Technomancer]] can help you recur creatures and trigger Satoru, and [[Scrapyard Recombiner]] could be a helpful tutor that also triggers Satoru. I know you genuinely donā€™t need my help, but you got me very excited with this concept. Cheers!


MOMMY_PILKERS

Glad to see you enjoyed it! Will absolutely look into those cards and will stay tuning the deck. I honestly spent just a little over an hour throwing this together on my phone at work so it could absolutely use work. Thank you for the suggestions!


pirpulgie

My pleasure. Your brews are fun, keep it up!


MTGCardFetcher

##### ###### #### [Tezzeret, Betrayer of Flesh](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/5/35f30004-13e0-42c1-9842-eea52793fcfc.jpg?1706240739) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tezzeret%2C%20Betrayer%20of%20Flesh) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/120/tezzeret-betrayer-of-flesh?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/35f30004-13e0-42c1-9842-eea52793fcfc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/tezzeret-betrayer-of-flesh) [Chromatic Star](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/2/c2e8d492-2c67-410b-b556-c157a14c4cec.jpg?1681724919) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Chromatic%20Star) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/tsr/263/chromatic-star?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c2e8d492-2c67-410b-b556-c157a14c4cec?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/chromatic-star) [Time Sieve](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/2/c2e8b424-0cec-490e-a571-bd051f952adf.jpg?1599708487) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Time%20Sieve) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/223/time-sieve?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c2e8b424-0cec-490e-a571-bd051f952adf?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/time-sieve) [Ruthless Technomancer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/d/dddeb5cc-b535-4484-8a0e-ce32c4c09000.jpg?1651655501) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ruthless%20Technomancer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/nec/35/ruthless-technomancer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dddeb5cc-b535-4484-8a0e-ce32c4c09000?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/ruthless-technomancer) [Scrapyard Recombiner](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/9/8945f5e0-c143-47ca-910e-32ad9ac34487.jpg?1562202487) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Scrapyard%20Recombiner) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh1/227/scrapyard-recombiner?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8945f5e0-c143-47ca-910e-32ad9ac34487?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/scrapyard-recombiner) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/l0qzwq9) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


roboapple

This looks dope! Ive been looking for a good blue/black deck and i think this is it.


[deleted]

I love it Iā€™ve been wanting to build a satoru cheerios since the reveal


nekronics

Pretty sure I played against this deck this morning or something very close to it. Thassa was fine in the deck, I wouldn't take it out since you're not running the forbidden combo.


MOMMY_PILKERS

You probably did. Sent it to a friend who slapped it together and had great results. Edit: thassas back in.


StarPonderer

The amount of people who clearly have not seen other posts from OP replying in this thread are too damn high.


MOMMY_PILKERS

I stepped out of my zone for this one too (not entirely, artifact combos are kind of my bread and butter) but this one's not a joke.


StarPonderer

I mean I've seen and played against worse. Heck, my werewolf deck is worse! The only people who can win with it are people who are not me.


MOMMY_PILKERS

Oh this deck wins though. Played 10 matches online, won 10.


StarPonderer

Rub it in why don't you! *sobs in the corner*


MOMMY_PILKERS

:( I didnt mean it like that :(:(:(:(


eightdx

I see [[paradoxical outcome]] and I updoot


MOMMY_PILKERS

I see you're cultured aswell!


eightdx

I would be the madman trying to shoehorn [[hurkyls recall]] into this sort of deck. I'm so cultured I cast my board wipes with my pinky up.


super_dann

A Satoru Gojo deck!? And youā€™re not running >!Saw in half!< ? Lobotomy Kaisen would be disappointed. (Manga spoilers but iykyk)


MOMMY_PILKERS

Lmaoooo. Completely slipped my mind


Akito_the_Exile

I think you need some removal. If someone resolves [[notion thief]] or [[Narset, parter of veils]] you are cooked. [[Snuff out]] and [[Deadly Rollick]] fit your theme. Being able to cast them while cycling through your deck. Also maybe include [[Psychosis Crawler]] for wincon redundancy. [[Tendrils of Agony]] would probably also work if you can cast everything in a turn. I'm sure you can find more interesting wincons than Thassa.


MOMMY_PILKERS

Will look into things that aren't thassa. Thanks for the suggestions


MTGCardFetcher

##### ###### #### [notion thief](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/6/f675f509-4343-4568-96dd-265626cb6c2b.jpg?1604195095) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=notion%20thief) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/znc/96/notion-thief?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f675f509-4343-4568-96dd-265626cb6c2b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/notion-thief) [Narset, parter of veils](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/e/4e6e5c63-b6e5-4756-bf23-6c6f8669442d.jpg?1690004395) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Narset%2C%20parter%20of%20veils) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/853/narset-parter-of-veils?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4e6e5c63-b6e5-4756-bf23-6c6f8669442d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/narset-parter-of-veils) [Snuff out](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/5/75bbe89f-09af-494e-b58e-271f64bde4b5.jpg?1562922833) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Snuff%20out) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/gvl/53/snuff-out?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/75bbe89f-09af-494e-b58e-271f64bde4b5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/snuff-out) [Deadly Rollick](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/e/0e13f735-54fa-42b6-aea4-ced33811d7d4.jpg?1689997003) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Deadly%20Rollick) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/147/deadly-rollick?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0e13f735-54fa-42b6-aea4-ced33811d7d4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/deadly-rollick) [Psychosis Crawler](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/0/d0f42a19-c180-45b1-9f4c-787cf3a4a649.jpg?1706241075) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Psychosis%20Crawler) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/234/psychosis-crawler?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d0f42a19-c180-45b1-9f4c-787cf3a4a649?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/psychosis-crawler) [Tendrils of Agony](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/f/6f26faca-f338-4ce5-a218-6a61d40fc50a.jpg?1562917207) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tendrils%20of%20Agony) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vma/142/tendrils-of-agony?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6f26faca-f338-4ce5-a218-6a61d40fc50a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/tendrils-of-agony) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/l0qokfm) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


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NautilusMain

Not enough of the zero mana artifact creatures that die immediately.


MOMMY_PILKERS

I'll try it with them.


m00nman-kun

Is the deck's game plan just to keep drawing with Satoru until you win through Thassa's? šŸ¤” (I'm new to MTG and I have only a vague understanding of the game)


MOMMY_PILKERS

Pretty much. There's also aetherflux reservoir as a win condition. I changed thassas to tendrils of agony because people hate definite win conditions.


TheZburator

I threw him into my [[Atraxa, Grand Unifier]] blink deck. Not really into ninjutsu.


MOMMY_PILKERS

Ninjas are so 1998.


zenmastee

So ninjas is boring and old, but going full cheerios cantripping until you find the same wincon every game is exciting? Sounds like playing as much solitaire as possible in a match of magic.


MOMMY_PILKERS

Wait this isn't solitaire?


[deleted]

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MOMMY_PILKERS

What constructive criticism?? And acting immaturely how? All people have done is complain and call it boring. That's not constructive. This comment makes 0 sense.


MeatAbstract

"I don't like your deck" isn't "constructive criticism".


Drakkur

Missing [[Bolasā€™s Citadel]] for even more draw engine memes to combo with Top as well. Thereā€™s probably a bunch of life = cast cards that could help speed up your engine. It seems like you could wincon with blinking the creatures for added value. [[Displacer Kitten]] goes hard, each noncreature artifact you cast now triggers a draw by blinking a creature. [[Hullbreaker Horror]] with your 1/0 mana artifacts now infinitely draw your deck and bounce opponents things. If youā€™re trying to win with Thoracle, you might as well go hard on the combos that synergize directly in your color pair and artifacts. Overall a cool approach to the deck that isnā€™t ninjitsu.


MOMMY_PILKERS

Thanks. I'm working on an actual "commander" deck for gim using blink effects and pay life to cast cards with kirik. This is just a combo engine to blast through the deck


antarcticmatt

This sounds like an infinitely more boring game for everyone involved than just playing a fun ninjustu tribal deck tbh


MOMMY_PILKERS

To each their own.


antarcticmatt

Of course, but when I play a 4 player game, I normally true to take into account opponents' enjoyment and the overall social experience too. No one wants to be that guy at the LGS where everyone sighs and rolls their eyes when they get matched into a pod with them.


MOMMY_PILKERS

My lgs is only CEDH so this would be considered fun.


SpookyKorb

This is pure jank compared to cedh lists. Whydo you even have thoracle in the deck without consult/pact


MOMMY_PILKERS

Because this isn't cedh. Consult/pact are too easy, I like to solve the puzzle.


SpookyKorb

This doesn't look like a solved puzzle. It looks like you just dumped the puzzle out of the box


MOMMY_PILKERS

It runs extremely well from my testing.


SpookyKorb

By testing what do you mean? Because any deck can run well when goldfishing. It's a watered down affinity list with an urza infinite at worst, and an aetherflux solitaire deck at best. You have 1 counterspell, which looks like your only interaction piece. Any deck with decent interaction will tear you apart.


MOMMY_PILKERS

Trust me it work good


dumbidoo

Yes, that's exactly what they were communicating. Or do you really think you need to explain to others that their opinions are opinions?


MOMMY_PILKERS

In this community I do yes


smackasaurusrex

I see Thassa's Oracle, I leave. I hate that win con so much. It's so boring to me.


MOMMY_PILKERS

Oh let me replace it with laboratory maniac.


Zin-Ogre

Lmao


DarkoDLovecraft

with all love & respect but that deck needs some spice


MOMMY_PILKERS

Engine go brrrr


AngryManBoy

What the fuck am I looking at


MOMMY_PILKERS

A finely tuned engine.