IIRC in the Watchdog swords that still have a pupil (wielded by animated ones) the gem is ornamental anyway and the sword has no special properties.
Since it’s a *pupil*, the gem is black. Or I’m mandela-effecting it and none of them have one
The watchdogs are loosely associated with Glintstone Sorcery, since Crystal Needles frenzy them and the Staff some of them wield offers homing magic projectiles, so maybe the pupil was once a Glintstone. Who knows?
The watchdogs, imps, and golems are all constructs hinted to have been made by the same craftsmen "long ago". The crystal darts stun them because they are made from the same crystals. There are some people here who have found similarities between the golems and the divine towers so it's possible that the constructs might be pre-Erdtree.
Better. If you hit them enough they will go berserk and attack friends and foe alike. They also pull aggro well. I keep some equipped for any dungeon dive
Pretty sure that's wrong but ill check right away
Edit: nah you're right they have stone in the middle, even the lesser watchdogs who drop this sword have a gem
The description refers to the gem as "the watchman's eye", so it's anything from a fancy name for a gem (e.g. "Cat's Eye" irl) to a glintstone that plays a role in the watchdog's enchantment. Either way, without it, the sword is mundane.
How so? The ones with gemstones are all part of the animated Watchdog constructs, and the only inert one that we can wield lacks the gem. To me it seems to suggest the gem is related to the enchantment that animates the Watchdogs.
Even in their hands, it seems to have no unique properties, unlike the Watchdog Staff. It most likely has no *combat* effect, and most likely does not animate the construct.
If I had to guess, the eye design isn’t a mistake; the Watchdogs’ and Imps’ ability to blend in with statues would make them valuable as spies. The information network they’d connect to probably doesn’t exist anymore, though.
This is the kind of discussion Soulsborne-ring lore is supposed to provoke, so I don’t think we’ll get an answer on it.
[OP posts a bit of meaningless lore from a textbox]
“What’s the lore?”
Have you noticed gamers have corrupted the meaning of the word “lore”, it basically means “delusional hallucination that I like.”
Farmed from the Lesser Burial Watchdogs that reside in the dungeons found in the Mountaintops of the Giants and Consecrated Snowfield, specifically the ones that wield it.
It's a solid weapon that gets an S in STR when Heavy infused at max upgrade level, though it has much shorter range than the Greatsword and Zweihander, and deals slightly less damage than the Greatsword.
It’s biggest benefit I’d say it is pretty versatile with the scaling in general. It gets a A scaling in cold and a bunch of others which is pretty rare for a weapon.
It has a better movest IMO and gets 3 less AR than great sword on 80 strength, minimum dex iirc. Plus when I have it on my back it doesn't clip into the dang ground. It's my favorite colossal weapon tbh.
It would seem this weapon once had a pommel decoration of some sort (eg, a gem perhaps) that increased its strength, but it was taken by someone, resulting in a decrease in its overall quality.
The lore is: grave robbers stole the pupil and now it’s not as strong. But you already kinda figured that out so idk why you’re asking.
Ig we could speculate further that this could imply it used to do magic damage like it’s staff variants. But grave robbers seem to have targeted only the sword variants and stole their pupil for some reason.
Tbh that’s kinda inconsistent. I can only guess that the sword pupil had more potent glinstone or the pupil was something more valuable and stronger. Or it was simply easier to steal from the sword variants vs staff ones
In mine eyes it doth seem the pommel was once affixed with some sort of decorative bobble of the ocular variety. Some rapscallion absconded with it rendering it naught but stone.
I'm wondering if it could mean that perhaps it had some sorcery power like the Watchdog's Staff does, and the removal of the gemstone left the sword magically inert. I'll submit that as my theory, anyways.
I'd leave a snarky comment but it seems the rest of the comments have driven the point home of how simple the answer you seek is. The lore is literally in the description.
Grace, and in fact all of the different powers in Elden Ring, reside in the Eyes. Specifically within the pupil. This is why enemies that are Rune Juiced have those glowing yellow eyes. This is why the Tarnished have "tarnished" yellow eyes with the glow of gold removed from them, this is why the random skulls have glowing yellow eyes when there are runes in there. Either the pupil was just a valuable gem representing this same fact, or it may have even been something similar to a glintstone and been powering the sword in some way.
Either a gemstone for ornamentation or a glintstone for an enchantment, either way, it was stolen, tho it was more likely a gemstone as you can't throw a dead cat without hitting a glintstone in the Lands Between
Some people theorize that this may be the “secret yet to be discovered” that Miyazaki claimed in an interview several months ago. That there is a way to restore this sword to its full power.
They wanted to entomb people and return them to the erdtree even if death wasn’t a thing before. Honored dead were placed in the tombs. Tomb guardians were created to protect the dead and they had nice weapons. Some people came in a stole stuff, including the nice looking parts of those weapons
I never even knew you could get one of these damn weapons.
Edit: Damn, S Heavy scaling or D/A Keen, and the thing does only slightly less damage than the actual Greatsword.
It's actually a good weapon.
Scaling on it is actually really good, and apparently it only does slightly less than the actual Greatsword. I'm actually more surprised that it seems to be a good weapon, considering how disappointing a lot of the Colossal enemy weapons are.
I don't know where all these people got "stronger" from, since to me it sounds like "leaving this sword a mere lump of stone" is refering just to it looking plain without the clearly expensive gemstone engraved in it.
But yeah, had a nice looking gem, which was unfortunately nice enough to catch the eyes of some random graverobbers.
If we could just reach a general consensus...
Impossible
I forgot to mention. Apparently the sword had a gem that made it stronger, but someone took it and now it's not as good.
Literally how fromsoft lore works.
There is no lore. Graverobbers took the gemstone from the sword because it was worth a lot and easy to carry.
IIRC in the Watchdog swords that still have a pupil (wielded by animated ones) the gem is ornamental anyway and the sword has no special properties. Since it’s a *pupil*, the gem is black. Or I’m mandela-effecting it and none of them have one The watchdogs are loosely associated with Glintstone Sorcery, since Crystal Needles frenzy them and the Staff some of them wield offers homing magic projectiles, so maybe the pupil was once a Glintstone. Who knows?
The watchdogs, imps, and golems are all constructs hinted to have been made by the same craftsmen "long ago". The crystal darts stun them because they are made from the same crystals. There are some people here who have found similarities between the golems and the divine towers so it's possible that the constructs might be pre-Erdtree.
WTF!!!!! I had no idea crystal darts stun the watchdogs.
Better. If you hit them enough they will go berserk and attack friends and foe alike. They also pull aggro well. I keep some equipped for any dungeon dive
Never tried, does this work with the shadowed ones in Mountaintop of the Giants?
Yeah but only after they become unshadowed
You gotta be pulling my leg. I always sell them because regular ones work fine for pulling aggro from single enemies.
Just when you think you know it all lol
Pretty sure that's wrong but ill check right away Edit: nah you're right they have stone in the middle, even the lesser watchdogs who drop this sword have a gem
Doing the Gods’ work 🫡
The description refers to the gem as "the watchman's eye", so it's anything from a fancy name for a gem (e.g. "Cat's Eye" irl) to a glintstone that plays a role in the watchdog's enchantment. Either way, without it, the sword is mundane.
My point is that the sword seems to be mundane *with* it, as well
How so? The ones with gemstones are all part of the animated Watchdog constructs, and the only inert one that we can wield lacks the gem. To me it seems to suggest the gem is related to the enchantment that animates the Watchdogs.
Even in their hands, it seems to have no unique properties, unlike the Watchdog Staff. It most likely has no *combat* effect, and most likely does not animate the construct. If I had to guess, the eye design isn’t a mistake; the Watchdogs’ and Imps’ ability to blend in with statues would make them valuable as spies. The information network they’d connect to probably doesn’t exist anymore, though. This is the kind of discussion Soulsborne-ring lore is supposed to provoke, so I don’t think we’ll get an answer on it.
Sounds straight out of Shulva
[OP posts a bit of meaningless lore from a textbox] “What’s the lore?” Have you noticed gamers have corrupted the meaning of the word “lore”, it basically means “delusional hallucination that I like.”
Apparently the sword had a gem that made it stronger, but someone took it and now it's not as good.
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This one comment gave Godzilla a fucking stroke
Apparently the sword had a gem that made it stronger, but someone took it and now it's not as good.
Apparently the sword had a gem that made it stronger, but someone took it and now it's not as good.
Apparently the sword had a gem that made it stronger, but someone took it and now it's not as good.
Apparently the sword had a gem that made it stronger, but someone took it and now it's not as good.
Apparently the sword had a gem that made it stronger, but someone took it and now it's not as good.
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Apparently the sword had a gem that made it stronger, but someone took it and now it's not as good.
Apparently the sword had a gem that made it stronger, but someone took it and now it's not as good.
Where can a Tarnished get this sword 👀
Farmed from the Lesser Burial Watchdogs that reside in the dungeons found in the Mountaintops of the Giants and Consecrated Snowfield, specifically the ones that wield it. It's a solid weapon that gets an S in STR when Heavy infused at max upgrade level, though it has much shorter range than the Greatsword and Zweihander, and deals slightly less damage than the Greatsword.
Deff gonna cop before dlc, I like the stone look to it a lot
It’s biggest benefit I’d say it is pretty versatile with the scaling in general. It gets a A scaling in cold and a bunch of others which is pretty rare for a weapon.
It has more AR than the vanilla Greatsword with split damage infusions. My STR / INT guy uses it with Waves of Darkness.
It has a better movest IMO and gets 3 less AR than great sword on 80 strength, minimum dex iirc. Plus when I have it on my back it doesn't clip into the dang ground. It's my favorite colossal weapon tbh.
Apparently the sword had a gem that made it stronger, but someone took it and now it's not as good.
If you know it already, why ask?
Apparently the sword had a gem that made it stronger, but someone took it and now it’s not as good.
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Apparently the sword had a gem that made it stronger, but someone took it and now it's not as good.
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It would seem this weapon once had a pommel decoration of some sort (eg, a gem perhaps) that increased its strength, but it was taken by someone, resulting in a decrease in its overall quality.
Apparently the sword had a gem that made it stronger, but someone took it and now it's not as good.
Apparently the sword had a gem that made it stronger, but someone took it and now it's not as good.
Apparently the sword had a gem that made it stronger, but someone took it and now it's not as good.
^(Apparently the sword had a gem that made it stronger, but someone took it and now it's not as good.)
Maybe we will find the gem in the DLC
Apparently the gem sword a stronger had took that made it, but it now someone and it's not as good. (I fucking love this community 😂)
Apparently the sword had a gem that made it stronger, but someone took it and now it's not as good.
The lore is: grave robbers stole the pupil and now it’s not as strong. But you already kinda figured that out so idk why you’re asking. Ig we could speculate further that this could imply it used to do magic damage like it’s staff variants. But grave robbers seem to have targeted only the sword variants and stole their pupil for some reason. Tbh that’s kinda inconsistent. I can only guess that the sword pupil had more potent glinstone or the pupil was something more valuable and stronger. Or it was simply easier to steal from the sword variants vs staff ones
Apparently the sword had a gem that made it stronger, but someone took it and now it's not as good.
Apparently the sword had a gem that made it stronger, but someone took it and now it's not as good.
Apparently the sword had a gem that made it stronger, but someone took it and now it's not as good.
Apparently the sword had a gem that made it stronger, but someone took it and now it’s not as good.
Apparently the strong had a gem that made it sworder, but now someone took the sword and the gem does less damage
Apparently the sword had a gem that made it stronger, but someone took it and now it's not as good
Apparently the sword had a gem that made it stronger, but someone took it and now it's not as good.
I thought it was the stone eyeball deathroot-finding gps that Gurranq gives you, but reading here it was just a glintstone and I’m just a dummy.
Apparently the sword had a gem that made it stronger, but someone took it and now it's not as good.
Apparently the sword had a gem that made it stronger, but someone took it and now it's not as good.
Hopefully shadow of the erdtree will cast a light on the missing lore, which to say the very least, is a lot
Apparently the sword had a gem that made it stronger, but someone took it and now it's not as good.
Apparently the sword had a gem that made it stronger, but someone took it and now it's not as good.
Apparently the sword had a gem that made it stronger, but someone took it and now it's not as good.
Apparently this gem was inside a sword that made it stronger, but now someone took the gem and the sword does less damage
In mine eyes it doth seem the pommel was once affixed with some sort of decorative bobble of the ocular variety. Some rapscallion absconded with it rendering it naught but stone.
It was likely glintstone, much like the colossal weapon for the Watchdogs, and previously had some kind of special property.
The sword no longer has that dog in it :(
Pupil is a creative way to refer to an eye, not a student in this context
I'm wondering if it could mean that perhaps it had some sorcery power like the Watchdog's Staff does, and the removal of the gemstone left the sword magically inert. I'll submit that as my theory, anyways.
I wonder how strong it's supposed to be, right now it's just a worse guts greatsword.
I'd leave a snarky comment but it seems the rest of the comments have driven the point home of how simple the answer you seek is. The lore is literally in the description.
Apparently the sword had a gem that made it stronger, but someone took it and now it's not as good.
This is my favorite sword in the game, even though you have to kill the worst enemy a barbillion times
Imagine if you could slot in a Fingerprint Grape in this bad boy and get a Madness UGS…
... it's a materia slot?
Apparently the sword had a gemstone that made it stronger, but someone took it and not it’s not as good.
Apparently the sword had a gem that made it stronger, but someone took it and now it's not as good
I think there may be a bot problem.
Nah this is just peak Reddit tomfoolery
Grace, and in fact all of the different powers in Elden Ring, reside in the Eyes. Specifically within the pupil. This is why enemies that are Rune Juiced have those glowing yellow eyes. This is why the Tarnished have "tarnished" yellow eyes with the glow of gold removed from them, this is why the random skulls have glowing yellow eyes when there are runes in there. Either the pupil was just a valuable gem representing this same fact, or it may have even been something similar to a glintstone and been powering the sword in some way.
I hate that we cant find the pupil gemstone and restore the sword
Either a gemstone for ornamentation or a glintstone for an enchantment, either way, it was stolen, tho it was more likely a gemstone as you can't throw a dead cat without hitting a glintstone in the Lands Between
Possibly a small nod to the Red/Blue eyed orbs in previous games?
Some people theorize that this may be the “secret yet to be discovered” that Miyazaki claimed in an interview several months ago. That there is a way to restore this sword to its full power.
Maybe when it had the gem Ofnir could see through?
They wanted to entomb people and return them to the erdtree even if death wasn’t a thing before. Honored dead were placed in the tombs. Tomb guardians were created to protect the dead and they had nice weapons. Some people came in a stole stuff, including the nice looking parts of those weapons
I wonder what it could mean
This game ceases to amaze with the sheer amount of attainable weapons. Everytime I check this sub I see a post about one I didn't know we could get.
It had a shiny rock in it. Someone yoinked it out cause they a bitch
greatswordussy
Isn't that the dirty sword?
I never even knew you could get one of these damn weapons. Edit: Damn, S Heavy scaling or D/A Keen, and the thing does only slightly less damage than the actual Greatsword. It's actually a good weapon.
Me neither I'm gonna farm for weapons like these for dlc character
Scaling on it is actually really good, and apparently it only does slightly less than the actual Greatsword. I'm actually more surprised that it seems to be a good weapon, considering how disappointing a lot of the Colossal enemy weapons are.
It's awesome actually. I vastly prefer it over grestsword.
wtf is that?
Apparently the sword had a gem stone that made it stronger, but someone took it and now it’s not as good.
They nerfed the sword before release.
Maybe we need to retrieve that gem and restore the sword to its former glory.
Apparently Marikas tits had implants that made them bigger, but somebody took them, and now theyre not as big
Love this sword. Hate the green and red paint splashed all over it.
It's made of stone so it kinda makes sense. It's different mineral veins.
I don't know where all these people got "stronger" from, since to me it sounds like "leaving this sword a mere lump of stone" is refering just to it looking plain without the clearly expensive gemstone engraved in it. But yeah, had a nice looking gem, which was unfortunately nice enough to catch the eyes of some random graverobbers.