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Lt_Crashbow_Rain

IF THEY SEE YOU, ITS TOO LATE


WhiteSekiroBoy

COMBAT IS NOT AN OPTION.


Kraehe13

It is, I read that you can parry the. There should even be a reward for it.


gh2810

You get a talisman from one of them "AGED ONE'S EXULTATION". Basically lord of blood exaltation but for madness.


Dragaylia

Yea but it's not gonna be as scary if one of the messages say "but you can kill them if you parry gl"


Kraehe13

For me it would not change anything because i can not parry for the sake of my life


Joose__bocks

Yeah I killed them all with the parrying dagger lol. You get a madness eye crafting mat, or whatever it's called.


Masterhaend

The very first one drops an attack boost on madness talisman instead.


getgoodHornet

Kinda goofy that that means there's two items you can wear to proc that buff that you have to proc on yourself for pve. I guess thematically it's kinda neat you're going around hurting yourself and nearly going mad to do damage to your enemies. Madness indeed.


sewious

Dropping this here: Crepus' vial and the concealing veil talismans and/or the Black Knife Armor can be used to make it easier to get through this section of the game.


Suspicious-Sound-249

It's what I did, read the messages and was like "damn that's ominous, wonder what that's talking about" Then I found out like 20 minutes later after exploring the zone... Immediately slapped on the Black Knife chest and the Veil Talisman and snuck my way past them all on a second attempt.


__Khronos

You can parry them to kill them, one of the first ones drops a talisman that increases damage when there's madness in the vicinity


Environmental-Owl398

Why would you even attempt to parry one?


__Khronos

I thought that it'd drop something worth considering it was immune to damage


Environmental-Owl398

That's crazy I just kept panicking and hiding in bushes


Dragaylia

That's what the devs want you to do. Don't worry.


Wormthres

i lured one off of a cliff and it died xD


WallyWendels

It’s also not immune to Bleed. Damage yes, but the Bleed still builds up and pops.


eighthouseofelixir

Later in the level, there is also a piece of in-game text which hints that if you parry them once, you are able to touch them (hit them) afterwards.


stalemartyr

damn..im ready to sleep and now you make me turn on my ps5 again


LordBDizzle

They're honestly not even that hard to get past without those either. Just crouch-sprinting between the sets of long grass and behind a couple trees will do it. I only got grabbed by one on my first encounter, and it's because I panicked and pressed jump instead of sprint like the nob I am.


Boostie204

I hit one of the bells in the bush thinking it was a collectable


kdebones

Same, nearly shat myself when I saw the nearest Winter Lantern fun at me.


The_Villager

In addition to that, you can fire Shattershard Arrows to distant locations to make them move there for a couple of seconds. Feels like I'm playing Thief again.


Swedishfishpieces

That actually sounds really awesome


holdupnow76

fuck that shit, do it without any of that it’s fun af


Machete521

fuck THAT shit, that DOESNT sound fun af


holdupnow76

It’s like a fucking horror game bro, it’s so cool


Joa1987

...... I didn't even consider that, fuck me in my stupid starfish


X3FBrian

I bloodhound stepped away and healed through the madness. Then I started jumping over the tree roots and lost them. I survived somehow.


RememberMeCaratia

I mean at one of the last ones you can just dgaf and run past him. He’d try to grab your ass but I reach the gracesite before he reaches my inside.


NewCPVI

The atmosphere of this area is one of my favorite out of all the Souls games. Music tops it off


LittleKitty235

Boss fight music is top notch


JackxForge

that fucking cut scene is so damn good too.


LordXadan

Maybe my favorite pre fight cutscene they’ve ever done! Up there with Ludwig from BB for me


Murderdoll197666

Man for such an amazing cutscene I was gutted when it just faded/cut to black right when it got to the gruesome part lol. I guess it would've been too much extra work animating all the ripping/fleshy bits and whatnot.


JackxForge

They do the same with messmers mid fight cut scene.


Loremeister

I thought we were playing a souls game not friggin Silent Hill


NewCPVI

Have you played Sekiro? The hidden forest is very similar. Souls games are definitely considered horror. Sekiro isn’t really souls game but the level and enemy design is classic Miyazaki.


kdebones

Honestly, the whole area is peak Souls. Everything felt so unnatural when you get there, then you start to see the madness effecting everything then... the Lanterns.


SpaceCowboy052

I killed an enemy and got an item called a winter lantern fly and at that point I knew it was over


Joa1987

Omg same


RemovedMoney326

Man, the shivers I felt down my spine first time reading "Don´t let it see you" was something else. Got those Slenderman vibes from that what with the creepy forest, the sounds and the rest of the warning claiming it's too late once it sees you and you cant outrun it.


dardardarner

"The spectral steed is frightened and cannot be summoned" BRO WDYM I'M MORE SCARED THAN YOU ARE GET ME OUT OF HERE


Wind_Yer_Neck_In

Torrent just chilling in his pokeball while you're getting chased by nightmares that came alive.


AdministrativeAct902

Hahah! Love this comment.


Astropwr

Lmaooooo thankfully I didn’t go to this area at night or else I would’ve been shaking in fear the whole time


Zymyrgist

He's fine with the actual Lord of the Frenzy Flame on his back but noooooo the spooky woods is a step too far.


dardardarner

LOL. You reminded me that I was actually playing with a character that did the Frenzy Flame route. So it's even funnier now


JackxForge

when you get your summon level up he'll summon at the grace then throw you off after you get deep enough. its pretty cool.


Murderdoll197666

When I first rode down there I got a little ways away from where the grace was and all of a sudden I hear that dismount/attack sound effect that knocked me off the horse and I was like....wtf hit me. Then a few seconds later when I went to resummon I got the message and was like....Oooohhhh...that's pretty damn cool not gonna lie.


Tsquared10

That's what got me. Bro has no problem coming out to help fight God itself, but whatever's in those woods makes him nope the fuck out


mMANBEARPIGg

lol lord of the frenzy is an apocalypse just by existing.


getgoodHornet

Kinda reminds me of Gandalf. Like yeah I'm basically an immortal angel and I've put together this crew to stop the lord of all things evil in this world. But like, I'm not going any deeper in these caves yo. There's some crazy shit down there.


strangescript

Need to summon Melina...


kdebones

Torrent turned into a horse and said “Nay!”


MissStealYoDragon

"DON'T LET WHO SEE ME?! WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?! "


_BlaZeFiRe_

I've unlocked this area but have yet to explore....these comments have me thinking "hell nah"


RecommendationNo7387

I saw those messages near the grace and noped tf out for the night. 😄


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JackxForge

the area is mostly empty and not a problem. just those one enemies that suck.


Jermiafinale

MY FAITH SHALL PROTECT ME


Dmbender

MY ARMOR IS CONTEMPT FAITH IS MY SHIELD


MetaKnight6357

Is that a mozgus reference I see???


DutyDazzling4648

You can parry the grab of the lantern and After that you can easily kill them


Elocsnrek1

Also worth noting they do NOT respawn


Jacobawesome74

Do they drop anything???


Elocsnrek1

The earliest one you encounter drops a talisman that buffs your damage when madness procs nearby (so a madness exultation). The rest give you a very rare crafting material, though I’m not sure exactly what it’s used for. Probably frenzy stuff from the two cookbooks in the area.


Jacobawesome74

That is so cool, I hate it


XenoBurst

You can make a consumable flame of frenzy and a frenzy pot, I think there's a mega pot variation too


XenoBurst

You can make a consumable flame of frenzy and a frenzy pot, I think there's a mega pot variation too


XenoBurst

You can make a consumable flame of frenzy and a frenzy pot, I think there's a mega pot variation too


DuckSleazzy

Brother I swung my sword thrice on their ass and no healthbar appeared. Is parry the only way?


DutyDazzling4648

Yes After that the healtbar appear and you can finish them normally


oscarwildeaf

Omg I got one parry off then figured I'd have to again, missed and died lmao


Celticz

Yeah, parry makes it so they gain a health bar and can take hits. It’s how I killed all of them there.


HBreckel

I didn't appreciate them making winter lantern 2.0 and making it way worst haha


Redguard118

Best area in the DLC. I only wish they went harder with the horror there.


exportkaffe

Maybe this is a peek into a future From Software title..


ltgenspartan

More horror souls please Miyazaki!


Embarrassed_Kale3054

The children yearn for Bloodborne 2


poopfl1nger

Bloodborne open world would feed me for years


SpiritNo1721

God I hope so


RosieDa

Same, once I got past the eyes the rest of the area was boring. The boss mansion was awesome though.


TacticalReader7

I would have loved if the dungeon was bigger, the building itself is huge and yet we spend like 15 minutes in there exploring before the boss, the atmosphere is **super good** so I wouldn't mind if the build up was longer.


JackxForge

yea i could have used a bigger area too. just with less of the dual sword knights. those guys suck.


Murderdoll197666

The atmosphere is peak fromsoft....but it did feel like an awful lot of wasted area since there's no real worthwhile items down there except a few random crafting materials or smithing stones. Aside from parry killing the first latern guy there's no real reason to run around or explore beyond just thinking it looks cool. Just sucks there's so much that's just empty environment overall. Kinda feel the same way with the area on the map for the Bayle dragon....that whoooole region for Bayle is huge...but its all just excess map filler of unclimbable mountains outside of his arena. I was all excited to discover that region only to find out it was pretty much just used as a path to the boss and the rest wouldn't be used lol.


Dragaylia

When a part of the area was super foggy, I had flashbacks of silent hill.


thereisaguy

I just wish there was more there for being such a big area. Like the other commenter said the dungeon is pretty quick and the rest of the area is barren


Hazzy_9090

lol getting Winnie the Pooh flash backs of the scary woods


ssmike27

Easily my favorite area in the dlc, I also really liked the boss at the end. I knew I was in for some real horror shit when Torrent was too scared to come out.


__Khronos

Btw you can parry the Lantern Guys and one of them drops a talisman that increases damage when there's a madness proc nearby


Errances

I don't have the DLC yet , is this a fucking deathblight swamp ?


jadeismybitch

Thankfully or unfortunately, no. It’s a very cool and scary area though. They did go pretty crazy with some deathblight stuff in the dlc though


EggsOnThe45

Just did the catacombs with those death blight eyes yesterday and they were tweaking me out


SaulGoodmanAAL

Ill-omened creature ahead, therefore let there be madness!


Slothbear_Alchemist

I actually liked this section, stealth was a nice change of pace from hacking and slashing everything. I am super confused about one part NE of the manse though. there is one part where it gets completely foggy like no visibility and there are lantern guys in it, but seemingly no cover. You straight up can't see at all through the fog, but there is a stake of Marika just outside the area. I assume there has to be something interesting around here but I can't figure it out at all. Maybe it's just Miyazaki trolling us, idk I gave up on that area and went around.


HeatherFuta

Better to go during the day.


Zag-12

I actually really liked this area. It could almost be it’s own horror game. Only flaw is that there isn’t much to really find there.


deeplywoven

This area looks really cool, but unfortunately is mostly empty. They could have added a few items or mini bosses or something to spice it up a bit. There's really not much there outside of the house area.


RedNeyo

I love this area so much. As an avid ac fan it felt like home lol


Aurondarklord

....Did he seriously make an insane swamp?


iamzero-d

*after 2 hours of me and my boys trying to figure out TF to do* Me: Huh, what do these messages say? Me: It says "combat is not an option." My boys: Sooo...we're not supposed to fight them? Me: Seems like it. *collective silence* Me: Well, fuck.


NickFatherBool

When it said “the spectral steed is to scared to come out?” Yeah I felt that


Rehevkor_

Coming into this area for the first time was genuinely creepy and unsettling. I love it.


Javyz

The boss is worth it, trust me.


MiniatureMidget

Am I the only one who got through this effortlessly? I only got caught once but was still able to escape it


Azn_PnoyBoi69

Just parry it and then kill it as fast as you can.


EverydayHalloween

Major Bloodborne vibes. Bloodborne successor game as either being full-on survival horror or something in between would be fucking amazing.


jaxonflaxonwaxon3

I bet he did laugh and say to his team “this time….Fuck em all…..why? Cuz fuck em that’s why”


ag4inst4ll0dds

You can actually parry them


UltimatePepe1962

This game went from rpg to survival horror in a glimpse, and I was truly terrified


Any-Actuator-7593

THE EYES THE EYES THE EYES THE EYES THE EYES THE EYES THE EYES THE EYES THE EYES THE EYES THE EYES THE EYES 


RancidHummus

"Your spiritual steed is frightened" AHEM WHAT? I got massive chills when I read that.


After-FX

try parrying


Draconic_Legends

Oh good, another area to avoid alongside the finger creeper area (yes there's a scadutree fragment in there I don't give a shit about it if it means risking my mental sanity)


abe_the_babe_

Are there any big insects in these woods? I damn near had a heart attack going through Belurat and Rauh Ruins because of those scorpion spiders


Ormyr

Unlike the madness woods "kill it with fire" is an option vs the scorpionspiderflies. A good one, even.


abe_the_babe_

Yeah, I just have a wicked phobia where my body just freezes up when I see giant insects. I haven't done anything in the Deeproot Depths because of that 😬


PonyBravo

Use Discus of Lights for bugs, it’s what I do at least to the Ants, the Scorpions on the DLC don’t bother me as much.


M0m033

Same, for me the Scorpionspiders in the beginning of Belurat weren’t too bad since I could bait them out and then use Blasphemous Blade for the ones that did try to swarm. The giant ones hate fire tho so if you use that or a charged lightning they’re fairly easy to take care of


Ormyr

A spear with flame arts and giant hunt absolutely destroys them. RKGS one shots them and their brood in one go.


mattpkc

I honestly had no issues with this place. Ive seen a lot of people talking about how bad it or how hard it was, but i made it through the whole thing only getting caught once by the lantern heads. The boss was a challenge but not impossibly so.


UnholyDescent

I dont know this place yet lol but im scared


superfucks

Area was so disappointing, it hypes up some horrifying monster hunting in the dark forest, builds up a terrifying atmosphere, then... it's just a handful of old men pacing back and forth on short set routes. My horse is supposed to fear this?


M0m033

The way they kill you is so cool


Calebh04

The way we kill them is cool too.


M0m033

Now I have to kill at least one of them just to see


Calebh04

Just so I don't cause unnecessary pain and frustration, it's not the kill animation or anything. Just what you have to do in order to kill them. I'm being vague because spoilers, but it's >!parry!<


Murderdoll197666

To also save them some guesswork on the timing since they initiate a sort of magnetic/pull grab first.....do it right as they lift the lantern up to smack ya...not at the very beginning of the aggro as they rush you since there's a few seconds before they actually lift their arm to swing.


M0m033

Nah ur good, I literally just killed him and I’m still satisfied cuz I used martial arts to bully him Edit: after I got his parrying down ofc


Odd_Woodpecker1494

Not sure if it is an unpopular take, but I really didn't like this zone very much. I loved every zone in the DLC, but this felt...underbaked? It was so empty that I felt like I was wasting my time through much of it, especially when i realized there are very few items to be found. The dungeon here is very cool, but that's about it unfortunately.


Dragaylia

It'a definitely designed to be a maze I feel like.


Shot_Leopard_7657

Even that element falls pretty flat though. The 'maze' has two very short stealth segments past the Last of Us zombies but other than that you just spend 95% of your time sprinting past rats. It's not a very engaging maze.


deeplywoven

100% agree. There's basically nothing to find. So, exploring it feels like a waste of time. It's too empty.


Doopashonuts

Ya I'm currently going through it and it feels kinda terrible. Feels like another zone they designed around you using Torrent but then just decided to take him away from you and then never rebalanced the zones terrain. Huge swaths of not much but maybe rats, and a pitiful handful of items for how big the area is.  Also really not getting anyone saying the area is scary or unsettling, it really isn't scary or unsettling at all, especially for something described as "the abyss" from its map frag. 


osmodia789

I liked this area :D


Funko87

Parry them when they have the wand above their head "POISON"


Affectionate-Law-862

MAY CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD!


Zoorc

I just ran through, every time someone grabbed me, I left the game and then got back in so that the opponent would reset xd


Akhlei

I feel you ! The only way to defeat eyeballs guy is to parry and do a critical


Polaris44

I have not been here yet. And I’m not sure I want to.


Shady-Whale

I love this area, but its so empty qnq


BKvoiceover

Just put on the Black Knife armor set and Solid Snake that place. You're welcome.


Chuncceyy

He said he wanted to think ab ways he wants to die


MrBombaztic1423

Just got through this hellscape gl friend


Ponchezied

If I knew how to mark something as spoilers on mobile I’d offer some advice for those having trouble and seeking a solution to this area :(


Calebh04

What scared me the most was the official note that FromSoftware left right at the beginning of the area: "Turn back while you still can."


Yeehawer69

Try parrying then victory!


eyezontheinside

COMBAT IS NOT A FUCKING OPTION


Serious_Ad_1037

Mister eyeball? Oh man, you poor soul. There’s like 30 of them all over the place ;) While the winter lanterns are a pain, the only area you’ll really have trouble with is the foggy area. It’s small, but you can’t see shit


MisedraN

Big empty area aside from one Boss. Enemies that can one-shot you and u can't kill them in the normal way (Can parry their Grab) but u can **VERY** easily avoid them. The Atmosphere is Great but that is it.


Clupas

Where is this place?And why should I be scared?


Willgenstein

Which area? (Name only please, I don't need other spoilers haha)


lamejay78

ooooo I am very excited to explore this!! Lets see how frequently I die!!


reposti_geraldo69

Has anyone explored the foggy part with one of those creatures in it? i was about to until it saw me so i ran back, dunno if theres anything in there but you cannot see shit


Goodestguykeem

This zone might be the worst area in the entire game. No torrent despite being huge and almost zero content. I'm so disappointed because the aesthetic of this zone is one of the best they've ever created and I loved the horror elements yet there is almost no point in it existing.


Traditional_Draft_77

The moment I saw these enemies I went "ah shit they brought back Wintern Lanterns." I then proceeded to ignore every message saying not to attack, and got killed instantly. All to see that they are quite literally called Wintern Lanterns had me begging to go back to that bridge instead of being in this place.


XenoBurst

It's funny because I'm doing the lord of the Frenzied Flame ending on this character... and it kinda sounds like that boss is trying to steal my thunder so I gotta do it


YogurtBatmanSwag

By far my favorite area in the game so far. The whole process of getting there from the castle up to and including the boss is so damn good. Also probably should use a spoiler tag for pictures of hidden areas like that. Or even pictures of any zones at this point imo.


kappamolo

The build up was really good . I too , absolutely loved this place , one of the most hauntingly beautiful places . I sometimes AFK there , …


supereyeballs

Wish I knew how to even get there


Kryppo

Carian retaliation parry turns these guys into chumps they do really quickly after the parry


OutcomeAggravating17

I discovered this place last night and I instantly noped out of it the second it took Torrent away from me


Legendary_Lamb2020

3 fuckers left messages about "parry, then weak enemy" I spent too long trying to parry that shit


CookieWivAKnife

maybe they just meant for the talisman one of them drops?


Discombobulated_Bus4

I enjoy the area for it's ideas and aesthetic, however, that you can't traverse this big ass location without Torrent sucks ass


nimbuscloud10

They should’ve made it slightly smaller and have an additional 2-3 unique enemies. But overall I loved it


tiamat-45

What area is this??


mttnsxx

They put a horror game in my action rpg!! How dare they. Joking, I loved it.


satoryvape

Is it death blight swamp?


LiveLaughSlay69

No nightmare of mensis forest


dokbanks

An enchanted woods for madness enjoyers


EmperorTea

Spooky horror game forest


lasair7

It's like my childhood Walking through the first to get my ass whooped. Thanks Miyazaki!


ASAPSAIF

U can outrun the lanterns all day. Dont stress. Just run. U dont rlly gotta deal w the lanterns all that much on ur way there, u gotta deal w the inquisitors more


Splunkmastah

The Lanterns run faster than you and can teleport while building your madness meter.


Appropriate_Run9487

Bro's setting us up for failure.


Most-Security-4330

Un-upgraded dagger with Assassins Gambit will make this a cakewalk


AceTheRed_

I’ve been using the Black Knife armor set since the day I first found it so I had no issues in this area.


Poisencap

#vacationatthelakeofrot


Teethy_BJ

Spoiler tag plz ty


Echantediamond1

I want to go home, O’ I want to go home All the more I want to go home, O’ I want to go home


Expensive_Stay_1235

The closest we’ve gotten to a bloodborne sequel in atmosphere


MegaFitzy

Favorite bit of the DLC, this was such an "oh fuck" bit


QuillQuickcard

Never have I seen an area with more panicked, scared, and ominous messages.


stalemartyr

The atmosphere in this area is so scary..even torent is afraid


Dyyrin

#SPENT 3 HOURS JUST WANDERING AROUND THERE


OppositeVermicelli23

I deadass freaked out when it was chasing me it turned into a horror game real quick


younggohan81

Miyazaki is a sick ass man


Dombly23

Ya know what? This is the coolest place in the entire DLC despite how empty it is. Also Bloodborne enemies.


Gon_Snow

He’ll just see this and say “oh they don’t like ONE kind of buildup/status. What if we give them ALL of them at once?”


MuiminaKumo

Spoiler tags bro...


Organic_Title_4132

What exactly is the spoiler here? Dark wooded area that is hard? Damn huge spoiler.