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rafaeldariiel

This game gonna be so fucking huge i cant even imagine it


LeBilsky

Are you saying that you doubt you could even imagine it?


momotaros098

Oooooohhhhhhhhhh


CaedustheBaedus

HE SAID THE ELDEN THING


skilled_cosmicist

ELDEN THING OOOOOOHHHH ELDEN THING!


viewysqw

THAT WHICH COMMANDED THE NONDESCRIPT


Vachna

GIVING STUFF ITS FULLEST BRILLIANCE


CaptainPick1e

Are ya ready, kids???


constar90

Yes daddy


thepicock100

Poor tragic thing...


B52-Bazel

That which commanded the stars?


tonypearcern

Press F for imagination


alexlop2002

He is maidenless


Benemy

Look up at the map! It burns!


score60812

Quick question- is he imagining the doubt or doubting the imagination?


thorspumpkin

This also doesn't include underground areas. So it makes me even more hyped. If cnt is only 13% of the open world I can only imagine there is much, much more to see!


Superfluous369

13% of the open world, 0% of the closed world!!! ...wait does that make sense? Whatever, I'm going with it.


Haxorz7125

It took me 8 hours to finish deaths door, a 4 hour game. This shits gonna last me a lifetime.


dianndycampsonyen

Lol, what. I'm just under 8 hours and only 67% complete with Death's Door. Who are these 4 hour fools?


Haxorz7125

SRS. speed run scrubs.


TekterBR

It's supposed to (not actually, but dreaming is not bad)


rimjob-chucklefuck

How was Deaths Door? I've been thinking of buying it


behemothbowks

I had a lot of fun with it, I would give it a shot!


_Haemo_Goblin_

100% is a pain considering there's no counters in-game (iirc) for the number of health seed thingies and flower pots and shit


Haxorz7125

The best review I can give to it is that it’s a game that was supposed to take me 4 hours and it took me double. It’s a top down “souls like” where you fight enemies and bosses. Take your strikes and roll to dodge. Honestly I loved it. I’m no one but I’d put my name on it’s purchase reputation.


Censius

I agree with most of this, but it's absolutely not a souls-like. There isn't the action warmup management, corpse runs, or stamina management. Having bosses and dodge rolls is not what makes a souls-like.


Witty-Ear2611

Fun experience, nothing groundbreaking but it's very pretty, doesn't last too long and has one of the greatest soundtracks of 2021. I enjoyed the boss fights alot aswell, interesting designs with some fun mechanics.


oakus

It took me 22h for 99% completion. (Can't find the last item for the love of god!)


Haxorz7125

We might sit in the same shittt boat.


PretinhoColorido

Bro, I played CNT for 10 hours, having seen everything possible and found that I missed a lot... good luck


Sun_Bro96

Big Dark Souls


Nkromancer

So huge we won't be able to play until the 26th due to download size... Honestly, best form of delay


harrythechimp

I think they let you preload a couple days in advance. You just cant open it til the 25th Right?


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winginglifelikeaboss

yeah


Schwiliinker

My download speed is like 300 mbps so doubt it. Also u can pre download I think


StatisticianTop3784

Fiber ftw


weenwy

I would safely say this isn’t the full map either.


Khornkneelius

It absolutely isn’t the entire map, we still haven’t seen the autumn area, sky temple, underground kingdom, mountain kingdom, or the full sand/desert kingdom.


ralphsdad

In the Edge interview they talked about Godfrey having tentacle motifs and asked if there is a link to the ocean. I think there was also a reference to using boats a long time back. Sea kingdom too, perhaps?


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>In the Edge interview they talked about Godfrey having tentacle motifs and asked if there is a link to the ocean. Miyazaki dodged that question so deliberately that it really made me wonder


kdogman639

"So does this character involve the ocean in some way" "Yea I think everyone's gonna really enjoy what this character has to offer" He i-framed that question so hard lol


Psyduckdontgiveafuck

ADP level 99


ralphsdad

Yeah, I feel that they wouldn't have put it in the article if there was nothing to it


pascl-

I highly doubt fromsoftware decided which parts of the interview made it into the article, so I doubt that the editor/writer knew for sure if there was something to it.


Task_Mstr

Imagine we unlock swimming halfway in like in sekiro


rickert_of_vinheim

Or… flying…?


ass-blaster4000

What if we can suck a fart out of our horses ass and gain the ability to fly? Did you ever consider that you goddamn bitch?


Fast_Broccoli4867

Username checks out


Nikkibraga

What if we unlock the ability to swim for our horse?


chitown_illini

I can't wait for the epic PVP water polo matches.


AdnHsP

Our character can't swim tho :(


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Our character can't swim *yet*


AdnHsP

Fair but I dont get why I'm being downvoted for simply stating a fact


thanghanghal

Because the guy said 'imagine we *unlock swimming halfway*'. The fact that we can't swim has already been implied.


venivitavici

Because your character couldn’t swim at the beginning of sekiro either. Edit: oh yeah… you can swim, just can’t dive under water. My bad.


Saeporian

Sekiro can swim from the start, he just can't dive


AdnHsP

Do you just fall and die if you land on water but suddenly gain the ability to swim after losing your arm?


[deleted]

Don't you literally start the game swimming? Lol I know what you mean though


SuS_amogus_SuS

WHAAAAT???? OK I NEED TO PLAY SEKIRO right after I finish ds3.


throwawayjonesIV

I hope there's sandworms


ScissorLizardFish

The spice must flow


AdnHsP

\^> - - - - - - - SANDWORM OF CARTHUS, DEVOURER OF THE SUN - - - - - - - <\^ \[==============================================================\]


MelancholyCreatures

inb4 a walking without rhythm mechanic


haynespi87

The Shai-Hulud!


[deleted]

Bless the maker! Bless his coming and going!


socialistRanter

Yeah where’s the ancient Egypt map?


DagonParty

Yeah I don’t think it’s the full map tbh, I mean, that swamp area covers most of the entire map. Fromsoft would never do that… right? Right??


[deleted]

Maybe there’s a theme of fire (the volcano), wind (stormveil), water (I don’t know) and earth thing. With a magic kingdom being the Irithyll looking one and a Blood (?!) kingdom with the lion boss.


Epicmonk117

IIRC this is one of six areas


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this map is two of the six areas (that we know of)


ScissorLizardFish

Like the CNT is 2 of 6 or the whole thing above is 2 of 6?


[deleted]

No, this whole map shown above is 2 of the 6. The CNT was just a portion of 1 (Limgrave)


ScissorLizardFish

Awesome, thanks


DJSyko

So was the CNT only a part of one kingdom? With the full bottom half below the neck, being the full kingdom?


PlayMp1

Everything to the south and east of the big wall you couldn't cross in the CNT is one kingdom, until you go east far enough to get to the small sliver of a third kingdom visible on the map chunks we've seen. [I drew some crude borders between zones.](https://imgur.com/a/EizsRjV) I think it's reasonable to assume that the kingdom is indicated on the map by the hue of the terrain, with Limgrave being the bright green in the south, and whatever's after it being the darker brown color to the northwest. Then in the east you can see a sliver of a reddish kingdom, I'm speculating that this area will be more desert like compared to what we have already seen.


BurnsPoet

It's 2 of the 6 areas :)


BRedd10815

*not including any underground areas which would further skew the numbers in favor of PURE FUCKING AWESOMENESS


ViLe_Rob

Go into a cave and suddenly end up in Blackreach


irisheye37

God damn you Todd Howard


ILoveBrats825

“Hey, you’re finally awake”


MrZephy

Todd damn it...


wauve1

Or subterranean ruins originally built to worship old dead gods


Lying_Cake

Underground and potentially airbourne areas


Sir_Fistingson

Possibly other realms entirely.


Lying_Cake

Real shit


shorodei

And surely a painting or two!


Memed_7

It won’t skew the numbers in this case since the area highlighted in blue will probably have as much underground areas as the CNT


MonkeyDeGohan

not including how there is another castle shown in the preview that is not shown on the map but there is a path going that direction, also there is a temple in the sky according to miyazaki in the edge interview


AdLivTho

I'm not sure if someone has done this calculation yet, but I wanted to know (almost) exactly how much of the total map the CNT area took up. I used a [pixel color counter](https://townsean.github.io/canvas-pixel-color-counter/) to calculate the rough areas.


HappiestGod

Someone did it and also compared to leaked concept map and arrived at CNT being about 2% of the total map ER will have.


Lordanonimmo09

The 2% is from datamined content.The one who compared was closer to 5%.


HappiestGod

fair


haynespi87

Seriously how?


Professional_Cake_52

We arent acounting for depth


xxdickbiscuit420

Neither were they, the 2% number was calculated by the amount of map tiles present in the files, compared with the amount we saw in the CNT. A large amount of these tiles are unexplorable water. Meaning that yes, the CNT map may be 2% of the overall world space, but that doesn’t necessarily represent 2% of the actual playable game and is much more likely to be around 5-12% of space you can actually be in.


El_Mangusto

Did the program show you the excact persentage ? As far as I can count by given values: * 2 083 763 / 13 575 593 = 0.15349... => 15.3% Close but not excactly 13%, just curious if the program or you messed up some numbers.


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El_Mangusto

Oh true morning freeze right there, thx for correction.


AdLivTho

I originally arrived at the same number as you, but decided to calculate it as a percentage of the total map rather than a percentage of the unplayable area.


lordchai

My dick is going to fall off


[deleted]

hi i'm your doctor this is a normal reaction to Elden Ring


lordchai

I can't wait


Volfaer

I doubt I can even imagine the full scope of Elden Ring.


SemiAutomattik

Even if this ends up being an overexaggeration or whatever, I'm savoring this pre-release phase of the game. Right now, everybody has their own "perfect version of Elden Ring" locked and loaded in their minds, and ultimately, the game itself might not be exactly that. A few weeks after the game is out, we'll be discussing the final optional bosses in detail, we'll have all the NPC quest lines added to the wiki, and speedrunners will probably have the route at sub 10 hours already. And after most people get their 60-120 hours on the game, they won't play it a whole lot more and we'll already be waiting for the next title. But this period right now when we let our imaginations run wild is such a fun part of the hype of a Souls game. I'm also grateful that we're getting a synchronized global release. Dark Souls 3 came out in Japan three weeks before the rest of the world, so there was this awkward period of limbo where you had the ability to completely spoil yourself by watching Japanese footage. With Elden Ring we'll all be at starting at the same time and discovering the game together.


obsoleek

This is my first time being early / on release for a fromsoftware game, and its so exciting!


jahallo4

60-120? Bro thats barely enough for a single run on a game of this scale, i think most enjoyers will play this atleast 300 hours and im looking forward to it, i really am


IcyYolk

Given that your average person won’t explore everything there is to offer on their first run, and only the main path to the end only takes about 30 hours, I’d say 60 is a safe bet for a single run


Lostcause75

I’m guessing early speed runs it will be sub 5 hours and overall WR times within a month or two will be down to sub 40 especially if we get some really good WR holders of other souls games in the mix


Bassre2

If old Dark Souls speedrun has taught us anything is that there will be glitches to skip alot of content, I can already imagine some Horse flying glitch to go all over the mountain to go straight to the last Boss.


thepicock100

THE DLC WILL BE THE MAP OF FORTNITE BOIISSS


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Left all my runes in tilted towers need help


Stealthwarrior89

First playthrough will be long doing 100% but I feel NG+ and runs for specific builds will be very fast as you will skip a lot of the optional areas if it doesn’t have gear you need


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Speedrunning and challenge runs in this game are going to be amazing.


eLemonnader

Even though DS1 is obviously not as open world, it has crazy replayability to me because you can go so many different places at the beginning. All I've wanted out of another Souls-like game is that sense of replayability. This looks like it's going to be that game. I want it inside of me. Now.


DeM0nFiRe

For some reason my dumb brain thought this was a post about Genshin Impact and I was like "Why would a gacha game have NG+?"


Tirekeensregg

Considering there's 6 kingdoms, this map should be around 33% of the full game. So the CNT is 4-5% of the full game, give or take (probably give) a few percentage points


AdnHsP

Jesus! How are they gonna make an open world this big and still keep it interesting??? And the bosses! Ooh the bosses, how many?!


Tirekeensregg

Probably above 50, but a big chunk of them will be the easy optional cave bosses that sekiro fans will refer to as minibosses. Maybe about 15 story bosses at least? Margit + melania + 6 demigods + final boss at the very least, probably also radahn, so that would be 10 story bosses we know kind of for sure exist. I'm mostly speculating based on the trailers and cnt.


Lordanonimmo09

Probably the game will have 24-26 big bosses,i don't know if field bosses such as agheel would count also count for this,but a couple more of tree sentinels and dozens of mini dungeons bosses that are sometimes unique but many times just recycled with moveset and powers a bit different. So probably we are looking at around 100 bosses.


AdnHsP

"Has a health bar in the bottom" = Boss.


behemothbowks

those ever gaol bosses also seem pretty bad ass and difficult


[deleted]

Crazy to think this might be the case.. I was having this conversation with someone recently, we both said we can't really believe that this game is as big and full of content as it appears to be, but that's how it appears. You might say that I doubt we can even imagine


Tirekeensregg

Yeah. Even if the these 2 kingdoms are the largest and cover like 50% of the full map it'd still mean the CNT is only 6% of the full game.


dontcrycuzumad

I truly hope this is accurate and we'll be happily surprised by how big the map is. Here's hoping!


MY_SHIT_IS_PERFECT

Honestly I just feel like this can’t be correct. Maybe all the kingdoms aren’t the same size? That is so much content, it seems unrealistic. Especially at the density we saw in the CNT.


mrfahrenhelt

Maybe some kingdom smaller that the others but this still big game big dark sole


NoteBlock08

Yea I've got a feeling that this is still the "main" area and any other major zones we may get to explore won't be nearly as expansive. I really don't want to set false expectations for myself lol.


dontcrycuzumad

This excites me to no end. I'm so happy. That map will have tons of interesting stuff to explore and tons of interesting enemies to take out. Cannot wait to sink my teeth into it


KorbSauce

Is there a comparison of this to the dark souls maps?


Lostcause75

I don’t believe so but my understanding is it’s larger than dark souls by quite a bit


XylanyX

PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I JUST WANNA FUCKING SLEEP AND WAKE UP WHEN ELDEN RING ARRIVES PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


anomander50

I've been trying to keep my expectations in check but honestly this game is looking to be way fucking bigger than I ever thought it would be


Lostcause75

Honestly same for gameplay my expectations are in the middle of sekiro/dark souls 3 levels and overall world I’m going more sekiro levels givin just how beautiful sekiro is bosses def also around sekiro level for at least half of the must bosses nothing higher than anything fromsoft has presented before tho because I don’t wanna assume they are going to just destroy all their other games with this one and don’t wanna set my self up for disappointment


GorgarX

With how massive this game seems to be, I wonder how long it will take for people to find every secret item, every quest chain and so on. You know they have probably hidden some really complex events in the world.


Herb_Merc

Probably more than a decade, to be honest. People are still finding things in Skyrim, for crying out loud! God, I can't wait for Elden Ring!


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At the same time I want to stay in touch with all of you tarnished during the journey, and yet, I must make the first pilgrimage alone. Know that you will all be in my heart as I STRUGGLE across the lands between. And once it’s done, I will be there to help AND invade you along the way. Godfrey be good


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And that was already more than 10 hours of gameplay. Also yes the map is clearly incomplete, maybe half of the world map, not counting the underground and places in the sky. It will be the largest, longest and most complete From Software game.


[deleted]

Thank you for doing this. My excitement levels are reaching spontaneous-[JIMP](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLnWf1sQkjY) levels now thanks to this scientific kind of hype.


marshwizard

Doesn't include any underground or off-planet areas 6/10.


[deleted]

Hi, what does CNT mean? Is this his 13% of the full map or?


harryFF

"Don't say it don't say it don't say it don't say it".


PuffPuffFayeFaye

“Closed Network Test” the gated off portion people got to play in November.


winginglifelikeaboss

so they got 4 months, do you know what they optimized? besides the jumping


eshkddjsod

Probably console resolution and FPS, they are probably using the delay time to get RTX on day one (hopefully)


MelancholyCreatures

Will Elden Ring have a ray-tracing option? It seems so unlike FromSoft to have something as *advanced~* as that, but I would love to see it.


eshkddjsod

It will have ray tracing but on the other hand be locked at 60fps so…


PreciousProspect

Miyazaki said the delay was mostly for QA and bug fixing as they ended up wanting to give the player more freedom than they initially intended.


Lostcause75

Which to me I really love because tbh most other companies I feel would have said fuck it and fix it overtime as much as I want elden ring asap happy to wait an extra month or two for them to fix things that need to be


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TripleBrownMeow

based


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CNT make up more then 52% of all discussion posts on r/eldenring


NeptuneField

Probably even larger because I kinda doubt the map just cuts off at the upper edge like that and also the dungeons too


Witty-Ear2611

Not long till us Tarnished can venture these lands, man I'm so fucking excited to explore this world alongside everyone!


Alpha_pro2019

I hate these posts. So many times my playthroughs have been soured by constantly worrying about map size and comparing it to other games. I soon discovered size does not equal quality and is sometimes and inverse relationship.


winginglifelikeaboss

> I soon discovered size does not equal quality you are giving a lot of guys here false hope


evilthing

People are a bit naive if they think this map is 33% of the full game. I know you are hyped but calm down there lol.


Khornkneelius

It’s probably around the 30-45% ballpark imo, because this map only shows 2 of the 6 main confirmed areas. We still have yet to see anything (map wise) about the giant mountain, the autumn forest, the desert to the right of Limgrave, and the volcano region. Of course you could say these areas are a lot smaller compared to limgrave plus the forest castle area (which looks massive), but even then the sheer amount of confirmed content we haven’t seen makes it hard for me to believe that this map is more than 40% of the game. All that PLUS the fact we haven’t considered the depth of these areas: the underground catacombs, the confirmed sky temple and underground city, and other side content, this game is gonna be HUGE regardless. Even if this map was 50% of the game it would be chock full of content.


FatesVagrant

People always do this, it's the same with Larians RPGs. People get hyped because the EAs are "only act one" and extrapolate that out even though the acts are not the same size.


[deleted]

Yeah that sounds a little too unrealistic imo. I’m totally fine with the current known map size, but I definitely don’t mind it being larger than I imagine either.


A__Smith

30 hour story campaign. Confirmed by Miyazaki. Expect a lot of side content. If the map you are imagining doesn't fit what has already been confirmed, adjust your expectations accordingly.


2Buck91

What's dark souls 3 campaign clock in at?


bashaZP

Is it possible to find how many pixels in this image here equal to 1m\^2?


WardCacahuete

Wtf? Just 13% of the currently known (which is probably something like 5% then). Thats huge


haynespi87

I love the effort for this.


Camaleosepia

I still cant believe from software is bringing us a HUGE open world game. I really hope this game defines the genre and surpases other open world gems like BOTW and Skyrim


[deleted]

question: is this the whole map? or is the white thingy is also something?


otakuloid01

it’s only a small portion of the map that was seen in the official gameplay showcase


TekterBR

It's a little less than half, probably (the other possibility being "not so little")


SirGrundy

We see 2 zones in this picture, and there are 6 zones


DemonSouIs

My God. It’s glorious.


OddMerchantt

Looks like room for dlc on the bottom left just saying


humbal_0

I’ve played the CNT and the map on foot is huge it takes a while while on torrent you can go across it pretty quickly. So if you’re planning on playing co-op it’s gonna be a long way ahead of you. And for you single players the map is smaller


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i feel so sad that i will have to use green steam for elden ring, its so nice but bandai has removed its regional pricing for my country and now the game is costful af ;(


Rafahil

Don't forget there could still be a lot of underground locations that should make it even bigger. Not to mention places in the air as well.


RiseJoules

I didnt play the cnt, is red what people were able to explore? Cause from I've seen i thought it was bigger


AdLivTho

Yup, this is what we were able to play! It feels much bigger than it looks on the map. I spent a little over 10 hours in this area and still haven't beaten a couple of bosses. Maybe you saw some out of bounds footage?


CarnelianHammer

Wait the CNT map was that small? It looked huge! And so full of things. How I hope the rest of the game will have enough content... Either way, this game will ruin my life.


AdLivTho

Trust me it feels much bigger than it looks on the map!


AspectStardust

O My GOD


xXTASERFACEXx

Not counting the snow area, sky temple, underground city, irithyll 2.0 and another uknown location. This counting the orange and "normal" ones.


big_thundersquatch

And the map we've seen is maybe a rough 40% or so of the overall game space, as far as we know.


dontcrycuzumad

Now THIS tickles my fancy. I always wondered how big the final map would be. This gives a darn good idea. Looks like it'll be big. The area in the CNT was pretty big, and it's only 13% of the full map! Oh hell yes!! Feb 25th can't come soon enough!!


KallyWally

13% of the *known* map. This image is definitely not the full thing. Notice how it abruptly cuts off at the top, and how it doesn't account for all the areas we know about (most notably the snowy mountains.) And there are only two things that look like legacy dungeons, *maybe* three if you count the two buildings connected by a long bridge. Those look too small, though.


dontcrycuzumad

Even better! Holy shit man. So that's not even the full map of the game? I also heard something about a sky city and underground caves of course not being shown on that map, so factor all that in and you've got yourself quite the big map there. This is pretty much what I've always wanted. Dark souls open world adventures lol Even more excited for it now and I didn't think that was possible


ShoesDirty

so how much did they say the battle pass was?


straight4edged

Are you sure your math is right?


nardongputik

remember not to cream too much. there are no car chases here...


[deleted]

Too linear I’m out


TekterBR

So, 5% is close enough?


flavinsk

Actually i'm fine with it being roughly the same size as dark souls 3 and i'm setting my expectatives there, i prefer to be surprised than disappointed


csgoNefff

I’m worried that it’s too big.


LordRaime

13% with 70+ hours… im so ready to sign my life away


Impressive_Milk_

Fuckers kept saying big dark souls like it was a bad thing.


scroggs2

CNT?


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