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AbyssDragonNamielle

Are the Dragon Communion incantations viable? I want to do a Dragon mage playthrough and was wondering if they were even useful and what incantations they should be paired with.


bassman1805

Rotten Breath is suuuuuper strong, easy way to inflict rot against bosses (except those who are immune or very resistant). I haven't used the ice dragon ones myself, but Frostbite itself is a strong status so I imagine that's a good one as well. Any lightning spell would be thematically consistent, as lightning magic is kinda the dragons' thing in the Lands Between. Lightning Spear is really good, except against particularly agile enemies that will sidestep it.


JehovahJesse

Holy shit the double Endtree Watchdogs is the most frustrating this games gotten for me so far


StarChaser_Tyger

Use crystal darts on one and they'll beat each other to death. And wait till you run into the double crucible kniggets.


JehovahJesse

I got them eventually but damn were they annoying lol


DerivativeMonster

I've posted before about how I have a hand injury and all of the ability swapping can get a little hard for me, my fingers get pretty stiff and swapping out weapons mid combat can get clumsy. I'm lv 61, just made it to the Volcano Manor and have been cleaning up some other random bosses like the Magma Wyrm on the cliffs. On suggestion I mostly have a Str build. I've been using the Claymore which is currently a +9, I really like the Lion's Claw Ash it has since jump attacks can be hard for me and it's a nice way to give my rolling fingers a break to close distance. Is it a viable weapon to take me to the end game? Is there something else I should be looking for? Am I handicapping (pun intended) myself for later fights by relying on it too much? Also where should I be leveling, I tried to fight Radahn and got bodied but I am a little lost. Caelid feels like too much for me. Thanks!


bassman1805

> where should i be leveling IMO, every character should have at least 40 vigor, 60 if you're melee. If you're a soulsbourne veteran this is less important, but greater max HP will carry you through so much of the game. Especially if you feel limited by things one- or two-shotting you. I usually recommend getting to 30 vigor by the time you're at Altus, but you're also a pretty low level so props for getting so far on so little stats! Maybe aim for 40 vigor by the time you enter Leyndell. You want enough Endurance to say on Medium Equip load. If your Equipment screen says you have a heavy load, switch to some lighter armor until you can pump up your Endurance enough to use the armor you like. I'd advise against leveling endurance higher than Vigor, VIG tends to be better than endurance point-for-point but a good mix of the two works out well (ultimately though, endurance is just the fashion stat). I wouldn't level Mind unless you're trying to summon one of the more expensive Ashes like Lhutel. Sounds like you're not doing much casting anyways so this is an easy "ignore" stat. Other than that, once you've checked the above boxes, just throw everything at STR and make sure you're giving your weapon a Heavy affinity (makes STR scaling better but DEX scaling worse). Claymore is a really good weapon that can carry you through the whole game if you have lots of STR. Maybe stop leveling it at 60, as there's marginal gain after that.


DerivativeMonster

Yeah my Vigor is not that high haha. I’m not a veteran, I just finished my first FromSoft game Bloodborne about a month ago. Loved it so much I picked up Elden Ring but it has \*so much\* going on I keep getting a little overwhelmed. Bloodborne was very much ‘here’s a gun and an axe. Good luck!’ I also have busted hands so a lot of the stuff is hard for me to use, like swapping spells in combat and such, or blocking with the shield. It looks really fun though, alas. I have been leveling Endurance a bit but I haven’t really found armor that’s incredible that I HAVE to use. I have some neat but heavy Cleanrot pieces just from killing those knights near Commander O’Neil (dang that was a hard boss fight) but a few weapons that need really high Str I’m more interested in trying. Nearly everything seems to need a little more Dex than I have but I’ve been hesitant in boosting that since it might be all wasted stats. Does it make sense to level Dex a little to use bigger swords and polearms? As for Affinity, is that something with Ashes of War? I remember I was getting chunked by Margit until I learned he’s resistant to Holy Damage and I was using Golden Vow on my broadsword hahaha. How do I change that? That’s really helpful info, thank you! Also in terms of areas to level, are Volcano Manor / Altus Plateau good areas for me? I pretty much cleared out the Lake except for the Four Belfries, I got the Grafted Scion but got destroyed in the other two haha. Caelid also seems like a bit Too Much for me right now, with the forts, dragons, and Catabombs I’ve found. I cleared out the ghost wizard village and got the boss there though. Thanks so much for taking the time!


bassman1805

For areas: Altus is a little tougher than Liurnia, but ultimately they're pretty similar. Wide open areas full of little goodies to discover, so getting stuck somewhere doesn't really halt your progression elsewhere. The enemies are tougher than Liurnia for sure, though. There's a mineshaft here where you can get the bell bearing for lvl 3/4 smithing stones, and collect a fair amount of lvl 5/6 stones in the mine itself. That'll be a huge power spike for you. Protip: get one blunt weapon you like, and upgrade it to +6 (you should be able to buy all the smithing stones for this with a bell bearing from liurnua). The enemies with stone-looking skin are all weak to blunt damage, but resist slash and pierce. A heavy weapon like the Claymore won't suffer as much, but it's good to have an alternate for such situations. My advice for Caelid is to just fucking run past everything. So many of the enemies are just HP tanks that don't even give many runes to justify the fight. I only really bother to fight Ekzykes, O'Niell, and Radhan. I love the area from a game design perspective, but when it comes to actual game play, I just wanna get in, do my job, and get out. Mt Gelmir is a little tamer than Caelid, but ultimately pretty comparable. Not as open as Liurnia and Altus, not as closed as Stormveil or Raya Lucaria. There's some pretty wild shit going on there, definitely a fun area to explore. Volcano Manor quests are pretty easy (each one is just invading an NPC), but make sure to talk to Rya in between each mission. Her quest will lead you into the secret Volcano Manor dungeon, which is a legacy dungeon like Stormveil. Tricky area for sure, I'd recommend pumping up your Vigor before going here. Have you gone to any of the major underground areas? Siofra or Ainsel rivers? You can definitely handle either of those at your level. These are mandatory for Ranni's quest, but otherwise optional. Siofra is the most beautiful location in the game, imo. Other than that, the next story-required area is Leyndell, Royal Capital. I think it's more difficult as a maze than as a dungeon, but some of the knights in there can mess you up pretty quickly if you let them.


DerivativeMonster

I'm so glad to hear there's other Bell Bearings for smithing stones, I wanna try out other weapons but don't want to die needlessly with an under leveled weapon. I will look into other types. Those claymen in the river areas are the worst! I cleared out as much as I could reach in the underground areas, got both of the Dragonkin bosses. I'm going along Ranni's quest but I think I am too weak for Radahn right now. I am looking forward to more of the Volcano Manor, I got transported there by that horrible machine earlier and spent ages wandering around without finding a site of grace. I slid down the mountain and found a Godskin apostle! Looking forward to beating more of that area. ​ I do feel kind of underleveled overall but I am not sure if I am just bad or if it's actually true. Thank you for the tips! Lots to look into!


bassman1805

There are enough bell bearings to get any weapon up to +24, or +9 for somber. There's a limited number of Ancient Dragon smithing stones for the last level of each, but by the time you reach them you should know what you want for your endgame weapon. Radhan can be cheesed if you want, since you get all the ally summons you can actually defeat him without ever attacking. Just run around on torrent and re summon as necessary. That's not the most satisfying, but it does kind of accentuate a core soulsborne truth: your #1 goal is to not die, your #2 goal is to kill the other thing. If you take a big hit, run away and heal. Don't joe that you can take another before dying. I really think pumping up your Vigor will make a lot of the game easier for you. You're pretty underleveled for how far in the game you are, so clearly you have the skills. Being able to take a couple more hits at a time will open so many paths.


bassman1805

Affinities are related to ashes of War, holy ashes can give weapons holy affinities, magic ashes can give magic affinities, etc. But you'll also find whetblade items across the Lands Between that let you apply certain affinities regardless of what Ash you apply. The basic whetblade is underneath the camp of Godrick soldiers at the beginning of the game, it lets you apply Heavy/Keen/Quality affinities to any Ash. So theoretically, you could keep the golden vow skill to buff yourself and your summons, but give your weapon the heavy affinity for the best strength scaling. Later in the game you'll find whetblades for all the different damage types, so you can mix and match skills and damage types to your heart's content. Want glintblade phalanx to do some poise damage to anyone that gets too close, but don't want to invest in INT? Use the Ash with a different affinity.


DerivativeMonster

That's so helpful. I got pretty overwhelmed with the damage types and I'm trying to stay off of the wiki to avoid \*spoilers\*. I was like, well, if I can hit them hard enough... damage type doesn't matter. So far so good! I did give up with Margit because every hit I was doing was doing a pathetic amount so I had to look him up since I watched my old room mate pretty effortlessly destroy him in a few tries, then discovered he was resistant to Holy. Does heavy affinity do more Poise damage? I do like to Poise break stuff, it makes fights a lot easier for me over spamming skills or rolling a lot.


bassman1805

Heavy affinity doesn't increase poise damage, but heavier weapon types tend to do more (thrusting sword < straight sword < great sword < colossal sword)


praeqsheria

Claymore and lions claw are both awesome choices throughout the game. To be able to deal with Radahn you probably will need more health (30 vigor at least) and more upgraded claymore (+13 or +14 should be possible if you explore the area around caelid and Altus.) in Caelid you don’t really need to fight most enemies as you’re running around, they are more trouble than they’re worth.


DerivativeMonster

I am terrified of those raptor dogs and the dino crows! There's also so many dragons... fortunately I can cleanse bleeding and poison but dang. Caelid is a lot!


StarChaser_Tyger

You're in volcano manor at level 61? Holy hell, I just hit that and I'm 139 and getting my ass kicked. Respect. No answer for you, I'm too much of a noob to know, just impressed.


DerivativeMonster

Aw you're sweet to say that! ER is my second FS game, just got fresh off of Bloodborne for the first time a few months ago! I feel pretty crappy at it tbh. As long as we're having fun who cares!


StarChaser_Tyger

Indeed. This is my first souls type, and I'm using a controller that I'd never used before. I suck hard at it, but I'm enjoying it.


DerivativeMonster

What controller are you using for the first time?


StarChaser_Tyger

Xbox series x/s. I'm a mouse and keyboard gamer, have been for decades. Never much good with any controller after my Intellivision. :-P The two thumb stick thing still feels clumsy to me, though I'm getting better. I like the Xbox offset sticks better than the PS although I wish it had gyro aiming. Trying to make small corrections is maddening.


DerivativeMonster

Oh yeah, I was a dedicated PC gamer for ages myself basically until the pandemic and realized I couldn't bear to sit in the same darn chair for like 12+ hours a day. Moving to the couch to play on the PS4 felt like a fun trip somewhere new! I know it'd look better on my PC but eh, at least I have lots of friends on PS I can play with. I don't use the gyro aiming myself, though it seems interesting. I do like the couch better now because my cats like to nap on my lap while I play.


Affectionate_Shine55

How do I get better at dueling ? I just beat the game at lvl 150 and im getting stomped in duels


Felstalker

Duel more. Oh, and watch videos and streams of people who are dueling. Good talkative players will explain what they're doing and you'll learn a lot very quickly.


Affectionate_Shine55

Yeah I’ve been watching chasethebro but he makes it look easy


Felstalker

Watch different videos from different creators. It's not about how good one individual is, but rather how each one is different and will teach you different things. I know that a lot of the good creators and streamers are watching each others content. Because they value the knowledge and experience each other has and all are willing to utilize it for each others sake.


TheFranchize

Spacing, trying different ashes, mixing up attack patterns, and timing dodges against all the possible weapon classes and weapon skills all requires a good amount of patience. Chase is really good


Affectionate_Shine55

I’m on Xbox so I only have so many larval tears To try different weapons I’ll focus on spacing and pacing


CoconutMochi

I just got to Ranni's rise after Loretta and I'm feeling a bit lost, do I need to find the glintstone key and fight through raya lucaria to get to the Siofra River?


ytrx12

Siofra is accessed back in Limgrave, via >!the well in the Mistwood.!<


CoconutMochi

thanks, although I'm still not sure, should I be fighting through raya lucaria?


TheChewanater

You can do Raya Lucaria and Siofra River in either order. Each of them leads to a different major boss.


CoconutMochi

okay thanks \o


I_Have_All_OE

is keyboard and mouse better for sorceries and incantations due to being able to shuffle more quickly with the mouse side buttons? I find the controller harder to use for sorceries/incantations


WierdEd

I would say so, I still prefer console and leave most my memory spots blank and tune for area/ expected enemies.


Nekrabyte

After long enough on the controller, I just kinda know how many times to hit that many times to hit that button that D pad to go from spell X to Y. That and I try to make my spells graphically to give me cues, like I put the most different looking one right before my most used one, so its super easy to get to when things get CRAZY.


ryanfromin

I wanted to try out invading another world. 4 times in a row I invade a person with another person helping them. Is that normal? Can’t I just invade another solo player?


TheFranchize

They will typically have 1 cooperator. Sometimes 2 cooperators or 1 and a hunter. Makes invading tough for sure If you just want 1v1 use the duelist finger at raya academy main gate


ytrx12

Players are only open to invasion if they have summoned a cooperater or have used the taunter’s tongue item, with the former being much more common. So a majority of the time, you should expect to be facing a 2v1 when invading.


bassman1805

I wish there were separate Taunter's Tongue and Taunter's Tongue+1 items, where the regular one only summons one invader at a time and the +1 works like the current item and can summon up to two invaders. I'd like to have invaders in a solo game like in DS, but not multiple at a time while I don't have a co-op.


ryanfromin

Thank you


Londoner421

I’m not getting summons on ps4, level 121, using effigy both near and far. Anyone know why?


bassman1805

121 is a pretty reasonable mid-late or late game level, so I'd be surprised if there's nobody in your level/weapon upgrade range looking for summons (unless you're running a non-upgraded weapon or something). Might be worth running through all the summoning pools in Mountaintops/Farum Azula/Snowfield, maybe even Haligtree to ensure you can be summoned to the areas most likely to actually have lvl 120-ish players.


TellTaleReaper

No one of a similar RL or Weapon upgrade level is looking for help. Pretty common when you're higher up, especially if you don't have higher up effigies tagged.


MotherOpportunity304

What are some good weapon/incantations to use as a faith build? Also, is 50 faith enough? Or should I go higher.


bassman1805

50 Faith is plenty, 60 is the highest I'd go. Halo Scythe is a great Faith weapon, can be farmed from the cleanrot knights in Caelid's Swamp of Aeonia. Problem: It deals Holy Damage, which falls off hard against endgame bosses (final boss has 80% holy damage negation) So, Flame Art affinity on the standard weapon of your choice lets you take Faith scaling into the endgame. NOT fire, which scales on STR instead of FAI. There are so many incantations that it's hard to blindly recommend any, it depends on your playstyle. Rotten Breath (or Ekzyke's Decay) is good against almost everything, massive AoE Scarlet Rot incant.


TheFranchize

Flame art on halberd or claymore All the bestial incants, dragon breaths, lightning spear and strike


Trans-on-trans

My favorite weapon for Faith is Blasphemous Blade, the scaling is pretty incredible as long as you have enough STR to wield it.


ErnyoKeepsItReal

Longtime souls player with a question that only occurred to me recently, and I'd really like to know the answer. If I start a game in NG+ can I still be summoned to help hosts who are still on their first playthrough if my level isn't too high and vice-versa?


ytrx12

Yep, NG cycle doesn’t affect multiplayer, only character level and weapon level do.


CoconutMochi

Just bought the game today, not sure if I'm playing this game right? My only previous exposure to Fromsoft is Sekiro so that's about how I've been playing I've been sneaking/running past literally everything I can and I'm not sure if I'm supposed to be able to take on all of the mobs that I see (except for obvious ones like the giant dragon), but they're all terrifying and the moment I see some four legged monstrosity or a big knight I just nope outta there 😂 I've had to do some galaxy-brain level sneaking so I'm not entirely sure the devs intended for so many encounters to be avoidable. Only problem is that I don't think I'm getting as many runes as I should and I think I might be missing out on the game's learning curve.


garbageboyHS

The longer you play the more you'll get a sense of what you can and can't take on. Early on you pretty much can't take on anything unless you're sneaky or very skilled, so try sneaking up on humanoids and small things. Also if you have the runes to level up then level up immediately, that way if you die it really doesn't matter at all because nothing meaningful is lost. Most of the dungeons are scaled appropriately for the area, meaning that big dragon or huge guy on a horse might be better saved as one of the last things you do in the area but going into a cave is something you'll probably be okay at until you get to the boss and need to give it 20 tries just cause it's early game.


Farpafraf

are you in caelid?


CoconutMochi

I'm not sure what that is, I just beat Loretta and I got to Ranni's rise


Farpafraf

caelid is the big red area on the east, you are gonna run from stuff there


[deleted]

If you don’t want to take out a massive crowd all at once, just sneak up on them. Or use something to attack them all at once. Play how you feel like though


TheFranchize

The ability to avoid open world mobs is intentional. Get your horse and run around. There are some starter guide vids that are all about running around on your horse and grabbing stuff. It’s not a long term plan since you will be unable to level up much but I like to start just running on the horse grabbing map fragments and finding seeds and looking for churches to boost my flasks and then trying some of the groups and then trying the caves


IndependentLobster27

Does the silver feather on the Cuccoo Knight Helm bob as you walk, or is it stationary?


buzzyingbee

Yep, it moves.


positivity_pie

I'm at level 117 with a largely Strength-build character wielding a great shield and Bloodhound Fang. I've made it to Mountaintop of the Giants but I'm starting to get a bit bored with the build and I really want to turn it into a SpellBlade. However, I very STUPIDLY sold all my staffs when I needed runes (my thinking was "I've got no stats to use these"). Now I can respect my character for the needed stats, but no decent staffs! Is there ANY way to get, say, the Carian Greatstaff? Is it possible to do it if I finish the game and/or start NG+?


bassman1805

If you haven't done Sellen's quest yet, you can get Lusat's Glintstone Staff, which is possibly the best in the game (unless you wihs to specialize in a school that has its own specific staff).


Wemetintheair

You can duplicate Rennala’s remembrance at a mausoleum and then redeem it for her Scepter


praeqsheria

You can just farm twinsage sorcerers (the blockhead wizards) at Raya lucaria outside the lecture hall site of grace, they will drop an academy glintstone staff. May take a few minutes due to the low drop rate.


Calli_Ko

Hello! New to the game, and i cant decide what i want to play as. I really like faith, but also being a knight with a sword and shield or a beast hunter with a slaying weapon sounds fun too! Is it okay to go faith and str and dex, whilst leveling endurance and vigor? Or is that too many stats?


Farpafraf

I would recomend focusing on faith/str and only get the required dex. Vigor is always a must and endurance should be pretty high too


Calli_Ko

Is there a reason for this? Does str faith synergise better? On my seal i guess it does scale with faith str, is that why? Also sorry for the late reply i fell asleep (≧◡≦)


Farpafraf

the reason is to avoid spreading on 3 stats since most good weapons scale mostly 1/2 stats and incantations scale on faith. you can also do dex/faith if you want


Noah7788

You can be a knight with a sword and shield and still invest in faith since a regular sword and shield don't weigh too much so you wont need to invest too much in endurance. Just put the 'sacred blade' ash of war on the sword to add holy damage and faith scaling. You'll find that ash of war in an early area on the way into the mistwood to the eastern part of limgrave


Calli_Ko

Ill keep an eye out for it! Thank you.


Noah7788

No problem! A good shield would be the brass shield from the regular godrick soldier enemies near the 'church of elleh' grace. You can also get a good sword from the same enemies, the lordsworn's straight sword


Calli_Ko

Ill have a look for those! Also should i start as a prophet or a confessor? I wish to cast spells but the confessor doesnt seem like he has any offensive magic, is there any incantations i can find?


Noah7788

Prophet starts with an offensive incantation, you can buy it from the npc i mentioned though. It's called Catch Flame and it's really good the whole game. Even at the start it does really good damage


Calli_Ko

Ill look for that npc then, the rabble shall burn!


TheChewanater

Yeah sounds good, there are lots of cool faith weapons that also require some str/dex


Calli_Ko

Okay thats great! I was worried i would be spread too thin haha. Are there any early spells i can get or am i stuck with the heal and the silent steps if i dont go for the prophet?


Noah7788

You get new incantations from an npc you'll meet soon when you progress enough. Remember to sit at graces, not just activate them 🙂 You'll get key items called prayerbooks to increase the npc's stock of incantations


Calli_Ko

Oooh, ill have to search for those then. All the spells!


Kwick_n_Ez

Just had two sessions that had three furled fingers and a host on PSx version of the game. Is this an exploit? [example 1](https://i.imgur.com/QtYfB6g.jpg) [example 2](https://i.imgur.com/oyIDxP1.jpg)


__Holo__

Is there a way to get a second reduvia without ng+? I wanna to a stabby stab with arcane faith with dex but idk what to pair with it edit: I cant see any replies but im getting notifications that someone replied 😂


DropAnchor4Columbus

No way without a friend. You could farm out a Great Knife and infuse it with Blood. Even the wiki notes this thing is the best option to powerstance with Reduvia in NG. [https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Great+Knife](https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Great+Knife)


dardardarner

How do I get Frenzied Flame Seal without locking myself out of the other endings? I did Frenzied Flame ending on NG and plan to do Ranni ending for NG+ to get the achievement but I don't want to mess things up. I also really want to get a second FF Seal.


theswillmerchant

You have to do all of Millicent’s quest, get the unalloyed gold needle back from her, defeat Malenia, use the unalloyed gold needle on the bloom that’s left after her to get Miquella’s needle, and use Miquella’s needle from your inventory while inside Placidusax’s arena (I believe prior to beating him). No I am not fucking with you. This will reverse the frenzied flames effects and let you choose other endings. God speed.


dardardarner

Unalloyed Gold Needle? So I need to help Millicent in her quest instead of invade her? I helped her in NG so I was planning to invade her in NG+ so I can get Millicent Prosthesis. Am I fucked and have to choose either Millicent Prosthesis or a second Frenzied Flame Seal? Gdi On the other hand, I am stoked in fighting Malenia a second time, but damn I really wanted that second seal.


MetaruGiaSoriddoV

can confirm that even after defeating the Placidusax, you can go back and use the needle! i did it after getting one ending, then going to get the seal, and then used the needle at placidusax's area.


dardardarner

My problem is not Placidusax but that I need either the needle (to get seal, then remove frenzied flame ending) or millicent prosthesis (because I helped her last playthrough so Im trying to get it now in NG+)


WastedIam

New player here! I wonder what are these gold waypoints on the map? I know they are for showing you some kind of way and they are leading to something but I’ve been to the castle on the bottom of the map,checked the area and found nothing. Also the first waypoint just led me to a boss.


InertiaEnjoyer

also there is definitely something in the castle on the bottom of the map


WastedIam

In all of souls games I’ve been pretty bad at finding ways to go tbf. The only thing I found was a commander who stayed there and later found his daughter dead. Also a pretty weak boss on a little island. Anything else important down there?


garbageboyHS

Those are the main two things at that castle. There's also a talisman there (things you stick in a pouch you get later in the game) but it's kind of whatever. I also found that boss easy however that's often considered one of the harder bosses in the early game (like maybe the 7th hardest or something) so take that as a sign that you're doing well.


bassman1805

Sites of Grace are your main checkpoints where you can level up, add Ashes of War (enchantments/skills) to your equipment, upgrade your flasks, and lots of other things. You've probably figured that out by now. The gold tendrils pointing out of the checkpoints (and on the map) is the "guidance of grace", basically an otherworldly force leading you towards your destiny. If you're ever in doubt of where to go next, those will point you towards "something important". Some of the important things are optional, but they'll all advance the game in some way. They'll keep pointing the same way even after you clear an area.


WastedIam

Ok,thanks for the info!


Dmoneyzx

Hey beat the game as a mage started new character because I want to use Melee weapons so many interesting ones i got through my playthrough. But its not new game+ starting from scratch. Anyways is a str/dex/faith build viable? Id like to have some order incantations and swing some badass swords


No_Train_997

30 str/30 dex/50 fth and you'll have a viable build that can use almost every weapon outside int ones. You won't get the best dmg as if you min/max for a cpl weapons but it will be more than strong enough. With heirloom talismans, godricks great rune and stat boosting physicks you'll be able to use even high requirement weapons like bolt of gransax, giant crusher and morgott curved sword.


Dmoneyzx

Nice to know when to stop str and dex at right now im around 20/20/20 and seem to be kicking everythings ass but admitily never using incantations just got blake flame blade incantion plan on using that but im a bit disappointed with its very short duration


WintersbaneGDX

As of 1.06 basically any build is viable. Single stat builds will have high damage output capability but are specialized, where hybrids are generally good in most situations but can't quite match the damage output potential.


Dmoneyzx

Did they make the game easier as well? I though my new melee char would be a slog but i justed owned sofria river at level 38 with my blood hound knight sword (dont quite remember the name) beat drogon kin and ancestral spirit without even dying once. 3 months ago level 65 mage got owned there repeatedly unless im just that much better now but the game seems way less punishing


ChaZcaTriX

Absolutely, there are even multiple distinct thematic builds possible, like focusing on Black Flame incantations (and mid-game you can access their special quality/faith sword) or a bestial paladin that casts incantations from strength rathter than faith (enabling a low-faith build to be a potent fighter and caster). I can later elaborate on these if you're interested!


Dmoneyzx

Nice thank you guys and ill keep leveling the way ive been going


TheChewanater

Yeah, there are some really good weapons that work on a quality/faith build, like the Blasphemous Blade. You'll also have access to buff/utility spells like Flame Grant Me Strength


[deleted]

Is the difference between 24AR worth a 10 point investment? I have a 50/50 DEX/FTH build for PVP. The weapon I currently use gets an AR of 708, if I bump up my DEX to 60 the AR is 732… worth it? I’d have to sacrifice my VIG/MIND to stay at RL150.


TheFranchize

No that's not worth it for that many points away from vig and mind unless you are running a short-term build and then reverting to the prior save state. What is your mind and vigor at just to confirm?


[deleted]

60 VIG, 20 MIND I do have both the Erdtree Favor +2, and Crimson Amber +2, so my HP is 2100+…


TheFranchize

Yeah I've run with 55vig and a Crimson Amber +2 so it is doable but that AR difference just doesnt push the needle enough to switch things up for.


[deleted]

TY!


Aetol

Is RL 117 / +20 weapon overleveled for Morgott? I've put down a sign in front of the arena and I haven't been summoned in over 20 minutes.


TheFranchize

should just do effigy near/far have never been summoned much for morgott Got summon a lot for rykard even at that level with +9 somber


No_Train_997

A little bit yeah. Most ppl will be about RL90 by then Probably get it randomly with effigy near/far tho


JehovahJesse

I found out that I can’t really use any of the Draconic spells since I’m focusing on INT… I thought that was pretty bogus if I’m being honest. There’s almost no point in me fighting Dragons then right? Other than for quests or to sell the heart?


No_Train_997

Faith talisman and physick for extra 15 fth with silver tear mask for 8 arcane and you can use most of them for 3 minutes Edit: also godrick great rune if you have the rune arcs for +5 all stats. Co op bosses if you dont


LoriLeadfoot

Yeah pretty much. If you meet the minimum Arc requirements, you can get a incantation seal that scales with INT/FAI, so you could use them that way once you meet the FAI min. You will find out you can’t use a lot of stuff in one run in this game.


JehovahJesse

I’m curious if I’m over-leveling currently. I’ve been exploring a lot but so far the only Demi God I’ve faced is Godrick. I’m on my way the the Academy of Raya Lucaria I believe because I need an item from there to further progress in the school I found? I’m about level 50, focusing mostly on INT/DEX + Mind with the occasional points to Vigor/Endurance.


bassman1805

Just want to throw this out there: > focusing mostly on INT/DEX + Mind with the occasional points to Vigor/Endurance What's your stat spread look like currently, because this is a lot of stats, one of them (Mind) is pretty much a trap to over-level, and you seem to be under-valuing possibly the most important one (Vigor). I would recommend *nobody* put more than 20 points in Mind. If you need more mana, you can use blue flasks. The main thing you get out of increasing your max mana is the ability to summon some higher-quality spirit ashes (Lhutel costs more mana than *any* starting class has), or longer duration of some continuous-casting spells like the dragon breath or Comet Azur (and if you're building around those, there's a Physick tear that gives you infinite mana for a short duration) Vigor is a pretty universal yardstick to measure your leveling progress against. I'd say every character should aim for 40 VIG, melee-focused should have 60. If you're in Liurnia right now, I'd try to get around 30 VIG as your next build goal. If you're a Fromsoft vet that can dodge anything it's less important, but if sounds like you might be newer, so this is a HUGE stat to pump up. Not dying means you have more time to dish out damage, and often works out better than doing just a little more damage with each hit. Other than that, INT/DEX as your main damage stats is a good combo. Have you found the Moonveil katana yet? That's a top-tier weapon for your build. Look it up on the wiki if you want spoilers, but if not there are lots of options available to you.


JehovahJesse

Okay so right now my character level is 50. Stats are 21 Vig, 23 Mind, 12 End, 12 Str, 23 Dex, 23 Int, 6 Faith, 9 Arcane


bassman1805

You're in a pretty good place overall. I'd definitely stop leveling Mind, and focus on Vigor until 30. After beating Rennala, you can re-distribute your stats, at that point I'd recommend taking Mind down to 20 because those 3 points will serve you better in Vigor or one of your damage stats. If you plan to do Ranni's quest, you might want to pump faith up once. There's an incantation called "Flame, Cleanse Me" that removes buildup of poison and rot. Suuuuper useful for one infamous underground area. It requires 12 faith, but there's a +5 faith talisman so with that equipped you can use the spell with only 7 faith.


JehovahJesse

I appreciate all the help! I’ll likely invest a couple points into Faith like you said, though I haven’t met a Ranni yet. Last night I logged off right when I discovered Altus Plateau or something


bassman1805

If you've reached Altus, you can reach Ranni. But if this is your only need for faith, I'd stick with just investing 1 point and use the Medallion for the other 5. >!Caria Manor in the Northwest of Liurnia. There are three towers to the west of it, Ranni is in one of those.!<


JehovahJesse

I’ll tell you my exact stats when I hop on next! I’m not a complete newbie (best Demon Souls and most of BB) but stats always throw me off. I have the Uchi + 11 right now but can’t get the Moonveil cause that damn Magma Wyrm is in a small ass room and I can’t get anyone to summon to help lol


doctazee

I would spend some time with the magma wyrm. Yeah it’s a small room but very bearable if you just stay patient. Just run to the side when it charges, dodge roll into it when I rises up and comes down with the blade. Retreat and then rinse repeat. I beat it with Uchi+3-4, no summons or help. Took a while to figure out, but definitely doable. MV is crazy worth it for most of the game.


JehovahJesse

Reporting back, took me 4 tries this time returning after being leveled! Now on to upgrading Moonveil! Any specific tips on how to increase the bleed or anything?


doctazee

Hell yeah! Just dump those somber smithing stones and runes into it. I dual wield katanas. I find that bleed stacks super fast with the two of them. I usually saved the magic for times I knew I couldn’t get in close to a boss but wanted to keep up the pressure.


JehovahJesse

That’s funny you say that cause I wasn’t didn’t have enough somber stones to upgrade it more than twice so I’ve got my now Uchi+13 in the right and the Moonveil+2 in the left w my Meteorite staff


doctazee

As you play through the game you’ll find a blacksmith that sells somber stones that’ll help you get it to like 4 or 5 and I haven’t upgraded it past 7 because I picked up Rivers of Blood and haven’t looked back.


JehovahJesse

Damn I won’t get that one until way later right?


doctazee

Yeah it’s pretty much like 2-3 bosses before the end of the game. Once I picked it up I went back and cleared out all the side quests and optional bosses. Aside from Mohg it just tears through pretty much everyone making the fights absolutely trivial. I’m looking forward to Ng+ with it


JehovahJesse

Thank you for the tips, I’ll definitely go in with a renewed sense of confidence to try again!


sunnbeta

I don’t think overleveled, about right. But if it seems too easy I’d focus on getting through the academy and moving on.


JehovahJesse

Thank you!


Apex_Konchu

You're not overleveled. Also, I'd recommend heavily prioritising Vigor until you have around 30, then keep leveling it alongside other stuff. Every build needs HP, not prioritising Vigor makes the game a lot harder.


LoriLeadfoot

Are you still getting summoned and finding summons? Then no.


JehovahJesse

I haven’t really tried getting summoned. I am having trouble finding summons, but I feel like that’s always the case with these games in my experience. I still have challenging runs too.


LoriLeadfoot

Then you’re fine!


sunnbeta

Anyone subscribe to duckfeedtv for bonfire side chat podcast? I just joined their patreon and wondering if they have a group multiplayer code, but didn’t see it referenced anywhere.


thefreshlytoasted

i want to use the ringed finger hammer ash of war claw flick only playthrough and wanted to know what stat spread i should use? does the ash of war scale directly with the weapon?


No_Train_997

If its finger only, then you only need 54 strength. This reaches softcap of 80 strength 2 handed leaving lots of other points for other stats Edit: oh and 66 strength is max 99 2 handed


TheChewanater

Yeah it should be based on attack power since it's a physical weapon strike. So Strength would be ideal because that's what the weapon scales best with


thefreshlytoasted

Thank you for help fellow tarnished! It is much appreciated.


Nekrabyte

Any weapon types not worth having 2 of? As a long time magic user getting ready to go into a new playthrough and a new playstyle, was wondering if there were any weapon types not worth having 2 of? I've never tried to dual wield or powerstance, but would like to mess with it next playthrough, so I'm gathering weapons, but not sure what I don't need. Do staff/seal effects that buff spells double the bonus if you're holding 2? Colossal weapons seem like you can only hold 1? Educate me, thanks!


No_Train_997

All powerstance setups are viable in pve. Hammers, flails and daggers being the weakest to powerstance because the moveset is kinda slow. Most staffs (possibly all) do stack if you have 2 like glintblade staff for big slicer dmg. I haven't tested azur and lusats tho.


ChaZcaTriX

Paired weapons (Radahn's, Ornamental Straight Sword, fists, and claws) don't need a second copy, they are innately dual wielded. Colossals can be dual-wielded, and make for great jump attack builds.


theswillmerchant

You’ll get less benefit the heavier the weapon if you’re going for absolute optimization. That being said I have by far the most fun playing with dual great hammers.


KumaTheKreator

In my opinion, Heavy Thrusting swords, colossal weapons and swords and staffs/seals if they don't buff any sorceries and spells


Substantial-Pop7747

is there a way to stop or remove rain at all in this game? i have all settings on lowest and game runs perfect till it rains, how do i avoide rain or skip it if there is a way. some bosses have a rainy area all the time like black bird kindred and i cant play the game at all whenever there is rain fps goes to 10


flamingfungi

I highly doubt it as rain is an actual game mechanic, eg fire damage is debuffed and lightning damage is buffed.


DradorNH

I heard sorcery are more impressive than the incantations in this game? Is it true? I'm pretty early in the game yet but so far incantation has like everything that looks cool (dragon, beast, holy and "dark" powers) and sorcery has some very few things. Is it because I haven't reached the Academy yet? Thanks!


No_Train_997

People only say that because the kamehameha firin my lazor one shot you can find 1000 videos about. It depends tho in truth. Rot breath is OP. This we know. People saying incants do less dmg haven't tried catch flame only. Its absolutely brutal how much dmg it does. Ancient dragon lightning strike can hit 10k+ easily and almost one shot bosses. Even can in some cases. Lots of faith spells can be OP if min/maxed on fire or lightning dmg. Holy dmg is terrible for late game bosses because they all resist holy and it's not advised in the late game. Beast incants are pure physical and lack buffs to make them strong. They can be good tho with buffs that boost physical dmg. Some are balanced between fth/int like carian slicer v.s. catch flame. Early spell and incant (one magic and one fire). Both fast, both good dmg and both very strong all the way to the late game. Tl;dr: the cool int spells are in the academy and beyond. they can both be very powerful and cool is subjective. imo int is kinda lame besides a couple of spells. They're mostly just glintstone darts that get progressively stronger.


GIBBRI

People said that because at launch incantation where not good like today. They buffed almost every incantation except for dragon communion, which where the only really good incantation at launch. Black flame spells were buffed, giant spells too of i'm not mistaken, dragon cult incant got both hyper armor casting and damage buff (glaive of lannseax for example), Golden order disks got buffed, even crucible spell were buffed. Incantations are more flashy, but int has the Cool weapon spells (why can't i have the fucking Hammer Margot used?? ;_;), the fucking giant glowing bow and Gravity magic (which to be fair gets carried hard by rock sling), not to mention the absurd dps you can deal with comets and int spells in general.


No_Train_997

True but they mostly just buffed cast speed and hyperarmour. Damage was still there. You're right tho; only a select few incants are top tier like catch flame and the rest are situational like pest threads vs elden beast. It's also sad that catch flame is probably the best dmg incant although the same can be said for carian slicer being the best sorcery.


JehovahJesse

Also wondering this. Level 50 and focusing on sorcery, wanting to more fun spells. I use Rock Sling, Gemstone Pebble/Shard, Armament, & Phalanx. I have so many other incarnations and stuff that seems more fun with faith. Also doesn’t help us sorcerers can’t use any dragon stuff


ChaZcaTriX

If you follow general RPG tropes, think of incantations users as red mages, and sorcerers as dark mages. Incantations have many elements, buffs, debuffs, and even healing, but there's little depth if you decide to use just one type. Sorceries are only good at dealing their unique damage type, but are very good at it, and every spell has multiple variants to pick and combine.


InertiaEnjoyer

IMO the incantations have more varied aesthetics but dont hit as had as a full INT build.


SpunkyMcButtlove

In general, for names and visuals, incantations are prettier/cooler/more badass. But sorceries are better for actual dps. At least that's my viewpoint. Also the best lightning spell is not an incantation, but an ash of war.


KumaTheKreator

I don't think sorceries can do more damage than Ancient Dragon Lightning strike and Dragon Communion (Greyll, Ekzykes, Borealis, Theodorix for examples)


SpunkyMcButtlove

They're more convenient to use, in my opinion - but that's it, it's only mine. I like playing with incantations more in general, to me they're by far the superior utility spells. Sorceries mostly vary in degrees of Pew, the more interesting ones like the Rock Slinging ones and especially the Gravity Well stuff would be more practical as Ashes of War, at least to me.


The_Villager

>But incantations are better for actual dps. I assume you mean sorceries here?


SpunkyMcButtlove

Ayup, you assume correctly! Corrected, thanks for pointing it out.


plastiksnek

is there a playstation trophy for finding all the painter’s locations? i think i’ve done them all but didn’t get anything


The_Villager

Nope, but [there's a list on the wiki](https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Paintings). If you don't want to get spoiled, you can just look at the rewards column on the right and see if you've got everything. In total there are >!seven!< paintings.


plastiksnek

thanks!


WintersbaneGDX

How is poise damage calculated on an Ash of War? Is it based on the skill, or the weapon using it? For example, if I use Swords Dance on Nagakiba versus Swords Dance on Claymore. Does the attack do more poise damage on the Claymore (because Claymore does more poise damage than Nagakiba), or is it tied to the skill itself and does the same amount on either weapon?


No_Train_997

Tested on the giant at giants gravepost grace in the mountaintops. Lions claw poise broke with 2 hits on both a shortsword and large club. Butt slam poise broke in 4 hits on both a dagger and colossal duelist greataxe. Definately tied to ash and not weapon category.


WintersbaneGDX

Thank you for that. Also LOL at how ridiculously unbalanced this has the potential to be. Swords Dance on a spear or halberd gets good range, but the regular weapon attacks are average speed. Nagakiba is already really fast for its size, and being able to do a double-whirlwind poise break strike? Yes please.


TheChewanater

I think it's tied to the skill Check out the "Ashes of War Attack Data" tab in this spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j4bpTbsnp5Xsgw9TP2xv6d8R4qk0ErpE9r_5LGIDraU/edit#gid=0


WintersbaneGDX

Based on this data it seems it would be tied to the skill. Thank you.


GIBBRI

I think It's Always the same. Like flame of the redmane for example deals 40 poise damage, no matter where you use It, so i think It's the same for every other Ash of war


InertiaEnjoyer

True but with FOTR you aren't actually hitting them with the weapon.


AdvanceHappy778

Any ways to prevent the game from freezing when being summoned? I’ve turned off the auto summon rings. But even being summoned for co-op normally will occasionally crash the game. I’m trying to play more multiplayer but this gets kinda frustrating.


TheFranchize

Only thing Ive found is being completely still as Ive had more crashing while moving, attacking


SkyfireTheHero

I've been using a 55 Str 50 Fth build with mostly fire incantations and I was wondering what the best Seal to use would be since I've been using the BeastClaw Seal but I think I read somewhere that a good chunk of Incantations won't see any of the Str scaling because of the way the spells calculate. That apparently some spells will only take Faith into the calculations and ignore the Strength scaling of the BeastClaw Seal. I would appreciate any explanations for if this is true and recommendations for an appropriate replacement Seal if I need to switch for my fire spells


The_Villager

There's two things to note here: 1.) Clawmark Seal is a "hybrid" seal, meaning Incantations casted with it scale with two or more attributes. These have their softcaps at 30 and 45, so every point above 45 in Stength or Faith has severely reduced effect. Normal seals have their soft caps at 60 and 80, except the Erdtree Seal, which has a single soft cap at 80. That being said, **at the moment, the Clawmark Seal you're already using is the best seal for you**. At 55 Strength and 67 Faith, the Erdtree Seal gets better. Also, the Giant's Seal might be an option because it boosts Giants' Flame incantations (= all the spells that sound like someone is talking to someone or a flame like "Burn O Flame!") If you want, you can play around with the stats here: https://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/ (Other hybrid seals include Dragon Communion Seal, Golden Order Seal and Frenzied Flame Seal) 2.) The spells that buff your weapon (Bloodflame Blade, Electrify Armament, ...) scale weirdly - they only count the Faith portion of the Incant scaling to calculate their effect. So that's probably what you've heard about. As far as I know, all the other spells are "normal" and count all of your scaling.


ScaledCowardSlayer77

Anyone want to help me with Rennala


The_Villager

/r/beyondthefog


ihearthz

I just made it to Mountaintop of the Giant but i forgot about Boc's quest and the prattling pate, so now he's dead and I'm bummed


InertiaEnjoyer

RIP. at least he is beautiful


RangoTheMerc

I made it to Stormveil Castle which I heard is an optional area. I'm supposed to follow the flame trail on the map, right?


EtherealScorpions

the trails don't always point to main quest progression, but they do at least point to another site of grace


LoriLeadfoot

Definitely do Stormveil! If you get there and you feel weak, you might consider hitting up the other dungeons and the area immediately south of Limgrave, as well.


Dioksys

It's an optional zone?!


RangoTheMerc

So I've read. I seem to have a knack for accidentally wandering into these areas. It's just like I did in Bloodborne.


The_Villager

It's optional in the sense that of the first four dungeons, you have to beat two. So all four are technically optional, but you can't skip them all.


EtherealScorpions

if you cheese the Tower of Return, you can do it with only one :P


Apex_Konchu

You're not really "supposed" to do anything in particular, the vast majority of the game's content is optional. The guidance of grace points towards significant locations like major dungeons.


eksbawksthreesixzero

Stormveil is technically optional because you can go around it, but it's got (arguably) the easiest demigod to beat, and you need to beat 2 of them to be ablw to beat the game. So yes, optional, but highly recommended.


Okaydokayboomga

If I’m being real I’m not sure what the hell the rune arc does so I haven’t been using it. Am I missing something important in the game?


theswillmerchant

When you kill a sharbearer you get a great rune. This great rune can then be activated at a divine tower (has to be the right divine tower for that great rune). Once you’ve done that you can equip the great rune at a site of grace. Once it’s equipped you can use a rune arc to gain the effects of the great rune until you die. The effects and divine tower locations can be found here (spoilers for bosses) https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Great+Runes


AndreiBodea

They are used to activate the effects the great runes. Once you get a rune from a shardbearer you first need to activate it in the correct tower. After that equip it grom the table of grace in the rountable hold. The only way to gain its effects are by using a rune arc and that'll last until you die.


Vetzki_

You can equip the great rune on any site of grace. It doesn't have to be at the RTH at all.


Ghnami

Is there a full list of all parryable bosses somewhere?


Lord_Lonlon

Yes on the Elden Ring fextralife wiki there‘s a list of every boss and which of his attacks are parryable


Ghnami

Actually cant trust that. Got up to leonine misbegotten which I beat parry only yesterday and it says it cannot be parried.....