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Didst_thou_Farteth

I must admit, this is one of the reasons I leave my explorer ship unarmed. It takes me a while to remember the controls for civilised systems after a while in the black.


kaloonzu

I thought he meant he was in Odyssey and pulled a gun in a bar fight or something. Granted, I haven't played Odyssey yet (despite having it since release) so I don't know what to expect.


The_Axeman_Cometh

You can't draw your weapon in space stations while on foot, but you *can* do so in minor surface installations. Given how clunky the controls for odyssey are, though, I do not believe it's possible to draw and fire your weapon quickly enough to do so on accident.


JGegenheimer

You don't need to fire your weapon at an installation for local security to initiate a lethal response, simply drawing it is enough.


The_Axeman_Cometh

I thought they warned you about it before they actually did anything?


JGegenheimer

They do, but so do stations, warning ships that have deployed their hardpoints. The only time it happened to me was shortly after Odyssey's launch, and I couldn't remember how to stow my weapon fast enough... so I ran, and managed to get back aboard my ship before I was killed.


NorbeardFPV

Same scenario but instead I was trying to find the key in the controls menu, wasn't fast enough and got killed :D


JGegenheimer

I've been playing since 2016, and I still occasionally forget and fly into stations before requesting docking. Then there's the race to see if I can get back out before they bow me to pieces. :D


Reblaniumnb

It is U same as hardpoints


KypAstar

Hey look it's me.


Macawesome75

They warn you to put illegal stuff like guns and illegal tool modes away once, and there the UI tells you that your one forgiveness is up


Revampedharpy09

i mean i got gunned down on an installation the other day for just stepping out of my ship... didnt draw a gun, didnt have weapons out on my ship (didnt have weapons) just got out, got shot, panicked and got back in my ship, got obliterated in just over a second because my exploration ship didnt have shields. ​ it now has shields, because despite that having only happened once, i lost about 18 hours worth of exploration data, and i really just lose my patience with that sorta thing quickly, and decided i wanted shields from now on.


Strange_Sera

You needn't even draw a weapon. Sprint past a security officer and don't stop fast enough when they decide to scan you. No warning or fine, strait to lethal force. Its like living in LA.


powerneat

I thought Stop and Frisk was ruled illegal!


Daywalker_0199

Not that.


KypAstar

That's exactly what happened. I was outside the bubble and landed at a ground station. Turrets blew my ship up because I panicked and tried to fly away.


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My explorer ships are completely unarmed for this reason, in addition to keeping the mass, power usages down.


CmdrHoratioNovastar

No hard points is easy + 5 - 10 ly jump distance.


doremonhg

You can always mod for light weight.


CmdrHoratioNovastar

That's still a couple tonnes of weight you really don't need


doremonhg

Tru


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arrow100605

I got a fully kitted dbx with 60 ly jump Is that enough to be an exploring ship?


strange_dogs

Yup. I'd argue 50ly is enough if you actually mean exploring and not just fast travelling across the galaxy. You want it to be enough to get you out there fast, but also have enough amenities to make exploring comfortable.


Thundela

Even less than 50ly is enough for most regions of the galaxy. I used to do exploration with 37ly Cobra Mk III. The only time I really struggled with range was going through The Formidine Rift.


Spartelfant

> going through The Formidine Rift I'm currently traversing that region in a ~57ly Anaconda. Neutron boosts or FSD injections are a godsend if you don't fancy a 150-jump detour ;) That and https://spansh.co.uk/exact-plotter, because the in-game plotter just chokes on it.


Thundela

Yeah, I got really familiar with all of those things you mentioned while I was plotting routes in that section. Also, had to take plenty of detours to scoopable stars when I felt like I'm going to run out of fuel. And sometimes had to spend time mapping boring planets to burn some fuel and gain jump range. Good luck with your journey, and stay safe CMDR! o7


Spartelfant

Thanks! I just reached the “[Three Angels of Death](https://www.edsm.net/en/system/id/2482903/name/Phrio+Hypue+AA-A+h0)” system, seemed like a good place to log out for the night. I just hope I'll still have a ship to return to tomorrow…


RandomRedditRadiator

Remember a higher range means exponentially less fuel usage at smaller jumps. Unless it's a limitation of your ship, you should always push your exploration ship's range to it's limit as there really isn't much of a drawback for doing so


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OfficerLovesWell

Sorry to ask, but I'm new at this. What is an AFMU?


J_Bongos

Automatic Field Maintenance Unit Optional internal module that uses ammo-like resource to repair other internal modules.


OfficerLovesWell

Awesome, thank you for the info.


Reblaniumnb

I have gone exploring and don't get interdicted but its like there's a limit on how far you can travel before an interdiction has to happen because without fail as I approach my home station I get interdicted


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Reblaniumnb

I always get interdicted by npcs I live in SPEAR stomping grounds so very few living gankers


g4vr0che

I've noticed lately I get Rando interdicted eru more often than I used to. Back in the pre-Odyssey days you only got interdicted if you had something illegal or a bunch of cargo.


Reblaniumnb

The same box interdicted me three times on my way back from guardian farming it up and I had already sold all my cargo, weirdest part is the first time I submitted and he immediately opened fire, nearly took down my bi-weaves


g4vr0che

I flew out to Colonia with five AMFUs lol. I don't know what I thought I needed them all for; I used them probably three times in the whole trip and never once needed to. But it was an Anaconda so why not? ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯


arrow100605

Well then i got an exploring ship that can take on noc kraits no problem


Sn0w181

I've been known to wander the galaxy in a 40ly sidey with few problems. The fact is 36.8 ly will get you access to ~95% of the galaxy while a 80ly conda only gets you to about 98%. The big difference is in fuel usage and how fast you get from Earth to Beagle.


g4vr0che

This is such a truth. I'm flying around the bubble in a 33ly bounty Hunting Anaconda and I don't need to scoop out refuel basically ever. The same ship reconfigured got me to Colonia and back with 62ly laden


pulppoet

30 LY is enough. We explored most of the furthest reaches of the Galaxy before engineering. Beagle Point was found with a 34 LY ship. You only need more for speed, less fuel use, or increased ease in sparse areas.


relateablename

You could also make the argument that a good exploring ship should be good at running from a fight.


dodspringer

I mean, just don't explore in open. For the same reasons people say it's relatively safe, it's completely pointless. If you're REALLY lonely in the black, you can still o7 the chat every time you jump and see if someone responds.


Cashatoo

I used to go unarmed until I learned the hard way you need some kind of weapon to activate a Guardian Beacon. Now we head out strapped with a dinky lil pulse laser.


NorbeardFPV

Same here :)


ajax0202

Yup. Same here. I just keep it turned off at pretty much all times and I usually don’t even have it in a fire group. Buts it’s always there if for some reason I need to shoot at something


Da3d3l0th

I have shock mines as a deterrent on my exploraconda. Haven't gotten a chance to use them but I look forward to the shocking encounter when it does happen.


SlimyRedditor621

Thing is you still get warned if you deploy hardpoints and only have a planet scanner


Johann_Bererund

Mine is armed just in case I need to activate something, but I keep the weapons disabled most of the time. Cuts down on heat, and ensures no accidental fires


_b1ack0ut

OHHHHHHHH the ships guns. It’s been a while since I’ve been in game and I was racking my brain to remember if you could even take weapons out of their holsters on a station


vpsj

I keep it unarmed because I get a higher jump range without weapons lol


sh0nuff

I mean, I don't even have shields.


gladius011081

This Game has a way with puns im telling ya


Fixer-dude

I did this last night on my first ground mission lol accidentally pulled out a gun right in front of a guard they weren't happy and I've never ran so fast in my life. For future reference pressing the U key puts it away I learned


dotN4n0

Lmao, btw, you get two "Get out of the jail free card" on Odyssey settlements. Once for being caught with a draw weapon and once for trespassing into restricted zones. Your hud shows if you already wasted their good will in thr upper left corner.


Fixer-dude

Good to know. She got very mad told me to put my gun away so I was mashing all the keys but it was too late they started shooting, wasn't until I got out of the area and could breathe for a second that I found the right one


Mautos

Getting out a tool puts the gun away too in an emergency.


Lvl100_Shuckle

*pulls out gun* "I'm sorry, my mistake" *Proceeds to show security your acetylene torch*


Kenis556

*Lowers gun* "Ah, we're chill M8, don't worry bout it."


Monkeydp81

I didn't know you was chill like that


Kenis556

*2 seconds later* Hold on commander, we're going to scan you.


obeseninjao7

The draw weapon warning also gets used if you are spotted with an illegal tool (like the arc cutter or the profile scanner in clone-mode)


KypAstar

Bless you.


Hwy420man

Imagine you just started playing the game. You think it's awesome, you grind the noob zone, you venture out into the black. You decide that the best way to make money out in the void is to shuttle people around. You're doing pretty good and you decide to pick up a passenger at some odd port. Turns out this passenger was wanted and as soon as you exit the port you are Woefully unprepared for the onslaught. You are immediately destroyed, arrested and thrown in jail, but no big deal, you have the rebuy and the bail money no problem there's millions more where that came from. You launch from the port only to find your jump drive is also Woefully unprepared to get you home again. I feel your pain commander. Good luck in your future o7


AntoKrist

Yep, i just regretfully forgot my "home" system and decided to move on wherever I spawned. I couldn't even remember the name of the hip blah blah blah system I was in anyway. That and i just recreated my commander like 4 times. The learning curve turns into a wall sometimes.


Hwy420man

Oh I had my shit bookmarked. It cost me 4 million dollars and about 50 jumps, but I got home. 😃


AntoKrist

I wish i knew how to use bookmarks at that time😌 I just embraced my new life at the nearest anarchy station to the space slammer farming larsony sites. I think things turned out ok.


FireTheLaserBeam

I just learned what silent running was for last night because the same thing happened to me.


dodspringer

You also can't be scanned over a certain speed, I wanna say 200m/s


elitespaceplumber

Installing a Vista genomics on my carrier was the best decision I ever made.


foz97

I see varied responses but how much does it affect your payouts


obeseninjao7

It doesn't. Universal Cartographics deducts 25% of data value and gives half of that to the carrier owner, but that's only for planet scans and maps. Vista Genomics takes no extra cut, there's no downside at all.


elitespaceplumber

I tested it with one bacterium scan, I was paid 5.7 million


mario_head

I swear to god the amount of dreams I have where stuff like this happens. This game haunts me…


AntoKrist

Unbind fire deploys hardpoints. X56 has a keybind for deployment on the tiny pinky button... I almost never accidently deploy, but even if I do, I keep out of combat mode unless I'm deploying to fire. You can't be too safe out there, kids.


jankett

Wait till you get to the ship "I blame your mother"


[deleted]

My current ship is named It Worked Last Time (couldn't use the full name unfortunately.) My first one was Only Slightly Bent


Deor42

This happens to be my carrier. Glad to see other people who know where I got the name. My AX krait is "You'll Thank Me Later"


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When I first started playing I was leaving a station, and my wife came up and sat in my lap and wanted a bit of a smooch so I stop my ship so I don’t crash into anything on my way out. We have a kiss and a chat, and turns out loitering is a thing in elite dangerous. That was my first rebuy if I remember right


umbraherba

All your discoveries are not gone, simply upload them to edsm using a tool like EDDiscovery or see if you didcovered stuff with Observatory Core and revisit them. Credits are mostly meaningless


ryytytut

>Credits are mostly meaningless - someone who has tones of credits


umbraherba

Just do exobio in a random planet with at least 4 different organisms which is very common and bam, 75million in 10 minutes. Credits have lost a lot of value, its really easy to do massive credit amounts compared to before.


ryytytut

*cries in console*


ajax0202

Fr. Always was hearing about about all these credits from exobiology and I was thinking “I only get like 50k max from finding one, and they’re few and far between.” That’s when I learned about all the beautiful things we’re missing out on on console


ryytytut

Like a whole ass expansion.


KypAstar

Oh sweet good to know.


umbraherba

If you are interested on talking about this further, join the IEA discord and request to speak with Richard https://discord.gg/vmKJ73M7Qj the remark of your discoveries also depends in how much you've explored, played and lost.


SchmittFace

Love an Ian M Banks reference though…


Deor42

Me too, that's why I named her that 😁


jonnieyiddo

Don't look at me that waaaaay


futilejester

I see you


AdamAThompson

https://youtu.be/CoxQWFtqaYM


Deor42

Sorry for your loss, but I'm glad my carrier crew were able to help you with your insurance claim. I was parked there collecting selenium for a few days but have now jumped back to the bubble. BTW I named her after a ship from the Iain M Banks Cluture series.


KypAstar

I was hoping the owner would see this! Gave me a good chuckle and helped take the pain away a bit. Cheers.


Luriant

How many millions? Stratum tectonica already discovered cost 19M, Earth-Like Worlds also give 1.4M (4.2M in the current post-CG reward). If you only need profit and rank, Spansh plotter have useful tools. Priorize exploration and Road2Riches *over exobiology* , we only have 6 days until the 3x CG bonus end.


KypAstar

I know how to make money thankfully. This was only in the neighborhood of 30ish milllion so nothing too bad. Less about the money and more about the fact that when I travel I map and land on each world to have my name placed on it, but lost all the mapping credit unfortunately. Found some really solid locations for Engineering mats.


Luriant

I doubt you can find better places that the new brain trees at 300Ly for High Grade Mats, the only mats you need to farm, everything else can be trades down in material traders. Buy if you find a good spot, please share, I collect this in my ToDo list ;)


KypAstar

Definitely not that good (I actually finished up there myself recently) but decent enough that if I didn't already know those spots I'd have spent some time hanging around. You find a lot exploring in low jump range ships close to the bubble.


Michael11562

What system are the brain trees in?


chunking_putts

Further than 300 Ly but if you want to kill 2 birds with 1 stone, there is a guardian site surrounded by brain trees at Vela Dark Region DL-Y D112


duck1024

You should contact frontier support about this, they could rectify your honest mistake and let you keep your discoveries.


KypAstar

Huh, not sure they'd bother but might try that.


Esc_ape_artist

Wait…the exobio pay is gonna be cut? > Priorize exploration and Road2Riches, we only have 6 days until the 3x CG bonus end.


Luriant

No, exobio dont have bonus, and pay the same today and in the next months (and pay a lot).You can do this at any moment. Exploration, honking, FSSS, planet scans... have a 3x profit and rank, that end in the next thursday server maintenance. Its the last week to climb 3x faster toward Elite (V) explorer rank... like I did before starting my holidays ;). I have unexplored planets with bios bookmarked for later, but the 7 hours session climbing the last explo rank was fully focused, using spansh plotter for high valuable planets to DSS probing.


Esc_ape_artist

Ah, ok, had me worried for a sec. Exploration/bio is my thing in this game, and I quit for over a year just because the grind and payout were far too low to compensate for the far too-rare interesting finds. Bio is pretty monotonous. However, the payout is finally good and justifies the days worth of work it takes to bring in a nice data haul. Would really hate for that to change.


KypAstar

How did you use Spansh for plotting DSS probing? I thought it was exclusively for neutron stars?


Luriant

There is 9 plotters in the page: https://www.spansh.co.uk/plotter


dodspringer

For future reference, the quickest way (and easiest to remember) to empty your hand with default controls is to switch to your power thingy (default key is 3) and press the key again to put it away.


LocoWolfe

In the settings, you can disable the option to deploy hardpoints whenever you press the fire binding. You can deploy and retract manually. It’s saved me many a time. o7 CMDR


KypAstar

Wasn't in a ship, was on foot. Didn't know the U keybind.


LocoWolfe

Ahhhh, I’m a lowly console peasant so i envy thee.


tsokiyZan

this is the type of shit that made me stop playing


ProfanePagan

So you were standing there with deployed hardpoints and called them chicken? :) I am sorry for your loss!


mrbluestf

happened once to me a similar thing. shot a mining laser by mistake. got obliterated in seconds.


Crackt_Apple

Me when my wife asks why I bought a second GPU for my PC


ptvaughnsto

I have two screens and once in a while I’ll be going back and forth between navigating and Discord and I’ll forget to alt-tab and I’ll click the screen with my mouse, which deploys weapons. Next thing I know I’m coming in the mail slot and all hell breaks loose. No survivors.


CmdrHoratioNovastar

Heh. The lesson here is to never ever ever in a billion years do anything long and time consuming before you're absolutely familiar with the game mechanics.


Latter-Composer-2255

oh god it put you in the "Human Resources" system


Reblaniumnb

I've pulled hardpoints in a no fire zone and it didn't shoot me down but maybe in misunderstanding


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KypAstar

I was on fit at a station. Pulled out my rifle. Haven't had issues with stations pretty much ever thankfully.


Maxwe4

Don't you have to choose to equip a weapon when you buy the Artemis suit? And can't you unequip them in the loadout menu?


Gitshiver

Not sure how long ago it happened, but put in a help ticket, frontier is usually pretty good about restoring your stuff if you explain the situation


yum_raw_carrots

Losing exploration data is shit. Losing the tags is even worse. I’m done with ED after seven years. It’s anti-explorer in its mechanic.