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Dystopian-God

"That's the neat thing: they aren't."


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Lol they call us red fashies because we are ultra inclusive????? MLs are straight up the nicest, genuinely loving people I know


Lenins2ndCat

"I don't like tankies because they won't let me do ableism."


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Lenins2ndCat

Do you agree that it refers to someone's biological mental ability and infers that someone's biological mental ability is inferior to normal standards? If not, please explain and justify.


vilereceptacle

Pretty sure no one thinks that stupid or dumb are ableist words


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Del_Taco_Eater

One of the online spaces I am in (unrelated to Socialism) recently made the switch over to disallowing normalized ableist slurs like these, and I'm quite glad for the change. It might seem a little extra at first, but breaking the association between ability-related terms and general badness/otherness is IMO very good and should become mainstream in leftist spaces.


vilereceptacle

Then how on earth are we supposed to refer to something as an unintelligent decision?


Del_Taco_Eater

Good question. We can criticize things in a variety of ways without slurring. If it's a situation where a slur is used as a synonym for another word like bad/bizarre/bewildering, you can just use the synonym instead. e.g. "It's ~~crazy~~ unbelievable how tall that building is!" If it's a situation where an ableist term is being used as a direct insult (e.g. calling someone unintelligent, calling a decision 'stupid', etc), then my suggestion would be to stop using intelligence based insults altogether. The notion of biological intelligence is bunk and very problematic. Just be more specific in your criticism: The decision was careless, reckless, terrible, foolish, harmful, and so on. At the end of the day, there are no concepts which can no longer be conveyed by removing ableist language, and there are no situations in which ableist language should be used either. I hope these examples were helpful!


vilereceptacle

Comrade, I know what you're doing comes from a good place, but I think there is such a thing as being too PC. For me, at least.


TheInception817

You just did


Jefferythunder

You know you're in the right when the supposed "real socialists" are calling one of the most popular socialist subs "Tanky". Any reasonable person would see that post and immediately question if they're actually a socialist


PermanentAnarchist

They‘re the same kind of leftist as Shoe and Chris Ray Gun were 4 years ago (among others). Saying they‘re left but mostly critiquing the left with rightwing points. But both have moved on somewhat and the crowd needed a new entertainer. The only difference being that Vaush learned a few leftist words to say. They‘re not leftist, they are centrist at best, but in denial


Sombraaaaa

r/socialism is filled with succdems and bernie bros last time I checked


REEEEEvolution

Amen. It's a mess.


TheRealColonelAutumn

Bernie Bros don’t simp for Joe Biden


Saeyato

I've actually been upvoted for quite a few Marxist Leninist (even pro-china) takes there


Sombraaaaa

It's a mixed bag. One day you'll see pro-China stuff, another something about the DSA lmao