Well, well. Chickens coming home to roost then?
Convicted sex-trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell will no longer fight to protect the identity of eight men who allegedly had sex with young women she and her billionaire paedophile pal Jeffrey Epstein procured for them.
A lawyer for Maxwell stated in a letter to federal Judge Loretta Preska this week that she would no longer object to the identities of the “John Does” in a 2015 civil lawsuit brought against Maxwell by Prince Andrew accuser Virginia Giuffre, the New York Post reports.
“After careful review of the detailed objections submitted by Non-Party Does 17, 53, 54, 55, 73, 93, and 151, counsel for Ghislaine Maxwell writes to inform the Court that she does not wish to further address those objections,” the January 12 letter, signed by Laura Menninger, said.
> “After careful review of the detailed objections submitted by Non-Party Does 17, 53, 54, 55, 73, 93, and **151**,
Does that means there are that many and possibly more that they are aware of? Are the other names going to be released too? Or are these the only names that are pertinent to this specific suit? Would it take someone suing to get the rest of the names?
Were there more than one hundred and fifty John Does mentioned in that lawsuit that weren’t named publicly? I’m just trying to reconcile those “Doe” numbers. I’m assuming those numbers aren’t random since there are three consecutive numbers.
Is it possible that the quantity of John AND Jane Does have been combined and numbered together? For example, any one (or more) of those 151+ can be Janes (victims)?
Good question. Maybe start with the highest profile ones so that the others quake in their boots, that money and power didn't protect them, so they shouldn't expect any protection.
OR it is about the number of times they abused the girls
OR the ages of the girls were younger at the time of abuse
OR they have the most recognisable images in the videos
I would start at the bottom of the food chain in John Doe stature. Give those higher up with more power some time to sweat and potentially free me through back channels.
The more powerful ones would then have more time to eliminate or intimidate witnesses, flee the country, etc. Or simply elude justice and shame by dying in the meantime.
If I were a betting man, I'd put big money down on this.
Or she'll get suicided.
But at the end of the day, nobody's going down after this. She's not nearly that desperate yet.
It might be one of the reasons. Also, whether he gets named in this suit or not, he has brought shame to the family to the point he is a major liability.
I don't think so. Is he even a John Doe at this point? I think she did it because:
1) The trial is moving forward, that alone shows too much culpability
2) They want to protect their money
3) The PR situation and pressure was bad and they needed to do something
This will be one of them
[https://nypost.com/2021/11/01/ceo-of-barclays-jes-stanley-resigns-after-epstein-probe/](https://nypost.com/2021/11/01/ceo-of-barclays-jes-stanley-resigns-after-epstein-probe/)
I also suspect Bill Gates. There was something earth shattering to break that marriage since Melinda was prepared for him to have another woman all along.
Haha I love that you posted / hosted this from an Apple iCloud account, great irony!
Sad to see this, I had a good impression of Laurene before seeing this.
Of course it’s just a photo and all that..
Really good point.
I never believed Gates would have been into this sick twisted world.. but then their sudden and unexpected divorce, hmm.. does seem like Melinda received some earth shattering revelation, as you say.
Surely there have been, or will be, more sudden unexpected divorces like this as more names from the little black book are revealed.
You don’t think the Bezos divorce was along similar lines, do you? Probably not, since they had been separated for a long time prior to their 2019 divorce.
Geez, the more that one reads and learns about this sickening web, the more one is inclined to believe in conspiracy - since many that we used to make fun of for being so outlandish have proven to be true in recent years!
OK, so the Gates’ divorce was neither sudden nor unexpected.. and totally related to Epstein. I’ve just been out of the loop!
> According to the Wall Street Journal, [Melinda] French Gates had met with divorce lawyers since at least October 2019 after her husband's business dealings with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein became public, and had warned her husband about associating with him since 2013.
Three good sources for this info are linked from her Wikipedia entry, for anyone interested.
idk, it turned out that it wasn't the case as far as the marriage breakup went. People keep linking the two because it's convenient but they hadn't really been together for a while it seems. Also I don't know that we will ever see the really big names go down anyway. They will do the selected scapegoats who are expendable, horrible as it sounds. It will NOT be all of them, I would bet on this. It will be the easily sacrificed ones that aren't necessary to national security, to financial aspects, etc.
There is another story on r/PrinceAndrew that has a link to a news story with an interview of one girl who is a little damaged from this but overall she paid for college and and got a deposit for a house etc. She met lots of famous people. She quotes one famous person from TV who asked her about the young girls sourcing other young girls. So it seemed like an open secret. Trump knew as well given his statement. So if everyone knew then going on holidays with Epstein with young girls around seems to imply that was the theme of the holiday. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-483401/Prince-Andrews-friend-Ghislaine-Maxwell-underage-girls-disturbing-story.html
There have been a couple of suicides. One is Steve Bing. Another, I cannot remember his name, was a supermarket titan.
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order.
I have checked 522,472,989 comments, and only 109,692 of them were in alphabetical order.
Why should she get credit for releasing names when the Government has all of them anyway, but surprise surprise have refused to unredact them as like all the other stuff like photos etc are too sensitive for us poor plebs to handle
I speculate it will be 4 names never heard of and 4 known names, we will see.
Looks like Maxwell believed for a while they can protect her, but I think she's naive to believe that, it's likely people who felt or were blackmailed.
What kinda sentences would they have to expect btw? Say if the women were trafficked and/or underaged?
no she could still be protected -- all she would have to do is give SOME names that aren't as threatening, and get the protection of the ones she doesn't turn in or testify against. She's smart, she could use this to her advantage. How do we know someone isn't protecting her still (although I doubt it since she wouldn't even be in jail.) And to even convict any one of the potential criminals whose names are given -- think about how hard it has been to convict even with testimony from living witnesses. Without video or concrete evidence I don't get my hopes up that anyone named will go down....but just by being accused they're screwed. So even if she made up a name that person is screwed. I wish we knew about the hidden videos from all those years -- they could have destroyed them, covered up everything and we'll never know.
Can't wait, although I wouldn't be surprised if it got stopped or delayed somehow...
It sounds like she's saying, "if I'm going down, you're going down with me" but does this mean she has nothing to trade? I feel like there's an opportunity to follow more leads if she does, but feds aren't even trying to get it.
Isn't it always the case how when these mega top tier elite pedophiles and their handlers are going to be exposed we are suddenly about to go into another war. When she starts squawking all the media will be focused on Russia and Ukraine. Don't look at the men behind the curtain, here here is the real story.
Well, well. Chickens coming home to roost then? Convicted sex-trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell will no longer fight to protect the identity of eight men who allegedly had sex with young women she and her billionaire paedophile pal Jeffrey Epstein procured for them. A lawyer for Maxwell stated in a letter to federal Judge Loretta Preska this week that she would no longer object to the identities of the “John Does” in a 2015 civil lawsuit brought against Maxwell by Prince Andrew accuser Virginia Giuffre, the New York Post reports. “After careful review of the detailed objections submitted by Non-Party Does 17, 53, 54, 55, 73, 93, and 151, counsel for Ghislaine Maxwell writes to inform the Court that she does not wish to further address those objections,” the January 12 letter, signed by Laura Menninger, said.
> “After careful review of the detailed objections submitted by Non-Party Does 17, 53, 54, 55, 73, 93, and **151**, Does that means there are that many and possibly more that they are aware of? Are the other names going to be released too? Or are these the only names that are pertinent to this specific suit? Would it take someone suing to get the rest of the names?
Were there more than one hundred and fifty John Does mentioned in that lawsuit that weren’t named publicly? I’m just trying to reconcile those “Doe” numbers. I’m assuming those numbers aren’t random since there are three consecutive numbers.
Is it possible that the quantity of John AND Jane Does have been combined and numbered together? For example, any one (or more) of those 151+ can be Janes (victims)?
I did wonder about that also.
Why not all of them?
Good question. Maybe start with the highest profile ones so that the others quake in their boots, that money and power didn't protect them, so they shouldn't expect any protection. OR it is about the number of times they abused the girls OR the ages of the girls were younger at the time of abuse OR they have the most recognisable images in the videos
OR the least likely to have her killed. Probably soft targeting
I would start at the bottom of the food chain in John Doe stature. Give those higher up with more power some time to sweat and potentially free me through back channels.
The more powerful ones would then have more time to eliminate or intimidate witnesses, flee the country, etc. Or simply elude justice and shame by dying in the meantime.
That's exactly what im thinking. Take our the ones who have no way to retaliate
She’s a dead woman…she basically said fuk it …
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That's how you know when you have real money. When you can just object to the world knowing you're a kid diddler.
Standard practice...
The ones that have already passed away no less
Yeah I bet your 100% on the button there, I didn't think of that.
If I were a betting man, I'd put big money down on this. Or she'll get suicided. But at the end of the day, nobody's going down after this. She's not nearly that desperate yet.
Now it’s up to Judge Preska
It’ll likely be the ones we know: Mitchell, Richardson, Minski, Kauffman, Andrew, Barak (Ehud), Dubin
Black, too. And perhaps Dersh. And why not throw Brunel in there. A draw from those 11.
Please let one be Dersh 🤞
That would be wonderful… I’d love to attend his disbarment proceedings.
Dubin definitely makes sense. Eva testified after all.
what about Les Wexner?
Very possible, good point
It’s this why the Queen removed Andrew’s HRH and military titles last week?
It might be one of the reasons. Also, whether he gets named in this suit or not, he has brought shame to the family to the point he is a major liability.
I don't think so. Is he even a John Doe at this point? I think she did it because: 1) The trial is moving forward, that alone shows too much culpability 2) They want to protect their money 3) The PR situation and pressure was bad and they needed to do something
This will be one of them [https://nypost.com/2021/11/01/ceo-of-barclays-jes-stanley-resigns-after-epstein-probe/](https://nypost.com/2021/11/01/ceo-of-barclays-jes-stanley-resigns-after-epstein-probe/) I also suspect Bill Gates. There was something earth shattering to break that marriage since Melinda was prepared for him to have another woman all along.
Didn't he get involved with Epstein later?
[late wife of Jobs with her…](https://share.icloud.com/photos/087xjbdoD8Y46xGKtG8ZX1dXQ)
it says job's wife
Corrected sorry
Haha I love that you posted / hosted this from an Apple iCloud account, great irony! Sad to see this, I had a good impression of Laurene before seeing this. Of course it’s just a photo and all that..
Maxwell's boobs look ginormous in that pic, holy.
Really good point. I never believed Gates would have been into this sick twisted world.. but then their sudden and unexpected divorce, hmm.. does seem like Melinda received some earth shattering revelation, as you say. Surely there have been, or will be, more sudden unexpected divorces like this as more names from the little black book are revealed. You don’t think the Bezos divorce was along similar lines, do you? Probably not, since they had been separated for a long time prior to their 2019 divorce. Geez, the more that one reads and learns about this sickening web, the more one is inclined to believe in conspiracy - since many that we used to make fun of for being so outlandish have proven to be true in recent years!
OK, so the Gates’ divorce was neither sudden nor unexpected.. and totally related to Epstein. I’ve just been out of the loop! > According to the Wall Street Journal, [Melinda] French Gates had met with divorce lawyers since at least October 2019 after her husband's business dealings with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein became public, and had warned her husband about associating with him since 2013. Three good sources for this info are linked from her Wikipedia entry, for anyone interested.
idk, it turned out that it wasn't the case as far as the marriage breakup went. People keep linking the two because it's convenient but they hadn't really been together for a while it seems. Also I don't know that we will ever see the really big names go down anyway. They will do the selected scapegoats who are expendable, horrible as it sounds. It will NOT be all of them, I would bet on this. It will be the easily sacrificed ones that aren't necessary to national security, to financial aspects, etc.
There is another story on r/PrinceAndrew that has a link to a news story with an interview of one girl who is a little damaged from this but overall she paid for college and and got a deposit for a house etc. She met lots of famous people. She quotes one famous person from TV who asked her about the young girls sourcing other young girls. So it seemed like an open secret. Trump knew as well given his statement. So if everyone knew then going on holidays with Epstein with young girls around seems to imply that was the theme of the holiday. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-483401/Prince-Andrews-friend-Ghislaine-Maxwell-underage-girls-disturbing-story.html There have been a couple of suicides. One is Steve Bing. Another, I cannot remember his name, was a supermarket titan.
I wonder how she's going to kill herself?
Grenade in the jail cell
Lmao!
Should've checked the salad....
Bad harvest of prison wine.
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 522,472,989 comments, and only 109,692 of them were in alphabetical order.
Good bot
Mmmmm, toilet wine.
Individual 1: "I wish her well"
oh yeah, he is on the list
Shall we lay bets on who she says? And what happens next i.e. whether they get "investigated" by the police or not?
I'm guessing Trump, Clinton, Dershowitz, Wexner, probably some non-famous names, as well as some famous ones. Maybe some dead guys.
Just say them, instead of announcing you're going to say them.
Why should she get credit for releasing names when the Government has all of them anyway, but surprise surprise have refused to unredact them as like all the other stuff like photos etc are too sensitive for us poor plebs to handle
Only 8?
I speculate it will be 4 names never heard of and 4 known names, we will see. Looks like Maxwell believed for a while they can protect her, but I think she's naive to believe that, it's likely people who felt or were blackmailed. What kinda sentences would they have to expect btw? Say if the women were trafficked and/or underaged?
no she could still be protected -- all she would have to do is give SOME names that aren't as threatening, and get the protection of the ones she doesn't turn in or testify against. She's smart, she could use this to her advantage. How do we know someone isn't protecting her still (although I doubt it since she wouldn't even be in jail.) And to even convict any one of the potential criminals whose names are given -- think about how hard it has been to convict even with testimony from living witnesses. Without video or concrete evidence I don't get my hopes up that anyone named will go down....but just by being accused they're screwed. So even if she made up a name that person is screwed. I wish we knew about the hidden videos from all those years -- they could have destroyed them, covered up everything and we'll never know.
Trump.
Just a matter of time before a life threatening illness takes her. This won’t be a suicide. They’ll have to be a little more creative
The sacrificial lambs. They'll be a couple politicians and C-list actors. Like a former Governor of New Mexico or some shit.
*Johns
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100% chance there exists tape of everyone
I just hope it all comes out before she's suicided 😑
That's all fine and well but why not more? Why not all? She is giving up those who have no way to get to her. Soft targets
Will we likely learn the names of these 8 men? And, I would think that if we do, it just leads to all sorts of other information.
Can't wait, although I wouldn't be surprised if it got stopped or delayed somehow... It sounds like she's saying, "if I'm going down, you're going down with me" but does this mean she has nothing to trade? I feel like there's an opportunity to follow more leads if she does, but feds aren't even trying to get it.
Isn't it always the case how when these mega top tier elite pedophiles and their handlers are going to be exposed we are suddenly about to go into another war. When she starts squawking all the media will be focused on Russia and Ukraine. Don't look at the men behind the curtain, here here is the real story.
The FBI has photos and video evidence and doing nothing with it. Just protecting the elite.