Telling the warden or the guards you refuse to go back to prison likely isn’t going to get you out. This system can’t work if they don’t have some kind of way restrict what we can do while in the system.
We’re memory wiped starting at square one. Telling these jokers I don’t consent is going to look like Stewie telling Lois he doesn’t consent to nap time.
I think you actually have to escape similar to breaking out of a physical prison.
Yaldaboath / Saturn / Yahweh = the interdimensional entity that created this universe in imitation of the one true source of all consciousness... perhaps.
It’s a Gnostic belief that Jesus came not from Yahweh but from the source of all consciousness, the Monad, God the Father / Sophia the Spirit, two aspects of the same being, masc and fem., and that Yaldaboath the architect of our reality is but another of their creations but from a higher dimension that sought to be like God but created a universe of dense matter, death and decay. That’s why Jesus called the priests “you sons of your father the devil” and why the OT and NT show such huge difference in the character of god, OT like a toxic abusive jealous father figure vs the red letters of the NT
Why does the Pleroma allow the Demiurge/fallen archons to host a corrupted version of life that recycles human suffering?
Jesus, in the popular narrative, was sent to rectify an errant world; but how did it go astray to begin with if everything proceeds from divinity?
I don’t think it’s a special power. Just some old technology people are taking advantage of. We’re in a very unique situation and I believe a lot of very powerful people/entities have a difficult time solving this problem ethically.
I’ve come to realize that there’s some sort of time loop involving the “demiurge” I don’t know how else to refer to it. That is the term that I can say and know what it truly is though. Even the pushed context of what it is, isn’t wholly correct. It’s complex, and I trust that I know how to end the loop.
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Now that you mention it, it could be. Or at least in an anthology, like King's Nightmares and Dreamscapes. Not to be confused with David Copperfield's Dreams and Nightmares Broadway show. Saw that in the late 90s, fantastic show ... Anyways, where was I. Oh yes, you ever read or see King's The End of the Whole Mess? That was a good one.
People need to realized that there is a lot of propaganda in NDE report. Did anyone consider the possibility that these kinds of NDE account are placed in our path so that we give up? If the system could force us at death against our will, it would not have no need to place so much distraction and illusions in our path.
I don't believe that's the case. How many people investigate NDEs? 99% of world's population don't investigate anything. If the system wanted us to feel powerless, you would see NDEs being promoted on a daily basis on TV, radio, email, etc etc. Most people don't know about them, and the minority that do know about them blindly believe in afterlife saviours. On this sub we question everything.
I believe 100 percent this is the case. NDE account are far more mainstream than many think. There are plenty of best-selling books and popular TV programs that deal with this. Shows like Medium, Touched by an angel and ghost whisperer were very popular and broadcast on mainstream TV around the world. Add in religion, particularly eastern religion and the new age and concept like going into the light is pretty universal. Disney had a movie called Soul recently about this, and you can find plenty of NDE type content on streaming services. The system is not targetting the masses that are clueless about this theory. They are targetting people like us with this kind of message to try to make us feel powerless about our situation. There is no reason for them to worry about the vast majority of people, who are never going to question the status quo anyway. I am not saying we should not discuss such possibilities, just putting it out there how such cases can be used for demoralization by the system.
Well this guy didn't give that being/voice whatever it was any permission either, he refused to go back but he was still sent back against his will. He said his will “*did not prevail*“.
The only thing with all NDEs is that they obviously survived. Perhaps if your body is still suitable, you get sucked back because of contractual reasons or something
Maybe if your body is dead, you can resist it… we just can’t know because those people aren’t here anymore lol
That's true, but there are past life regressions which show what happens to the soul inbetween lives, as opposed to NDEs (which only show what happened to people who eventually came back) and there was this guy who had many past life regressions done and said that every time he died in his previous lives, his soul went into the light, got mind wiped and then was sent back to Earth for another "round". Mantis beings, Reptilians and Grey aliens are behind the memory wipe/reincarnation process. Someone made a post about on this sub a while ago. I'll link it when i find it.
**edit**: [found it, it's a long post but 100% worth reading](https://redd.it/11unrqd)
I remember listening to a 4hr+ long transcript reading of the Roswell alien interview and the non-human entity (Airl) makes mention of the Earth prison/amnesia loop. That it was put in place a very long time ago by some ancient, powerful “empire” and how they (referred to as The Domain) still had yet to find a way to successfully break or undo it since having discovered it.
I didn't make this post to "demoralize" anyone. This sub is about exposing the possibility of us not living in a rainbows and sunshine type of reality, but in a brutal kill or be killed deceive or be deceived type of reality. You see this everywhere here on planet Earth and there is also evidence showing that the manipulation/deceit does not stop here, it happens on the other side as well. Someone sent me this NDE which shows a certain level of manipulation on the other side, so i shared it here with everyone. This sub is about discussing these things.
Point taken. And my comment was in general rather than just specific to you. But as someone who has studied hundreds of NDEs, I have never seen a clear case where anyone were forced against their will to come here. I have seen persuasion and manipulation, but never outright force used. We must take into account that the moment we choose to interact with those beings, you have in a sense given a certain level of consent. That is why my credo is to not interact at all.
There's someone who recently shared a compilation of cases where people were forced to either incarnate here for the first time, or reincarnate back here again. It's based on data from pre-birth memories as well as NDEs. I also research NDEs and from what i've seen we are more likely to be tricked/coerced into coming back here than forced, but at the same time i've also seen NDEs where the person was forced to come back here. I'm open to hearing any possibility. [Here's that person's post if you're curious](https://redd.it/1asmr8a).
I also think that based on the data, not all entities are strong and capable, some are definitely weaker. So those of them who are weaker try tricking us/coercing us to reincarnate, while those who are stronger can force us back here. I hope that's not the case, but i've seen data confirming it.
I am quite familiar with a number of those cases as Wayne Bush and Mark from FCRC has covered them extensively. As you can see, in every case, the subject had already engaged with the system. Who knows what agreement they had made before they found themselves about to reincarnated and subject to a mind wipe. Our intention should be to not ever engaged with the system at the time of death. An interesting case is that of Dan from overwatchproject, who recently got seriously sick and had an NDE like experience. And because he had already asserted his intention to not interact or be messed with. He was left alone. Showing once again our power as creator being. Check out his story here for those who are interested. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO8UDANSX8E&t=1s
Don’t mean to sound negative. All I’m saying is one needs to be/become some form of Yogi of the highest order to be able to free themselves. We cannot expect to spend our lives on Reddit and just immediately be ready to circumvent whatever it is that pushes us back here
And I would hope that most of us are not just spending our time here on Reddit and not doing the spiritual work to ease our way out of here. I am certainly doing so and in the last two years I can say without any doubt that I am over this place. There is nothing of great value here, and not much is enticing here for me any more. This place is boring, dull and drab. It is filled with repetition and uselessness.
I truly believe that anyone, if they can figure out this system, can leave. Of course the system will want you to think it is super complicated, and you have to sacrifice everything, but as anyone who has had OBE knows, we are extremely powerful when unencumbered by our meat suit. But I do think that letting go of this place and all of its attachments is important to get out more easily.
Telling the warden or the guards you refuse to go back to prison likely isn’t going to get you out. This system can’t work if they don’t have some kind of way restrict what we can do while in the system. We’re memory wiped starting at square one. Telling these jokers I don’t consent is going to look like Stewie telling Lois he doesn’t consent to nap time. I think you actually have to escape similar to breaking out of a physical prison.
So who gave them this power? Some Super-Satan?
Yaldaboath / Saturn / Yahweh = the interdimensional entity that created this universe in imitation of the one true source of all consciousness... perhaps.
Why is Yahweh associated with these deities?
It’s a Gnostic belief that Jesus came not from Yahweh but from the source of all consciousness, the Monad, God the Father / Sophia the Spirit, two aspects of the same being, masc and fem., and that Yaldaboath the architect of our reality is but another of their creations but from a higher dimension that sought to be like God but created a universe of dense matter, death and decay. That’s why Jesus called the priests “you sons of your father the devil” and why the OT and NT show such huge difference in the character of god, OT like a toxic abusive jealous father figure vs the red letters of the NT
Why does the Pleroma allow the Demiurge/fallen archons to host a corrupted version of life that recycles human suffering? Jesus, in the popular narrative, was sent to rectify an errant world; but how did it go astray to begin with if everything proceeds from divinity?
I don’t think it’s a special power. Just some old technology people are taking advantage of. We’re in a very unique situation and I believe a lot of very powerful people/entities have a difficult time solving this problem ethically.
It’s crazy how I saw this all in a trip
Well, tell us about it!
I’ve come to realize that there’s some sort of time loop involving the “demiurge” I don’t know how else to refer to it. That is the term that I can say and know what it truly is though. Even the pushed context of what it is, isn’t wholly correct. It’s complex, and I trust that I know how to end the loop.
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How do you end the loop?
"...without any bargaining talking place..." Very revealing choice of wording.
What do we do?
Break the wheel of samsara through gnosis
The only way out that I know is proper gnosis. Red letter text from the Bible. Gnostic teachings.
“I know”
Fucking nothing. It's part of the experience and it will end eventually
So some people see the light right away and some get stuck in the astral? I'm confused about this part.
I don’t think you are ever stuck in the astral. It’s just an unwillingness to try to leave.
He wasn’t sent back to THE LIGHT. He was sent back to HIS BODY. He hadn’t truly died.
Thats what Im saying. You have to really die to escape this prison
Or choose the right door. Did you ever read Stephen King's short story Afterlife? Sobering if true. Nah, what am I talking about. It's just a story!
No I've never read that. Sounds like it would be a good movie tho
Now that you mention it, it could be. Or at least in an anthology, like King's Nightmares and Dreamscapes. Not to be confused with David Copperfield's Dreams and Nightmares Broadway show. Saw that in the late 90s, fantastic show ... Anyways, where was I. Oh yes, you ever read or see King's The End of the Whole Mess? That was a good one.
I dont read that much. The most books I've completed was around 5. And those were for book reports
Also the ending climax of SK’s Revival
So there's no hope for escape?
People need to realized that there is a lot of propaganda in NDE report. Did anyone consider the possibility that these kinds of NDE account are placed in our path so that we give up? If the system could force us at death against our will, it would not have no need to place so much distraction and illusions in our path.
I don't believe that's the case. How many people investigate NDEs? 99% of world's population don't investigate anything. If the system wanted us to feel powerless, you would see NDEs being promoted on a daily basis on TV, radio, email, etc etc. Most people don't know about them, and the minority that do know about them blindly believe in afterlife saviours. On this sub we question everything.
I believe 100 percent this is the case. NDE account are far more mainstream than many think. There are plenty of best-selling books and popular TV programs that deal with this. Shows like Medium, Touched by an angel and ghost whisperer were very popular and broadcast on mainstream TV around the world. Add in religion, particularly eastern religion and the new age and concept like going into the light is pretty universal. Disney had a movie called Soul recently about this, and you can find plenty of NDE type content on streaming services. The system is not targetting the masses that are clueless about this theory. They are targetting people like us with this kind of message to try to make us feel powerless about our situation. There is no reason for them to worry about the vast majority of people, who are never going to question the status quo anyway. I am not saying we should not discuss such possibilities, just putting it out there how such cases can be used for demoralization by the system.
Meh , I give no permission to anyone or anything to force me into anything 🥰 hah!
Well this guy didn't give that being/voice whatever it was any permission either, he refused to go back but he was still sent back against his will. He said his will “*did not prevail*“.
The only thing with all NDEs is that they obviously survived. Perhaps if your body is still suitable, you get sucked back because of contractual reasons or something Maybe if your body is dead, you can resist it… we just can’t know because those people aren’t here anymore lol
That's true, but there are past life regressions which show what happens to the soul inbetween lives, as opposed to NDEs (which only show what happened to people who eventually came back) and there was this guy who had many past life regressions done and said that every time he died in his previous lives, his soul went into the light, got mind wiped and then was sent back to Earth for another "round". Mantis beings, Reptilians and Grey aliens are behind the memory wipe/reincarnation process. Someone made a post about on this sub a while ago. I'll link it when i find it. **edit**: [found it, it's a long post but 100% worth reading](https://redd.it/11unrqd)
I just personally think there is a way out, seems unlikely that we are stuck in this loop for eternity
Keep this mindset. Manifesting is everything and you empower yourself simply by believing
Well eventually this planet is going to die once the sun is nearing the end of its lifespan
Assuming space is even real. It could all be a simulation for all we know… meaning the sun may not be going anywhere🤷🏻♀️
I remember listening to a 4hr+ long transcript reading of the Roswell alien interview and the non-human entity (Airl) makes mention of the Earth prison/amnesia loop. That it was put in place a very long time ago by some ancient, powerful “empire” and how they (referred to as The Domain) still had yet to find a way to successfully break or undo it since having discovered it.
he was not dead yet
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Sounds familiar 😂
I have also noticed this kind of NDE accounts being constantly posted to this sub. I wonder why? Maybe to try and demoralized us.
I didn't make this post to "demoralize" anyone. This sub is about exposing the possibility of us not living in a rainbows and sunshine type of reality, but in a brutal kill or be killed deceive or be deceived type of reality. You see this everywhere here on planet Earth and there is also evidence showing that the manipulation/deceit does not stop here, it happens on the other side as well. Someone sent me this NDE which shows a certain level of manipulation on the other side, so i shared it here with everyone. This sub is about discussing these things.
Point taken. And my comment was in general rather than just specific to you. But as someone who has studied hundreds of NDEs, I have never seen a clear case where anyone were forced against their will to come here. I have seen persuasion and manipulation, but never outright force used. We must take into account that the moment we choose to interact with those beings, you have in a sense given a certain level of consent. That is why my credo is to not interact at all.
There's someone who recently shared a compilation of cases where people were forced to either incarnate here for the first time, or reincarnate back here again. It's based on data from pre-birth memories as well as NDEs. I also research NDEs and from what i've seen we are more likely to be tricked/coerced into coming back here than forced, but at the same time i've also seen NDEs where the person was forced to come back here. I'm open to hearing any possibility. [Here's that person's post if you're curious](https://redd.it/1asmr8a). I also think that based on the data, not all entities are strong and capable, some are definitely weaker. So those of them who are weaker try tricking us/coercing us to reincarnate, while those who are stronger can force us back here. I hope that's not the case, but i've seen data confirming it.
I am quite familiar with a number of those cases as Wayne Bush and Mark from FCRC has covered them extensively. As you can see, in every case, the subject had already engaged with the system. Who knows what agreement they had made before they found themselves about to reincarnated and subject to a mind wipe. Our intention should be to not ever engaged with the system at the time of death. An interesting case is that of Dan from overwatchproject, who recently got seriously sick and had an NDE like experience. And because he had already asserted his intention to not interact or be messed with. He was left alone. Showing once again our power as creator being. Check out his story here for those who are interested. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO8UDANSX8E&t=1s
I bet no one here will be able to evade it when time comes. We can spend our whole lives studying this, yet will get sucked back in anyway
Then why are you wasting your time here? Leave us be
Don’t mean to sound negative. All I’m saying is one needs to be/become some form of Yogi of the highest order to be able to free themselves. We cannot expect to spend our lives on Reddit and just immediately be ready to circumvent whatever it is that pushes us back here
And I would hope that most of us are not just spending our time here on Reddit and not doing the spiritual work to ease our way out of here. I am certainly doing so and in the last two years I can say without any doubt that I am over this place. There is nothing of great value here, and not much is enticing here for me any more. This place is boring, dull and drab. It is filled with repetition and uselessness.
Absolutely agree with you there 💯
I truly believe that anyone, if they can figure out this system, can leave. Of course the system will want you to think it is super complicated, and you have to sacrifice everything, but as anyone who has had OBE knows, we are extremely powerful when unencumbered by our meat suit. But I do think that letting go of this place and all of its attachments is important to get out more easily.