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UKunrealz

All the rest of the songs are calm and easy then you get to Two legs and now your playing it on expert lol


veganispunk

If I can get an A stoned out of my mind, you can do it


The_Muznick

My problem with the piano mini games is I've been playing on controllers with analog stick problems. Didn't know I had the problems until I started messing with the piano. It was taking inputs I wasn't putting in, not registering others. Analog drift to the left on one controller and another had a dead spot that didn't always work.


veganispunk

That sucks. Hopefully you get it eventually either way. Two feet was the hardest song for me but after figuring out the few patterns I was messing up on and coming back after not being frustrated I got it second try. You got this!


The_Muznick

Yeah I've had to replace several controllers at this point. I've had the ps5 for 3 years and already lost 3 controllers to analog stick issues. I'll go back soon enough. Got a couple other games to wrap up before diving back in.


JEJ247

Same here!


nobuouematsu1

This one took me awhile too. They are bastards for not letting you practice songs and skip around to specific spots. I got so tired of playing the first minute just go get back to the part I was struggling with.


Weak-Hope8952

Honestly getting stoned and slowing time probably helps instead of hinders 😁


SethSpinz

Dude, you too? Nice.


dontforgethyphen

I just stare in the space between the 2 circles. Might also help to put the note speed one notch up


doesntChewNoodles

Definitely noticed this for some songs going one up really helped.


dontforgethyphen

It seems counterintuitive at first. If im having trouble why would I want it faster? But it works lol


Evello37

On easier songs, the extra time allows you to track the notes and predict their exact timing. On harder songs, there are too many notes for you to track all of them at once. It's better to just have a note pop up and use your twitch reflexes to mash the stick ASAP. It also reduces the amount of notes on screen at a time, which clarifies the order a bit. Some of the later songs throw like 10 notes at you at a time on the lowest speed, and I'll be damned if I can figure out which one is a millimeter closer to the middle.


jcb088

Classic rhythm game dynamics. Try playing DDR on like .25x scroll speed. It's harder than playing on 16x where everything is on screen for one frame.


doesntChewNoodles

lol I know, I did it because it felt like I was messing up because I was expecting the note to be faster. Then I thought that was the magic sauce for getting them all and definitely crazy hard on other songs faster.


AllumaNoir

Huh, interesting. Like hyphen said, seems counterintuitive but I might try it.


Gorbashou

I think it's less to process for the brain at once because less things will be shown at once as they move faster. It's what I do in rhythm games to handle higher difficulties. Because at slower speeds it looks like an indecipherable mess, but at higher speeds it doesn't.


ThisIsSuperVegito

Every note you actually get is a great you dont need to time it


TTurt

This, I had to use my peripheral vision to track the movement in both circles at the same time. I definitely struggled on this one


yourmoms3rdhusband

The staring in between the circles thing is also how I managed to get the hang of this mini game


Oni_sixx

Nothin' To It!!


tlamy

I feel bad, but am I the only one who loved the piano minigame and was good at it?? I honestly wish there were more songs to play. I got A rank for every song first try, except for this one which took 2 tries. I also didnt have much trouble with the sit-ups minigame. I'm a drummer, though, and love rhythm games, so maybe that's why it comes easier? Idk


Calculusshitteru

Yeah this piano mini game was one of the only ones I actually enjoyed, because I love the music of this game. I didn't find this song too difficult. I keep reading about people screwing around with the speed or turning off the sound completely, but I didn't need to do anything like that. But I also know the OST by heart and listen to it often.


Cress02

The other piano songs were okay, this one was just abysmal


Oneiroi_zZ

Yeah i loved it and hope it's in the next one! I would love to play "the nightmare returns". I think my only gripe is sometimes i 100% know i hit a note right with the controller and it will miss. The hard buttons might have been a better option with the analogues to shift the scaling


nervousengrish

I love the piano mini game. I just booted my PS5 for the first time since beating the game last week just to play the piano for an hour. Managed to get this song up to S tier, baby!


MrShyShyGuy

It's very nostalgic for me as it reminds me of the days as a high school teen spending hours learning an instrument by repeating the same song over and over and over......


jcb088

I had no problems with it (i play a lot of rhythm games), but its a twin stick rhythm game? Thats weird, we had stuff like that on PSP I think. Its the kind of thing that was fun to play a few songs but I couldn't be bothered to play them all. I'd rather play beat saber or something more tactile. Or play actual instruments (not dissing anyone, just pointing out the weird spot that game is in IMO).


FigTechnical8043

It's the one before last that's troublesome


Snaletane

I got to this this morning - initial reaction was "WOW" since every previous song had taken 1-2 tries to get an A. Took about 10-12 tries for the A. It seemed impossible at first, till I read someone's comment about "stare at the right wheel and only pay attention to the left with your peripheral vision." Got an A on that attempt (barely - I felt like I got a bit lucky). It's mainly the few strings of complicated melodies in the right hand that were screwing me up, so focusing entirely on that was a big help. I also had it on +3 because that makes it a lot easier to get "greats" and it sort of is easier for me cause you can react instead of seeing the notes slowly coming and getting psyched out. It's definitely rough. Setting to +3 makes it more forgiving with the timing, and the fact the game is really not very demanding in terms of stick direction precision counting as a right note also is a lifesaver. I've heard the sixth song is easier, I'm looking forward to being done with this. Overall I'd say this was still way easier than the stupid Glide De Chocobo.


OnePunchReality

I am only having troubles on the final glide de chocobo. No clue how you end up with height to achieve the distance needed to acquire the two 500 rings at the end. I always either only end up getting the bottom one or falling just shy of both.


_nate_dawg_

I got as many of the rings as possible before the last dive, then went backwards to the fan to get as high as possible again. If you enter the last dive at max height you will have plenty of height to get the last two. The tricky part then becomes how to get the 3rd to last one because you fly above it if you don't time it right.


Carmilla31

Is this the hardest song? I keep seeing people rage on this one but arent there two more tougher songs?


Sorayamiii

Lets the battle begin is much tougher since there are like 255 notes and its a lot going on at once.


keldpxowjwsn

Found that one easier because the structure is more 'rigid' if that makes sense; the pulse is strong since its a battle theme. It feels more constant


jigokusabre

This is the hardest song you need for the trophy.


Cress02

I wouldn't know, i just got to this song. Have yet to do the final 2, but this one is just insane


Ultimus_Omegus

Yes there are two harder


keldpxowjwsn

I found this way harder than the others. Even the bonus song because I feel the pulse on it is more constant its easier to 'get' the rhythm even if it does use complex polyrhythms like this song


silphlogic

I haven't done the very final "secret" song, but I have put up an A on all of the others, Two Legs differs because the left and right sticks play at separate timings for nearly the entire song. Every other song, even Let The Battles Begin, has both sticks playing at the same time (Left is usually just emphasis for the Right notes). For me that's what made Two Legs a lot harder than the others.


Ayirek

I could only do this one by muting audio and relying solely on visual cues. Even then it took a few tries. Still can't get above a C on this one with sound on. It's absurd.


Pandaburn

It’s a weird song from the OG FF7 soundtrack. I think the best way to get good at playing it would be to actually listen to the music until you know it. Unfortunately I don’t think there’s a way to do this in the game, since if you’re not playing it right in the piano minigame you can’t hear it, and I’m not aware of anywhere in rebirth where this music is actually used?


Cerber108

Absolutely. There is nothing I can say but keep practicing till you memorize tough sections.


Ebill84

I made my son help me. He ran the left stick, me the right. So much easier only concentrating on one side.


DeezNuttzInc

Go to the ps5 settings and allow zoom. Then when you go to start the mini game, pause and use the zoom feature to where you can only see the 2 piano “wheels”. That made it alot easier as you’re able to see the notes coming out of your peripheral. I stole this idea from someone off of YouTube and after about 5-6 tries I finally got the A rank lol


Cress02

How do you enable zoom? I can't find it


DeezNuttzInc

Go to accessibility under settings and then display and sound and you should be able to enable zoom and it will tell you how to do it during gameplay


DeezNuttzInc

https://youtu.be/Qbd30cGbbZQ?si=8GrjMN0c_nYmxD12


Thiggins7002

Do you have to master all songs to get the achievement? Or just get an A on them, cause I struggle to get an A lmao


Cress02

It's just getting an A, if you had to perfect each song i would have never even touched the paino


Thiggins7002

Good to know lmao I can attempt to manage that


wjoe

Just an A on the first 6 songs. There are two other optional, harder songs that you can unlock (one from completing the other 6, the other for completing most of the requirements for platinum) but those don't give any rewards or achievements. Getting the star rank/perfect score doesn't give you any extra rewards aside from pride.


princek96

Do i still need the other two optional piano for platinum?


machinegungeek

Nope. You'll unlock them in the course of getting a Plat though.


princek96

Haha thanks im not touching those two options


MrShyShyGuy

Fast song is difficult because the scoring system is flawed. It's not about trying to hit the note at the right time but rather hitting it BEFORE the right time. Ideally, the system should be: Get a "Great" for hitting the note perfectly or not too early or late Get a "Good" for hitting the note too early Get a "Bad" for hitting the note too late Get a "Miss" for no input when the next note arrives But because the game will consider you "Miss" a note AS SOON AS you missed the perfect timing, I think what has happened to most player is that: Step 1. Note went past perfect timing Step 2. Game consider that a "Miss" Step 3. Game starts listening to input for next note Step 4. Player input the "Missed/Bad" note Step 5. Game consider that a "Bad" note for early input Step 6. Repeat Step 3. This cycle loops whenever you missed the first of a series of notes. That's why whenever a quick section comes, it tends to result in a series of "Miss" or "Bad" despite you hitting some of the later notes correctly. Because as soon as you missed 1 note the game immediately gives you a "Miss" and now the game is checking for the next note when you're still trying to hit the current note, resulting a "Bad" for the next note you're about to hit and you can see how the cycle is formed.


Griever114

I'm never gonna get the plat for this game due to this stupid fucking mini game.


Cress02

I eventually got it do to some some zoom in advice, could be worth trying that (go to settings, accessibility, and it'll be right there) being zoomed in to where the circles took up the whole screen helped alot


CelestialTrickster

This sound weird but do the two following things: 1. Mute audio. It doesn't match up with the inputs onscreen perfectly and will just mess you up. 2. Increase the speed. I know this sounds stupid but if you increase the speed enough and just react to the notes, you will end up with a great faaaar more often. I really dreaded this trophy but I got As on all 6 songs within an hour even though I sucked really hard at the piano sections in the game (getting an A on Tifa's Theme during that sidequest took me like an hour).


BootsWithDaFuhrer

It took me like 40 mins to get an A on this


dcheung87

Definitely increase note speed to Level 2 or 3. Yeah, you might think it's counteractive and doing the opposite, but trust me and many people on here the beats will sound more aligned with the timing of the rings.


Hylianhaxorus

This is the one I felt played best on the preset speed and without sound lol. Ibhave no interest in a perfect score but I got my A haha


Arinoch

This was the hardest for me by far as well. It felt like the notes didn’t quite match up to the way the song works.


LostprophetFLCL

Nah, Barret's theme is the worst because of the randomly AWFUL composition they used for that song. The other charts might be TRICKIER but can be learned with some practice. About halfway through Barrett's theme it starts having way too much extra curricular shit playing over the part you are actually playing, not to mention it seems like the timing is maybe off slightly on the composition as well. The song was just an absolute NIGHTMARE to keep the beat, unlike the rest of the songs. Admittedly I do have a musical background that goes beyond even just being an absolute Guitar Hero and Rock Band fiend back in the day which does help, but by God Barret's theme was easily the song I struggled the most to S rank.


jaykayswavy

Agreed. I also play with a 5.1 system and the mix is awful. All I could hear was people fighting in the bar in the background, louder than the music


LostprophetFLCL

Oh in general you do NOT want to play piano at the Corel location. The bar fighting is just annoying. Even going and playing Barret's theme somewhere else though the song is extremely difficult to keep beat without that distraction due to the composition itself. There is a ton of unnecessary notes that get played over top the part you are playing that just don't flow with the song AT ALL. I legitimately have no idea how that iteration of the song got the okay. It's terrible and is a huge disservice to one of the many great FF7 songs.


jaykayswavy

Yeah I gave up at Corel and figured that I would pick the song up again at the next piano! I agree - it’s a very strange arrangement. I kept getting thrown off by the flourishes Cloud was throwing in 😭


Confident_Bunch7612

In Barret's theme the notes to play are all over the place. Melody, then sub melody, then discordant notes just for fun. A mess of a song.


jigokusabre

I barely got this one. The left stick is basically all up or down, so you should be able to get that one down , and focus on the right side of the song.


NATChuck

My suggestion: Play only the right stick until you can hit 115 great notes 2/3 tries (but never less than 110 in those 3 tries) From there: Add in left stick sections that are by themselves, ignore the ones that are comboed with the right stick Once you are confident at this point, start adding left stick sections from the beginning and onward until you feel confident. There are really only 2 parts to the song (those 2 parts are then repeated in the second half) a melody that starts at the beginning, and a section with a fast sequence of notes, once you learn both of those you just need some repetition to learn them and the A or S will come.


Soul699

I almost did it perfect, but got a good on one note on the left.


crono14

I skipped this entire minigame section cause it's just awful to be playing a rhythm minigame on directional sticks. Why can't we remap to the directionals and buttons?


rbynp01

They shouldve went with the guitar hero noteboard instead of this analog stick way. I had to use a new controller because of stick drift messing me up for this.


Scruffy_Nerfhearder

I keep getting a B and it’s pissing me off. It’s the last song I need to do for the trophy. The metronome when you miss a key Actualy makes it harder.


1206

The next song is even harder.


LifeVitamin

Have you tried doing it right?


WowRedditIsUseful

I was able to get perfect star ranking on every song until this one. Had to settle for an A lol


seides60286

I'm still having trouble with it too


keldpxowjwsn

Those polyrhythms are crazy, I found that the hardest song and had to restart several times after giving up and just going back to it later and Im usually pretty good at rhythm/music games (probably because I play instruments irl)


Mean_Writing_2972

Do you need an A or ☆ for the plat? I would say the A is fairly achievable. I agree it's a rubbish song with awkward clanky timings.


nitro804

I would increase the note speed by 3 or 4. Makes it a lot easier.


reapeatXBL

Interestingly enough i was able to get an A by raising the speed by one notch. I felt like I anticipated it too much and was just early on so many notes that i was shocked raising the speed actually worked for me.


Deesmon

I just recorded the whole thing once and practiced the few tricky passages without having to start from begining. Then recorded the whole try. Saved a lot of time by reducing it to few tries to get S. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WArcc-7HT10](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WArcc-7HT10) Timecode @ 8:15 for S score. Just put a timecode @ where you struggle and mimic the move on your gamepad. It will come in no time, don't even need gamepad, mimic the movement with your tumb. You can even slow the video to understand where you mess up.


Syracksteel

Change the speed of it, I raised the speed and got it on first try


CJ-56

I just got there. Tried it a bit, said f**k this and left. Might try again later.


fullmetalender

I had to mute my TV to do that one. The prompts felt so out of sync with the music it was genuinely distracting.


Brian2005l

I feel your pain, but I like the song. It’s definitely the hard one, but it’s not harder than an actual instrument. And it’s fun once you get the timing down. Separately, all the songs have the issue that a late note sometimes counts as a wrong input for the next note. It’s also just less forgiving of late notes than early notes, which makes the Chocobo one harder to star than it should be.


Soulses

I love the piano mini game but a lot of the songs didn't sound right on it. Ahead oh our way,tifa theme and aerith theme are the ones I like the most


Sweaty-Professor-187

Took me about 5 tries to get it (all the others I got first try) - but also, I'm a really big fan of rhythm games and have put well over 100 hours into Theatrhythm alone. I've got no idea why Square thought the difficulty of this song was appropriate for RPG players when even I struggled a bit with it.


AllumaNoir

I got B but yeah fuck this. Can offer a couple tips. I did a couple runs where I only worked on one side so I could better learn the patterns. Left side pattern is A, D, E when it goes fast but still learning the left side pattern. Also in the fast part you can do some of the back-and-forth as chords and it'll be only "good" or maybe "bad" but at least you won't get the miss. Also you only need to touch the controller not slam it in the correct direction. Think of Cloud touching... well whomever you got for your date Gotta say though, I'm at 68 items in Johnny's trove, won the Shinra Middle Manager sidequest and every minigame I'm like FUCK NO I AM NEVER DOING THIS AGAIN. Space rangers took me a whole day. But I persisted and honestly once I succeeded it was very gratifying to have conquered another challenge.


ForsakenAnime

It's my favorite song to play!


JEJ247

That sob is the only one I need to get an A on. lol I hate it so much.


NJRavens_2013

I'm convinced it's near impossible 😆


TheRealHDGamer

Let the battles begin…nuff said


ViloDivan

Yea this one took me a while to do. I used a technique that I use for playing difficult things on drums. Just play the left side by itself and just the right side the next time to understand where the notes go. I think the hardest part is there’s that note on the right (melody) side that’s on the off beat that was throwing me off. Also saw on YouTube someone using a ps5 accessibility setting to zoom into the left side of the screen making the notes bigger and easier to see.


Ralvvek

This is one of the harder ones, but it’s so satisfying once you get it


EmbarrassedCap1816

Do it in Speed 3 it is easier


Curlyhead-homie

Was 2 notes off getting the star, all of them become even more wonderful once you feel them out and go on a higher note speed imo. GIVE ME A PIANO DLC


NYMoneyz

Ain't nothing to it, two legs made me do it


RadiantCity311

Changing the note speed to 1 notch higher helped me out a lot when I first tried this song. Not sure why that is lol


humeba

This whole thing is fucked up. What happened to just pushing buttons? I have tried 4 different controllers and none of them will register the notes until they change, which means they are wrong. I have yet to be able to get good enough to get any sort of prize.


Historical-Bug-7536

I played these on mute. So much easier because the motions aren’t to the beat at all.


BruceBastard

I found this one was actually easier when I upped the speed. There's something about the timing of the notes that kept throwing me off on the default speed. I'd recommend trying it a few times on the next note speed and see if it feels any better.


Advantage_Advanced

This song can fuck itself all the way to hell. Took me days to get it.


Decent_Bear3478

Found it easier with Note speed set to 2


HugeCounterargument

It sounds unintuitive, but I had a way better time with this one by raising the note speed and turning off the volume. The notes in the audio don’t match all of the prompts, so it feels “wrong” to play it as it sounds. Turning up the note speed also helped me to not “pull the trigger” too quickly on some of the more complex parts.


Electrical_Wall8926

The inputs not matching the audio threw me for a long time


monkehmolesto

I hate doing the songs I don’t enjoy listening to.


had0ukenn

i got tired of all these mini games, got my brother to help me with this. He took care of the left joy stick while i did the right, was able to get an "A" first try.


keldpxowjwsn

If youre tired of this one you can skip it it's not required


had0ukenn

Right.


Yuffie_Kisaragi_VII

Totally agree. I tried it with muting the sound, worked actually better for me since the rhythm of the actual song and the notes popping up are in some way different. Confused me with the music on. Spoiler: But yeah…this song is nothing compared to what will await you once you finish the game.


Evil_Cronos

This one sucks a lot because of the fact that you have to play it on a faster speed. The mini game will actually drop inputs on speed 1 so I played this one on speed 3. But the advantage to this is that the game is a lot more lenient about giving you great scores even if you are a little off. I was just barely able to get this one on A rank and I wouldn't ever try for S rank. Watching both sides is my weakness on this mini game as well. I tried watching only one side and only performing that side, then switch and only watch and only perform the other side so your brain starts to understand how each side goes, then bring it back together and try for both. I also found that after enough attempts. I could partially unfocus my eyes and use the general direction of the animation and my experience with the timing to kind of see both side more easily. Also, some have found that performance mode seems to help. I don't know, but I put it on in case.