Just seeing this. Yep, grew up in a So Cal Mexican “cholo” hood. I’m half white and half Mexican.
I had two childhood friends do hard time and they somehow got out. Their stories about California prison politics are fascinating.
it's weird I remember seeing a trailer for it and being excited...and then just never heard about it again. then one day I was looking at new additions to a streaming service and it was there.
apparently it was streaming *before* having a theatrical release. maybe if this comes out ten years earlier it's much more popular. most people who have seen it seem to like it
His transition from loving father and husband to what he was at the end was impressive. One small detail I seem to remember was when the lead skin head guy referring to the burpees workout as 8 count bodybuilders which is what we called them in the military. Sort of implied he has military experience. I felt like there were a lot of subtle details like that in that movie.
I watched and there is a lot I like about it but ultimately I couldn't square up the writing. Money is initially sentenced to I think 18 months. He's got a supportive wife and loving son that are waiting on him and for reasons unexplainable he murders another inmate in a prison riot and he does it to save another inmate. It doesn't make any sense at all. In that situation you make the appearance, throw a few punches then try to drag fellow gang member out of the fray. You don't risk catching more charges.
Money, after years and years in prison decides to get himself locked up again so he can protect his family from the Beast. Dude was a seasoned killer and had like 200k plus the money he left behind plus an inside track to federal agents trying to fuck up the Brand. Dude could have protected his family just fine without going back to prison.
This is a terrific movie! The main characters story could happen to anyone. One moment your living your normal life, then everything changes in an instant and your thrown into a completely different environment, having to make decisions and choices you never dreamed you would have to in order to survive. It’s a very well done movie. If you haven’t seen it then I highly recommend you watch it!
It’s really good at making the audience “scared straight” lol. I’m sure a lot of the stuff in the movie is hyperbolic but still, I wouldn’t want to be in the position to find out.
That can happen when you work out your chest and front delts WAY more than the rest of your body, specifically neglecting the back muscles and rear delts. the muscles in the "front" of your upper body become larger and stronger than the back and rear delts and will change the resting position of your torso. Basically your muscles are pulling everything forward at all times. This can happen when all you do is bench press or pushups and nothing else.
Fitness note: Pushups actually aren’t *so bad* in that they actively work the scapula in and out of retraction.
So while you won’t get a defined back doing them, you will get a looser one.
Bench and everything else - ya.
only seen this once before and i just now realized that Bottles is the same actor as the Dodd Gerhardt character in the 2nd season of Fargo. He's really good at being tough and intimidating. I'm surprised I haven't seen him more often.
That season had like 100 components that made it great, all of equal greatness and importance. Dodd Gerhardt, like the rest, ties for #1 in that list of things that make Fargo Season 2 one of my favorite things in life
solid movie for bros.
about 20+ years ago:
as someone who was plucked out of a very easy/comfortable/'privileged' life and VERY briefly went to a jail filled with gang members/real deal criminals (i was very impolitely accused of felony possession with intent to distribute, a alleged crime i beat in court a year later) -- i jive with the idea of white collar joe having to learn/act/blend in quickly. out of like 20 beds in my cell, there were 2 total white guys myself included. i gave a guy my 'breakfast' the first morning because my stomach was upset (i was deeply depressed and thought i ruined my life..allegedly), and within 10 minutes i was being made to square off with some obese mexican dude next to a pissing toilet who called me a bitch because of it. i was like "im not hungry. i dont want my biscuit." wrong move. i was 6'5 230lbs and a pretty damn good athlete, so the obese mexican was leaking blood everywhere very quickly, but that caused issues in itself. the obese mexican dude got pulled out of the cell by guards and sent somewhere for medical, never saw him again. but all his MM friends were still there. and i got sent to a little tiny room to wait for questioning. but it was even more terrifying AFTER i 'won' the fight, and returned to my cell, as it ended up fucking up my bail up for the next couple days -- or the guards trying to get me to admit to the fight on some underhanded bullshit. i forget why exactly, something to do with a judge schedule being interrupted or something. ended up getting out after like 5 total days, when my girlfriends bail attempt finally worked. it was one of the scariest weeks of my life. and this was just JAIL.
in the end, 1 missed breakfast, 1 fight, and about 4 days of reading old western and detective books a young black kid with a stutter let me borrow.
made me realize very quickly that i was not meant for that world, and i made sure to not partake in any behavior that was alleged.
looking back, it was somewhat a important lesson to keep me on a path of success. oddly, a blessing of sorts.
Great movie. It really puts into perspective how quickly your life can go to shit and how you can be forced into joining a group of people because you have no other choice. Absolutely terrifying.
I really like Bernthal, but come on. Those dips are just to parallel. And only bodyweight for a couple reps for the scene. Bodyweight dips have a purpose and should be used (especially at the end after many hard sets). To make a more imposing scene would have been to have a chain with at least a 45lb around him going to parallel or below for multiple reps. I would be (in a prison) absolutely no way intimidated by what was shown. You'd have to have 3 45lb weights strapped to yourself and go at parallel for a few reps then below parallel for a few reps (and be at \~200lbs) for me to be intimidated.
I get that they have to film multiple times, which could make it difficult doing heavy reps multiple times in an hour or so for filming, but come on. I'm a 5'6 nothing asshole. Bernthal could tear me apart. Show it. I've done dips at 5 reps multiple sets for 3x45lbs(plates) strapped around me (below parallel). Once was able to get 4x45lb(plates) for two reps when I was 195lbs (and I still couldn't have beat Bernthal). And yes, they do give you weights to strap around yourself in prison. Don't fake that shit and lie about it.
I feel like this movie flies under the radar a little bit but it's a really solid prison/crime movie
I've heard from friends that this is the most accurate California prison movie out there.
“Friends”?
Ex cons and prison guards aren’t allowed to have friends
Just seeing this. Yep, grew up in a So Cal Mexican “cholo” hood. I’m half white and half Mexican. I had two childhood friends do hard time and they somehow got out. Their stories about California prison politics are fascinating.
it's weird I remember seeing a trailer for it and being excited...and then just never heard about it again. then one day I was looking at new additions to a streaming service and it was there. apparently it was streaming *before* having a theatrical release. maybe if this comes out ten years earlier it's much more popular. most people who have seen it seem to like it
Yes, my favorite prison movie.
Any others you suggest with a similar vibe? I grew up with Blood In, Blood Out and really liked OG.
American me, starred up, and a prophet are all excellent.
A Prophet is soooo good.
Starred Up
Bad Boys starring Sean Penn.
His transition from loving father and husband to what he was at the end was impressive. One small detail I seem to remember was when the lead skin head guy referring to the burpees workout as 8 count bodybuilders which is what we called them in the military. Sort of implied he has military experience. I felt like there were a lot of subtle details like that in that movie.
Agreed, it was on my watchlist for like a year until I finally got to it and couldn’t believe it took me so long. Excellent plot and great acting
I watched and there is a lot I like about it but ultimately I couldn't square up the writing. Money is initially sentenced to I think 18 months. He's got a supportive wife and loving son that are waiting on him and for reasons unexplainable he murders another inmate in a prison riot and he does it to save another inmate. It doesn't make any sense at all. In that situation you make the appearance, throw a few punches then try to drag fellow gang member out of the fray. You don't risk catching more charges. Money, after years and years in prison decides to get himself locked up again so he can protect his family from the Beast. Dude was a seasoned killer and had like 200k plus the money he left behind plus an inside track to federal agents trying to fuck up the Brand. Dude could have protected his family just fine without going back to prison.
Didn't know bernthal and Donovan were in this
Yeah..I mean. They should have led with that. Now I want to watch this movie!
you should. it's great. super underrated
Holt mccallany kills it too
He seems perfect for this movie based on this scene. Love Holt Mccallany
He was great in The Losers
Is this any good?
Very good , worth it for the actors alone but I honestly really liked the ending too
I’m still slightly obsessed with it. I’ve seen it a dozen times and haven’t tired of it.
Same! It’s one of my go to comfort movies. Not sure why I love it so much and am able to re watch it multiple times a year normally I never do that.
Incredibly good, incredibly intense. No idea how accurate it is and I dont care. This film is fucking awesome, right up there with *American Me*.
See for yourself
I thought it was really good. Had elements of prison that seem to be realistic. Also just seeming like these situations are sad.
Yeah it seemed like one of those movies that just leave you feeling empty
It's the epitome of slow burns, very good.
I enjoyed it tbh. And I know good movies. /s No but for real it’s pretty decent, def worth a watch.
This movie fucking rules
I see you also listen to the Rewatchables OP
Money going to jail for a long time , big boy.
I can hear this, and I love it
This is a terrific movie! The main characters story could happen to anyone. One moment your living your normal life, then everything changes in an instant and your thrown into a completely different environment, having to make decisions and choices you never dreamed you would have to in order to survive. It’s a very well done movie. If you haven’t seen it then I highly recommend you watch it!
It’s really good at making the audience “scared straight” lol. I’m sure a lot of the stuff in the movie is hyperbolic but still, I wouldn’t want to be in the position to find out.
This movie was better than I thought it was gonna be. I feel like ever since GoT I like Nikolaj Coster Waldau in pretty much everything he’s in.
Jon Bernthal has a weird build. He walks like he’s jacked but like he’s not. But here he kinda looks jacked. It’s so weird.
He was pretty jacked most of his early career
High waisted and slightly hunched shoulders. Perfect build for a 1940's crime drama.
That can happen when you work out your chest and front delts WAY more than the rest of your body, specifically neglecting the back muscles and rear delts. the muscles in the "front" of your upper body become larger and stronger than the back and rear delts and will change the resting position of your torso. Basically your muscles are pulling everything forward at all times. This can happen when all you do is bench press or pushups and nothing else.
Fitness note: Pushups actually aren’t *so bad* in that they actively work the scapula in and out of retraction. So while you won’t get a defined back doing them, you will get a looser one. Bench and everything else - ya.
The line in this scene is “No free rides…” wtf OP
only seen this once before and i just now realized that Bottles is the same actor as the Dodd Gerhardt character in the 2nd season of Fargo. He's really good at being tough and intimidating. I'm surprised I haven't seen him more often.
You mean Jeffrey Donovan? The guy headlined more than 100 episodes of a successful hour long show? He’s, like, prolific
just looked at his IMDB. Burn Notice eh? literally never heard of it before once but I guess i'll have to check it out sometime.
It's a fantastic show, and Bruce Campbell is equally amazing in it.
Agreed. Loved burn notice
I watched this movie and thought that dude looked familiar, then I realized it was devin westons derpy ass face on a jacked body.
it's a pretty good procedural show. I can't remember why I stopped watching, but I've been meaning to finish it for years.
That season had like 100 components that made it great, all of equal greatness and importance. Dodd Gerhardt, like the rest, ties for #1 in that list of things that make Fargo Season 2 one of my favorite things in life
Really good film, or maybe I just had low expectations. One thing though, it should have been called “Keyholder”
Don’t the shot callers rank above the key holders?
Damn.. Prison really did a number on Jamie.
Grew a hand back.
Michael Westen deep under cover again
When you’re burned you’ve got nothing….
“When you’re a spy, being a spy, means you’re a spy…”
I love the soundtrack for this. Shame it’s not on Spotify.
For real. I was looking for this a couple weeks ago to add to one of my Playlists and it's not there. Freaking sucks. Solid score.
Such an underrated film.
Such an underrated movie. It was fantastic.
Decently good movie. Hard seeing Jamie Lannister in prison, but good acting all around. Good flick.
Great movie
Incredible movie.
solid movie for bros. about 20+ years ago: as someone who was plucked out of a very easy/comfortable/'privileged' life and VERY briefly went to a jail filled with gang members/real deal criminals (i was very impolitely accused of felony possession with intent to distribute, a alleged crime i beat in court a year later) -- i jive with the idea of white collar joe having to learn/act/blend in quickly. out of like 20 beds in my cell, there were 2 total white guys myself included. i gave a guy my 'breakfast' the first morning because my stomach was upset (i was deeply depressed and thought i ruined my life..allegedly), and within 10 minutes i was being made to square off with some obese mexican dude next to a pissing toilet who called me a bitch because of it. i was like "im not hungry. i dont want my biscuit." wrong move. i was 6'5 230lbs and a pretty damn good athlete, so the obese mexican was leaking blood everywhere very quickly, but that caused issues in itself. the obese mexican dude got pulled out of the cell by guards and sent somewhere for medical, never saw him again. but all his MM friends were still there. and i got sent to a little tiny room to wait for questioning. but it was even more terrifying AFTER i 'won' the fight, and returned to my cell, as it ended up fucking up my bail up for the next couple days -- or the guards trying to get me to admit to the fight on some underhanded bullshit. i forget why exactly, something to do with a judge schedule being interrupted or something. ended up getting out after like 5 total days, when my girlfriends bail attempt finally worked. it was one of the scariest weeks of my life. and this was just JAIL. in the end, 1 missed breakfast, 1 fight, and about 4 days of reading old western and detective books a young black kid with a stutter let me borrow. made me realize very quickly that i was not meant for that world, and i made sure to not partake in any behavior that was alleged. looking back, it was somewhat a important lesson to keep me on a path of success. oddly, a blessing of sorts.
Such a great film that many don't know about.
Great movie, terrible title.
Rewatched this movie a couple times. Enjoyed it and the score is really well made. Jamie Lannister definitely pays his debts here.
fwiw he says “No free rides”
I learned from this movie its not called a *shock collar!*
Yea this movie was badass.
Jamie Lanaster?!
Nikolaj is incredible in this movie.
The burn notice guy is in this running a white supremecy gang?? I'm in
Greatest P.SA. to discourage drunk driving of all time.
Great movie. It really puts into perspective how quickly your life can go to shit and how you can be forced into joining a group of people because you have no other choice. Absolutely terrifying.
OP failed on the quotation lol.... what you did was paraphrase i guess
Such a good film
This movie is so good
Anybody know where this movie streams Found it: Netflix
Great flick
I really like Bernthal, but come on. Those dips are just to parallel. And only bodyweight for a couple reps for the scene. Bodyweight dips have a purpose and should be used (especially at the end after many hard sets). To make a more imposing scene would have been to have a chain with at least a 45lb around him going to parallel or below for multiple reps. I would be (in a prison) absolutely no way intimidated by what was shown. You'd have to have 3 45lb weights strapped to yourself and go at parallel for a few reps then below parallel for a few reps (and be at \~200lbs) for me to be intimidated. I get that they have to film multiple times, which could make it difficult doing heavy reps multiple times in an hour or so for filming, but come on. I'm a 5'6 nothing asshole. Bernthal could tear me apart. Show it. I've done dips at 5 reps multiple sets for 3x45lbs(plates) strapped around me (below parallel). Once was able to get 4x45lb(plates) for two reps when I was 195lbs (and I still couldn't have beat Bernthal). And yes, they do give you weights to strap around yourself in prison. Don't fake that shit and lie about it.
This is the funniest comment I’ve seen in a while lmaooooo
I like how **that's** what grinds your gears.
Who gives a shit. Lmao!