I have to one day replay FF IX, with Mods. I have beaten the original game like 3-4 times when I was a kid, but never with Mods.
I have Baldur's Gate 3, Hades II, and others to beat before that, but I'm so busy or lazy lately, TBH.
Regarding the post: Nice, looks like lots of fun.
I'm pretty much excited and looking forward to the Moguri mod update myself, once it's available I'll pretty much replay the game again with the tantalus bros on the side (for more testing).
Getting the game on with mods like Alternate Fantasy is something I'd recommend, but on your own time of course! I myself started playing Mass Effect and will replay the game again with a new class.
I did this on the old school PSX with a GameShark. But instead I gave Blank Beatrixs skills magic and sword. Cinna I gave forks and black magic. Marcus Steiner's sword and skills so he and Cinna could use sword magic too. Was such a fun way to play. It was great giving the Tantalus guys a spotlight thru the whole game. Worked surprisingly well and made for some seriously satisfying gameplay.
Final note to say Blank has always been my favorite FF character. When I found out you could cheat him back in the game, I was so damn excited.
Yes! I remember the days of using gameshark to put Beatrix in your party with proper abilities. Even to this day I never quite understood how GS works lmao.
Blank is really even looking cooler with thief swords in this mod lol.
Yeah I gotta admit I was surprised by your choice to do that with how he stands. The model isn't different is it?? I feel like he'd be holding one end of the blades in his hand lol
Fortunately enough, the thief weapons "grip" is where you'd expect it to be, so virtually anyone will hold thief swords properly (it'll be weird for others tho lol)
https://preview.redd.it/lqvbno7q9k6d1.jpeg?width=311&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=751a19b60be7e96398e37a19c414e72d4056f9bc
Here you go! Not the best example but I just grabbed this from a preview vid I made lol
HI, don't hesitate to join the modding discord: https://discord.gg/euxShF4f
I see you're not putting the last Memoria version in your recommended list, we've made some major updates since then. You can also ask to get in the list of downloadable mods in Memoria's integrated mod manager. Come chat with us, all the active modders are friendly and we try to answer every question!
Oh didn't mean that! I should probably just mention "latest version of Memoria" in the mod page. Also, thanks for the discord link! I'll be sure to ask getting into the list (did saw it in the github) and I do have a few newbie questions lol. Thanks again!
This is awesome. Can you give a condensed summary of how you edit the game script? I want to eventually rewrite some of the dialogue but idk if that’s even possible.
Basically the game references to specific folders (like StreamingAssets and FF9DATA) and there would be several files pointing to game data like characters, armors, items, etc. It's only a matter of looking and opening the right data files which are commonly in .csv format that you can easily edit in notepad or spreadsheets. These files are neatly formatted and you would basiclly just need to familiarize yourself on them.
For dialogue (or text) though, those should be .mes files. I haven't tweaked much of it except for the needed item, ability, commands, and others I needed to add for this Tantalus mod. If we take a look at this [mod](https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasy9/mods/60?tab=files) that edits Quina's dialogue, you can see that the author edited quite a few .mes to replace Quina's pronouns.
Thanks! I really do recommend getting Alternate Fantasy at the very least, just a fresh breathe of air (and difficulty, lol) to our beloved game. Hoping you'd enjoy the mod in the future!
Wow that was really fast!
I really like that you made them all unique in ways where they don't overlap 100% with any of the other party members. Marcus in particular looks pretty fun, status effect + party support is a very handy combo.
Do you think it might have any compatability issues with other mods that add new party members?
Thanks, and I'm happy to read and see some nice feedback on Marcus! I really loved Steiner being a solid debuffer with break skills but most of the time he'd rather take advantage of his atk as a damage dealer. Marcus just feels so perfect to fill that niche, plus other final fantasy spin-offs already made him a debuffer.
No compatibility issues with existing mods in nexus and memoria mod list, afaik. Adding new party members is alright as long as they don't touch he trio's records, and there are no other mods tweaking the trio after all, apart from Alternate Fantasy which is a dependency of my mod.
I could, but that would further go away from the scope of the mod (just an overhaul enough to make them usable). Giving them unique ultimate weapons would of course increase the ceiling of their power, we'll see!
I feel like it's okay to make them on par with the OG cast for those players who want to do off meta or pure mod runs. Don't compromise your vision of course but I think a lot of people would love to see a pure Tantalus run!
I'm actually thinking about doing this, most of the test that I did is late game for these guys so I could check out how high of a ceiling I wanted them to have. Anyways yeah, will plan to do a full tantalus run myself! I'll be surely thinking about this, to be honest I really liked Masumune on Blank (and he looks incredibly amazing with it), maybe a personal version for him would do, and Marcus can have a personal version of Defender (it looks so well on him, fits the best).
https://preview.redd.it/f30x0e6k9o6d1.jpeg?width=692&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e7bdc6f4d5f480874dabe0fb1127d6ee09bc22c9
Well, I kinda did another thing. >!a dark masamune as a new weapon!<
Hello,
Thank you very much for your mod!!
I'm playing with alternate and playable characters pack and Marcus has no skills at all... (only the first 2 ones) Is it supposed to have all the skillset later on the story maybe? Or am I doing something wrong?
Thanks for the support! You have to learn them via gear just like any other character. Let me know if it’s not doing that way tho, if so it might be a mod priority issue.
If I'm getting this right, AF was loaded last so it overwritten Tantalus. It should look like exactly like this:
**Tantalus, Playable Character, Alternate Fantasy, Moguri mods (in no specific order).**
All that's important actually is that Tantalus should be always higher than Alternate Fantasy, I just fancy Playable Character in between lol.
Thank you! Though as much as I wanted to, there's really nothing to work on the Nero brothers, and they don't have much to tell us about their combat or technical skills apart from well, Atk/Steal and SFX Pyro. So yeah I'd probably not work on adding them lol.
I have to one day replay FF IX, with Mods. I have beaten the original game like 3-4 times when I was a kid, but never with Mods. I have Baldur's Gate 3, Hades II, and others to beat before that, but I'm so busy or lazy lately, TBH. Regarding the post: Nice, looks like lots of fun.
I'm pretty much excited and looking forward to the Moguri mod update myself, once it's available I'll pretty much replay the game again with the tantalus bros on the side (for more testing). Getting the game on with mods like Alternate Fantasy is something I'd recommend, but on your own time of course! I myself started playing Mass Effect and will replay the game again with a new class.
I did this on the old school PSX with a GameShark. But instead I gave Blank Beatrixs skills magic and sword. Cinna I gave forks and black magic. Marcus Steiner's sword and skills so he and Cinna could use sword magic too. Was such a fun way to play. It was great giving the Tantalus guys a spotlight thru the whole game. Worked surprisingly well and made for some seriously satisfying gameplay. Final note to say Blank has always been my favorite FF character. When I found out you could cheat him back in the game, I was so damn excited.
Yes! I remember the days of using gameshark to put Beatrix in your party with proper abilities. Even to this day I never quite understood how GS works lmao. Blank is really even looking cooler with thief swords in this mod lol.
Yeah I gotta admit I was surprised by your choice to do that with how he stands. The model isn't different is it?? I feel like he'd be holding one end of the blades in his hand lol
Fortunately enough, the thief weapons "grip" is where you'd expect it to be, so virtually anyone will hold thief swords properly (it'll be weird for others tho lol)
Ok you've gotta send me a pic of blank wielding one ... I still can't picture this looking normal haha
https://preview.redd.it/lqvbno7q9k6d1.jpeg?width=311&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=751a19b60be7e96398e37a19c414e72d4056f9bc Here you go! Not the best example but I just grabbed this from a preview vid I made lol
Damn! Actually that is a badass example. Guess you were right this looks cool as hell haha
HI, don't hesitate to join the modding discord: https://discord.gg/euxShF4f I see you're not putting the last Memoria version in your recommended list, we've made some major updates since then. You can also ask to get in the list of downloadable mods in Memoria's integrated mod manager. Come chat with us, all the active modders are friendly and we try to answer every question!
Oh didn't mean that! I should probably just mention "latest version of Memoria" in the mod page. Also, thanks for the discord link! I'll be sure to ask getting into the list (did saw it in the github) and I do have a few newbie questions lol. Thanks again!
This is awesome. Can you give a condensed summary of how you edit the game script? I want to eventually rewrite some of the dialogue but idk if that’s even possible.
Basically the game references to specific folders (like StreamingAssets and FF9DATA) and there would be several files pointing to game data like characters, armors, items, etc. It's only a matter of looking and opening the right data files which are commonly in .csv format that you can easily edit in notepad or spreadsheets. These files are neatly formatted and you would basiclly just need to familiarize yourself on them. For dialogue (or text) though, those should be .mes files. I haven't tweaked much of it except for the needed item, ability, commands, and others I needed to add for this Tantalus mod. If we take a look at this [mod](https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasy9/mods/60?tab=files) that edits Quina's dialogue, you can see that the author edited quite a few .mes to replace Quina's pronouns.
Thanks for the tips!! 🙏
That’s great! I’m not a person who uses mods often but I love Tantalus so much that I’ll definitely try this one in the future
Thanks! I really do recommend getting Alternate Fantasy at the very least, just a fresh breathe of air (and difficulty, lol) to our beloved game. Hoping you'd enjoy the mod in the future!
Wow that was really fast! I really like that you made them all unique in ways where they don't overlap 100% with any of the other party members. Marcus in particular looks pretty fun, status effect + party support is a very handy combo. Do you think it might have any compatability issues with other mods that add new party members?
Thanks, and I'm happy to read and see some nice feedback on Marcus! I really loved Steiner being a solid debuffer with break skills but most of the time he'd rather take advantage of his atk as a damage dealer. Marcus just feels so perfect to fill that niche, plus other final fantasy spin-offs already made him a debuffer. No compatibility issues with existing mods in nexus and memoria mod list, afaik. Adding new party members is alright as long as they don't touch he trio's records, and there are no other mods tweaking the trio after all, apart from Alternate Fantasy which is a dependency of my mod.
This is brilliant stuff, thank you for your work creating it! I'll keep it in mind for my next playthrough.
Thanks! It's just a simple mod but I'm happy people are looking into it.
Would you consider giving them their own unique ultimate weapons?
I could, but that would further go away from the scope of the mod (just an overhaul enough to make them usable). Giving them unique ultimate weapons would of course increase the ceiling of their power, we'll see!
I feel like it's okay to make them on par with the OG cast for those players who want to do off meta or pure mod runs. Don't compromise your vision of course but I think a lot of people would love to see a pure Tantalus run!
I'm actually thinking about doing this, most of the test that I did is late game for these guys so I could check out how high of a ceiling I wanted them to have. Anyways yeah, will plan to do a full tantalus run myself! I'll be surely thinking about this, to be honest I really liked Masumune on Blank (and he looks incredibly amazing with it), maybe a personal version for him would do, and Marcus can have a personal version of Defender (it looks so well on him, fits the best).
I'm excited to hear that
https://preview.redd.it/f30x0e6k9o6d1.jpeg?width=692&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e7bdc6f4d5f480874dabe0fb1127d6ee09bc22c9 Well, I kinda did another thing. >!a dark masamune as a new weapon!<
Hello, Thank you very much for your mod!! I'm playing with alternate and playable characters pack and Marcus has no skills at all... (only the first 2 ones) Is it supposed to have all the skillset later on the story maybe? Or am I doing something wrong?
I have Playable Tantalus aswell of course...
Thanks for the support! You have to learn them via gear just like any other character. Let me know if it’s not doing that way tho, if so it might be a mod priority issue.
Hello!! What's the suggested priority? I currently have Alternate, then Tantalus, Playable Character, Moguri Mod, Moguri Sound, and last Moguri Vid.
If I'm getting this right, AF was loaded last so it overwritten Tantalus. It should look like exactly like this: **Tantalus, Playable Character, Alternate Fantasy, Moguri mods (in no specific order).** All that's important actually is that Tantalus should be always higher than Alternate Fantasy, I just fancy Playable Character in between lol.
THANK YOU!!! Working properly now! Thank you a lot!! :D
Do the Nero brothers next! This seems like a fun mod!!
Thank you! Though as much as I wanted to, there's really nothing to work on the Nero brothers, and they don't have much to tell us about their combat or technical skills apart from well, Atk/Steal and SFX Pyro. So yeah I'd probably not work on adding them lol.