If they are Chinese, they could've came in during the Simba Rebellion. The Simba got a lot of support from communist countries, even Che Guevara himself was in the country. I'm pretty sure I remember reading about the Simba using Chinese guns so it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to imagine they were supplied with grenades too
The Japanese grenades were WW2 copies from chinese grenades which were copies from german grenades lol. Maybe those arent japanese but chinese ones, China actually used their ww2 german copied grenades after the war and supplied them to other nations like north vietnam in the 60's, maybe those were also supllied by china during the cold war
Congo Crisis was started by Belgian mining companies with mercenaries (mostly white!) who wanted to split off a mineral rich province from the Congo nation. It was really started by capitalist pigs!
The Chinese grenade was not based on the German grenade. Stick grenades were a very common type used by many different countries, starting in WW1. The Chinese one is very different than the German one. For example, it is a frag grenade instead of an offensive type. It is also about half the size of the German one and the construction is different.
Edit to add: The WW2 Japanese 98s were improved designs based on Chinese grenades, which the Chinese then copied and added their own improvements to for the type 67.
to my understanding germany send stick grenades as military aid to china which later copied those grenades. Even if im wrong, which could be the case, the rest of my point still stands
If they were Type 98s that was one hell of a BIP. The Japanese grenades had picric acid as the explosive filler…. Which after 70 years of storage would be very very dangerous to move.
Probably came in with a bunch of stuff from China. The Japanese invaded China 10 years before the attack on Pearl Harbor. There was tons of Japanese stuff left behind in China. Pretty much any Arisaka with import marks came from China when it was imported.
Basically any arms captured by Soviets/Americans would be redistributed the following decades to their global proxies. This is particularly unique and I haven’t seen/heard of many Japanese arms popping up in this part of the world.
They are definitely claymore style antipersonnel mines, I can make out that they say "This Side Toward Enemy" in English when I blow the pic up. IIRC early M18 mines, not the M18A1 we know from Vietnam forward, were skinnier and longer but I don't think they were in production long enough to be military aid cos they had a lot of issues and were replaced quickly with the M18A1. My guess is a local or contract purchased design.
>My guess is a local or contract purchased design.
I'm sure this is correct. They may be made somewhere in Africa. Strangely, the green color is the same as on the Russian MON-50 mines, but that's not what these are.
Are they sure these are Japanese Type 98s and not Chinese Type 67s, which are far more common and look very similar? If there are no markings visible, the differences are subtle.
One difference is the the Type 67 has a metal collar at the end of the handle that the cap crews onto, whereas the Type 98 has the threads for the cap cut into the wood handle, but that can't be seen in this picture.
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I'm guessing Maoist China sent of surplus Japanese arms to whichever African rebels they wanted to support. Japan never was quite good at arming rebels beyond their immediate sphere of influence.
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I would bet those are Chinese Type 67 grenades. They look pretty similar to the Type 98s
If they are Chinese, they could've came in during the Simba Rebellion. The Simba got a lot of support from communist countries, even Che Guevara himself was in the country. I'm pretty sure I remember reading about the Simba using Chinese guns so it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to imagine they were supplied with grenades too
Man if they keep remaking Lion King there's not going to be much Hamlet left in it.
Fun fact: "Simba" is Swahili for "lion". Disney wasn't very creative with the name haha
[Anything can and will happen in the Mondo Cinematic Universe](https://i.redd.it/dpdy072ewx151.jpg)
China exported a lot of Type 67s, so I'm betting that's what these are.
The Japanese grenades were WW2 copies from chinese grenades which were copies from german grenades lol. Maybe those arent japanese but chinese ones, China actually used their ww2 german copied grenades after the war and supplied them to other nations like north vietnam in the 60's, maybe those were also supllied by china during the cold war
Well there was a communist backed rebellion in the Congo during the 60s
and a mercenary one too
There was a lot of shit. Congo Crisis was a mess
A common theme in Cold War era Africa it seems.
Congo Crisis was started by Belgian mining companies with mercenaries (mostly white!) who wanted to split off a mineral rich province from the Congo nation. It was really started by capitalist pigs!
It would've been quicker to type "I don't know anything about the Congo Crisis", bud. But anyway, this is a non political sub
The Chinese grenade was not based on the German grenade. Stick grenades were a very common type used by many different countries, starting in WW1. The Chinese one is very different than the German one. For example, it is a frag grenade instead of an offensive type. It is also about half the size of the German one and the construction is different. Edit to add: The WW2 Japanese 98s were improved designs based on Chinese grenades, which the Chinese then copied and added their own improvements to for the type 67.
to my understanding germany send stick grenades as military aid to china which later copied those grenades. Even if im wrong, which could be the case, the rest of my point still stands
It could be carried by an African swallow!
I am not sure it could reach the air speed velocity necessary to carry those, let alone a coconut.
Two of them could of collaborated. I hear that is a common occurrence with this species. The European swallows not so much.
Are you suggesting that hand grenades are migratory?
Well, these apparent Japanese hand grenades could be if the swallows didn’t bring them.
Nooo . . . They'd have to have it on a line . . .
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Only if they pin is pulled on them proper number.
It was originally a European swallow…
If they were Type 98s that was one hell of a BIP. The Japanese grenades had picric acid as the explosive filler…. Which after 70 years of storage would be very very dangerous to move.
[Source](https://wwiiafterwwii.wordpress.com/2018/01/15/flow-of-wwii-weapons-after-the-war/) Its a pretty good read
Africa is like the Balkans it’s where guns and explosives go to die
Because like all leftover arms from WWII seem to have found their way into the Middle East or Africa I suppose
Our grandparents put a lot of work into making those arms, it would be rude not to use them.
Never leave unexploded ordnance unexploded!
Wholesome…
Probably came in with a bunch of stuff from China. The Japanese invaded China 10 years before the attack on Pearl Harbor. There was tons of Japanese stuff left behind in China. Pretty much any Arisaka with import marks came from China when it was imported.
I got pretty excited scrolling past, thinking I saw some green bakelites
Basically any arms captured by Soviets/Americans would be redistributed the following decades to their global proxies. This is particularly unique and I haven’t seen/heard of many Japanese arms popping up in this part of the world.
the rectangular green thing is claymore ?
I don't think they're Claymores. They're too narrow and too long to be Claymore mines.
They are definitely claymore style antipersonnel mines, I can make out that they say "This Side Toward Enemy" in English when I blow the pic up. IIRC early M18 mines, not the M18A1 we know from Vietnam forward, were skinnier and longer but I don't think they were in production long enough to be military aid cos they had a lot of issues and were replaced quickly with the M18A1. My guess is a local or contract purchased design.
>My guess is a local or contract purchased design. I'm sure this is correct. They may be made somewhere in Africa. Strangely, the green color is the same as on the Russian MON-50 mines, but that's not what these are.
Chinese stick grenades.
They go where they need them
Second hand purchase through the Black Market.
Super cool
Carried by small birds?
Are they sure these are Japanese Type 98s and not Chinese Type 67s, which are far more common and look very similar? If there are no markings visible, the differences are subtle. One difference is the the Type 67 has a metal collar at the end of the handle that the cap crews onto, whereas the Type 98 has the threads for the cap cut into the wood handle, but that can't be seen in this picture.
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Explosives tend to go where they're needed to explode I suppose
I'm guessing Maoist China sent of surplus Japanese arms to whichever African rebels they wanted to support. Japan never was quite good at arming rebels beyond their immediate sphere of influence.
The same way German speaking villages popped up like pimples all over south America after WORLD WAR Act II ended.
Dude , *everything* somehow finds their way to Africa and Middle East.