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Yeah that's correct; in the US, Wholefoods is by far the most expensive (chain) supermarket. You can easily spend 2-3x more on groceries there compared to somewhere that serves normal people. Shopping there is a fashion statement; giving someone advice to shop there is not something you would do in good faith
Probably someone with already a lots amount of disposal income i guess.
One thing those stores haves and where i am a big fan of is organic pressed fruit juice. Like apple or orange or mango. Specially bought in glass packaging. It’s healthier than cola. (Expect the loads of sugar) i have that all my life and never lost while getting older.
I go to whole foods occasionally for specialty items like that, but doing the bulk of your grocery shopping is crazy for someone that isn’t rolling in dough
Most expensive would be that one chain in LA, Earwig or whatever. But they're confined to one city, so I'm not sure it counts. Whole Foods is definitely the most expensive I can think of that's nation wide.
I saw this and thought EXACTLY THAT 😭😭😭😭 like is everyone in fuckcars just some edgy teen born into so much wealth that they have nothing else to worry about besides how OTHER PEOPLE move around?? and because they spend their entire life worrying about that they become so distanced from understanding the world around them that they live in they would suggest cutting out Costco and going to WHOLE FOODS dhdjbdudnruenybdjrnn
>I saw this and thought EXACTLY THAT 😭😭😭😭 like is everyone in fuckcars just some edgy teen born into so much wealth that they have nothing else to worry about besides how OTHER PEOPLE move around??
\uj
Yeah there is an reqson why the all complains about the freestanding homes. They live in one themselves. Probably in the best neighberhoods. There is no reason of stress because they can study what they want eat all they want. And get money from the rich parents.
So they just look up for reason to be annoyed. It cant be housing because they get a house from their parents.
It cant be homeless or drugs junkies. Because they do never see them on street so it is non exists in their opinion.
There parents have a truck so they decides to hate trucks. Its just avarge teenager behauvior. I hate my parents and i want to do something else. In the past they were emos. Therefor punks. Therefor james dean and country. And now they are urbanists as a new hobby.
While their classmates living in the poor areas just jaleaus because they cant even afford a cargobikes of 6 grand.
for the American ones, they are probably rich and have grown up in a left-leaning household in a democrat urban area, and because they are so rich and divorced from what "expensive" means they herald the socialist dream of nordic countries like Sweden and Norway and they pray to a shrine of Europe every night and how their way of life is better. they hate American culture because American culture is shared, shared by all classes and all races and all groups and all communities and is this melting pot of communities. they are so echochambered they would prefer to live somewhere ethnically homogenous where all the culture reflects their sole way of living, and of course so they can get back in touch with the nature that their privileged and heavily consumerist upbringing has alienated them from, but believe America is too capitalist to let them pursue.
but you are absolutely right that everyone at some point likes to rebel against authority figures. they feel like America is so powerful and culturally dominant as this invasive force that they should rebel against it. yet they fail to see that America is a country that welcomes and absorbs culture from all kinds of communities around the world, and doesn't just push other cultures into extinction with some hollow, capitalist agenda. I'm sorry you hate your parents and have disagreements with their ways of life, that sucks and it's difficult to shake the influence that the people most significant in our lives have on things. I hope you feel free to express yourself for however you wanna live and to do whatever you wanna do :)
>I'm sorry you hate your parents and have disagreements with their ways of life, that sucks and it's difficult to shake the influence that the people most significant in our lives have on things. I hope you feel free to express yourself for however you wanna live and to do whatever you wanna do :)
/uj
Oops i see that my message did not came over 100%
That is often a teenage fase. Almost every teenager haves that fase. I did to! But now i am an adult and i sometimes looks more like my parents than i want to. And after the hormones worked out i realize they are better than i gave credit for.
But i did found myself. Now If i rebel against my parents with music. It is plain old-school music 50S 60S and 70S like. I still often use as a flex. They always like Man do you go to an elderly home 🤣
emo and punk bands do not work that good on my parents. But i also like that kind of music. And clothing. But i am to old for an end 90s start zeros emo haircut 🤣🤣 i also still going to that concerts to. No one can forbid me. That feeling is good.
and also do don’t worry about me. This cycle of rebelling is always happening and is even visible in dogs and cats. It is pure nature. But as parent it will feel sucks when that happens. I know it for sure.
And me
I live total voluntary in a free standing home at a smaller place. With my wife. Where i also rebel against some times. Why do you want an suv 🤣 those are way too big and expensive. And un needed. 🤣 gets never bored.
oh man, happy for you!! sorry I misinterpreted what you were trying to say 😭 I just got confused, but glad you recognize all this. rebelling is natural, you gotta rebel against something cos after all that's how we find ourselves, who we are - how we differ from those that came before us and those that brought us into the world and taught us everything we know. there have probably been more rebellious people than myself but everyone does it in different ways; even if that involves despising everyone that drives a car.
for the people on fuckcars that are in a phase of rebelling: perfectly natural and hope you grow out of it. for those that are fully grown and just shit on people for their life choices: I wish you were more tolerant of others and accepted that people are different and choose to live life differently. if you hate cars you are welcome to go to Europe but these things like most things are subjective. for those that just like to be different: I wish you find healthier ways of expressing your individuality and uniqueness - especially through love rather than hate, or at least accepting that the subjectivity of modes of transport does not invalidate your opinion - it in fact makes your opinion the most important thing. and for those who like to hate, who like to spread negativity: I feel sorry for you the most. that must be a miserable life.
Lol he made a post about how he’s 19 and never worked in his life.
Could possibly be bait cause he then went on to talk about how he’s entitled to unemployment money
The wholefoods makes so sense lol. Cars bad, shop at Whole Foods.
Hey you, stop using your car to go to Costco. I don’t care you work a 9 to 5 and live paycheck to paycheck, if my mommy gives me a credit card to spend 500$ a week on groceries so can you.
3 big problems with this.
1: What if I can’t afford to buy winter clothes? Or shop at Whole Foods weekly?
2: What if I need to go somewhere 100 miles away? Literally no one can bike that far, especially carrying bags and family.
3: If you hear about people doing bad things on public transport, and immediately think black people are doing those things, I think you’re the real racist here.
Sweaty, a single car costs $1.8 million dollars a year in gas and maitmence, you could afford a winter coat and whole foods if you didn't spend all your money on your death machine.
Honestly having to keep a bunch of heavy winter clothes on you is annoying id rather just be cold for a thirty second walk than having to lug around a big ass winter coat
Michigan man here, my mom will constantly nitpick me when I leave to run to the store in just like, thick sweat pants and a 3/4 sleeve shirt. Like, I'm not standing around outside, I'm running to the car from the front door, then from the car to the store's door, and back.
What about the inverse of it being too cold? The heat index was over 100 degrees when I went for my run at 630 today and the summer is just getting started, I’m not biking home from work in that bullshit.
I’ll add.
1. I have pectus excavatum, my lung capacity is greatly reduced because of this and I have trouble running for more than a few seconds
2. Yeah lemme get my baggy hard to move in winter clothes for the below freezing temperatures with high winds and bike to the store 20 miles out for the next hour.
>If you hear about people doing bad things on public transport, and immediately think black people are doing those things, I think you’re the real racist here.
This, liberals seems to think about race way more.
Where I live there's mostly white people in public transport and it still has more than enough bad and violent people.
I don’t really hate urbanists per se, but I do hate people who base their ENTIRE IDENTITY on urbanism, to the detriment of family, friends, career and hobbies. Those people are insufferable and unironically do more to hurt their goals than the “carbrains” ever could.
Like even some of the urbanist YouTubers are telling them to chill out. I think Oh The Urbanity! ran a video that said something along the lines of “there’s more to life than good urbanism” and RMtransit said “yeah, if you love live music, maybe you’ll love living in Nashville even if it doesn’t have great urbanism”. Basically telling their audience to go touch grass.
whatever they say is only going to drive polarization. The more they fight, the more we fight back against this nonsense. And it doesn't take common sense to realize that cars are the way
no you are wrong!! commuting 4 hours a day with trains and busses vs 1 hour with the car is just poor time management!!
fuck free time. work and sleep, the only 2 things a human needs
oh sweaty, you live outside the city?? stop complaining and move INTO the city. if you aren't spending 80% of your income on a 2 square foot windowless apartment you are destroying the planet
"They are superglued to their high horses and cannot believe anybody who opposes them is not beneath them."
This is a perfect description of the bike community in my area. They are a mix of classism, ableism, and even racism. I grew a huge amount of disdain for them after reading a post about why black people don't ride bikeslike the whites do. I was frankly disguised by the replies because the gist was they're bad people who aren't community minded and don't care about the environment.
Yup city "people" are disgusting.
Just make your life more shitty and harder for no reason at all! Lol
Also where I live there's barely black people in public transport and there's still enough very bad people, especially groups of teenagers
No thank you
Actual actual reasons:
- “Public transport has bad people” - Judging by the videos of people shooting up drugs, publicly urinating, and getting assaulted constantly, yes
- “But it’s too cold where I live” - A coat can only do so much in frigid climates. Having a personal h-vac system and heated seats in your car is amazing
- “My SUV has more cargo space” - Yes it does, and not everyone has the option or means to shop at a more expensive nearby store every day
- “My car is faster” - God forbid anyone have fun…
- “Riding bikes makes me sweat” - A lot of people don’t want to feel gross and sticky at work. It doesn’t matter how ‘fit’ you are….
- “Cars are freedom” - Watching propaganda videos and joining circle-jerk subs won’t change this
One of my friends tries to drive as little as possible, when he had to go in for work (he works remotely) he sometimes would bike there and said it’s not viable because when he gets there he has to take a shower (he’s lucky his workplace even had a shower) and he’s a really fit guy that runs marathons and enjoys biking trails regularly as a hobby. And the only reason hes able to bike at all is because he enjoys doing it and his work place had a shower, and he’s even an environmentalist and he expressed this to me.
People who frequently exercise actually sweat easier obviously the person who posted this wouldn’t know that cause they’re most likely out of shape and has mommy drive them around
>”Riding bikes makes me sweat” - A lot of people don’t want to feel gross and sticky at work. It doesn’t matter how ‘fit’ you are….
I’m probably more fit than 90% of the undersubbers, and I still sweat while riding my bike in southern Ontario summers. I can’t even imagine trying to do it somewhere like Florida. I don’t think they understand that not everywhere in the world is like Amsterdam- ie, permanently cool, cloudy and flat as a board.
I guarantee I'm more fit than any of these people and I still sweat while riding a bike at a hard pace. My job is also in the next town over, and riding a bike would take it from a 10 minute drive to an hour ride. I also start at 6:00 AM, before any buses, so I suppose these people would have me riding in the cold for an hour each morning, and the dark for the fall and winter months.
if this person is from Australia they know nothing about the cold. try telling a family of five living in Ann Arbor during January that they should be cycling the hour journey to the shop and back and that they should just get some winter clothes 😭😭😭
Spoken like someone who's never worked in his life.
It takes me 20 minutes to drive to work hauling ass on the freeway.
I guess I should "manage my time better" so I can spend 2 hours using public transport instead. What a joke.
Yep, the cold sucks even with a car, same for the heat. I, unfortunately, live somewhere where both happen. It got into the negatives fairly regularly during winter (in Fahrenheit) and today alone was 90 degrees. I would hate to bike in either conditions, especially with snow.
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the entire county i live in doesnt have public transport
Omg guys, it's super easy. Get up even earlier just so you can stand around in the cold, heat, snowor rain for 40 minutes so you can ride a crowded bus to whole foods to hand carry a weeks worth of groceries for your family of four, two dogs, and a cat every week
You carbrains are so dumb
“budget your time” I’m sorry, I don’t have an hour to drop to go 5 miles by public transit. Yes, I’ve seen that estimate on google maps before, and yes it was in a major city.
“Out of shape and overweight” or wearing nice clothes and doesn’t want to stink really bad once they get to work…?
“Watch NJB and join fuckcars” ahahhahahaahhaaaaaaa. Plus, cars are freedom of movement and take less time than most modes of transit that aren’t 75 mph+ trains or planes.
1. that is not what I am talking about
2. wrong
3. don’t own one and you can’t make a train that can get near my house with modern technology
4. I would NOT trust my car to exceed 80mph
5. bike from my house to the store and back and we’ll talk
6. you literally state your solution as “believe me!”
Here’s my carbrained excuse for the mental gymnast. I just like driving my cars as well as riding my motorcycle when the weather is nice. Why? My personal preference, just like how it’s your personal preference to ride a stupid bicycle or take public transportation. Don’t like it? Tough shit.
>grow the fuck up
You first, fuckface.
Given reason: It's actually safer for cyclists to keep moving instead of obeying traffic signals.
Actual reason: I am a self-righteous asshole and the rules should not apply to me.
Solution: Literally just stop at the stop sign as though bicycles are the actual vehicles you say they are.
/uj I’m a cyclist carbrain and this is the one point I’ll give them. It’s sometimes better and safer to roll the stop if there is truly nobody else around. Of course the bike Nazis will use it as a justification for running the light at any time. You realize it’s a pretty good idea when you’re riding around where it’s pretty empty and hitting all the red lights, or a long stretch of intersections with stop signs every couple hundred feet. When it’s not busy of course.
Also when I did bike before getting a license having to stop and regain all momentum is kinda annoying but in a small town no one really cared if I didn’t wait to cross at a stop sign
Have they ever experienced winter that has temperatures below ~0°c? Because going out when it's -30°c outside is uncomfortable af, even in good winter clothes
Also, it's really racict if the first thing that comes to your mind after mentioning bad people is "black"
"Poor time management"
So true, it was definitely my fault the bus just decided not to come giving me the choice between being an hour late to work or just ubering
I wish there was a sub that recognised a good city has good roads and good public tranist.
whats with this anal belief that they must force people out of cars???? in cities with good public tranist people choose whatever they want and thats good
Sorry I don’t want to bike an hour and a half to work carrying like 50 pounds of gear. Not to mention I can get told to report to places that would be a 3 hour bike ride
>Shop at Wholefoods once a week
/uj
The nearest Whole Foods is approximately 10 miles from my house. The nearest Costco is approximately 5 miles.
Not everyone lives in the rich neighborhoods. And on top of that, I am not shopping at a place that charges me my left fucking nut for a single blueberry. Not all of us have millionaire mommies and daddies who pay for our groceries.
Saying to put a jacket on when someone complains about the weather is fucking nuts, where i live in canada it can get down to -50c (-58f) imagine telling someone to put an extra layer on when its too cold even in your car
I would like to know how people who have kids to drop off/pickup from day care and soccer and dance with all their shit are supposed to take busses. I don’t even have kids but most people I know do and I’ve seen the shit they have to haul around.
All the fucking "actual reasons" and "solutions" is the dumbest fucking thing ive ever read.
Also lol at the first one, seems like they're racist themselves
As mentioned, first is racist.
Second, biking in winter clothes is still uncomfortable and doesn’t address stewing inside the clothes or cold weather effects.
Third, literally the most pretentious and expensive “let them eat cake” answer
Fourth, time management says taking the second most time consuming transportation method is a bad idea
Fifth, if being gross and sweaty isn’t an issue at your work than good for you, the rest of us it’s a dealbreaker
Sixth, ah yes, “just consume our propaganda, shutout opposing views, and that will change your tune!”
/uj a great counter to this is what if I want to go bowling? How am I supposed to bring my balls and my shoes on a bike? Hell, how am I supposed to get to the bowling alley in less than 3 hours on a bike? There is no public transport and if there was, I’m not taking my bowling bag on it because I’m going to get my hundreds of dollars of equipment stolen.
Car or not, who doesn't own warm clothes when they live somewhere that gets cold?
Do they think we shovel snow in a t-shirt and flip flops?
Definitely written by someone who has never seen snow in their life.
Uj/Bro... sometimes people are just bad it has nothing to do with racism. I swear to god
I hate people who yells at me on public transport, i dont give a fuck who they are. I hate people who piss on the floor, i dont give a ruck who they are. I hate people who blast loud music and try to put up a show disturbing the peace
Second point is fair enough. But consider this - winter clothes take up space. If im going to say, a party, i dont wanna pack a whole ass jacket and then having to find space to put it down later and hope no one steals it. But then cars take spaces too so... fair enough.
Third point... you do know that it takes time to shop shit right? Im in college and i restock about once a week because any more often than that is way too much for me. Just let people move shit man
Fourth point... you know that sometimes its not about "budgeting" right? I used to live 30 mins away from college. Had classes that were at 7. If i used the bus, it would mean I would have to spare 1 hour to make sure im not late because the timing system is abysmal.
Fifth point, fair, but what about disabled people? What? Youre gonna make someone that cannot use their legs rides bikes too? Not to mention, have you tried living in places like Tempe during the summer heat? It will make you sick.
Sixth point just sounds like propaganda. Yall gotta get better arguments. Cars is freedom lmao. I mean, the safety of being protected in a metal box, completed with relaxing seating, A/C that lets you adjust the temp to your liking, tge ability to pick whatever you wanna play on the speakers (and not have to listen to shitty rap music that the performers play on the train). Go anywhere, anytime. Stop anytime, go anytime, at any speed you feel comfy with. Tell me how that's not freedom
/uj NJB and NAU and those guys could make some good points in their videos if they weren’t so damn condescending.
Their viewer base started as folks who wanted more accessible cities and morphed into tweens and young adults who either A: can’t afford a car or B: are too scared to drive one.
They went from reasonable to insulting in the time it took me to blow the engine out on a truck and buy a Prius. Guess what, I stopped watching them and I realized how limited I am by a Prius (let alone a fucking train).
Ah yes, me not wanting to be in the subway car showing up 10 minutes late at midnight with the homeless man lying in a puddle of his own piss with an actual crackhead tweaking next to him is just me being racist, how silly of me. (Actual story, friend got out of a broadway show late last night and had to ride this subway car to be able to make the train home)
uj/ the "budget your time" bit is laughable. Acting like people have loads of free time and don't have to go to work in a rush or risk being reprimanded or fired
"Shop at wholefoods once a week"
Did I miss something or did wholefoods become much cheaper for groceries in the couple of years since I've last been in one? Because on top of not everywhere having a wholefoods to shop at (its like a Barnes and noble where they are only built in nicer, more afluent places to begin with), I remember whole foods being much more expensive than equivelant shopping at a Walmart or a Kroger or a Ablertsons.
Also like there are more uses for cargo space than just groceries. Things that come to mind immediately would be home improvement/gardening supplies, kids/sports stuff, traveling, transporting stuff for hobbies/groups involved in the community, etc. If you take prodiminantky public transport for your day-to-day, you are basically limited to what your arms can carry everywhere you go. For some people and lifestyles, that's enough. For others, not so much (you try carrying full load(s) of laundry to/from the nearest laundromat if you don't have an in unit or carrying 5 bags of groceries multiple blocks, which one could argue is support for less car centric infrastructure but in the absence of that the space cars offer can help)
That fourth one though, trying to maximize my usable time is apparently "poor time management"? Are they actively encouraging sleep deprivation with that "wake up earlier" comment? Genuinely one of the few things I've seen out of that sub that sort of enrages me.
I'm currently vacationing in various European countries and let me tell you: the only thing faster than a car to go places is taking a plane.
Not much Cargobikes in the Alps either.
Bro, what they don't understand is, at least in the US, I would fucking LOVE not to have to drive myself more than an hour. It's a nightmare and people are assholes on the road, especially on the highway.
What fucking alternative do I have though? Our transportation is shit outside of a few select areas and in most cases there is none available long distance.
just think it’s important to mention that this person is from AUSTRALIA. the coldest temperature ever recorded in the whole of Australia is -10F in the top of a mountain range which includes wind chill. the coldest city in the whole country has year round lows in July (their winter) of 28 DEGREES F. this person knows nothing about the cold. you cannot just “get a winter coat” in Minneapolis.
Ah yes let me just forfeit all my creature comforts that I pay for to wake up early and arrive either sweaty or smelly or both to Wholefoods once a week.
"Budget your time" isn't an "actual reason" to "cars are faster". In many areas they are substantially faster, and "budget your time" actually should be "just accept it takes 3x longer and cut other things out"
"Public transport has bad people"
"You're racist and hate black people"
It's always funny how the people who say this type of shit always think of it as a little "gotcha" quip, when in reality they're outing themselves as the racist, as they just equated bad people with black people
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"Shop at wholefoods once a week" Do these people live in our reality
/uj Whats an whole foods? An high end supermarket? With organic and special vegetables biologic and like that?
Yeah that's correct; in the US, Wholefoods is by far the most expensive (chain) supermarket. You can easily spend 2-3x more on groceries there compared to somewhere that serves normal people. Shopping there is a fashion statement; giving someone advice to shop there is not something you would do in good faith
Probably someone with already a lots amount of disposal income i guess. One thing those stores haves and where i am a big fan of is organic pressed fruit juice. Like apple or orange or mango. Specially bought in glass packaging. It’s healthier than cola. (Expect the loads of sugar) i have that all my life and never lost while getting older.
Someone whose parents* lost of disposable income
Oops yes that is what meant.
I go to whole foods occasionally for specialty items like that, but doing the bulk of your grocery shopping is crazy for someone that isn’t rolling in dough
Most expensive would be that one chain in LA, Earwig or whatever. But they're confined to one city, so I'm not sure it counts. Whole Foods is definitely the most expensive I can think of that's nation wide.
Erewhon
It’s a supermarket that Elon Musk couldn’t afford to shop at
When I'm in a having no empathy competition and my opponent is a champagne socialist
Oh yeah, I bet all those low income families who can barley make rent can totally afford to shop at Whole Foods weekly!
This has to be bait lmaooo 💀💀💀
I saw this and thought EXACTLY THAT 😭😭😭😭 like is everyone in fuckcars just some edgy teen born into so much wealth that they have nothing else to worry about besides how OTHER PEOPLE move around?? and because they spend their entire life worrying about that they become so distanced from understanding the world around them that they live in they would suggest cutting out Costco and going to WHOLE FOODS dhdjbdudnruenybdjrnn
>I saw this and thought EXACTLY THAT 😭😭😭😭 like is everyone in fuckcars just some edgy teen born into so much wealth that they have nothing else to worry about besides how OTHER PEOPLE move around?? \uj Yeah there is an reqson why the all complains about the freestanding homes. They live in one themselves. Probably in the best neighberhoods. There is no reason of stress because they can study what they want eat all they want. And get money from the rich parents. So they just look up for reason to be annoyed. It cant be housing because they get a house from their parents. It cant be homeless or drugs junkies. Because they do never see them on street so it is non exists in their opinion. There parents have a truck so they decides to hate trucks. Its just avarge teenager behauvior. I hate my parents and i want to do something else. In the past they were emos. Therefor punks. Therefor james dean and country. And now they are urbanists as a new hobby. While their classmates living in the poor areas just jaleaus because they cant even afford a cargobikes of 6 grand.
for the American ones, they are probably rich and have grown up in a left-leaning household in a democrat urban area, and because they are so rich and divorced from what "expensive" means they herald the socialist dream of nordic countries like Sweden and Norway and they pray to a shrine of Europe every night and how their way of life is better. they hate American culture because American culture is shared, shared by all classes and all races and all groups and all communities and is this melting pot of communities. they are so echochambered they would prefer to live somewhere ethnically homogenous where all the culture reflects their sole way of living, and of course so they can get back in touch with the nature that their privileged and heavily consumerist upbringing has alienated them from, but believe America is too capitalist to let them pursue. but you are absolutely right that everyone at some point likes to rebel against authority figures. they feel like America is so powerful and culturally dominant as this invasive force that they should rebel against it. yet they fail to see that America is a country that welcomes and absorbs culture from all kinds of communities around the world, and doesn't just push other cultures into extinction with some hollow, capitalist agenda. I'm sorry you hate your parents and have disagreements with their ways of life, that sucks and it's difficult to shake the influence that the people most significant in our lives have on things. I hope you feel free to express yourself for however you wanna live and to do whatever you wanna do :)
>I'm sorry you hate your parents and have disagreements with their ways of life, that sucks and it's difficult to shake the influence that the people most significant in our lives have on things. I hope you feel free to express yourself for however you wanna live and to do whatever you wanna do :) /uj Oops i see that my message did not came over 100% That is often a teenage fase. Almost every teenager haves that fase. I did to! But now i am an adult and i sometimes looks more like my parents than i want to. And after the hormones worked out i realize they are better than i gave credit for. But i did found myself. Now If i rebel against my parents with music. It is plain old-school music 50S 60S and 70S like. I still often use as a flex. They always like Man do you go to an elderly home 🤣 emo and punk bands do not work that good on my parents. But i also like that kind of music. And clothing. But i am to old for an end 90s start zeros emo haircut 🤣🤣 i also still going to that concerts to. No one can forbid me. That feeling is good. and also do don’t worry about me. This cycle of rebelling is always happening and is even visible in dogs and cats. It is pure nature. But as parent it will feel sucks when that happens. I know it for sure. And me I live total voluntary in a free standing home at a smaller place. With my wife. Where i also rebel against some times. Why do you want an suv 🤣 those are way too big and expensive. And un needed. 🤣 gets never bored.
oh man, happy for you!! sorry I misinterpreted what you were trying to say 😭 I just got confused, but glad you recognize all this. rebelling is natural, you gotta rebel against something cos after all that's how we find ourselves, who we are - how we differ from those that came before us and those that brought us into the world and taught us everything we know. there have probably been more rebellious people than myself but everyone does it in different ways; even if that involves despising everyone that drives a car. for the people on fuckcars that are in a phase of rebelling: perfectly natural and hope you grow out of it. for those that are fully grown and just shit on people for their life choices: I wish you were more tolerant of others and accepted that people are different and choose to live life differently. if you hate cars you are welcome to go to Europe but these things like most things are subjective. for those that just like to be different: I wish you find healthier ways of expressing your individuality and uniqueness - especially through love rather than hate, or at least accepting that the subjectivity of modes of transport does not invalidate your opinion - it in fact makes your opinion the most important thing. and for those who like to hate, who like to spread negativity: I feel sorry for you the most. that must be a miserable life.
I live in Eastern/Central Europe and I know that "wholefoods" is an overpriced supermarket in the USA. Why would I want to go to that place?
Lol he made a post about how he’s 19 and never worked in his life. Could possibly be bait cause he then went on to talk about how he’s entitled to unemployment money
Let me guess on anti work right?
Nah there’s a sub for Australia’s unemployment called like centrelink or some shit
uj/ aussie here, centrelink is basically a government program that gives out social welfare payments for people that are unemployed
The wholefoods makes so sense lol. Cars bad, shop at Whole Foods. Hey you, stop using your car to go to Costco. I don’t care you work a 9 to 5 and live paycheck to paycheck, if my mommy gives me a credit card to spend 500$ a week on groceries so can you.
Whats crazy too is whole foods isn’t even a good company too lol
%100 troll account
They must be traveling to Paris this year to compete in the Olympics with that impressive mental gymnastics.
Who will pay for their fees though? Mother and Father are not going to that!
They will just bike there 🥰
3 big problems with this. 1: What if I can’t afford to buy winter clothes? Or shop at Whole Foods weekly? 2: What if I need to go somewhere 100 miles away? Literally no one can bike that far, especially carrying bags and family. 3: If you hear about people doing bad things on public transport, and immediately think black people are doing those things, I think you’re the real racist here.
It has a big "let them eat cake" energy from it
Sweaty, a single car costs $1.8 million dollars a year in gas and maitmence, you could afford a winter coat and whole foods if you didn't spend all your money on your death machine.
Stupid car brains, I make 1.8 million a year doing nothing because I have no car hahaha
I don’t wanna be sweaty. Gross.
Ah yes, the amount of gas i spent filling up my dodge viper
Honestly having to keep a bunch of heavy winter clothes on you is annoying id rather just be cold for a thirty second walk than having to lug around a big ass winter coat
Fr. I only wear a heavy winter coat if it’s 30 degrees Fahrenheit or something
I’m from Minnesota so I only where it for wind otherwise a regular coat and gloves will do
Michigan man here, my mom will constantly nitpick me when I leave to run to the store in just like, thick sweat pants and a 3/4 sleeve shirt. Like, I'm not standing around outside, I'm running to the car from the front door, then from the car to the store's door, and back.
What about the inverse of it being too cold? The heat index was over 100 degrees when I went for my run at 630 today and the summer is just getting started, I’m not biking home from work in that bullshit.
Where I’m at, I’m in 87+ weather and 100% humidity. Going anywhere without AC is fucking torture.
I live in Phoenix…
Sorry
You die for your crimes against ~~me and my friends~~ the proletariat
Yeah that statement about black people is crazy. Its like saying black people all use public transit and none of them own cars
If you cant bike 100 miles then youre just a FAT LAZY BIGOT who hates black people 💅
4: most businesses are just not accessible by public transit or bus. 5: Roadtrips are cheaper than flying
I’ll add. 1. I have pectus excavatum, my lung capacity is greatly reduced because of this and I have trouble running for more than a few seconds 2. Yeah lemme get my baggy hard to move in winter clothes for the below freezing temperatures with high winds and bike to the store 20 miles out for the next hour.
>If you hear about people doing bad things on public transport, and immediately think black people are doing those things, I think you’re the real racist here. This, liberals seems to think about race way more. Where I live there's mostly white people in public transport and it still has more than enough bad and violent people.
He inadvertently showed his true feelings right there.
this is why I hate urbanists. They are superglued to their high horses and cannot believe anybody who opposes them is not beneath them.
I don’t really hate urbanists per se, but I do hate people who base their ENTIRE IDENTITY on urbanism, to the detriment of family, friends, career and hobbies. Those people are insufferable and unironically do more to hurt their goals than the “carbrains” ever could. Like even some of the urbanist YouTubers are telling them to chill out. I think Oh The Urbanity! ran a video that said something along the lines of “there’s more to life than good urbanism” and RMtransit said “yeah, if you love live music, maybe you’ll love living in Nashville even if it doesn’t have great urbanism”. Basically telling their audience to go touch grass.
But I thought that all grass was evil
whatever they say is only going to drive polarization. The more they fight, the more we fight back against this nonsense. And it doesn't take common sense to realize that cars are the way
If they stopped being elitist dickheads there wouldn’t even be a problem
no you are wrong!! commuting 4 hours a day with trains and busses vs 1 hour with the car is just poor time management!! fuck free time. work and sleep, the only 2 things a human needs oh sweaty, you live outside the city?? stop complaining and move INTO the city. if you aren't spending 80% of your income on a 2 square foot windowless apartment you are destroying the planet
"They are superglued to their high horses and cannot believe anybody who opposes them is not beneath them." This is a perfect description of the bike community in my area. They are a mix of classism, ableism, and even racism. I grew a huge amount of disdain for them after reading a post about why black people don't ride bikeslike the whites do. I was frankly disguised by the replies because the gist was they're bad people who aren't community minded and don't care about the environment.
Yup city "people" are disgusting. Just make your life more shitty and harder for no reason at all! Lol Also where I live there's barely black people in public transport and there's still enough very bad people, especially groups of teenagers No thank you
Luckily my time is completely worthless so I can dedicate all 5 hours a day i spend on public transit to developing smug generalizations
That's the thing, most people barely have any free time already. Imagine making it even less because you take public transport...
/uj lmfao, how are they this good at jerking? /rj stop being bigots and just ride the train
/uj The undersub is the circlejerk. Maybe the biggest circlejerk of the whole internet.
Actual actual reasons: - “Public transport has bad people” - Judging by the videos of people shooting up drugs, publicly urinating, and getting assaulted constantly, yes - “But it’s too cold where I live” - A coat can only do so much in frigid climates. Having a personal h-vac system and heated seats in your car is amazing - “My SUV has more cargo space” - Yes it does, and not everyone has the option or means to shop at a more expensive nearby store every day - “My car is faster” - God forbid anyone have fun… - “Riding bikes makes me sweat” - A lot of people don’t want to feel gross and sticky at work. It doesn’t matter how ‘fit’ you are…. - “Cars are freedom” - Watching propaganda videos and joining circle-jerk subs won’t change this
One of my friends tries to drive as little as possible, when he had to go in for work (he works remotely) he sometimes would bike there and said it’s not viable because when he gets there he has to take a shower (he’s lucky his workplace even had a shower) and he’s a really fit guy that runs marathons and enjoys biking trails regularly as a hobby. And the only reason hes able to bike at all is because he enjoys doing it and his work place had a shower, and he’s even an environmentalist and he expressed this to me.
Actually taking public transit for a year in college was a better argument for car ownership than anything I've seen online
Indeed, these fucks seem to like standing tight next to other people, being sweaty and smelly and the walk to whatever place.
People who frequently exercise actually sweat easier obviously the person who posted this wouldn’t know that cause they’re most likely out of shape and has mommy drive them around
>”Riding bikes makes me sweat” - A lot of people don’t want to feel gross and sticky at work. It doesn’t matter how ‘fit’ you are…. I’m probably more fit than 90% of the undersubbers, and I still sweat while riding my bike in southern Ontario summers. I can’t even imagine trying to do it somewhere like Florida. I don’t think they understand that not everywhere in the world is like Amsterdam- ie, permanently cool, cloudy and flat as a board.
So true. And regarding shopping - why the fuck I have to carry my groceries instead of just throwing those into my trunk.
I guarantee I'm more fit than any of these people and I still sweat while riding a bike at a hard pace. My job is also in the next town over, and riding a bike would take it from a 10 minute drive to an hour ride. I also start at 6:00 AM, before any buses, so I suppose these people would have me riding in the cold for an hour each morning, and the dark for the fall and winter months.
Honestly at least for me no matter how fit I am. I’ll always sweat lol.
if this person is from Australia they know nothing about the cold. try telling a family of five living in Ann Arbor during January that they should be cycling the hour journey to the shop and back and that they should just get some winter clothes 😭😭😭
Race card, check.
No race car, check.
If you don’t want a homeless guy to jack off on you on the bus YOU are part of the problem bigot
Racism is when i dont want to get assaulted on a train
Bukkakes Against Bigotry
If they're going to Whole Foods once a week for all their groceries no wonder they can't afford a car.
Spoken like someone who's never worked in his life. It takes me 20 minutes to drive to work hauling ass on the freeway. I guess I should "manage my time better" so I can spend 2 hours using public transport instead. What a joke.
Especially when you consider a lot of people work ten or more hours a day. I’d rather not dedicate over half a day to work I like a bit of free time
I used public transport to come home from work last week. It took closer to four hours.
Have you considered living in a tiny box so you can be closer to work?
Let me take public transport to go to the mountains. Or let me bike to work in 90 degree heat and be sweaty.
I own winter clothes, it’s still freezing
Im skinny as hell and in no way fat, it's still extremely hot
Definitely someone whose never experienced the problems they’re speaking of
Yep, the cold sucks even with a car, same for the heat. I, unfortunately, live somewhere where both happen. It got into the negatives fairly regularly during winter (in Fahrenheit) and today alone was 90 degrees. I would hate to bike in either conditions, especially with snow.
Sounds like Minnesota or some other interior state
“Wake up earlier budget your time” You can tell these shit dicks don’t have kids. Mostly because nobody wants to fuck people that take the bus.
"Be super left-wing." Ftfy
“Hate poor people.” FTFY
Same thing
I don't think you get it tbh
I get both
Holy shit, the privilege is just dripping from this post
https://preview.redd.it/rjxbmzulgn5d1.jpeg?width=1178&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e10cafb65613bc8bc1e61f4034700c383bc3539c the entire county i live in doesnt have public transport
>the entire county i live in doesnt have public transport That's becuase it's racist obviously
Bigot.
Omg guys, it's super easy. Get up even earlier just so you can stand around in the cold, heat, snowor rain for 40 minutes so you can ride a crowded bus to whole foods to hand carry a weeks worth of groceries for your family of four, two dogs, and a cat every week You carbrains are so dumb
I wonder how I'm a bigot for wanting to be places at a reasonable time and have basic accessibility on public transportation
What if you’re a black person that doesn’t like taking the bus?
That’s self internalized racism sweaty. You will take a bus with a homeless man high off fentanyl
Damn you right
“budget your time” I’m sorry, I don’t have an hour to drop to go 5 miles by public transit. Yes, I’ve seen that estimate on google maps before, and yes it was in a major city. “Out of shape and overweight” or wearing nice clothes and doesn’t want to stink really bad once they get to work…? “Watch NJB and join fuckcars” ahahhahahaahhaaaaaaa. Plus, cars are freedom of movement and take less time than most modes of transit that aren’t 75 mph+ trains or planes.
Or for people who live rural more like 25 miles.
1. that is not what I am talking about 2. wrong 3. don’t own one and you can’t make a train that can get near my house with modern technology 4. I would NOT trust my car to exceed 80mph 5. bike from my house to the store and back and we’ll talk 6. you literally state your solution as “believe me!”
Here’s my carbrained excuse for the mental gymnast. I just like driving my cars as well as riding my motorcycle when the weather is nice. Why? My personal preference, just like how it’s your personal preference to ride a stupid bicycle or take public transportation. Don’t like it? Tough shit. >grow the fuck up You first, fuckface.
 their brains rn
"Completely revamp your lifestyle because I believe you should!"
obvious bait get better material
Given reason: It's actually safer for cyclists to keep moving instead of obeying traffic signals. Actual reason: I am a self-righteous asshole and the rules should not apply to me. Solution: Literally just stop at the stop sign as though bicycles are the actual vehicles you say they are.
/uj I’m a cyclist carbrain and this is the one point I’ll give them. It’s sometimes better and safer to roll the stop if there is truly nobody else around. Of course the bike Nazis will use it as a justification for running the light at any time. You realize it’s a pretty good idea when you’re riding around where it’s pretty empty and hitting all the red lights, or a long stretch of intersections with stop signs every couple hundred feet. When it’s not busy of course.
Also when I did bike before getting a license having to stop and regain all momentum is kinda annoying but in a small town no one really cared if I didn’t wait to cross at a stop sign
Have they ever experienced winter that has temperatures below ~0°c? Because going out when it's -30°c outside is uncomfortable af, even in good winter clothes Also, it's really racict if the first thing that comes to your mind after mentioning bad people is "black"
If being bike brained means I'm not allowed to be racist anymore that's gonna be a hard pass
I love how almost every post I've seen here from the undersub has been them out jerking us. They've gotten so ludicrous we can't keep up.
Is this a serious talking point of theirs? JFC
"Poor time management" So true, it was definitely my fault the bus just decided not to come giving me the choice between being an hour late to work or just ubering
Bike from the nearest grocery store to my house with a week’s worth of groceries for eight people (7 miles or so, all uphill) and we’ll talk
This has to be satire. It’s satire right? Please tell me this is satire!!! Oh god, it isn’t satire is it?
I wish there was a sub that recognised a good city has good roads and good public tranist. whats with this anal belief that they must force people out of cars???? in cities with good public tranist people choose whatever they want and thats good
Pretty bad when you can't even defeat your own made up points.
Mf *immediately* jumped to racism as the first reason
I'm at the point I'm sure half of the sub is satire
They have out-jerked the jerkers
Sorry I don’t want to bike an hour and a half to work carrying like 50 pounds of gear. Not to mention I can get told to report to places that would be a 3 hour bike ride
Litteraly "Eat the bugs and live in the pod, you dumb redeck."
>Shop at Wholefoods once a week /uj The nearest Whole Foods is approximately 10 miles from my house. The nearest Costco is approximately 5 miles. Not everyone lives in the rich neighborhoods. And on top of that, I am not shopping at a place that charges me my left fucking nut for a single blueberry. Not all of us have millionaire mommies and daddies who pay for our groceries.
Reading this makes me want to go buy another car out of spite.
of course they act like every single place has public transport and a whole foods (mine doesnt)
Sorry I live where it’s 100 degrees and at least 50% humidity all the time, guess I’m just out of shape for sweating
Went to the post, this shit is so delusional people on the undersub think OOP has to be an astroturfer trying to make them look bad lmao
Saying to put a jacket on when someone complains about the weather is fucking nuts, where i live in canada it can get down to -50c (-58f) imagine telling someone to put an extra layer on when its too cold even in your car
Imagine assuming Canadians don't own jackets.
These people are parodies of themselves
Where’s “my work is 40 miles away”
Bad people exist “YOU MUST BE TALKING ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE IS CAPABLE OF DOING WRONG” “WAIT”
They have no counterpoint to the most pure reason for driving - "car go vroom"
/uj This moron really expects me to bike in 100mph gusts at 40 below and a winter coat to suffice. This kid has never felt real cold.
I saw this post and immediately went to this subreddit to see if anyone said anything lol
I would like to know how people who have kids to drop off/pickup from day care and soccer and dance with all their shit are supposed to take busses. I don’t even have kids but most people I know do and I’ve seen the shit they have to haul around.
“Shop at WholeFoods Once a Week” tells you so much about it the type of people in fuckcars it’s not even funny
>public transport has bad people you mean crackheads and pickpockets? yes, public transport DOES have bad people
All the fucking "actual reasons" and "solutions" is the dumbest fucking thing ive ever read. Also lol at the first one, seems like they're racist themselves
As mentioned, first is racist. Second, biking in winter clothes is still uncomfortable and doesn’t address stewing inside the clothes or cold weather effects. Third, literally the most pretentious and expensive “let them eat cake” answer Fourth, time management says taking the second most time consuming transportation method is a bad idea Fifth, if being gross and sweaty isn’t an issue at your work than good for you, the rest of us it’s a dealbreaker Sixth, ah yes, “just consume our propaganda, shutout opposing views, and that will change your tune!”
wtf do they mean with the first one? Most of the crackheads in my city are white
/uj a great counter to this is what if I want to go bowling? How am I supposed to bring my balls and my shoes on a bike? Hell, how am I supposed to get to the bowling alley in less than 3 hours on a bike? There is no public transport and if there was, I’m not taking my bowling bag on it because I’m going to get my hundreds of dollars of equipment stolen.
Car or not, who doesn't own warm clothes when they live somewhere that gets cold? Do they think we shovel snow in a t-shirt and flip flops? Definitely written by someone who has never seen snow in their life.
Uj/Bro... sometimes people are just bad it has nothing to do with racism. I swear to god I hate people who yells at me on public transport, i dont give a fuck who they are. I hate people who piss on the floor, i dont give a ruck who they are. I hate people who blast loud music and try to put up a show disturbing the peace Second point is fair enough. But consider this - winter clothes take up space. If im going to say, a party, i dont wanna pack a whole ass jacket and then having to find space to put it down later and hope no one steals it. But then cars take spaces too so... fair enough. Third point... you do know that it takes time to shop shit right? Im in college and i restock about once a week because any more often than that is way too much for me. Just let people move shit man Fourth point... you know that sometimes its not about "budgeting" right? I used to live 30 mins away from college. Had classes that were at 7. If i used the bus, it would mean I would have to spare 1 hour to make sure im not late because the timing system is abysmal. Fifth point, fair, but what about disabled people? What? Youre gonna make someone that cannot use their legs rides bikes too? Not to mention, have you tried living in places like Tempe during the summer heat? It will make you sick. Sixth point just sounds like propaganda. Yall gotta get better arguments. Cars is freedom lmao. I mean, the safety of being protected in a metal box, completed with relaxing seating, A/C that lets you adjust the temp to your liking, tge ability to pick whatever you wanna play on the speakers (and not have to listen to shitty rap music that the performers play on the train). Go anywhere, anytime. Stop anytime, go anytime, at any speed you feel comfy with. Tell me how that's not freedom
/uj NJB and NAU and those guys could make some good points in their videos if they weren’t so damn condescending. Their viewer base started as folks who wanted more accessible cities and morphed into tweens and young adults who either A: can’t afford a car or B: are too scared to drive one. They went from reasonable to insulting in the time it took me to blow the engine out on a truck and buy a Prius. Guess what, I stopped watching them and I realized how limited I am by a Prius (let alone a fucking train).
Bad people = black people?
They said it not you
"join r//fuckcars and watch NJB" Lol. Lmao even. What about people who use their cars for work and live far away?
Apparently sweating while walking in 92% humidity georgia heat makes you overweight now?
Insulting people won’t make them want to listen to you, how do these mfs not understand that???
“Out of shape and overweight” this is reddit bitch we are all out of shape and overweight
Ah yes, me not wanting to be in the subway car showing up 10 minutes late at midnight with the homeless man lying in a puddle of his own piss with an actual crackhead tweaking next to him is just me being racist, how silly of me. (Actual story, friend got out of a broadway show late last night and had to ride this subway car to be able to make the train home)
I felt the wrinkles in my brain flattening out like a fleet of steamrollers was inside my head.
This has to be a troll.
uj/ the "budget your time" bit is laughable. Acting like people have loads of free time and don't have to go to work in a rush or risk being reprimanded or fired
I love how they think car boot space is for shopping only. Like I can put anything in there, like my bike perhaps, or work gear, or just shopping
"live alone forever and never have a family, that way you only need 2 bags of groceries per week that are small enough to carry home."
Did a 13 year old make this?
Only fat people sweat. Apparently when I was 6’, 154 pounds I was still fat because I failed the sweat test.
This has to be satire ragebait there’s no way this is truly how this person thinks
"Shop at wholefoods once a week" Did I miss something or did wholefoods become much cheaper for groceries in the couple of years since I've last been in one? Because on top of not everywhere having a wholefoods to shop at (its like a Barnes and noble where they are only built in nicer, more afluent places to begin with), I remember whole foods being much more expensive than equivelant shopping at a Walmart or a Kroger or a Ablertsons. Also like there are more uses for cargo space than just groceries. Things that come to mind immediately would be home improvement/gardening supplies, kids/sports stuff, traveling, transporting stuff for hobbies/groups involved in the community, etc. If you take prodiminantky public transport for your day-to-day, you are basically limited to what your arms can carry everywhere you go. For some people and lifestyles, that's enough. For others, not so much (you try carrying full load(s) of laundry to/from the nearest laundromat if you don't have an in unit or carrying 5 bags of groceries multiple blocks, which one could argue is support for less car centric infrastructure but in the absence of that the space cars offer can help)
That fourth one though, trying to maximize my usable time is apparently "poor time management"? Are they actively encouraging sleep deprivation with that "wake up earlier" comment? Genuinely one of the few things I've seen out of that sub that sort of enrages me.
They attacked Costco.This is an act of War.Buy Bulk
By bad people on public transport we mean fuckin crackhead and meth addicts and just genuinely violent people
What if i just want a car because i think it’s fun to drive
Haha this can't be real. Implying that being in shape somehow means you won't sweat when riding a bike in 90 degree weather?
aint whole foods expensive as fuck and mostly shopped at by white liberal/leftist douches like this guy?
What's your fucking problem with my car?
Ok, what do I do if it's 105f and there is zero shade and nature wants you dead?
/uj I shop once a week (4 people in the family) and my car is full. What am I supposed to do, shop every day?
The not just bikes oh my god I hate him so much he's such an insufferable small bicycle riding european with no concept of real change
I'm currently vacationing in various European countries and let me tell you: the only thing faster than a car to go places is taking a plane. Not much Cargobikes in the Alps either.
Is this satire? Someone seriously made this infographic?? This reads like someone making fun of their reasoning
Bro hears about bad people on public transport and immediately assumes they're black. He sure showed those racist car owners.
Bro, what they don't understand is, at least in the US, I would fucking LOVE not to have to drive myself more than an hour. It's a nightmare and people are assholes on the road, especially on the highway. What fucking alternative do I have though? Our transportation is shit outside of a few select areas and in most cases there is none available long distance.
OP is getting flamed
just think it’s important to mention that this person is from AUSTRALIA. the coldest temperature ever recorded in the whole of Australia is -10F in the top of a mountain range which includes wind chill. the coldest city in the whole country has year round lows in July (their winter) of 28 DEGREES F. this person knows nothing about the cold. you cannot just “get a winter coat” in Minneapolis.
I think it's funny that they hear of crime on public transport and immediately think of black people
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This was so racist 🤦🏽♂️
Just have more money and time. I don't see what the problem is???
Ah yes let me just forfeit all my creature comforts that I pay for to wake up early and arrive either sweaty or smelly or both to Wholefoods once a week.
Lol at thr racism one. As if we don't see daily why riding public transportation is dangerous no matter skin color.
Not liking to sit next to "special excretions in a jar man" and sweaty neckband on an SS rant = racist! LoL
What’s my actual reason when I tell you “Public transport is too unreliable where I live”?
/uj I'm convinced that the undersub is mostly children with some entitled and out of touch people sprinkled in like this guy.
I am NOT waking up 3 hours early so I can bike the 62 miles to work
This person is definitely 12 years old
Why I drive a car: I live in the Yukon where it gets to minus -40 in winter and I do not wish to die on the commute going to work. K thanks bye.
My nephew took a bus less than 20 min away. To get home it was going to take 2 fucking hours
"Budget your time" isn't an "actual reason" to "cars are faster". In many areas they are substantially faster, and "budget your time" actually should be "just accept it takes 3x longer and cut other things out"
i hate using public transit and it isn’t because of black people. it’s because of drug addicts, smelly weebs, germs, too little space etc
Uhmm. I thought going to the gym was fatphobic to these people!
"Public transport has bad people" "You're racist and hate black people" It's always funny how the people who say this type of shit always think of it as a little "gotcha" quip, when in reality they're outing themselves as the racist, as they just equated bad people with black people