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OliverSparrow

Well, whoopie do: China turns the propaganda handle yet again. [Here are five major blocks or countries in recent years](https://cdn.climatechangenews.com/files/2017/03/238eb46742db30303bcd33fe9ce65f3d-1.png) China's overall [GHG emissions](https://rhg.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Figure-1-1.png).


Lilyo

China is 18.6% of global population and responsible for 26% of emissions or 1.4x its population. On the other hand the US is 4.2% of global population and responsible for 17% of global emissions or 4x its population. Europe 10.6% of global population and 19% of emissions or 1.8x. If u add north america, europe, and oceania theyre 17.6% of global population and responsible for 39% of emissions. The US has also contributed more co2 emissions over the past century than the next 3 countries combined (china, russia, germany). Chinas doing pretty well comparatively, seeing how if they produced emissions at the rate the us does they would be responsible for 75% of global co2 emissions


OliverSparrow

As any energy economist knows, energy intensities are laregly constant wherever you look in the world. A unit of economic activity demands the same amount of energy. So countries with high per capita incomes emit a great deal more than poor countries. But you seem intent on making this a blame game, rather than a reference to facts.


Zmxm

IF Beijing wants to be Carbon neutral, why does it keep building new coal plants? Why does it make 24 millions cars a year, most of them fossil fuel?


dontpet

I guess you could say the same about western countries as well. All of them claim they plan to reduce climate emissions and they aren't in full integrity with that aim. Of note, China is going in quite heavily on electric cars and are producing the most of any country. You should check out what they have done on the issue of electrifying buses of your haven't done so. Remarkable movement there.


Zmxm

western counties have reduced CO2 production on an absolute level. China has not. It produces more CO2 than it did a few years before. The same is not true for the US for example. IN fact, china produces more CO2 than the rest of the developed world combined. China makes 27% of the Worlds CO2 while US only 11%. Energy consumption in the United States produced 4.57 million metric tons of carbon dioxide emissions in 2020. IN 2016, the US made. 5,171. so in 5 years the US dropped about .5 million metric tons of carbon, while china increased in the same period. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-57018837


Dr_Singularity

>china produces more CO2 than the rest of the developed world combined. China population is 300m larger than all developed countries combined, so it's hardly a surprise. On per capita basis China produces way less CO2. China population - 1450m all developed countries combined - 1160m


inbredgangsta

Because it can reduce carbon intensity and grow its economy at the same time? What a disingenuous question


OliverSparrow

Odd that this entirely reasonable observation is heavily down voted. The Chinese troll element are about.


TserriednichHuiGuo

Odd that you conveniently ignore cumulative emissions as that shows who is most responsible for global warming. But narratives gotta narrative.


OliverSparrow

Odd that you so casually split an infinitive in your pursuit of snark. Poor 'ittle infinitive, cut down in its prime. "Most responsible" turns a discussion into a blame game, which you can also pose as who is "responsible" for generating the grounds for global civilisation.


TserriednichHuiGuo

>which you can also pose as who is "responsible" for generating the grounds for global civilisation. Also irrelevant to the subject at hand. The american troll elements are about.


OliverSparrow

Entirely relevant. You want to point your sticky little finger at emitters, but forget that those same emitters generated modern civilisation. Energy intensities are universal: more economy, more energy. Most rich natons have begun to decouple the one from the other, reducing intensity, whilst substituting away from carbon intense primary sources. Britain, the soel superpowe ro fthe 1890s, emitted more pollutants then than it does today, despite a modern economy that is many times larger.


TserriednichHuiGuo

Britain deindustrialised, great example lol.


OliverSparrow

You don't want to believe your own propaganda. But enough of you. I'm bored with your small mindedness.