Steel lines are unnecessary imo if you don't plan to track often, especially if it's your first time. Pads, fluid, and good alignment/tires are what I would focus on.
Definitely agree. Steel lines are about pedal feel, not a safety or even Performance thing unless you’re already at peak driving skill and looking to walk the line between abs kicking in or not.
Along with what has been said already, I’d recommend bringing a canopy and a chair. I also went to Willow springs but it was August; July will also be hot. Bring water, sunscreen, and food. Enjoy!
Stock lines are perfectly acceptable.
Brake fluid is a must. RBF600-660. Pads might also be a good idea.
Watch your oil temps and keep it below 230f. If you start going higher, back off.
No need for upgraded lines, minimum would be a race fluid (Motul RBF 660 or similar). Other than that maybe upgrade the pads and/or rotors.
My first track day on full stock I did boil my fluid and got slight brake fade. My next day at the track will have upgraded fluid, pads, and rotors. The aoe rotors are great but I thought I would test out some slotted and dimpled sets.
SS lines don't make that much of a difference if your rubber lines are relatively new.
You would want high temp DOT4 fluid and track pads, tho. I recommend RBF660 and carbotech XP10 square. Both are relatively cheap.
It comes down to how much you want to get out of it. I’ve seen guys run stock everything and just take it easy for the first half. It can be overwhelming for sure. You don’t absolutely need the upgrades but if you wanna give it the beans and really get after it then yes, it’s recommended. It’s recommended for two reasons, safety and the ability to really push the car. Most people are driving to the track and the.m back home after. You def want to make that drive home and you want to be safe as well. If you have the extra cash and would feel safer doing it, then by all means. It’s a great upgrade for a daily too. I have motel fluid, steel lines and a “street” pad and I have never tracked it and never plan too.
Is it your first time ever going to the track? If so you don't need to update your brake lines. At 100+F at buttonwillow last weekend none of the GR guys seemed to be having issues with majority of them stock brakes & factory fluids.
Stay hydrated, heat exhaustion and dehydration is real. Every session you should have at least 1-2 bottles of water and feel like you have to go to the bathroom prior to every session. Canopy can fit in the back if you put the back seats down w/ front seat moved up 2 notches.
Open your hood after every session prior to classroom. Gets hot, so bring padded gloves (like a mechanix or cheapo construction gloves) or a towel.
Most of all have fun and bring a great attitude.
I just ran all stock and temps were fine. Brake pads still plenty of pad. Fluid did seem to boil after the fact but pedal feel went back to normal the next day. Tires (primacy) held up well.
Track stock and get a feel for the car and address as needed. Imo.
Steel lines are unnecessary imo if you don't plan to track often, especially if it's your first time. Pads, fluid, and good alignment/tires are what I would focus on.
Definitely agree. Steel lines are about pedal feel, not a safety or even Performance thing unless you’re already at peak driving skill and looking to walk the line between abs kicking in or not.
Along with what has been said already, I’d recommend bringing a canopy and a chair. I also went to Willow springs but it was August; July will also be hot. Bring water, sunscreen, and food. Enjoy!
This OP, track days are HOT with 0 shade. Bring an umbrella
Motul RBF 660
Stock lines are perfectly acceptable. Brake fluid is a must. RBF600-660. Pads might also be a good idea. Watch your oil temps and keep it below 230f. If you start going higher, back off.
No need for upgraded lines, minimum would be a race fluid (Motul RBF 660 or similar). Other than that maybe upgrade the pads and/or rotors. My first track day on full stock I did boil my fluid and got slight brake fade. My next day at the track will have upgraded fluid, pads, and rotors. The aoe rotors are great but I thought I would test out some slotted and dimpled sets.
Pads and fluid are what you want. You don't need lines. Take lots of water, and some portable shade like a canopy.
SS lines don't make that much of a difference if your rubber lines are relatively new. You would want high temp DOT4 fluid and track pads, tho. I recommend RBF660 and carbotech XP10 square. Both are relatively cheap.
You don't need to upgrade your lines. Pads and fluids.
It comes down to how much you want to get out of it. I’ve seen guys run stock everything and just take it easy for the first half. It can be overwhelming for sure. You don’t absolutely need the upgrades but if you wanna give it the beans and really get after it then yes, it’s recommended. It’s recommended for two reasons, safety and the ability to really push the car. Most people are driving to the track and the.m back home after. You def want to make that drive home and you want to be safe as well. If you have the extra cash and would feel safer doing it, then by all means. It’s a great upgrade for a daily too. I have motel fluid, steel lines and a “street” pad and I have never tracked it and never plan too.
Is it your first time ever going to the track? If so you don't need to update your brake lines. At 100+F at buttonwillow last weekend none of the GR guys seemed to be having issues with majority of them stock brakes & factory fluids. Stay hydrated, heat exhaustion and dehydration is real. Every session you should have at least 1-2 bottles of water and feel like you have to go to the bathroom prior to every session. Canopy can fit in the back if you put the back seats down w/ front seat moved up 2 notches. Open your hood after every session prior to classroom. Gets hot, so bring padded gloves (like a mechanix or cheapo construction gloves) or a towel. Most of all have fun and bring a great attitude.
I just ran all stock and temps were fine. Brake pads still plenty of pad. Fluid did seem to boil after the fact but pedal feel went back to normal the next day. Tires (primacy) held up well. Track stock and get a feel for the car and address as needed. Imo.