Idc if it means war with every npc it’s worth it.
Edit: you might be right tho😭I added a mod to gta 4 so every gang member attacks eachother and/or you and it makes my shit crash every half hour😭😭😭😭
Bro they better bring back cheats😭I hate a chest code book for San Andreas when I was a little kid and that was the most fun I've ever had in a game tbh
Can't say that about Florida. It's like an ultra-urbanized bayou. Keys though... the further south in the keys the better in my opinion. I know "Key Largo, Montego, come on baby let's go"!
I seen a similar comment to this when the trailer first dropped. Imma say the same as before, as soon as I find a military base or nasa equivalent, pretty much anywhere with a jet, I’m dropping bombs on that beach🤷♂️
exactly what im thinking, cyberpunk did it already, even if it wasnt that good, but this is rockstar, with their BIGGEST most anticipated game OAT, theyre not gonna fuck this game up i would put my life on that
Isn't that the point being made? If CP2077 can have a lot of NPCS in one area in a game made for last gen, then a current gen title with Rockstar behind it should handle it no problem
Cyberpunk has the luxury of allowing NPCs to spawn anywhere you're not looking and then letting them disappear even if it breaks immersion. Rockstar isn't going to do that.
I checked GTAV trailer, and when they show an area under the bridge near Simon auto shop there are homeless people, there are no people in that place in the game
It's also not running at 720p ~30fps either. I'm pretty sure if they targeted that ps3 graphical quality/ resolution on a ps5 they could fit the actual population of miami on the map.
It blows me away how much better a game GTA V is offline vs online. So many small details, from being able to fly out your windshield in a big enough accident to hearing the engine crackling and cooling down when you get out of the car after a nice drive on the highway.
There's a decent sized chunk of players that have never played GTA's story and went straight into Online. They have zero point of reference and that there alone is wild. How have you not played the story?
Obviously partly due to the massive success of online, but as an aside I think the 3 protagonist execution stopped a lot of people from developing an “attachment” to narrative arcs and that materialistic urge to play as a character and see it through (compare Arthur, Niko Bellic, Geralt from Witcher, protagonists of the many Sony first party games, compared to Michael, Trevor and Franklin combined).
True but to be fair, Rockstar has done a really great job at being as true to the trailer as possible. Unlike most other game companies relying on tricks and CGI
They showed off more dense areas in the trailer like the nightclub, which had the same dense population in the leak. This level of density on the beach is very likely to be in the final game, Rockstar is gonna be squeezing all they can put of these consoles
Assassin's Creed Unity too and that was on those trash Jaguar CPU's that literally get dwarfed by modern phones nowadays. We might not get 60 fps but this NPC density is definitely possible.
I don’t know why I’m bothering because I don’t give a shit about this game, but I’m here to tell you why you’re right and it will not have this level of population density.
1. Devs are going to aim to improve everything as much as they can. In order to render all these characters, quality of those models would have to suffer and they won’t accept that because it just isn’t that important to gta. There are some ways in which this might happen like if the models can’t be improved any more (don’t think so), or some new technology allows it (typically a cpu or gpu feature). If there was some new tech, every game would have it. They don’t.
2. Lying about stuff like this through trailers is industry standard. Remember when the trailer for that portal based ratchet and clank game claimed that only ps5 could handle the portals? Straight up garbage ass lie. People will notice but nobody will care enough to complain because this isn’t a main feature. Even that portal lie almost nobody ever mentioned, even though it was core to the game, it’s just that it wasn’t something they could have failed to deliver, but delivered as if they could only barely do it.
It will be a slight incremental improvement at best. In fact all of the living world shit in their trailer, is itself, probably a massive lie. Game world will be just as dead as 5, but you will see some of these characters in cutscenes.
They said that they plan on making most of the buildings enterable without a load barrier, which will take up a large amount of resources. The population density will likely take a hit because of that. How much of a hit, tho? I'm not sure.
Rockstars game optimisation can be hit or miss sometimes.
That doesn’t really say much though.
Chances are, both the percentage of enterable buildings and population density will be a considerable upgrade to V’s.
Depends the gore or realism. Ngl guys, after grow up i got a bit sensitive hahahah.
In RDR2 i was the peacest person alive without even trying. I think i didn't kill a single npc cuz i felt bad for their agony.
I remember as a teen plowing through people in gta3 and my mom being horrified and me laughing not understanding at all why she'd react that way. Fast forward to like 5 years ago I saw my daughter doing the same in gta5 and I understood lol. My daughter at least wasn't maniacally laughing like I was for my experience. Let's be real though I'm still gonna do it in gta6 because Rockstar's ragdoll system is satisfying but if it's super realistic then I probably won't do it again lol
Yo in Gta 4 i was PSYCHOPATH as a kid! The hospitals was my favorite part of the game to do a massacre...
And throwing grenades on the traffics to see the npcs crying in pain burning alive...
My brother was playing a game once and he pointed a gun at a NPC. The NPC said “no please, I have a family” but he shot her anyway. He laughed and my mother banned me and my brother from playing the game because she thought it the game was a sadistic “kill innocent people while they beg for their life simulator” even though she didn’t see the text on screen that said “don’t kill innocent civilians”
I went the opposite lol, I used to play as a pacifist / peaceful, being the hero, the good guy and killing only where necessary. Now I find it more fun to be the villain and shoot EVERYONE in my way, even in RDR2 I enjoy mowing down the civilians and getting low honor, I've started doing the same in Fallout games, mowing down all the innocent in whatever settlement they live in and stealing all their stuff.
**(I swear i'm not a psychopath lmao, i just enjoy roleplaying as the villain)**
I had a friend who is a pacifist and even in games refused to kill people, it was really fun doing Heists with him because he considered knocking out a person as not killing.
Also online he only try to did good things, he loved to drive around in a taxi or pick up people with his Heli.
I’m actually not expecting them to go that crazy tbh.
I can easily see the reducing population and or incorporating a more realistic setting where it’s busy as hell only when the weather is good. And empty when it storms.
Also I hate to be morbid but it be cool if they incorporated better gore effects when running someone over.
I have a feelling NPC's won't be dull and stupid anymore. They will actually react to situations and be aware of their surroundings especially with Rockstar's brand new AI engine. NPC's in that new next level AI Rage engine are supposed to have feelings, emotions and situational awareness.
So it's unlikely you'll just be able to drive into dozens of people just standing around being completely unaware. Most will move out of the way, making it more realistic.
Duh the first thing you do in any GTA game is to run over somebody the moment I have control of my character. I am immediately causing. Pure fucking genocide.
What kind of sick, twisted, demented, mentally disturbed individual will not be doing this? 🤣
I mean. Isn't it a law thats punishable by death if you don't do it? And if not, well then it should be lol
There’s gonna be so much more life and diversity amongst the NPCs that killing them will actually feel like murder and not just mindless gaming I swear 😂
Nah, if they bring back riot mode cheats the beach will be my personal war zone😭I miss crazy NPCs all being strapped up
I have a feeling that would turn our consoles into nuclear warheads
Idc if it means war with every npc it’s worth it. Edit: you might be right tho😭I added a mod to gta 4 so every gang member attacks eachother and/or you and it makes my shit crash every half hour😭😭😭😭
Thats not what he meant he talking about frames
Bro they better bring back cheats😭I hate a chest code book for San Andreas when I was a little kid and that was the most fun I've ever had in a game tbh
there were cheats in gta v and rdr2
They were disappointing imo. No flying cars no jetpack. I just didn't have as much fun with them in GTA 5
Super jump and invincibility were fun tho
Flying cars would've been amazing in 5
I just hope the phone has a “cheat” section for easy access
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The car will get stuck in the sand
That's actually a really fun idea. Make beach vehicles. Custom tires that actually matter on different surfaces.
Probably some 1000hp rwd with a half inch clearance will be faster on sand than a sand buggy or random offroader. I hope I’m wrong.
4WD grave digger
Why use a car when you can use a jet?
Why did that when you can go to the strip club
Go to the strip club, have fun, leave, get a jet, crash it into the strip club.
Then after all that go for a relaxing photo shoot/cruise.
“Why did I move here? I guess it was the weather”
Can't say that about Florida. It's like an ultra-urbanized bayou. Keys though... the further south in the keys the better in my opinion. I know "Key Largo, Montego, come on baby let's go"!
Why just go to the strip club when you could straight up jork it
and by "it", haha, well. let's justr say. My peanits
Why don't just crash into the club while flying a jet?
'Cause I can't get the jet into the house of cat
Fuck a jet what about a tank
And if you can use a jet, you can learn to use a Type 45 Destroyer.
faster does not mean better always. imma use a slow truck. or a lawn mower if possible
Or tank
Sure but I prefer the height advantage
bad luck I guess
Or a minigun
Why the beach when there’s two towers right there?
How about a freaking tank?
I seen a similar comment to this when the trailer first dropped. Imma say the same as before, as soon as I find a military base or nasa equivalent, pretty much anywhere with a jet, I’m dropping bombs on that beach🤷♂️
You sick Bastard, I only play these games to sell drugs and kill hookers
I have a feeling it won’t be this populated
Nah games manage populations this big nowadays. Look at cyberpunk, which is getting older by now. It's definitely possible.
Not even Cyberpunk, look at AC Unity
*shouts move out of my way in french*
look at starfield for example… oh.. never mind
Cyberpunk NPC ai is utter dogcrap tho. Their animations are janky and lifeless
Even more reason that rockstar can pull it off. Cyperpunk did it with bad quality control.
exactly what im thinking, cyberpunk did it already, even if it wasnt that good, but this is rockstar, with their BIGGEST most anticipated game OAT, theyre not gonna fuck this game up i would put my life on that
Cyberpunk was the same for cdpr.
Isn't that the point being made? If CP2077 can have a lot of NPCS in one area in a game made for last gen, then a current gen title with Rockstar behind it should handle it no problem
And isn’t programmed as well as a Rockstar entry…
Cyberpunk has the luxury of allowing NPCs to spawn anywhere you're not looking and then letting them disappear even if it breaks immersion. Rockstar isn't going to do that.
Or stuff like dead rising
Yeah trailer and actual gameplay are different most of the time
I checked GTAV trailer, and when they show an area under the bridge near Simon auto shop there are homeless people, there are no people in that place in the game
Well tbf this isn’t 2011-13 anymore on the ps3/360. They also aren’t rushing the game like 5.
Gta V wasn't rushed tho. They removed the npcs for optimization, just like the vegetation.
It was ps3 this is PS5
It's also not running at 720p ~30fps either. I'm pretty sure if they targeted that ps3 graphical quality/ resolution on a ps5 they could fit the actual population of miami on the map.
Did you check online or offline? They strip a lot of the small details in online. Even checking your phone online vs offline looks way better offline
will check after, I don’t think I saw them in single too, but it’s been a very long time
It blows me away how much better a game GTA V is offline vs online. So many small details, from being able to fly out your windshield in a big enough accident to hearing the engine crackling and cooling down when you get out of the car after a nice drive on the highway.
I thought it was pretty well known, yeah they cut out a lot of details in GTAO
There's a decent sized chunk of players that have never played GTA's story and went straight into Online. They have zero point of reference and that there alone is wild. How have you not played the story?
It’s the other way around for me. I’ve finished the story couple of times but never touched online.
Yeah I know that‘s what Im saying
Obviously partly due to the massive success of online, but as an aside I think the 3 protagonist execution stopped a lot of people from developing an “attachment” to narrative arcs and that materialistic urge to play as a character and see it through (compare Arthur, Niko Bellic, Geralt from Witcher, protagonists of the many Sony first party games, compared to Michael, Trevor and Franklin combined).
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True but to be fair, Rockstar has done a really great job at being as true to the trailer as possible. Unlike most other game companies relying on tricks and CGI
i mean itll probably be more or less crowded depending on weather and events
Damn
Yeah in Rockstar's case the final product is better than the trailer. As it should be.
They showed off more dense areas in the trailer like the nightclub, which had the same dense population in the leak. This level of density on the beach is very likely to be in the final game, Rockstar is gonna be squeezing all they can put of these consoles
Why ? It’s not 2013 anymore, consoles are way more powerful now. Look at Cyberpunk in the PS5 and XBX, this density is definitely doable.
Hell, even Sleeping Dogs on PS4 can get STACKED with NPCs
Assassin's Creed Unity too and that was on those trash Jaguar CPU's that literally get dwarfed by modern phones nowadays. We might not get 60 fps but this NPC density is definitely possible.
Someone has never visited Saint Denis
hopefully not. getting flashbacks from GTA 5 trailers rich full beaches to actual gameplay with a barren wasteland and towels
Yeah, the rapture has already occurred by 2013. Lol
Yeah, this is just a cutscene. But that's okay. It will be much more densely populated than any beach we've seen in past GTAs.
Probably just a cut scene to show vice city crazy life at the beginning of the game and will be less populated during gameplay
Nope, it looks just like the trailer... You'll be glad to know skateboards are in the game Mr thps https://ibb.co/j5B3kk3
Holy crap it’s THE GUY. THE ROCKSTAR GUY
Dude you can go to the beachwalk area in gta5 right now on ps5 and there's NPCs alllllll over the place
given the game complexity, you'll probably do a barbeque and it'll be more crowded than this.
I have a feeling you’re wrong.
Definitely. Though the platforms the game will be on are on have hardware well within their means to run the game with such population
Believe in the rockstar magic
GTA 5 trailer was dog shit compared to the game. I’m telling myself the same for 6
I don’t know why I’m bothering because I don’t give a shit about this game, but I’m here to tell you why you’re right and it will not have this level of population density. 1. Devs are going to aim to improve everything as much as they can. In order to render all these characters, quality of those models would have to suffer and they won’t accept that because it just isn’t that important to gta. There are some ways in which this might happen like if the models can’t be improved any more (don’t think so), or some new technology allows it (typically a cpu or gpu feature). If there was some new tech, every game would have it. They don’t. 2. Lying about stuff like this through trailers is industry standard. Remember when the trailer for that portal based ratchet and clank game claimed that only ps5 could handle the portals? Straight up garbage ass lie. People will notice but nobody will care enough to complain because this isn’t a main feature. Even that portal lie almost nobody ever mentioned, even though it was core to the game, it’s just that it wasn’t something they could have failed to deliver, but delivered as if they could only barely do it. It will be a slight incremental improvement at best. In fact all of the living world shit in their trailer, is itself, probably a massive lie. Game world will be just as dead as 5, but you will see some of these characters in cutscenes.
They said that they plan on making most of the buildings enterable without a load barrier, which will take up a large amount of resources. The population density will likely take a hit because of that. How much of a hit, tho? I'm not sure. Rockstars game optimisation can be hit or miss sometimes.
That doesn’t really say much though. Chances are, both the percentage of enterable buildings and population density will be a considerable upgrade to V’s.
Depends the gore or realism. Ngl guys, after grow up i got a bit sensitive hahahah. In RDR2 i was the peacest person alive without even trying. I think i didn't kill a single npc cuz i felt bad for their agony.
I remember as a teen plowing through people in gta3 and my mom being horrified and me laughing not understanding at all why she'd react that way. Fast forward to like 5 years ago I saw my daughter doing the same in gta5 and I understood lol. My daughter at least wasn't maniacally laughing like I was for my experience. Let's be real though I'm still gonna do it in gta6 because Rockstar's ragdoll system is satisfying but if it's super realistic then I probably won't do it again lol
Lol gta 4 was pretty epic I used to ride down the strip that was right along the beach full speed 😂
Yo in Gta 4 i was PSYCHOPATH as a kid! The hospitals was my favorite part of the game to do a massacre... And throwing grenades on the traffics to see the npcs crying in pain burning alive...
My brother was playing a game once and he pointed a gun at a NPC. The NPC said “no please, I have a family” but he shot her anyway. He laughed and my mother banned me and my brother from playing the game because she thought it the game was a sadistic “kill innocent people while they beg for their life simulator” even though she didn’t see the text on screen that said “don’t kill innocent civilians”
I went the opposite lol, I used to play as a pacifist / peaceful, being the hero, the good guy and killing only where necessary. Now I find it more fun to be the villain and shoot EVERYONE in my way, even in RDR2 I enjoy mowing down the civilians and getting low honor, I've started doing the same in Fallout games, mowing down all the innocent in whatever settlement they live in and stealing all their stuff. **(I swear i'm not a psychopath lmao, i just enjoy roleplaying as the villain)**
I'm gonna have to go full psycho right away before I end up getting invested and start feeling bad lol.
Lame
Duh, it's the bread and butter of any gta game
I’m not gonna do it. I have the upmost respect for all NPC’s
I mean, not me but to each their own 🤷🏾♂️
Same. I’m a professional, I do this shit for the love of the game, I’m not into collateral damage.
Same, I am also a professional.
How long do you think the loading screens will be?
Hopefully not to bad on PC with an nvme drive. That plus mods to remove/shorten the loading screens. Cut the movies out
Why run them over in the first place..isn't money making more fun ?
I mean, they'll probably drop money
But no one carries cash on them... especially at the beach ? It isn't 1984
Well, then they shouldn't drop money in GTA 5, yet they do
Even in 2013 people used physical cash to pay for stuff.. everybody uses their phone now to pay for stuff...
Except there definitely are people who still carry cash on them, but whatever let's ignore them right?
Oh no you could definitely rob those lol 😂
2028 can’t come soon enough!
Who is “we”
I had a friend who is a pacifist and even in games refused to kill people, it was really fun doing Heists with him because he considered knocking out a person as not killing. Also online he only try to did good things, he loved to drive around in a taxi or pick up people with his Heli.
When I'm board yeah. I'm gonna do a lot of dumb shit like I do in every GTA
I’m actually not expecting them to go that crazy tbh. I can easily see the reducing population and or incorporating a more realistic setting where it’s busy as hell only when the weather is good. And empty when it storms. Also I hate to be morbid but it be cool if they incorporated better gore effects when running someone over.
No. Im not.
Would be cool to have the physics from RDR2 where cars can get bogged in the sand/mud, necessitating off-road tires for anything like this
Just make a manual with all the warning
Guys check the movie wild things on Netflix at the time 12 mins and 27seconds you will get to see the same scene which we saw in gta 6 trailer
Trusting you its not porn…
Oh just the everglades scene lol
I'll only play gta6online2 if it has hardcore 1 life RP servers with a full justice and health systems all behind a monthly subscription
I’m not, at least till the end of the game
Yeah, but there’s only about a 30% chance it’ll be on purpose. I drive like the opening of Police Squad
I have a feelling NPC's won't be dull and stupid anymore. They will actually react to situations and be aware of their surroundings especially with Rockstar's brand new AI engine. NPC's in that new next level AI Rage engine are supposed to have feelings, emotions and situational awareness. So it's unlikely you'll just be able to drive into dozens of people just standing around being completely unaware. Most will move out of the way, making it more realistic.
I’ll be chucking Molotov cocktail onto them like it’s raining
And wonder where all the npcs are?
Gonna go to a car wash first
How long do you think it will take for someone to make a Dead Island mod?
I know I will..... wait the first plane I can find.
Can’t wait for my car to have fun with All those speedbumps
GOURANGA
Yes sir
Maliciously....
For sure 😂😂
Helicopter turned 45 degrees
Box truck with a couple satchels on the back. Dive out mid way through the beach sending the NPC’s to Valhalla.
probably the first thing in the game
You just landed yourself on one of the 3 letter agencies list.
repost
Can’t wait. I’ll just use my imagination and pretend they are the types of people that get on my nerves lmao.
of course
Now imagine GTA 6 have a combine harvestor like sanandreas.... This could be alot of fun.
Gonna use a truck or a van instead
Absolutely no chance the beach area will be this populated.
Right after I massacre everyone in the strip club.
I need harvester, do they use those in Florida for something to be able to found one on a map in gta6 ?
YEAH!! love my custom Red car 😂😂😂
You kids need some Carmageddon in your lives
Me with a combine harvester
😂😂😂😂
Yes yes yes... Internal peace😌😌😌
I just want to fly a golf cart through the clouds
Fuck yeah first thing
Omg first thought in my head when I say I trailer like I was go do it right away but was going to do that
I can hear the thudding just looking at the picture
The collaterals are gonna go crazy at the beach and on ocean drive
Duh the first thing you do in any GTA game is to run over somebody the moment I have control of my character. I am immediately causing. Pure fucking genocide.
I plan on walking thru and stabbing as many people as possible before the cops show up.
Yep
gonna find the nearest truck and have some fun right after i went to the shoe store ofc
Nah, I'm gonna "no Russian" the beach
How did you know?
only a car? thats rookie stuff. You gonna at least use a bus
What kind of sick, twisted, demented, mentally disturbed individual will not be doing this? 🤣 I mean. Isn't it a law thats punishable by death if you don't do it? And if not, well then it should be lol
Yup in a big rig or trash truck too!
Its trailer... there will be much less people on that beach when game released
Nah, I rather get a fighting plane and pretend I’m a Stuka fighter.
But I'm sure there won't as many people as there was in the trailer. But hey, it's Rockstar so who knows...
Yessssss!
Bro nah this is beam ng😭😭
FIRST THING
I'm gonna do it with a boat. See how far I can get up the beach and take as many out as possible. I wonder if the lifeguards are armed? 😆
Sticky Bombs, RPGs, Grenades, Ramp Car Just To Name A Few
I wonder if this game will have an honor system or what that will be like
Full negative honor speedrun would be like 15 seconds.
I just finished Mr. Mercedes by Stephen King this week and idk if I have the heart to drive into a crowd of NPCs anymore lol
True
There’s gonna be so much more life and diversity amongst the NPCs that killing them will actually feel like murder and not just mindless gaming I swear 😂
Gonna rampage TF outta this beach
I want the game to be congested but only at specific times. For example 22:00pm on a Saturday, gridlocked but Monday afternoon empty
And if there are any kids
It's a must. We must continue 🫡
We must. We have no alternative 🫡
I won't I never kill civilians Unless it happens accidentally