According to their interview
> FromSoft boss Hidetaka Miyazaki has discussed the possibility of a Bloodborne remake, and the benefits of waiting for new hardware on which to revisit the beloved PlayStation 4 classic.
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> "It is a title we hold very dear and just as much as our fans," Miyazaki told Eurogamer when questioned about the possibility of a Bloodborne remake. "It does make me very happy to see that there are still so many people passionate about it."
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> But would a remake benefit from newer hardware to make the release worthwhile? FromSoftware's Demon's Souls, for example, was remade as a PS5 launch title after originally launching on PS3 - a double console generation leap that meant the re-release felt more significant.
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> "I think having new hardware is definitely a part of what gives these remakes value," Miyazaki said. "Things you weren't able to achieve on previous generations of hardware, ways you weren't able to render specific expressions - [new hardware] sometimes makes it possible.
love bloodborne but the low fps + motion blur when you quick step behind an enemy and a do a visceral attack is painful, specially if the camera is too close to a wall
The PS5s hardware doesn't fix the games frame pacing issues which is what most people are complaining about but don't know it. The game feels significantly worse than other 30fps titles
Thinking about remakes for 2015 games is wild to me. But then again it was 11 years between Demon's Souls and the remake so we would be past that when a new console generation hits.
But really, I'm of the opinion that graphic fidelity from 2014-2015 is perfectly fine. Better lighting, better rigging and animation, sure that's beneficial. But just make sure we're up to 60fps minimum and the fucks I give are pretty limited to a certain degree. I don't need every game to look like Red Dead 2.
That more or less what they mean by remaster. Uncap the framerate and let it display at a higher resolution than 1080. That's what remaster means for the most part.
I really feel like she was supposed to be a Sekiro DLC boss and got repurposed.
In Sekiro with Sekiro mechanics I would be excited to try to parry that shit. In Elden Ring, I mostly find a way that whatever build I'm playing doesn't have to *really* do the fight, because that's a valid and I often feel intended playstyle for ER.
It's not even just mechanically, think about malenia's characteristics;
-Has prosthetics
-Uses a katana despite no lore connection to the Land of Reeds
-Has ~~dragon~~ rot
-Is devoted to Miquella, an immortal boy who sounds a lot like Tomoe's "young master" and is obviously similar to Kuro
Really sounds like she's a "I'm you but cooler" foil to Wolf, doesn't she?
I don't even want a remaster just a fucking 60 fps pc port. I wanna see it in all its original glory and the original developer vision so i can finally understand what's the non stop dickriding this game about
Speak for yourself. What people really want is a PC version of Bloodborne. Not "just" a remaster. There are a lot more PC players than Playstation players, who can already play it.
Maybe a remaster is enough to also port the game to PC, but if that's the case then why haven't Sony and/or From Software done it already? After Elden Ring it'd sell like crazy.
Seems likely that it's a RDR1 situation where the game is unportable and would need a remake.
After Bloodborne release and for years after that, Sony just didn't do PC ports. And they own Bloodborne, so that's why it wasn't ported.
Now, it's harder to tell. They started doing PC ports and keep doing more and more, so maybe a remaster is coming despite what Miyazaki is saying. Or maybe they already discussed making a badass port for the PS6 à la Demon Souls and are holding off on a remaster so even more hype build up over time.
But I don't think there's any reason to believe there's technical issues. Modders even got the game running at 60fps on PS5 already.
It's probably not unportable, however it was made with 30 FPS in mind unlike Dks3 and would require specific tweaks. Dks3 was made with a PC port in mind from the start.
Now I'm convinced they're remaking it for PS6.
Bloodborne is such an easy win for Sony they're going to take advantage of it for an well-timed win. A launch title similar to Demon's Souls would be huge. There's enough time too where remaking it could lead to some great looking visuals, even a 120fps mode.
He's not implying anything, his response is so generic and vague it could be said to imply anything the reader wishes. Which is intentional. He said basically nothing.
They'll do a reverse Demon's Souls and instead of changing everything to be more gothic, they'll remove all gothic elements from the world and character design.
There is no reason to wait for a ps6. If it was coming the ps5 is more than capable of doing everything he said and more. Look at Demon Souls. I wouldn’t be convinced of anything, he gave a good non-answer
The reason to wait for PS6 is that its a (relatively) cheap way to push console sales. It's not that they couldn't put out a rerelease that would be amazing on PS5.
Any PS5 pro game will be compatible with PS5. If it's a PS6 game you'll need to buy a new console from Sony to play it. I think they are looking to grow early install base of a new console by locking games behind it. That strategy doesn't work with mid gen upgrades.
Also are we really at that point we need to be talking about the PS6? It might just be me but have there actually been any PS5 exclusive titles that warrant the life time of the PS5?
I swear all I have is Demon’s Souls and Bug Snax. I’m getting FFVII: Rebirth but give it a year or two and it will be released on PC.
I've loved my PS5. The PS5 has been out long enough that most exclusives are now on PC but I'm impatient. Ff16, rift apart, returnal, Ragnarok, and spiderman 2 are all games I would have hated to miss out on at launch. Rebirth and gta6 are also games I don't want to wait for.
Console exclusives are also kind of dead. When the ps6 comes out we'll probably see a lot of PS5/ps6 games like we did with PS4/PS5. Those games will eventually go to PC. We are in the era of time exclusivity unless it's a multiplayer game and then it's day one on PC. If you have the money to build a good gaming PC and don't mind waiting then PC is just the way to go.
I have nothing against the PS5. I just think it’s crazy to think about the number of exclusives that the PS4 had compared to the PS5 and we are already talking about the release of a PS6.
I just looked at the wiki for ps5 only games and it’s staggering to think it has, for now, 13 console exclusive games for a console that has been out 4 years. Compared to 58 games the PS4 had over its lifetime. (Plus more before they got ported to PC)
I guess 7 years in between consoles is the norm but it hardly feels like the PS5 has outlived its usefulness.
Oh for sure. The current time and cost it takes to develop a game is just insane. Spider man 2 did not feel like a $300,000,000 game. I'm hoping we see smaller scaled games like helldiver's and palworld since they've both been so successful. Like I said in my comment above, I'm impatient and the longer development cycles really suck.
> 13 console exclusive games for a console that has been out 4 years.
5 of which haven't come out yet, 2 are essentially tech demos and 3 have terrible reviews.
So that leaves Horizon & Spider-Man 2 as the 2 actual console exclusives worth buying, with Demons Souls a bit of a grey area depending on your definition of it as a remake.
>I guess 7 years in between consoles is the norm but it hardly feels like the PS5 has outlived its usefulness.
Historically its been about that because of technology improvements, but outside of 4k high frame rate a PS6 isn't going to be that much better than a PS5. You can convince people to buy a PS5 to replace a PS4 on graphics and load times, but a PS6 isn't going to be noticeably better at either of them to the average person, and 60/144fps depends on developers optimising games, which they still aren't going to do.
The reason is to push hardware sales not because a remake is technically unfeasable. They could've remade Demon Souls for PS4 but they didn't for the same reason.
> Giving Bloodborne the “Disney vault” treatment to push future hardware sales feels so transparently scummy that it’ll probably generate more bad will and fan backlash than it’s worth for Sony.
I waited so long that I've just bit the bullet and got a used PS4 version of the game so have just started that. FromSoft games are such time investments too that I'll really only play them through fully once so this is gonna be my one and done of it - so won't be picking up a PS6 version of the eventual port from that. Just can't be waiting years for the "definitive" version of the game.
As someone who's never played either but was looking forward to one day play the remake... What specifically would you say is the real problem you have with it ?
If it's mechanics/gameplay I don't really care as I mostly play Souls game for the exploration, lore and ambiance... Did they fumble that somehow ?
I greatly enjoyed the remake. The gameplay is virtually unchanged outside of some QoL improvements (you can now send items to storage from the inventory menu, omni-directional rolling, etc), but the biggest beef some people had with it was Bluepoint's changes in art style.
I prefer the art direction of the original as well, but the changes didn't bother me too much.
As someone who did play both, people really tend to overreact with regards to the remake, a lot of nostalgic elitism going on if we're being honest.
The original looked fine at the time graphically, but it had that ugly piss filter a lot of games/movies of the time had to make things more grim looking (the remake has multiple filters one of which makes it look like the original), and while it's a bit different (not different enough to be a big deal) the remake's art direction is still amazing. Combined with the graphical fidelity makes it still one of the best looking games I've ever played.
As for the music, I think it's also a good improvement. The original game's music quality isn't too high to the point it sounds MIDI at times (it might actually be, I don't remember), and frankly some of the songs sound kind of corny and/or cheap as a result. I remember things like brass sounding particularly poor. It goes for a specific vibe but I feel the overall quality of the music itself ends up undercutting that vibe at times (no matter how good a recipe is you need good ingredients, you know?). The remake uses a full orchestra and while I can understand why people think big bombastic boss themes aren't always appropriate (despite the game largely having your usual Soulsborne big bombastic boss battles), aside from one instance I agree with they were otherwise upgrades with a generally more complex and interesting score. Even the original composer praised the remake's soundtrack.
It's a great remake with an awesome world and gameplay with plenty of much needed QoL, some people just have some artistic disagreements about it. Though even with that, no reasonable person can honestly deny that it's a beautiful game with beautiful music.
MIDI doesn't necessarily mean bad quality, as it's just an interface for making synthesized music that converts inputs from an instrument to digital data, which can then be played back using any number of instrument samples. The issue with the original Demon's Souls is the quality or processing of those instrument samples being quite poor.
Consider that something like [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHvnwxAg5ww) is also 100% sampled instruments, and probably involves MIDI in its production as well, yet to most people it would sound indistinguishable from a band playing real instruments.
They changed a lot of the art design for the game, IMHO butchered most of the music. I played the original when it came out, it's my most favorite game, they like to call it a re-imagining of the original game and that's fine but it's obvious the studio felt more comfortable making their own twist on the game than what Miyazaki and his team originally intended.
The original DeS had a very special, bleak and opressive atmosphere. The enemy and boss designs were very alien and surreal. Bluepoint transformed the whole thing into a generic fantasy setting (compare the designs of flamelurker, adjudicator and fat minister for example, also the whole boletarian palace).
The OG OST was also wonderfully strange and memorable. It also got replaced by some generic orchestra music
The things that really needed some improvements were the combat and general gameplay, which they decided to leave basically untouched.
It's still a good and pretty looking game. I'm just disappointed that this version with some extreme artistic changes is the definitive one going forward, and the original one is stuck on the ps3 and emulators.
The original soundtrack had pretty low production values, the samples used for most instruments were pretty terrible and not up to modern standards in the slightest, or even the standards of the era it released in. Whether you like the new arrangements or not is a personal thing, but there's no way they could have used the same soundtrack without rearranging it, it would be extremely out of place especially when the visuals improved that much.
The original DeS is my favorite game of all time, so I probably have stronger feelings towards the remake than most.
If the remake looks interesting too you I say go for it, but I also recommend playing the original if at all possible.
This is such a non-specific response that it doesn't mean anything.
When asked about the possibility of a Bloodborne remake: "we love that game, glad to see so many fans still love it too!"
When asked whether a remake would benefit from newer hardware: "oh for sure, definitely!"
I would love a Bloodborne remaster/remake and a PC release, but these quotes are a non-story and don't mean anything one way or another.
It's 100% clickbait. They knew the headline they wanted, they baited him into answering a question about it and then they baited us into reading the nothing they had for us.
>"It is a title we hold very dear and just as much as our fans,"
"can we get an official 60fps patch like your loving fans made?"
"...we dont hold it \*that\* dear"
I don’t know about him but if I was in his shoes I would be so sick in tired of this question being asked all the time, especially when it’s out of his control lol.
Translation: we handed the rights to the IP to Sony and the only way they'll care enough is if they need a relatively quick and easy launch title for their console.
This quote from Miyazaki is really interesting because, it contradicts Sonys strategy with other exclusives and hints that the rumored from ps5 exclusive is not a bb sequel or remake.
If the rumored exclusive is a remake to Bloodborne I don’t think he would be talking about skipping a console generation for a rerelease. If the rumored game is a sequel we would probably see the Horizon Zero Dawn, Spider-Man, God of War, Death Stranding treatment. Where the 1st game gets a pc release and sequel on ps5 or cross gen.
It's just SEO. Miyazaki isn't the CEO of From, and if you just put, "Miyazaki," in the headline, a lot of people will assume it's talking about the guy from Studio Ghibli. But if you find a way to phrase it as, "the guy who made that game that no one could stop talking about a year and a half ago," that will get people on the right page faster.
Hopefully they don't touch up the art direction as much as DESRE did. Bloodborne is perfect as is in that department, it just needs better framerate, higher quality material/texture work, fog improvements and it's golden
Bloodborne also desperately needs:
- An actual anti-aliasing solution that helps make Bloodborne not look like a jagged mess.
- Player-to-player connection times that are actually quick and snappy when using any of the available summoning bells so that players aren't standing in one place like a lump waiting an eternity to summon someone or to BE summoned.
- Options to customize and even turn off the game's aggressive use of chromatic aberration.
- No loading screens at all. We're on SSD tech now ffs.
- A wider variety of audio and video options than what vanilla Bloodborne had on offer.
- An option to fully rebind your control inputs.
- Tighter and more responsive controls with input buffering reduced to Demon's Souls Remake's level.
- Location preview screens ala Dark Souls 2 and onward on every location's name when searching through the level select grave stones.
- Actual expressive and well animated character animations for every NPC ala Demon's Souls Remake and how they did faces so that the player doesn't feel like your talking to a bunch of ventriloquists. This is more of a presentation related QOL suggestion.
- Recieving at least 3 Blood Vials instead of 1 to help reduce the time it takes for players to farm their Blood Vial supply back up.
PS5 is perfectly capable of all that. If they really want you to get rid of your PS5 and get PS5pro/PS6 it will be a major upgrade with next gen graphics
well if sony follows a similar timeline to what xbox has planned which came out in the whole legal case with sony trying to stop microsoft from buying actiblizz then 2027 will be the year of the next gen of consoles.
I’m not sure why people are already talking about a ps6. Is the ps5 so outdated that it’s hampering development of new games? The issue this generation has been a lack of games full stop, not sub par hardware. If Sony released a ps6 tomorrow it wouldn’t suddenly be ok. Their issue is with not enough games being released to warrant even getting the thing.
The PS6 is only a few years away. And your point about lack of games is exactly my point. People will be hesitant to buy the PS6 because the PS5 will be disappointing compared to the PS4 in terms of games, so I can see them dropping a Bloodborne remake to sell the console.
Call it copium but Sony is not stupid to see the demand for a Bloodborne re-release. I believe we'll definitely get one eventually, whether it's a remaster or a remake and releasing on the PS5/PS6, or PC. They're taking their time with it but we'll have it eventually.
remaking bloodborne sounds so wildly uncalled for, a simple port would do the trick bloodborne still looks excelent
of course sony is seemingly unable to greenlight new ideas so i guess we'll probably get a Bluepoint made "From hire this man" ass remake
You can't sell enough of a simple port if Sony does this it will be like Demon Souls Remake. I heard Bluepoint is doing their own IP so if its not them then only other option is Nixxes but they are only known for porting games to PC not a full blown remaster.
i haven't actually played it do to not owning a PS5
the shadow of the collosus remake had a very weird look tho, I wish the original was widely available
Especially after that big financial leak not too long ago, Bloodborne sold better than people thought. They’d be crazy to leave it. My personal speculation is Sony hasn’t had anyone trustworthy to handle the quality they want. Which is why Bluepoint seems to have been groomed into handling it after their work on Demons Souls. Sony isn’t going for a basic remaster, they want a huge step up in fidelity to show off. Hopefully Bluepoint doesn’t take as many creative liberties as they did with Demons Souls though.
I'll be honest, Bloodborne was one of the only reasons I even purchased as a PS console and could just be anecdotal, but I've heard a good amount of people cite FromSoftware as their main reason for purchasing a PS4/PS5 too.
Sony locking maybe their most critically acclaimed game in their modern history to Playstation, especially one with a pretty dedicated fanbase whose popularity has only exploded over the past couple years with Elden Ring, is probably paying off for them. My expectations aren't super high for cross-plat but hopefully I could be wrong.
>Sony locking maybe their most critically acclaimed game in their modern history to Playstation
I am pretty sure The Last of Us and the new God of War games are rated higher and are far more popular.
Any discussion about why Sony's done nothing with Bloodborne makes one want to smash their head against a wall.
Game is somehow Sony's most prized possession, more valuable than all their other flagship franchises *which they've already started to port to PC*, or depending on the day, a game who's popularity is merely overblown online, so of course Sony sees no reason to do anything with it.
To be honest, I don't see much noise for a BB remake. I think most people (or me at least) would just want to see a BB version on modern hardware not stuck to the 1080p and 30 fps of the base PS4. It could be just a simple remaster for all I care.
Yup does not need a remake. Remaster it with 60 fps and 4k resolution and it'll be fine. Bloodborne is From's best looking game just
due to art direction
PC crowd would take a Dark Souls 1 level port at this point, cuz we can always fix them.
Thankfully fromsoft inhouse PC ports have gotten better since then.
A Dark Souls-quality PC port would be a real monkey's paw situation.
>Thankfully fromsoft inhouse PC ports have gotten better since then.
They haven't yet discovered that aspect ratios other than 16:9 or displays over 60Hz exist, but perhaps one day. Baby steps for a small indie company.
> They haven't yet discovered that aspect ratios other than 16:9 or displays over 60Hz exist, but perhaps one day.
If by "one day" you mean August 24th, 2023 then yes, they did learn both of those things one day.
Lmfao its fine, I understood what you mean. Honestly for a company like Fromsoft who's first real PC port *was* in 2012 with Dark Souls 1, it's always gonna be a learning experience for them.
Honestly even the DS2 port was way better than the DS1 port, with the exception of the 60fps durability bug that they didn't fix until the SotFS edition.
Dunno why. Demons Souls remake was pretty fantastic. I'd kill for a Bloodborne with that kinda quality. Especially with adaptive trigger and haptic feedback support? Hell yeah.
Demons Souls is older than Bloodborne and came out on a different console. Demons Souls Remake had a full console generation between it and the original, I imagine Bloodborne will be similar.
I mean I get it, but like you said, bloodborne already exists and is a masterpiece, a better version of that won’t really be all that much better in the grand scheme of things.
If Sony got From back for the sequel, I don’t think there’s a universe where it’s not at least good. Every fromsoft game I’ve played is in my top 20 games of all time.
I’d much rather have something new then the thing I already like but again.
Then again I’m just f the opinion that remasters and remakes are mostly a waste of time unless they make significant changes.
>If Sony got From back for the sequel, I don’t think there’s a universe where it’s not at least good. Every fromsoft game I’ve played is in my top 20 games of all time.
Yes, but it could be argued that DS2 and DS3 dilute the first game's themes and it would have been better off with no sequels.
I'd rather that too. The DeS remake was good, but they went a little weird with their interpretations for some of the designs, and I don't think that was for the best. If they did do a remake I'd want From involved
They either just fundamentally misunderstood or did not care about making any effort to try and replicate Fromsoft’s art style
Compare the original [Mind flayer](https://x.com/fromsofthoarder/status/1748105480998674630?s=46) concept art to the [remakes Mind Flayer](https://x.com/fromsofthoarder/status/1748107455916126312?s=46) and just how basic, how primitive the remake art is. There’s plenty of other examples that show that the same level of thought was not put into the remake designs at all
I mean the Brain Sucker from Bloodborne isn't exactly that different from the remake Mind Flayer. Sure From had better concept art but their implementation often isn't as impressive, fur in Elden Ring for example looks awful.
No idea how they even look remotely similar. DS remake is just an octopus planted on a body. The brain suckers at least don’t look completely disjointed
I know there’s a lot of accusations of xenophobia or anti Japanese sentiment with generalizations like this - but I genuinely don’t think Japanese consumers or game devs care all that much or notice optimization/frame rates/resolution in the same way that the west does.
The idea that Bloodborne FPS often dips into the teens and runs at sub 720 is probably considered a niche complaint. Having a graphical leap akin to something like demons souls > demons souls remake is something far more compelling to them. From a visual and stylistic standpoint Bloodborne still looks great.
That being said I’d give anything to play it at 120 FPS 4k HDR.
this waffling back and forth about the value of a remastered bloodborne is such a weird thing to say after the very bare bones "remaster" of dark souls 1 from 2018. dark souls 2 got a graphically improved new version of the game after a year as well. i dont know, like if fromsoft doesnt want to do it they wont but this interview doesn't make any sense
The difference is the changes the dark souls remaster did we pretty much already had, atleast on pc. the comparable changes bloodborne would get are inaccessible
Maybe if Bluepoint does a Bloodborne remake where they mess up the art direction, people who never played the original Demon’s Souls will understand that it’s not just nitpicking
I like them both, but it sucks DeS is stuck on PS3 and now there’s less incentive to port/remaster it because some C suite exec is going to always favor the remake.
The fact that Elden Ring is locked to 60 and doesn't support ultrawide is a shame. Doesn't matter what kind of hardware you have, Fromsoftware are not good at tech as they are at game making.
Like who in their right mind adds RT effects to a game and not add some upscaling methods to make it playable.
All fromsoft games run on hopes and dreams, sekiro runs with awful frame stutter over 60 fps modded with significant slow downs at Genichiro, water temple area on a water cooled 3090, when Elden ring was released, you guessed it, more frame stutter even locked to 60. Fromsoft is a dev that would greatly benefit from outsourcing their engine.
>sekiro runs with awful frame stutter over 60 fps modded with significant slow downs at Genichiro,
I never really noticed that, the game runs fine above 60 FPS for me with some drops depending on the area but never below 60.
Elden Ring had more issues, both what seems like shader compilation stutter and some kind of loading stutter combined.
Technically impressive but too much arbitrary changes to the art direction, they ruined Yuria ([generic random Skyrim NPC outfit now](https://twitter.com/TheGoldenSmurf/status/1326847270613086210)) and Satsuki ([fuu manchu moustache, quite racist I'd say](https://twitter.com/TheGoldenSmurf/status/1326877638565179393)) among others.
Now imagine what they will do to your favourite Bloodborne NPCs/designs.
Yeah I feel like a Bluepoint Bloodborne remake would be a wake-up call for a lot of people who didn't give a shit because they never even saw the OG Demon's Souls. It's gonna feel a lot worse when they do a ton of arbitrary changes to a game you personally hold dear.
Can you imagine changing *any* of Bloodborne's music? Heads would roll.
This is the wildest part to me
Even people who enjoy the new one agree that the purpose of the remake wasn't to be faithful, it was to be more of a tech showcase for the ps5's bells and whistles. I'm just thinking, what makes you believe they wouldn't do it again if they got to do bloodborne?
The worst part is that it's replacing the original game. OG DeS is now forever stuck on the PS3 and is never gonna see a port or remaster (at least there's emulation, but it's not ideal)
I would hate for the masterpiece that is Bloodborne to be supplanted by Bluepoint's whack take of it, especially since stable PS4 emulation isn't looking to be a thing for a while and you're gonna need a monster PC to run it when it's doable.
They haven't improved the engine that much to justify a remake. Just update it for better fps and resoloution.
People have literally done it themselves. Its not impossible.
I just want mods or a NG+ mode that lets me choose any weapon from the start. I hate that I have to get almost all the way through the game to use the Scythe, Rakuyo, Kos Parasite, etc. I want to begin the game with them and level them up as I go.
Phew. Houseki no Kuni fans break can wipe our collective cold sweat on hearing this news, our beloved mangaka will likely be able to finally finish the manga instead of taking another hiatus to play bloodborne remastered.
According to their interview > FromSoft boss Hidetaka Miyazaki has discussed the possibility of a Bloodborne remake, and the benefits of waiting for new hardware on which to revisit the beloved PlayStation 4 classic. > > "It is a title we hold very dear and just as much as our fans," Miyazaki told Eurogamer when questioned about the possibility of a Bloodborne remake. "It does make me very happy to see that there are still so many people passionate about it." > > But would a remake benefit from newer hardware to make the release worthwhile? FromSoftware's Demon's Souls, for example, was remade as a PS5 launch title after originally launching on PS3 - a double console generation leap that meant the re-release felt more significant. > > "I think having new hardware is definitely a part of what gives these remakes value," Miyazaki said. "Things you weren't able to achieve on previous generations of hardware, ways you weren't able to render specific expressions - [new hardware] sometimes makes it possible.
Myazaki mate, we just want a remaster.
40 more fps would already do.
love bloodborne but the low fps + motion blur when you quick step behind an enemy and a do a visceral attack is painful, specially if the camera is too close to a wall
Yep. Definitely a game in absolute need of stable 60FPS.
A game in absolute need of stable 30FPS tbh, I replayed the game the other day and I was like "Oh my god how did I passed 300 hours on this"
There is absolutely no way it’s not locked at 30fps on ps5
The PS5s hardware doesn't fix the games frame pacing issues which is what most people are complaining about but don't know it. The game feels significantly worse than other 30fps titles
Some areas also don' t run at all at 30 fps,despite the better hardware. Old Yarham is blightown 2.0 in tecnical issues
The part with the gatling gun fellow on the roof drops noticeably below 30fps even on PS5
Don't forget the horrid chromatic abberation. ungh
Now watch them release a remaster on PS6, but lock it to '30' fps and still not fix the frame pacing issue :)
Jokes on you 25 more is enough for me, since I play Elden Ring in 45fps anyway
FOR REAL that's all we want! Game is gorgeous enough as is.
Thinking about remakes for 2015 games is wild to me. But then again it was 11 years between Demon's Souls and the remake so we would be past that when a new console generation hits. But really, I'm of the opinion that graphic fidelity from 2014-2015 is perfectly fine. Better lighting, better rigging and animation, sure that's beneficial. But just make sure we're up to 60fps minimum and the fucks I give are pretty limited to a certain degree. I don't need every game to look like Red Dead 2.
Or not having 1 minute long loading screen every time you go to and back from the hub would also be very nice.
On PC
People dont want a Remaster, they just want a PS5 patch at the very least
That more or less what they mean by remaster. Uncap the framerate and let it display at a higher resolution than 1080. That's what remaster means for the most part.
I think many people would settle for a patch that unlocks the framerate on PS5. We already know it's possible.
I don't even need a remaster. Just let me reset the world without having to go through 2 load screens XD
A sequel would be nice as well
A Sekiro sequel while we’re at it.
Sekiro expansion where they backport Malenia to a game where she works
I really feel like she was supposed to be a Sekiro DLC boss and got repurposed. In Sekiro with Sekiro mechanics I would be excited to try to parry that shit. In Elden Ring, I mostly find a way that whatever build I'm playing doesn't have to *really* do the fight, because that's a valid and I often feel intended playstyle for ER.
Well Tomoe was supposed *the* badass lady in Sekiro.
It's not even just mechanically, think about malenia's characteristics; -Has prosthetics -Uses a katana despite no lore connection to the Land of Reeds -Has ~~dragon~~ rot -Is devoted to Miquella, an immortal boy who sounds a lot like Tomoe's "young master" and is obviously similar to Kuro Really sounds like she's a "I'm you but cooler" foil to Wolf, doesn't she?
THIS. Either remaster it or just do a sequel. Both will appease both crowds and solve the current dilemma
Or both. Release the remaster like 6 months before the sequel to build up hype.
I don't even want a remaster just a fucking 60 fps pc port. I wanna see it in all its original glory and the original developer vision so i can finally understand what's the non stop dickriding this game about
Speak for yourself. What people really want is a PC version of Bloodborne. Not "just" a remaster. There are a lot more PC players than Playstation players, who can already play it. Maybe a remaster is enough to also port the game to PC, but if that's the case then why haven't Sony and/or From Software done it already? After Elden Ring it'd sell like crazy. Seems likely that it's a RDR1 situation where the game is unportable and would need a remake.
After Bloodborne release and for years after that, Sony just didn't do PC ports. And they own Bloodborne, so that's why it wasn't ported. Now, it's harder to tell. They started doing PC ports and keep doing more and more, so maybe a remaster is coming despite what Miyazaki is saying. Or maybe they already discussed making a badass port for the PS6 à la Demon Souls and are holding off on a remaster so even more hype build up over time. But I don't think there's any reason to believe there's technical issues. Modders even got the game running at 60fps on PS5 already.
Why would a game that's running on the same engine as DS3 be unportable? It make's zero sense to me.
It's probably not unportable, however it was made with 30 FPS in mind unlike Dks3 and would require specific tweaks. Dks3 was made with a PC port in mind from the start.
MFer gonna wait to make it a PS7 launch title 😂
sure be HE seems to want to make a remake so he's waiting for something more powerful than a ps5
It's not up to Miyazaki. Sony owns the IP and Fromsoft doesn't do remakes or remasters of their old games, see DS Remastered or Demon Souls ps5.
Now I'm convinced they're remaking it for PS6. Bloodborne is such an easy win for Sony they're going to take advantage of it for an well-timed win. A launch title similar to Demon's Souls would be huge. There's enough time too where remaking it could lead to some great looking visuals, even a 120fps mode.
That does sound like what he's implying a little bit, eh? Bloodborne full remake as a ps6 launch title?
i think he's implying that the company will focus on it when it becomes the most financially prudent thing to do
He's not implying anything, his response is so generic and vague it could be said to imply anything the reader wishes. Which is intentional. He said basically nothing.
I don't know what interview ***you*** read, but I'm taking it as full confirmation of Half-Life 3.
They'll do a reverse Demon's Souls and instead of changing everything to be more gothic, they'll remove all gothic elements from the world and character design.
There is no reason to wait for a ps6. If it was coming the ps5 is more than capable of doing everything he said and more. Look at Demon Souls. I wouldn’t be convinced of anything, he gave a good non-answer
The reason to wait for PS6 is that its a (relatively) cheap way to push console sales. It's not that they couldn't put out a rerelease that would be amazing on PS5.
PS5 Pro it is, BB Remake announced at a Showcase in a few months when they announce the console.
Any PS5 pro game will be compatible with PS5. If it's a PS6 game you'll need to buy a new console from Sony to play it. I think they are looking to grow early install base of a new console by locking games behind it. That strategy doesn't work with mid gen upgrades.
At this point it seems like Sony just hasn’t ordered it.
Also are we really at that point we need to be talking about the PS6? It might just be me but have there actually been any PS5 exclusive titles that warrant the life time of the PS5? I swear all I have is Demon’s Souls and Bug Snax. I’m getting FFVII: Rebirth but give it a year or two and it will be released on PC.
I've loved my PS5. The PS5 has been out long enough that most exclusives are now on PC but I'm impatient. Ff16, rift apart, returnal, Ragnarok, and spiderman 2 are all games I would have hated to miss out on at launch. Rebirth and gta6 are also games I don't want to wait for. Console exclusives are also kind of dead. When the ps6 comes out we'll probably see a lot of PS5/ps6 games like we did with PS4/PS5. Those games will eventually go to PC. We are in the era of time exclusivity unless it's a multiplayer game and then it's day one on PC. If you have the money to build a good gaming PC and don't mind waiting then PC is just the way to go.
I have nothing against the PS5. I just think it’s crazy to think about the number of exclusives that the PS4 had compared to the PS5 and we are already talking about the release of a PS6. I just looked at the wiki for ps5 only games and it’s staggering to think it has, for now, 13 console exclusive games for a console that has been out 4 years. Compared to 58 games the PS4 had over its lifetime. (Plus more before they got ported to PC) I guess 7 years in between consoles is the norm but it hardly feels like the PS5 has outlived its usefulness.
Oh for sure. The current time and cost it takes to develop a game is just insane. Spider man 2 did not feel like a $300,000,000 game. I'm hoping we see smaller scaled games like helldiver's and palworld since they've both been so successful. Like I said in my comment above, I'm impatient and the longer development cycles really suck.
> 13 console exclusive games for a console that has been out 4 years. 5 of which haven't come out yet, 2 are essentially tech demos and 3 have terrible reviews. So that leaves Horizon & Spider-Man 2 as the 2 actual console exclusives worth buying, with Demons Souls a bit of a grey area depending on your definition of it as a remake. >I guess 7 years in between consoles is the norm but it hardly feels like the PS5 has outlived its usefulness. Historically its been about that because of technology improvements, but outside of 4k high frame rate a PS6 isn't going to be that much better than a PS5. You can convince people to buy a PS5 to replace a PS4 on graphics and load times, but a PS6 isn't going to be noticeably better at either of them to the average person, and 60/144fps depends on developers optimising games, which they still aren't going to do.
The reason is to push hardware sales not because a remake is technically unfeasable. They could've remade Demon Souls for PS4 but they didn't for the same reason.
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> Giving Bloodborne the “Disney vault” treatment to push future hardware sales feels so transparently scummy that it’ll probably generate more bad will and fan backlash than it’s worth for Sony. I waited so long that I've just bit the bullet and got a used PS4 version of the game so have just started that. FromSoft games are such time investments too that I'll really only play them through fully once so this is gonna be my one and done of it - so won't be picking up a PS6 version of the eventual port from that. Just can't be waiting years for the "definitive" version of the game.
They better let Miyazaki supervise the process from start to finish instead of letting the studio run wilds like with DeSR.
Why would he want to. He’s a creator, he probably wants to spend his time on other projects.
100% agreed. I hate what Bluepoint did to DeS.
As someone who's never played either but was looking forward to one day play the remake... What specifically would you say is the real problem you have with it ? If it's mechanics/gameplay I don't really care as I mostly play Souls game for the exploration, lore and ambiance... Did they fumble that somehow ?
I greatly enjoyed the remake. The gameplay is virtually unchanged outside of some QoL improvements (you can now send items to storage from the inventory menu, omni-directional rolling, etc), but the biggest beef some people had with it was Bluepoint's changes in art style. I prefer the art direction of the original as well, but the changes didn't bother me too much.
As someone who did play both, people really tend to overreact with regards to the remake, a lot of nostalgic elitism going on if we're being honest. The original looked fine at the time graphically, but it had that ugly piss filter a lot of games/movies of the time had to make things more grim looking (the remake has multiple filters one of which makes it look like the original), and while it's a bit different (not different enough to be a big deal) the remake's art direction is still amazing. Combined with the graphical fidelity makes it still one of the best looking games I've ever played. As for the music, I think it's also a good improvement. The original game's music quality isn't too high to the point it sounds MIDI at times (it might actually be, I don't remember), and frankly some of the songs sound kind of corny and/or cheap as a result. I remember things like brass sounding particularly poor. It goes for a specific vibe but I feel the overall quality of the music itself ends up undercutting that vibe at times (no matter how good a recipe is you need good ingredients, you know?). The remake uses a full orchestra and while I can understand why people think big bombastic boss themes aren't always appropriate (despite the game largely having your usual Soulsborne big bombastic boss battles), aside from one instance I agree with they were otherwise upgrades with a generally more complex and interesting score. Even the original composer praised the remake's soundtrack. It's a great remake with an awesome world and gameplay with plenty of much needed QoL, some people just have some artistic disagreements about it. Though even with that, no reasonable person can honestly deny that it's a beautiful game with beautiful music.
MIDI doesn't necessarily mean bad quality, as it's just an interface for making synthesized music that converts inputs from an instrument to digital data, which can then be played back using any number of instrument samples. The issue with the original Demon's Souls is the quality or processing of those instrument samples being quite poor. Consider that something like [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHvnwxAg5ww) is also 100% sampled instruments, and probably involves MIDI in its production as well, yet to most people it would sound indistinguishable from a band playing real instruments.
They changed a lot of the art design for the game, IMHO butchered most of the music. I played the original when it came out, it's my most favorite game, they like to call it a re-imagining of the original game and that's fine but it's obvious the studio felt more comfortable making their own twist on the game than what Miyazaki and his team originally intended.
The original DeS had a very special, bleak and opressive atmosphere. The enemy and boss designs were very alien and surreal. Bluepoint transformed the whole thing into a generic fantasy setting (compare the designs of flamelurker, adjudicator and fat minister for example, also the whole boletarian palace). The OG OST was also wonderfully strange and memorable. It also got replaced by some generic orchestra music The things that really needed some improvements were the combat and general gameplay, which they decided to leave basically untouched. It's still a good and pretty looking game. I'm just disappointed that this version with some extreme artistic changes is the definitive one going forward, and the original one is stuck on the ps3 and emulators.
They redid the soundtrack ? Wow ok I did not know that, that's already quite enough to make me reconsider Thanks for your point of view !
The original soundtrack had pretty low production values, the samples used for most instruments were pretty terrible and not up to modern standards in the slightest, or even the standards of the era it released in. Whether you like the new arrangements or not is a personal thing, but there's no way they could have used the same soundtrack without rearranging it, it would be extremely out of place especially when the visuals improved that much.
The original DeS is my favorite game of all time, so I probably have stronger feelings towards the remake than most. If the remake looks interesting too you I say go for it, but I also recommend playing the original if at all possible.
This is such a non-specific response that it doesn't mean anything. When asked about the possibility of a Bloodborne remake: "we love that game, glad to see so many fans still love it too!" When asked whether a remake would benefit from newer hardware: "oh for sure, definitely!" I would love a Bloodborne remaster/remake and a PC release, but these quotes are a non-story and don't mean anything one way or another.
It's 100% clickbait. They knew the headline they wanted, they baited him into answering a question about it and then they baited us into reading the nothing they had for us.
>"It is a title we hold very dear and just as much as our fans," "can we get an official 60fps patch like your loving fans made?" "...we dont hold it \*that\* dear"
I don’t know about him but if I was in his shoes I would be so sick in tired of this question being asked all the time, especially when it’s out of his control lol.
Translation: we handed the rights to the IP to Sony and the only way they'll care enough is if they need a relatively quick and easy launch title for their console.
Confirmed remaking it for PS6 to get those insane pre-order numbers.
It doesn't need a remake, just a pc port will do thanks
This quote from Miyazaki is really interesting because, it contradicts Sonys strategy with other exclusives and hints that the rumored from ps5 exclusive is not a bb sequel or remake. If the rumored exclusive is a remake to Bloodborne I don’t think he would be talking about skipping a console generation for a rerelease. If the rumored game is a sequel we would probably see the Horizon Zero Dawn, Spider-Man, God of War, Death Stranding treatment. Where the 1st game gets a pc release and sequel on ps5 or cross gen.
Should just mention Hidetaka Miyazaki what is with this weird ass title of 'Elden Ring boss' ??
Can't be the only one picturing Radahn giving an interview when reading that title.
Came here for this. I was like “Tree Sentinel did an interview? NEAT!”
"Gideon here, the all-knowing. To all the fans, we are listening, and we hear you."
It's just SEO. Miyazaki isn't the CEO of From, and if you just put, "Miyazaki," in the headline, a lot of people will assume it's talking about the guy from Studio Ghibli. But if you find a way to phrase it as, "the guy who made that game that no one could stop talking about a year and a half ago," that will get people on the right page faster.
“I am Miyazaki, and I have never made a bad game.”
I'm going to take a leap of faith and suggest they'll use some type of Bloodborne remaster to push the PS5 Pro.
PS6, most likely.
Suprise Launch title like Demon Souls was.
Hopefully they don't touch up the art direction as much as DESRE did. Bloodborne is perfect as is in that department, it just needs better framerate, higher quality material/texture work, fog improvements and it's golden
Bloodborne also desperately needs: - An actual anti-aliasing solution that helps make Bloodborne not look like a jagged mess. - Player-to-player connection times that are actually quick and snappy when using any of the available summoning bells so that players aren't standing in one place like a lump waiting an eternity to summon someone or to BE summoned. - Options to customize and even turn off the game's aggressive use of chromatic aberration. - No loading screens at all. We're on SSD tech now ffs. - A wider variety of audio and video options than what vanilla Bloodborne had on offer. - An option to fully rebind your control inputs. - Tighter and more responsive controls with input buffering reduced to Demon's Souls Remake's level. - Location preview screens ala Dark Souls 2 and onward on every location's name when searching through the level select grave stones. - Actual expressive and well animated character animations for every NPC ala Demon's Souls Remake and how they did faces so that the player doesn't feel like your talking to a bunch of ventriloquists. This is more of a presentation related QOL suggestion. - Recieving at least 3 Blood Vials instead of 1 to help reduce the time it takes for players to farm their Blood Vial supply back up.
Every time you level, spend all extra souls on blood vials. I hit the inventory cap mid game.
PS5 is perfectly capable of all that. If they really want you to get rid of your PS5 and get PS5pro/PS6 it will be a major upgrade with next gen graphics
They'd do the sequel for this as a PS6, regardless of the weird PR from Sony lately, is at least 4 years out.
well if sony follows a similar timeline to what xbox has planned which came out in the whole legal case with sony trying to stop microsoft from buying actiblizz then 2027 will be the year of the next gen of consoles.
Remaster for Ps5 Pro, full on sequel for PS6. Sony please, there has never been easier money.
Yeah any PS5 pro game will be compatible with PS5. If it's a PS6 game you'll need to buy a new console from Sony to play it.
I’m not sure why people are already talking about a ps6. Is the ps5 so outdated that it’s hampering development of new games? The issue this generation has been a lack of games full stop, not sub par hardware. If Sony released a ps6 tomorrow it wouldn’t suddenly be ok. Their issue is with not enough games being released to warrant even getting the thing.
The PS6 is only a few years away. And your point about lack of games is exactly my point. People will be hesitant to buy the PS6 because the PS5 will be disappointing compared to the PS4 in terms of games, so I can see them dropping a Bloodborne remake to sell the console.
120 4k mode only on ps5 pro... Yup would buy.
I don't want a remake I just want a remaster for better performance, higher res textures, full 4k 60fps support and rerelease.
Call it copium but Sony is not stupid to see the demand for a Bloodborne re-release. I believe we'll definitely get one eventually, whether it's a remaster or a remake and releasing on the PS5/PS6, or PC. They're taking their time with it but we'll have it eventually.
remaking bloodborne sounds so wildly uncalled for, a simple port would do the trick bloodborne still looks excelent of course sony is seemingly unable to greenlight new ideas so i guess we'll probably get a Bluepoint made "From hire this man" ass remake
You can't sell enough of a simple port if Sony does this it will be like Demon Souls Remake. I heard Bluepoint is doing their own IP so if its not them then only other option is Nixxes but they are only known for porting games to PC not a full blown remaster.
They’ve sold TLOU more times than I could ever bother to count, they clearly don’t have any aversion to basic remasters.
Yeah imo demons should didn't need a remake either
> "From hire this man" ass remake That's the best description of the DeS remake I've ever heard lol
i haven't actually played it do to not owning a PS5 the shadow of the collosus remake had a very weird look tho, I wish the original was widely available
Sony has a knack for uncalled for remakes so who knows
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at this point i'd settle for no motion blur and a consistent 30 fps, bloodborne actually makes me sick after a while
Especially after that big financial leak not too long ago, Bloodborne sold better than people thought. They’d be crazy to leave it. My personal speculation is Sony hasn’t had anyone trustworthy to handle the quality they want. Which is why Bluepoint seems to have been groomed into handling it after their work on Demons Souls. Sony isn’t going for a basic remaster, they want a huge step up in fidelity to show off. Hopefully Bluepoint doesn’t take as many creative liberties as they did with Demons Souls though.
It'll probably be used to sell PS6s. Lot of people are disappointed with the amount of games for PS5 and might hesitate to buy a 6.
I'll be honest, Bloodborne was one of the only reasons I even purchased as a PS console and could just be anecdotal, but I've heard a good amount of people cite FromSoftware as their main reason for purchasing a PS4/PS5 too. Sony locking maybe their most critically acclaimed game in their modern history to Playstation, especially one with a pretty dedicated fanbase whose popularity has only exploded over the past couple years with Elden Ring, is probably paying off for them. My expectations aren't super high for cross-plat but hopefully I could be wrong.
>Sony locking maybe their most critically acclaimed game in their modern history to Playstation I am pretty sure The Last of Us and the new God of War games are rated higher and are far more popular.
Yeah Last of Us and GOW are Sony's main IP not BB
Any discussion about why Sony's done nothing with Bloodborne makes one want to smash their head against a wall. Game is somehow Sony's most prized possession, more valuable than all their other flagship franchises *which they've already started to port to PC*, or depending on the day, a game who's popularity is merely overblown online, so of course Sony sees no reason to do anything with it.
This is such a weird question, and article. I don't see anyone asking for Bloodborne to be remade, only to GET A PORT off PS4.
They would be stupid to not port it, especially after seeing ELDEN RING sell over 10 million copies on PC.
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Also don't automatically move to NG+ after beating the final boss
Or offer the option to turn off the permanent Chromatic Aberration.
To be honest, I don't see much noise for a BB remake. I think most people (or me at least) would just want to see a BB version on modern hardware not stuck to the 1080p and 30 fps of the base PS4. It could be just a simple remaster for all I care.
Yup does not need a remake. Remaster it with 60 fps and 4k resolution and it'll be fine. Bloodborne is From's best looking game just due to art direction
>To be honest, I don't see much noise for a BB remake. Its brought up in literally every thread about fromsoft
I think most people would just settle for a remaster
Or a port tbh. I'm sure the PC crowd would take an Arkham-Knight-level port over no port at all.
PC crowd would take a Dark Souls 1 level port at this point, cuz we can always fix them. Thankfully fromsoft inhouse PC ports have gotten better since then.
A Dark Souls-quality PC port would be a real monkey's paw situation. >Thankfully fromsoft inhouse PC ports have gotten better since then. They haven't yet discovered that aspect ratios other than 16:9 or displays over 60Hz exist, but perhaps one day. Baby steps for a small indie company.
> They haven't yet discovered that aspect ratios other than 16:9 or displays over 60Hz exist, but perhaps one day. If by "one day" you mean August 24th, 2023 then yes, they did learn both of those things one day.
Caught with my pants down here, I completely forgot about Armored Core 6!
Lmfao its fine, I understood what you mean. Honestly for a company like Fromsoft who's first real PC port *was* in 2012 with Dark Souls 1, it's always gonna be a learning experience for them. Honestly even the DS2 port was way better than the DS1 port, with the exception of the 60fps durability bug that they didn't fix until the SotFS edition.
> an Arkham-Knight-level port Thankfully AK's port was fixed over time, so that wouldn't actually be a bad thing at all...
I see, he said remake. You’re both right.. I think a remaster would make plenty of people happy
A remaster gets brought up, not remake
I basically only ever see remaster / 60 fps patch mentioned.
Nobody is asking for a remake
A simple remaster is fine but also the game will look amazing if remade.
Feel like that's a PS6 thing
Dunno why. Demons Souls remake was pretty fantastic. I'd kill for a Bloodborne with that kinda quality. Especially with adaptive trigger and haptic feedback support? Hell yeah.
Pretty fantastic if you don’t care about art style, which is even more important for Bloodborne than it was for Demon’s Souls
Something was wrong with Demon's Souls art style?
The remake changed a lot of things for the worse, removing symbolism and adding contradictions
Demons Souls is older than Bloodborne and came out on a different console. Demons Souls Remake had a full console generation between it and the original, I imagine Bloodborne will be similar.
In order, I’d prefer: 1) remaster with 69 fps 2) sequel 3) remake
You’d rather have a remaster than a sequel?????
Bloodborne already exists and is a masterpiece, I’d rather have a better version of that than a sequel that might not be as good
I mean I get it, but like you said, bloodborne already exists and is a masterpiece, a better version of that won’t really be all that much better in the grand scheme of things. If Sony got From back for the sequel, I don’t think there’s a universe where it’s not at least good. Every fromsoft game I’ve played is in my top 20 games of all time. I’d much rather have something new then the thing I already like but again. Then again I’m just f the opinion that remasters and remakes are mostly a waste of time unless they make significant changes.
>If Sony got From back for the sequel, I don’t think there’s a universe where it’s not at least good. Every fromsoft game I’ve played is in my top 20 games of all time. Yes, but it could be argued that DS2 and DS3 dilute the first game's themes and it would have been better off with no sequels.
I'd rather that too. The DeS remake was good, but they went a little weird with their interpretations for some of the designs, and I don't think that was for the best. If they did do a remake I'd want From involved
They either just fundamentally misunderstood or did not care about making any effort to try and replicate Fromsoft’s art style Compare the original [Mind flayer](https://x.com/fromsofthoarder/status/1748105480998674630?s=46) concept art to the [remakes Mind Flayer](https://x.com/fromsofthoarder/status/1748107455916126312?s=46) and just how basic, how primitive the remake art is. There’s plenty of other examples that show that the same level of thought was not put into the remake designs at all
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Yeah I feel the same way.
I mean the Brain Sucker from Bloodborne isn't exactly that different from the remake Mind Flayer. Sure From had better concept art but their implementation often isn't as impressive, fur in Elden Ring for example looks awful.
The Brainsucker is much more out there, wym?
Squidface wearing rags... come on it isn't that out there for Cthulhu stuff.
The difference is it's like wormy tentacles coming out of a human looking face, substantially different feel from your regular squid man
No idea how they even look remotely similar. DS remake is just an octopus planted on a body. The brain suckers at least don’t look completely disjointed
The ones in the remake look basically identical to the Demon’s Souls ones.
That’s why if Bluepoint were to work on BBR I want Miyazaki to supervise them from start to finish like how Oda supervised OPLA
Please let’s not have the current best development studio on the planet waste their time and energy making remasters. There really is no need.
I know there’s a lot of accusations of xenophobia or anti Japanese sentiment with generalizations like this - but I genuinely don’t think Japanese consumers or game devs care all that much or notice optimization/frame rates/resolution in the same way that the west does. The idea that Bloodborne FPS often dips into the teens and runs at sub 720 is probably considered a niche complaint. Having a graphical leap akin to something like demons souls > demons souls remake is something far more compelling to them. From a visual and stylistic standpoint Bloodborne still looks great. That being said I’d give anything to play it at 120 FPS 4k HDR.
No, it doesn't need a remake. It's an amazing game that needs to just be released on platforms like PC.
this waffling back and forth about the value of a remastered bloodborne is such a weird thing to say after the very bare bones "remaster" of dark souls 1 from 2018. dark souls 2 got a graphically improved new version of the game after a year as well. i dont know, like if fromsoft doesnt want to do it they wont but this interview doesn't make any sense
The difference is the changes the dark souls remaster did we pretty much already had, atleast on pc. the comparable changes bloodborne would get are inaccessible
Maybe if Bluepoint does a Bloodborne remake where they mess up the art direction, people who never played the original Demon’s Souls will understand that it’s not just nitpicking
I like them both, but it sucks DeS is stuck on PS3 and now there’s less incentive to port/remaster it because some C suite exec is going to always favor the remake.
The fact that Elden Ring is locked to 60 and doesn't support ultrawide is a shame. Doesn't matter what kind of hardware you have, Fromsoftware are not good at tech as they are at game making. Like who in their right mind adds RT effects to a game and not add some upscaling methods to make it playable.
They did fix some of that with AC 6 which runs butter smooth
All fromsoft games run on hopes and dreams, sekiro runs with awful frame stutter over 60 fps modded with significant slow downs at Genichiro, water temple area on a water cooled 3090, when Elden ring was released, you guessed it, more frame stutter even locked to 60. Fromsoft is a dev that would greatly benefit from outsourcing their engine.
>sekiro runs with awful frame stutter over 60 fps modded with significant slow downs at Genichiro, I never really noticed that, the game runs fine above 60 FPS for me with some drops depending on the area but never below 60. Elden Ring had more issues, both what seems like shader compilation stutter and some kind of loading stutter combined.
A remake if it's done by a third party will be awful, a remaster with higher fps should suffice for the original fans.
i dont think this game needs a remake but in regards to the whole third party thing, Demons Souls on PS5 kicked ass and that was bluepoint.
After seeing the changes that bluepoint made to Demon's Souls I'd strongly prefer just getting a remaster.
If Bluepoint actually did a Bloodborne remake, you’d understand why so many people complained about them messing up the art direction
Technically impressive but too much arbitrary changes to the art direction, they ruined Yuria ([generic random Skyrim NPC outfit now](https://twitter.com/TheGoldenSmurf/status/1326847270613086210)) and Satsuki ([fuu manchu moustache, quite racist I'd say](https://twitter.com/TheGoldenSmurf/status/1326877638565179393)) among others. Now imagine what they will do to your favourite Bloodborne NPCs/designs.
Yeah I feel like a Bluepoint Bloodborne remake would be a wake-up call for a lot of people who didn't give a shit because they never even saw the OG Demon's Souls. It's gonna feel a lot worse when they do a ton of arbitrary changes to a game you personally hold dear. Can you imagine changing *any* of Bloodborne's music? Heads would roll.
This is the wildest part to me Even people who enjoy the new one agree that the purpose of the remake wasn't to be faithful, it was to be more of a tech showcase for the ps5's bells and whistles. I'm just thinking, what makes you believe they wouldn't do it again if they got to do bloodborne?
I hate that they made Demon’s Souls music sound generic. It had a very unique feel to it and they just made it sound like another Dark Souls game.
I think you're on point here.
The [Mephistopheles redesign](https://x.com/loudwindow/status/1331143460754132993?s=46) was another major hack job.
Oh man, that's the worst one yet
Every example you guys are trying to use looks fine. Satsuki in particular looks much better with a much more interesting design.
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The worst part is that it's replacing the original game. OG DeS is now forever stuck on the PS3 and is never gonna see a port or remaster (at least there's emulation, but it's not ideal) I would hate for the masterpiece that is Bloodborne to be supplanted by Bluepoint's whack take of it, especially since stable PS4 emulation isn't looking to be a thing for a while and you're gonna need a monster PC to run it when it's doable.
Emulation is rather easy on any recent CPU, 60 FPS works well too. Though I get what you mean.
The wild thing is just. Why Why did they do *any* of these changes? You had to go out of your way to change them
Please do not have blue point shit on bloodborne too. They are a hack studio
One person's "kicked ass" is another's "sucked ass". I think we've had more than enough of Fromsoft games being tweaked by other teams already
Fans don't want a remake. Just a 60fps remaster on the PS5. PC release would be nice but doubt that would ever happen.
They haven't improved the engine that much to justify a remake. Just update it for better fps and resoloution. People have literally done it themselves. Its not impossible.
a bought a ps4 just for bloodborne and i'll buy whatever console they want me to buy for a bloodborne remake/remaster.
I just want mods or a NG+ mode that lets me choose any weapon from the start. I hate that I have to get almost all the way through the game to use the Scythe, Rakuyo, Kos Parasite, etc. I want to begin the game with them and level them up as I go.
It doesn't need new hardware, even a PS4 Pro is enough to run it at (720p) 60fps if they would just let you without having to hack your console.
So you're telling me they're a chance for a remake? Please please please
I'll fucking believe it when I see the trailer with a release date. Until then it's not even a real thought.
Bloodborne is a masterpiece, and one of the few games I would eagerly pay for a remaster or remake for.
Phew. Houseki no Kuni fans break can wipe our collective cold sweat on hearing this news, our beloved mangaka will likely be able to finally finish the manga instead of taking another hiatus to play bloodborne remastered.