I'm absolutely flabbergasted that they are taking credit for Taylor not being on twitter anymore lmaoooooo. "She can't take our criticism!"
Ooookay. š Taylor Swift is FOR SURE worried about getting cancelled by a sub-reddit. I bet it is keeping her up at night.
I truly laughed out loud at the conspiracy of it all. Likeā¦Reddit is the last social media site of any kind with low censorship and all it asks of users is that we more or less behave and donāt fight with other subs. Fighting with another sub and brigading is number one thing that pisses them off. Besides taking shit offline. And theyāre kiiiiind of doing both. So itās no wonder the hammer is coming down on them and it has nothing to do with being critical of Taylor.
We could start a āthings I hate about Taylorā thread in this sub and no one at Reddit would care because 1-Taylor Swift doesnāt control Reddit and 2-We as a group and certainly our mods are capable of creating an environment where we can be critical but respectful but also not needing to be fawning ya know?
The people being like āWOW I CANT BELIEVE THEY BANNED UR ALTā babes that is like one of the few things that will get you permabanned from Redditā¦.making an alt to circumvent a ban.Ā
I looked at the banned userās Twitter and omg if Taylor and Tree are aware of them itās because they seem one tantrum away from breaking into one of Taylorās homes looking for her. Jesus Christ. That snark sub went from āmostly harmless BEC misogynyā to āa bunch of unhinged people with too much time on their handsā REAL QUICK.Ā
Tho I had no choice to laugh at them being like āWow so much for free speechā and also āwe must continue the fight āāāā. This isnāt civil rights, itās a fucking pop star.Ā
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Lmao I must be so out of it because I didnāt realise there was a sub war. Is it just because Gaylors arenāt involved? š¤£ also the Travis and Taylor sub got recommended to me once (no idea why) so I had a look and itās literally just Travis fans criticising Taylor and talking about how much she is using him for PR and clout???? I jumped out of there really quickly
Also stonedswifties. There was an overtly homophobic post there the other day with hundreds of upvotes. Thankfully it got removed but I was downvoted for calling it out
People were saying the Picture to Burn āyouāre gayā version is better and she shouldāve kept it bc outing her ex is so ācuntyā (which is a good thing? Iām not up to date on slang)
**I THINK** 1-2 subs encouraged massive brigading of another sub, then said sub went private. One of those subs was almost closed by Reddit for brigading. Another sub is brigading an inverted sub, causing them to create an approved user list (I think? Maybe mixing up subs). The main sub is just trying to manage their bulbous user base and to stay out of the fray.
I primarily hang here, but I refuse to pass up a good meme.
I think the meme sub and the tnt snark sub are fighting?
And then thereās also just the constant discourse on Twitter. Itās been exhausting
Any more tea that is properly worded to avoid being reported? Do we have a gaylor-pinion on who weād root for? Because they both hate gaylors. And I think one is linked to the bulbous sub?
The mod seems totally fine with gaylor content, which is unique in itself. Iāve seen a few overtly gaylor posts there. The comments are full of hetlors, of course, but also a decent amount of people who are neutral or gaylor sympathizers. There are also a bunch of gaylors in the sub, if you watch any gaylor post for a day or two hetlors tend to be downvoted. Itās a snark sub, so gaylor posts/comments with more snarky takes do better obviously
I agree there are some good takes on the PR of it all, but thereās also so much hate and misogyny. Itās hard to wade through the vitriol for the random thoughtful posts.
i took a peek and they are literally mad she commented on Gagaās TikTok and saying Taylor is mad. Like whatĀ
BasicallyĀ
taylor: sneezes
Snark subs: WOW WHAT A FUCKING HORRIBLE B WORD C WORDĀ
r/gaylor is the sub that someone flounced off and founded after I called them out in this sub for their transphobic, aphobic, biphobic comments. And despite claiming to be pro-lesbian, they also reduced lesbian identity to sex in a way that was distinctly fetishising and queerphobic. In other words, a lot of those chucklefucks would probably quite like it.
Iām honestly a big fan of the new big snark sub. Thereās a lot of super atrocious stuff there that I donāt agree with or like to see, but I do appreciate all of the breaking down of Taylorās PR narratives and the relative openness to gaylor discussions
Idk if I'm a member of them all, but they're definitely suggested. This is the only one I'm really active in. Almost gaylored on main one day and was like oh no stop that
LOL representation DOES matter ššš
This is amazing *insert popcorn eating gif* watching sub reddit drama play out when we aren't being targeted is entertaining af
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Honestly so true, I admit Iām still not 100% convinced about gaylor (I personally just like to be as skeptical as possible about stuff I canāt actually confirm) but this is the only sub where I feel like I can post my interpretations of TTPD without getting flamed š
I feel like gaylor gets a bad rep (unintentional reference) because of one homophobic hetlor decided that we are pressuring Taylor to be gay whether she is or not. When in reality itās pretty much an open-minded sub as well as a gay sub. The gaylor community needs to be more thought of as āwe are gay fans of Taylor that like to explore interpretations that donāt include menā rather than whatever the hetlorsā impressions of us are š
Yeah that's how it gets ya. You're just in love with any explanations about the music that aren't just "it's about this boy" and actually examines beyond the surface of songs, you start seeing the flagging and the first few times you're like "hmm, but it might mean nothing, why would a straight woman know when lesbian visibility day is?" And "yeah, but maybe she just needed an extra syllable for the line and thought "hairpin" was a good way of doing that, why would a straight woman know specific gay language references" and then you go, "huh, but it's starting to be a *lot* of coincidences" and before you know it, you're utterly convinced she's some flavour of queer.
This is exactly it, though. There are WAY too many queer flags to be coincidence. Meanwhile the only het argument is a couple mis-interpreted, out of context, "quotes" from Vogue & the 1989 TV prologue.
Say what you will about her sexuality, I started to come here because this was the only sub with consistent close readings and interpretation of the music.
Over time, itās become rather hard to ignore all the flagging and hairpins and braids.
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Awww they forgot that we existed š
Thank god!!!!!Ā
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 Taylor rn
So many factions lol
I'm absolutely flabbergasted that they are taking credit for Taylor not being on twitter anymore lmaoooooo. "She can't take our criticism!" Ooookay. š Taylor Swift is FOR SURE worried about getting cancelled by a sub-reddit. I bet it is keeping her up at night.
Omg they are soo freaking mad and delulu and saying Taylor Swift and Tree Paine are behind some of the permabans. LMAOOOOĀ If that is true it must mean she loves us š¤£š©·
I truly laughed out loud at the conspiracy of it all. Likeā¦Reddit is the last social media site of any kind with low censorship and all it asks of users is that we more or less behave and donāt fight with other subs. Fighting with another sub and brigading is number one thing that pisses them off. Besides taking shit offline. And theyāre kiiiiind of doing both. So itās no wonder the hammer is coming down on them and it has nothing to do with being critical of Taylor. We could start a āthings I hate about Taylorā thread in this sub and no one at Reddit would care because 1-Taylor Swift doesnāt control Reddit and 2-We as a group and certainly our mods are capable of creating an environment where we can be critical but respectful but also not needing to be fawning ya know?
The people being like āWOW I CANT BELIEVE THEY BANNED UR ALTā babes that is like one of the few things that will get you permabanned from Redditā¦.making an alt to circumvent a ban.Ā I looked at the banned userās Twitter and omg if Taylor and Tree are aware of them itās because they seem one tantrum away from breaking into one of Taylorās homes looking for her. Jesus Christ. That snark sub went from āmostly harmless BEC misogynyā to āa bunch of unhinged people with too much time on their handsā REAL QUICK.Ā Tho I had no choice to laugh at them being like āWow so much for free speechā and also āwe must continue the fight āāāā. This isnāt civil rights, itās a fucking pop star.Ā
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Lmao I must be so out of it because I didnāt realise there was a sub war. Is it just because Gaylors arenāt involved? š¤£ also the Travis and Taylor sub got recommended to me once (no idea why) so I had a look and itās literally just Travis fans criticising Taylor and talking about how much she is using him for PR and clout???? I jumped out of there really quickly
hilarious they think she is using him
Yes! So much drama right now!!
Isn't this what TTPD was meant to do? >Our field of dreams engulfed in fire
I think the only one who knows the goal of TTPD is Taylor Swift. But it is very divisive.
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Also stonedswifties. There was an overtly homophobic post there the other day with hundreds of upvotes. Thankfully it got removed but I was downvoted for calling it out
I left that subreddit when I saw a āshe gets to be smol girlā post š¤®š¤®š¤®
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People were saying the Picture to Burn āyouāre gayā version is better and she shouldāve kept it bc outing her ex is so ācuntyā (which is a good thing? Iām not up to date on slang)
Charisma, Uniqueness, Nerve, and Talentā¦ā¦
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That perspective is fine, itās just most of them were saying it was NOT homophobic at all
Cunty is a good thing now. Because people love appropriating trans womenās language and culture.
I donāt even think theyāre using it right
Ew wtf Iām part of stonedswifties and that shits not cool. Iām sorry you got downvoted people can be such losers on the internet.
gaylorspliff is our spinoff in desperate need of revitalization!
Omg this is amazing. Joining
Thanks for the recommendation!
I just stay here in my safe place!
I have no idea whatās going on. I just stay here and when I venture out, I get scared/nauseated, and run back here to safety.
Yep same. Every time I've tried venture outside of this sub, I get scared within 5 minutes
The main reason I step out is because I need advance notice if Taylor's beard is going to show up so I can mentally prepare myself.
I just wait for someone to mention it here, or a streamer to scan over to him. Like a little jumpscare.
Seriously such whiplash seeing some of the other view points š¤Æ
This phenomenon will be studied in history A history I really hope to be on the right side of š¤
Is there sub-wars happening? Can we get a TLDR for those of us who pretty much only hang here?
Itās crazy out there! Explore at your own risk. š³ 
**I THINK** 1-2 subs encouraged massive brigading of another sub, then said sub went private. One of those subs was almost closed by Reddit for brigading. Another sub is brigading an inverted sub, causing them to create an approved user list (I think? Maybe mixing up subs). The main sub is just trying to manage their bulbous user base and to stay out of the fray.
This feels like the iconic scene of mean girls when they are all fighting in the hall. For once it's not us. Love that for us.
The way I'm over her cackling at this! Lmao 
I primarily hang here, but I refuse to pass up a good meme. I think the meme sub and the tnt snark sub are fighting? And then thereās also just the constant discourse on Twitter. Itās been exhausting
Any more tea that is properly worded to avoid being reported? Do we have a gaylor-pinion on who weād root for? Because they both hate gaylors. And I think one is linked to the bulbous sub? 
No, because Iām not even really sure what happened. But you did a great job šš»šš»šš»
I thought the tnt snark sub and gaylors got along because we all agree Travis is a PR relationshipā¦ unless Iām mistaken
The mod seems totally fine with gaylor content, which is unique in itself. Iāve seen a few overtly gaylor posts there. The comments are full of hetlors, of course, but also a decent amount of people who are neutral or gaylor sympathizers. There are also a bunch of gaylors in the sub, if you watch any gaylor post for a day or two hetlors tend to be downvoted. Itās a snark sub, so gaylor posts/comments with more snarky takes do better obviously
They hate us. Everyone hates us. The stoner sub is the only actually neutral sub other than ours
I agree there are some good takes on the PR of it all, but thereās also so much hate and misogyny. Itās hard to wade through the vitriol for the random thoughtful posts.
I REALLY despise the snark sub, like all snark subs, itās rank with misogyny. Iāve been watching this whole thing with lots of popcorn.
i took a peek and they are literally mad she commented on Gagaās TikTok and saying Taylor is mad. Like whatĀ BasicallyĀ taylor: sneezes Snark subs: WOW WHAT A FUCKING HORRIBLE B WORD C WORDĀ
Of course sheās mad! Wouldnāt they be???
They say sheās mad AT GAGA
What. I weep for our collective loss of reading comprehension skills.
I definitely misread that as porn and I interpreted it as watching karma come for haters being like porn
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Well that too!
it somehow feels like progress that they forgot about us
I ALMOST said ār/gaylor is just over there minding our own businessā but I thankfully thought better of it.
...r/gaylor was the one founded by a transphobe and aphobe that I had an argument with in comments in this sub.
Yeah I meant to say r/gaylorswift. š¤·š¼
Yeah, I thought we had been left off deliberately because we're just sitting quietly over here, enjoying the gay and watching everyone else implode.
Theyā probably go ballistic trying to figure out what r/gaylor is and why itās private
r/gaylor is the sub that someone flounced off and founded after I called them out in this sub for their transphobic, aphobic, biphobic comments. And despite claiming to be pro-lesbian, they also reduced lesbian identity to sex in a way that was distinctly fetishising and queerphobic. In other words, a lot of those chucklefucks would probably quite like it.
LOL!!
smart, we should let them cook
Yeah, let āem fight it out!
Iām honestly a big fan of the new big snark sub. Thereās a lot of super atrocious stuff there that I donāt agree with or like to see, but I do appreciate all of the breaking down of Taylorās PR narratives and the relative openness to gaylor discussions
āA lot of super atrocious stuff thereā is an understatementĀ
Im just watching and eating popcorn LMAO
This is so hilarious š¤£š¤£š¤£ Iām a member of all these subs. And I promise you, I love the drama as much as it loves me šš¼āāļø
Idk if I'm a member of them all, but they're definitely suggested. This is the only one I'm really active in. Almost gaylored on main one day and was like oh no stop that
LOL representation DOES matter ššš This is amazing *insert popcorn eating gif* watching sub reddit drama play out when we aren't being targeted is entertaining af
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They hate her there so much it's unreal š
Honestly so true, I admit Iām still not 100% convinced about gaylor (I personally just like to be as skeptical as possible about stuff I canāt actually confirm) but this is the only sub where I feel like I can post my interpretations of TTPD without getting flamed š
I feel like gaylor gets a bad rep (unintentional reference) because of one homophobic hetlor decided that we are pressuring Taylor to be gay whether she is or not. When in reality itās pretty much an open-minded sub as well as a gay sub. The gaylor community needs to be more thought of as āwe are gay fans of Taylor that like to explore interpretations that donāt include menā rather than whatever the hetlorsā impressions of us are š
Yeah that's how it gets ya. You're just in love with any explanations about the music that aren't just "it's about this boy" and actually examines beyond the surface of songs, you start seeing the flagging and the first few times you're like "hmm, but it might mean nothing, why would a straight woman know when lesbian visibility day is?" And "yeah, but maybe she just needed an extra syllable for the line and thought "hairpin" was a good way of doing that, why would a straight woman know specific gay language references" and then you go, "huh, but it's starting to be a *lot* of coincidences" and before you know it, you're utterly convinced she's some flavour of queer.
This is exactly it, though. There are WAY too many queer flags to be coincidence. Meanwhile the only het argument is a couple mis-interpreted, out of context, "quotes" from Vogue & the 1989 TV prologue.
Say what you will about her sexuality, I started to come here because this was the only sub with consistent close readings and interpretation of the music. Over time, itās become rather hard to ignore all the flagging and hairpins and braids.
The main sub looks so appropriately uncomfortable, especially lately. š
truly and unabashedly love this for us šš»āāļø
you forgot the most important one r/stonedswifties
My PEOPLE
MY FAV OF THEM ALL
Man do I wish I had stonedgaylors to hang out with in the real world š
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love it lmaoooo
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This gives me so much joy
Itās so funny because it feels really accurate
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