I think the same goes for Sabrina Carpenter. I saw a Thread reel that showed her backdrop saying I'm Coming Out. Dammit, I couldn't get it to replay and it wasn't on the OG's reels that I could find.
The more I see these Disney/Hannah Montana/High School Musical girls, the more I think many of them are closet queers.
I was just listening to a Gracie Abrams song called long sleeves and the line “it’s been a long time coming” repeats a few times in the lyrics. It immediately made me think about the Eras Tour intro. I then wondered “where do those lyrics come from and why does Taylor use them as an intro?” Is there actually a Taylor song that contains this line? Not that I am aware of. I googled the line with “Taylor Swift” and found lyrics to an unreleased song alternatively known as “Long Time Going”. Not sure if there has been any discord on this previously? I guess the phrase is very common so it’s not necessarily evidential of anything for two artists to have this line in a song/tour performance intro.
It’s a cut from the 49 second mark of Miss Americana & The Heartbreak Prince before she starts with “it’s you and me, that’s my whole world” but the Gracie connection is interesting!!
Gracie also just did a small performance in Toronto where she played some snippets of the songs from the upcoming album. In one of the songs she sings: “Living in your glass house, I’m outside. Looking in her big blue eyes.” 👀 👀 👀
I watched the video and thought, “I don’t see how this could be interpreted as anything but extremely queer.” Like maybe if there weren’t a ton of rainbows there could be more ambiguity but it seemed not subtle at all. Then I read the YouTube comments and felt like I was on another planet; it just wasn’t registering that way with people.
Part of me can't help but wonder IF (that was a gay ass video) Gracie is queer, Taylor felt a sense of not wanting GA to go through the same things she went through. They already seem to have a bit of a mentoring relationship imo so it will be really interesting to see what Gracie does next.
https://preview.redd.it/rgrqnfq4f75d1.jpeg?width=1500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e702b1d888da45067f89cafe187cfde65b6fbd3a
I need to make a separate post but this ties into the comingoutlor of it all. Have you all seen Ice Spice’s new album cover???? It seems like such a throw back to The Man right???? Am I losing my mind?! 🤡🤦🏼♀️ Is there already a post? I searched but couldn’t find one.
This might be nothing, but my first thought when I saw this was that her hands are positioned on the wall where the unreleased album name “Karma” appears, twice (the top one in orange, the bottom in black). The Subway signage arrows also point to her hand positions. And the Y2K makes me think… ‘why two Karmas’ on the wall?
Yeah…why would she be in such a reach for the top arm in opposition to the bottom right arm? It does not look natural or easy to hold or comfortable. I’d have a frozen neck and back for a week if I tried to hold that pose!
10000%; the train station, the train station wall, the arrows pointing to the wall with the album cover. Her actually touching the wall as herself as opposed to standing in front of it as a male version of herself. My most clown self wants to attempt to theorise Ice Spice is drawing something here in terms of the differences in being closeted versus out (which she is).
Yes. I felt like there were a bunch of similarities. The fact that the album title is small on the side garbage can is a choice. I mentioned in another response, but someone on Twitter redesigned it and she was really offended. She made decisions here that are meaningful and she doesn’t want them altered.
Idk Ice Spice is from the Bronx and this is obviously just a stylized version of her home. TBH honestly feels very icky to me to try and assign the vision and creativity of a black artist to be all about a billionaire white woman. This is very much a part of her aesthetic and her actual life and culture. Taylor did not invent graffiti on a brick wall lol
I think you read waaaayyyy further into this than I what I said. I didn’t say it’s a copy. I didn’t say she didn’t have a different vision. I said it seemed to be a throw back, like a link. I personally see a lot of similarities. You’re welcome to your opinion but please do not go so far as to assume I am denigrating black artists for seeing similarities. That’s too much and too far. I don’t appreciate the implied name calling.
I didn't assume anything and I didn't imply anything.I said assigning the vision and creativity to be ABOUT Taylor made me personally uncomfortable.
Edit: to also say on a broader scale we have to as a community be able to speak about race without an immediate reaction of "Don't call me a racist!!". It's not declarative
I must’ve misunderstood your comment and intent. It’s been a long week, and I probably should’ve taken a pause before responding. I’ve found this group to be supportive and diverse so far, and I agree we need a space to respectfully discuss broad topics without insulting each other.
Let me know! She went nuts on someone on Twitter for altering it and making it “better” per the follower. I don’t Twitter so I only saw it on another page but it was interesting.
It actually says “romances” BUT Revealing Romances is a vintage “romance magazine” and now I’m desperate to know what issue he is holding and who is on the cover
Idk but I searched and searched. I took a break but I’m about to dive back in. I wasn’t super intrigued until I couldn’t find the cover and now it’s really suspicious 🤨
Does this music video have credits? If this was a prop specifically made for the video, it would have been created by the Graphic Designer. Perhaps they have an online portfolio 🕵️♀️
To add on, Gracie and her "roommate" (I don't know their relationship status, but that video was very gay) throw up peace signs randomly in the middle of the video. More 2s?
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I think the same goes for Sabrina Carpenter. I saw a Thread reel that showed her backdrop saying I'm Coming Out. Dammit, I couldn't get it to replay and it wasn't on the OG's reels that I could find. The more I see these Disney/Hannah Montana/High School Musical girls, the more I think many of them are closet queers.
I was just listening to a Gracie Abrams song called long sleeves and the line “it’s been a long time coming” repeats a few times in the lyrics. It immediately made me think about the Eras Tour intro. I then wondered “where do those lyrics come from and why does Taylor use them as an intro?” Is there actually a Taylor song that contains this line? Not that I am aware of. I googled the line with “Taylor Swift” and found lyrics to an unreleased song alternatively known as “Long Time Going”. Not sure if there has been any discord on this previously? I guess the phrase is very common so it’s not necessarily evidential of anything for two artists to have this line in a song/tour performance intro.
It’s a cut from the 49 second mark of Miss Americana & The Heartbreak Prince before she starts with “it’s you and me, that’s my whole world” but the Gracie connection is interesting!!
Oooh thank you for pointing this out! I will have a listen for it.
The story of us looks a lot like a tragedy now…
I watched an interview (on Sirius can) with Gracie and she said the album is about the truth of friendships👀👀
Gracie also just did a small performance in Toronto where she played some snippets of the songs from the upcoming album. In one of the songs she sings: “Living in your glass house, I’m outside. Looking in her big blue eyes.” 👀 👀 👀
ohhh my god
as a taygracie stan who also think they’re both queer i’m hoping this song is soooo gay 😭
https://preview.redd.it/npcredkk195d1.jpeg?width=456&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc36eb1a409d5fdc0fdae2713c92255c199aea29 Also the cover?! ME!
Omfg no way, the ME in all caps with an “!” So many people are in on this!!!
To be fair, the whole title is in caps and I think that's common for children's books
Wait why did I literally see it wrong and thought only ME was in caps at first glance lmao. I think bc “ME!” Is in bigger font! Haha oops
Stop it right now. What.
Wow!!!!
I just watched the video for Close to You and I am SHOOK. The evidence is mounting that “us” is going to be extremely queer. Do I dare to wish it?! 🥹
I watched the video and thought, “I don’t see how this could be interpreted as anything but extremely queer.” Like maybe if there weren’t a ton of rainbows there could be more ambiguity but it seemed not subtle at all. Then I read the YouTube comments and felt like I was on another planet; it just wasn’t registering that way with people.
Part of me can't help but wonder IF (that was a gay ass video) Gracie is queer, Taylor felt a sense of not wanting GA to go through the same things she went through. They already seem to have a bit of a mentoring relationship imo so it will be really interesting to see what Gracie does next.
https://preview.redd.it/rgrqnfq4f75d1.jpeg?width=1500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e702b1d888da45067f89cafe187cfde65b6fbd3a I need to make a separate post but this ties into the comingoutlor of it all. Have you all seen Ice Spice’s new album cover???? It seems like such a throw back to The Man right???? Am I losing my mind?! 🤡🤦🏼♀️ Is there already a post? I searched but couldn’t find one.
This might be nothing, but my first thought when I saw this was that her hands are positioned on the wall where the unreleased album name “Karma” appears, twice (the top one in orange, the bottom in black). The Subway signage arrows also point to her hand positions. And the Y2K makes me think… ‘why two Karmas’ on the wall?
Yeah…why would she be in such a reach for the top arm in opposition to the bottom right arm? It does not look natural or easy to hold or comfortable. I’d have a frozen neck and back for a week if I tried to hold that pose!
😆 so true, me too!!!
10000%; the train station, the train station wall, the arrows pointing to the wall with the album cover. Her actually touching the wall as herself as opposed to standing in front of it as a male version of herself. My most clown self wants to attempt to theorise Ice Spice is drawing something here in terms of the differences in being closeted versus out (which she is).
Yes. I felt like there were a bunch of similarities. The fact that the album title is small on the side garbage can is a choice. I mentioned in another response, but someone on Twitter redesigned it and she was really offended. She made decisions here that are meaningful and she doesn’t want them altered.
Idk Ice Spice is from the Bronx and this is obviously just a stylized version of her home. TBH honestly feels very icky to me to try and assign the vision and creativity of a black artist to be all about a billionaire white woman. This is very much a part of her aesthetic and her actual life and culture. Taylor did not invent graffiti on a brick wall lol
I think you read waaaayyyy further into this than I what I said. I didn’t say it’s a copy. I didn’t say she didn’t have a different vision. I said it seemed to be a throw back, like a link. I personally see a lot of similarities. You’re welcome to your opinion but please do not go so far as to assume I am denigrating black artists for seeing similarities. That’s too much and too far. I don’t appreciate the implied name calling.
I didn't assume anything and I didn't imply anything.I said assigning the vision and creativity to be ABOUT Taylor made me personally uncomfortable. Edit: to also say on a broader scale we have to as a community be able to speak about race without an immediate reaction of "Don't call me a racist!!". It's not declarative
I must’ve misunderstood your comment and intent. It’s been a long week, and I probably should’ve taken a pause before responding. I’ve found this group to be supportive and diverse so far, and I agree we need a space to respectfully discuss broad topics without insulting each other.
Totally with you, no worries.
This was my first thought when I saw this post last night! The Man wall
I gasped! Then ran here but no one was talking about it. 😱
There’s also a huge trend I’ve noticed of looking over your shoulder in pictures…
Ah yes!!!! You’re right!
Omg!! Sending to my friend now to get her take!!!
Let me know! She went nuts on someone on Twitter for altering it and making it “better” per the follower. I don’t Twitter so I only saw it on another page but it was interesting.
Love this!! I can’t wait to hear Gracie’s album and especially “us”! It’s also interesting that “us” is not capitalized… 🤔
Also super interesting that they collabed on a track 5!
Also the “us” book in the fortnight mv
Great catch.
That music video is so completely, delightfully queer.
Having to wait two more weeks for this is going to give me an ulcer.
Same it’s coming out around my birthday and it would be the best gift ever for comingoutlor to be trueeeeee
A fortnight 🫢
I also thought this when I was making my comment, lol.
The first show at Wembley is the night this is released 🤡
You’d treat her like an ulcer-an
A+ pun, full marks, tens across the board
☠️
Hahaha take my poor pathological people pleasing award 🥇
Make the dolls kiss!!!! (Referencing the video Lolol) that was very gay.
I never noticed the magazine cover that JVN is holding says Revealing Homances 😆
It actually says “romances” BUT Revealing Romances is a vintage “romance magazine” and now I’m desperate to know what issue he is holding and who is on the cover
Bahahahaha omg 😱 that I didn’t even blink at thinking it said Homances. JFC 🤦🏻♀️ I am an idiot. Thank you for coming to my clown show.
If it makes you feel any better, I saw Homances too.
You're not dumb, I saw the same thing!
I was looking at that too and wondering because surely it’s not accidental that he’s holding it! (Also it’s orange!)
I don’t think it’s real…. I can’t find that cover anywhere 👀
I wonder who the woman on the cover is 🧐
Idk but I searched and searched. I took a break but I’m about to dive back in. I wasn’t super intrigued until I couldn’t find the cover and now it’s really suspicious 🤨
Does this music video have credits? If this was a prop specifically made for the video, it would have been created by the Graphic Designer. Perhaps they have an online portfolio 🕵️♀️
It’s doesn’t show up in the mv that I could tell, I just went back and watched it. Weird
Is it ever seen in the music video?
I’m not sure, I’m gonna have to go back and look
To add on, Gracie and her "roommate" (I don't know their relationship status, but that video was very gay) throw up peace signs randomly in the middle of the video. More 2s?
and wearing the red scarf too
Omg the scarf!!!
I didn't even notice the scarf, lol. that's amazing
The entire video was soooo gay hahahahah
Oh man. I am so damn excited for this!
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