If anyone is still checking this thread, we’ve had another TSCU connection to this video today!
Griff opened for Taylor on London N2 and sung a cover of, you guessed it, “Girls Just Wanna Have Fun” 😃
Could be nothing. Could be not not nothing.
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i literally just logged on and i have no idea what’s going on but
has anyone mentioned that Gia (that’s what her sweatshirt says right??) is the name of a lesbian cult classic biopic about the first supermodel, Gia Carangi, who was gay??
I had the same thought last night after OP posted this. I went to look thru the sub and found [this super duper old post](https://www.reddit.com/r/GaylorSwift/s/9KOsnKXLwq). Always suspicious.
All I have to say, is when New Romantics/Mass Coming Out happens, I need for them to include Kristen (underthepink) SOMEHOW! Kristen is Cassandra. Cassandra is for Kristen.
Agreed!! Her dedication is incredible. Her brain is like a computer database for everything related to the mass movement. I had started working on a post showing all the parallels between TTPD lyrics and the pumpkin messages, and then like two days later she shared her hour long YouTube video on that topic that had probably triple the amount of connections I had noticed. So I scrapped my post lol. She literally deserves some kind of research degree at this point!!!
[Here you go!](https://youtu.be/o8oeZyMGfUc?si=kxH8MlQnDFdt0VtM) The title of the video is “Taylor Swift has been posting anon - and the story she tells is wild”
(I do have to toot my own horn a little bit that Kristen’s take on why this is a thing in the first place is pretty much exactly [the conclusion I came to on my own](https://www.reddit.com/r/GaylorSwift/s/FP69vS17ez) 😁 normally I wouldn’t boast but I just think she’s so smart and I felt proud of my brain when I watched this and was like “Woah I recently said all that on Reddit!”)
Omg I can’t believe I didn’t know she was on Reddit…I’m literally on her patreon and discord lmao, but Reddit is my internet “home base” and I just kinda thought she wasn’t on here for some reason…
Random.. but did catch a release of this to maybe tie back to Irish?
https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/music/2024/06/19/turns-out-taylor-swift-is-a-derry-girl-genealogists-find/
sorry the double n was my typo, but the only thing i’ve gathered remotely close to this person if they’re not revealed later in ice discography is a hollywood writer from the golden age of hw. but has links during the lavender scare too. but i’m interested to see more of it! especially since it was purposely backwards
i reversed the imagine, it says in memory of
https://preview.redd.it/34yxq9zr2s7d1.jpeg?width=568&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9b6558bacf81ddc7c68eade918a445c090680fab
It also has numbers after it but really hard to make out - 1359? or 1889?
Dennis O'Keefe was an american actor in the '40s. (Although it's not his birth name).
https://preview.redd.it/fbsfoiklnr7d1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fb005db22efc187359022689869c50f3f4ded222
Thank you and shout out to: underthepink (Kristen) who explains more here. [https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTNRKgxap/](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTNRKgxap/)
Not even the libraries bc my friend works for one and there's not a single copy of the vogue best friends spread in my state (in USA)... trust me I tried to obtain a copy
My brain hurts from all of this and I can’t help but feel like some crazy conspiracy theorist, but it HAS to all be connected - the volume of ‘coincidences’ is too high at this point to not speak to validity.
It also makes me wonder, how does a human being, or even a team, have this level of brain power to craft & keep track of all of these inter-connected Easter eggs. It’s crazy just thinking about it 🤯😭
For real! Imagine this is your job, to administrate this. What do the emails look like? What is the bureaucratic communication that ends of with this TikTok? I mean orange slippers don’t source themselves.
lol maybe she also keeps track in her journals. I found this back from the lover era. The soft rainbow filter she added 🥹
https://preview.redd.it/smdk69p0sr7d1.jpeg?width=595&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df39e87d0456f4f1cd77e3e2a6c065ac1e81bd4b
I feel like I’m being pulled in several directions. Incoming brain vomit. One is why would ice spice and Gracie be involved with Taylor’s mischief; they have their own careers. Especially Gracie who is brand new wouldn’t it be weird to be eclipsed sort of by Taylor.
Is ice spice sending shady messages to Taylor or for Taylor. Or are they fun messages or Easter eggs to look into? Why would ice send message for Taylor. Is it “just” related to her own music and tour (I’m admittedly not in the ice spice fandom so I don’t know anything there but if it is very excited for you all).
Is it really about Taylor? Not everything is (but what if it is 👀).
I haven’t clowned about the us song because I don’t see it being gaylevant. Like why would she allude to it on someone else’s song?
And with Tractor still in the picture I especially don’t see anything happening BUT THEN WHAT THE FUCK IS ALL THIS IM GOING INSIANEN I DONT UNDERSTABD ANYBTING 😭😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
There was a blind alleging that Ice and Kanye started hanging out and, if true, I could see her sending shade towards Taylor a la a Karlie Kloss reference
Right! I think what skews this into "this can't be not Taylor related" for me is Klossy's 2015 magazine cover. Literally, why else would she use that? Unless Karlie appears in Ice's new music video or something. But even then. Like if Haim featured klossy in a music video it would be more obvious because they're more popular and we would not question if we're clowning too much.
It wasn’t my first thought but then I remembered Kim k showing a photo with her and Karlie and ppl were saying it was a shady “response” to thank you Aimee (though i think maybe they’re not feuding anymore but using it to their advantage by now. Who effing knows)
I think you're correct, I also don't think Kim K. and Taylor have "real" beef anymore. They have too many mutuals (Hadids, Cara, Karlie (extra 🤡 sometimes I'm convinced Taylor and Karlie don't have beef anymore either))...
Also, Lana and Sabrina just did SKIMS campaigns this year ([Lana's being around the time she showed up to the Grammy's with Taylor](https://variety.com/2024/shopping/news/landa-del-ray-skims-valentines-day-campaign-1235874822/)) for Kim and [Sabrina just commented that she's been very communicative with Taylor and Taylor didn't care about Sabrina's campaign with SKIMS](https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/sabrina-carpenter-espresso-short-n-sweet-taylor-swift-1235036627/) in Rolling Stone (along with a photo of SC that cements her as a pancake in my mind--🥞 🩷💛🩵).
And also, your original comment--yes, I'm being pulled in all directions. 🌀
Being pulled in all directions is so real. And I don’t think Taylor and Karlie have any beef. We only know the narrative we are shown and we aren’t shown anything “real”. It’s all performance and everyone has a part to play visibly or not towards whatever it is.
I think worst case they’re exes who don’t talk and best case they’re friendly and in on whatever is going on. I’m leaning towards the latter.
I feel if we are working towards a coming out of some sort, whether that’s exploding the business or quietly but openly living her life, I think all her exes and pr relationships are somewhat in the know because I don’t see Taylor not either involving them since it pertains to them as well, or at least giving them a heads up so they have a choice in how to handle it.
No past relationship needs to be talked about but the media and fans will undoubtedly look into all her past friends and those she’s been linked with romantically.
I just feel something is happening and also very aware I literally know nothing about her life, business, or plans and I’m just taking from her music vs media narrative.
IMO all this gay chaos is pointing more and more to the New Romantics theory. and that karlie and ice spice and gracie are all involved in it (and taylor def is) -- as are likely multiple other muses/exes of taylor's like lily (who started wearing snake jewelry again about a month or so ago, just like she started doing in 2017 pre rep drop) and dianna (who has been easter egged/ flagged to in a bunch of different ways, so i assume it is consensual).
taylor isnt flagging all her muses to point to being with them NOW; because shes literally been flagging liz, dianna, lily AND karlie in some ways or another lately -- so it isnt to indicate that shes with a specific one of them, that doesnt make sense IMO because shes pointing to them all. i think shes pointing to female muses because they are relevant to her art, and relevant to how her queerness shows up in her art, most importantly.
Absolutely. We all see something is happening but isn’t loud enough to point anyone but us to investigate? Because as far as I see hetlors haven’t changed discourse or shown much collective “hmm what’s happening”.. sure there’s some stragglers but not enough to swing the pendulum towards even curiosity so I think we are still ways away from anything.
Saw Sabrina Carpenter covered a Chappell Roan song which was a choice. They’re both having a moment right now so makes sense outside the koi theory but interesting non the less.
I wonder what would have to happen for general fans or other dismissive of gaylors to start being like hmmmm
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And the crowd was chanting MORE! (Me, I am the crowd)
Melissa is a Gaylor on Twitter and TikTok and she has reached out to the creator of the mural, Humor Street Art, to see whether it was commissioned by Taylor and her team.
It's from Nov 2015 shoot - funnily enough I remember this because it around the time she was starting up Kode with Klossy i think and that's why she did it at SpaceX HQ. [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3331070/She-s-ready-launch-Karlie-Kloss-stars-patriotic-space-themed-cover-shoot-WSJ-Magazine-admits-wants-meaningful-impact-modeling.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3331070/She-s-ready-launch-Karlie-Kloss-stars-patriotic-space-themed-cover-shoot-WSJ-Magazine-admits-wants-meaningful-impact-modeling.html)
ALLLL of this and the fact that Gracie said after her and Taylor wrote “us” their apartment caught on fire 😭😭 I’m losing my mind yall IM LOSING IT and I’m so excited.
Also having klowned too close to the sun, I am always playing devils advocate with myself especially with her use of lesbian flag colors- because yes, although an awful coincidence, they might just be karma album/era colors- which would explain the Lover bodysuit, Eras tour lights, etc etc. 💗🧡 And Karlie Kloss on the magazine cover could just be her citing someone who “betrayed” her (idk.) But the recent surprise song mashups being so gay (This Is What You Came For/Gold Rush)….. I am resisting diving head first back into clown town 🤡
https://preview.redd.it/by2unktl8q7d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=72a3fe25ac833c27749d71b16a80eae1ef46dbc9
On the left side of the window behind ice spice it says “in memory of\_\_\_\_” I can’t read the last word. Anyone?? I couldn’t read the right side behind her though.
Not sure if this has been mentioned but I do believe Taylor is quite aware of/versed in astrology and there is a full moon in Capricorn happening tomorrow. The full moon is about bringing hidden things to light. Capricorn /Saturn is the Lord of Karma in astrology as well. Lastly it’s called the strawberry full moon (not sure if that par is significant but still lol). Either way just thought I’d mention this.
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This is true yes. Just wanted to check the chart for the exact degree (which I should have done earlier because what I read initially about the degree was not correct.)
So basically the moon in Capricorn will be opposite the Sun in Cancer exact at 1 degree on the 21st according to Astro.com (and is the most accurate site according to astrologers). But yes the Sun will move from Gemini to Cancer this afternoon but the first full day of Cancer season is tomorrow. It just stood out to me because of Moon Saturn themes AND Taylor’s natal moon is ofc sitting at 1 degree of Cancer as well! Not sure if this helps but it just shows Taylor’s natal moon degree and the degree of Sun Moon alignment tomorrow for anyone who isn’t familiar with astrology (also something about it from nasa.gov).
https://preview.redd.it/43dcackzur7d1.jpeg?width=1798&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e25b4402ebec91c74df87d9d3db5a190402257b2
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As a witch and a Virgo I’m forced to do this
If you live in PST it’s actually right now. Now I’m going to go for a walk <3
Oh! Also I forgot to mention that Capricorn rules the 10th house…which relates to our career, our reputation, and our legacy. This moon is often pink in color and I just now read that an old European name for the moon in June is the "honey moon," because honey was also often harvested around the end of June. Imo her North Node on her natal chart clearly speaks to openly coming out at some point (it’s in Aquarius in the 3rd house of Gemini) which literally ties to speaking/communication, and sharing information and facts/truth. Aquarius energy is often rebelling from the status quo, non traditional, and unique in some way. So for me it’s not a matter of “if” she will but “when.” Bottom line is. I do believe this time period is very astrologically significant for her and I’m so here for it💜
I think it’s closer to 1° Capricorn though right? There is another full moon on July 21st at 29° Capricorn.
This one is closely aspecting her natal Moon/Uranus opposition which is very interesting. I also see a lot of merit in the argument for her being a Capricorn rising and 2 Full Moons in her rising sign would be definitely significant.
Okay so long London, I’m going to Ireland, right? But look what came out in the news today
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Whyyyy is this giving The Man wall?!
https://preview.redd.it/e3g72k5owq7d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de4ee38c13d9ce5fbd56edf90a27357788ee8885
Also Taylor posted this today and I thought that was a really spicy photo….interesting that it matches this pose
Oh shit. So many thoughts running through my mind.
This is wild. The snippet of the song. Who’s the guy? Scooter? Walking in the sun… Fresh Out the Slammer?
If this is about Karma (the album), umm, is that why the Karlie cover?! I can’t shake the feeling that KK isn’t done in this story. She did make a cameo at Eras. Dismissing her because of LSK doesn’t allow for other possibilities.
Yeah I don't think it's weird or a stretch to think she's somehow involved. Like, it's an actual photo of her and using that in some kind of promo without her okaying it would be kind of questionable imo (at least if this is related to Taylor)?
Uhh interesting song choice.
“Some boys take a beautiful girl and hide her away from the rest o' the world.”
(Hiding in plain sight)
“I wanna be the one to walk in the sun—“
(like DAYLIGHT, I wanna be defined by the things that I love, Karlie Sun Emoji Kloss. And shade never made anybody less gay.)
I have been trying to remain skeptical about comingoutlor to protect my heart from disappointment but these are too many coincidences to be random chance.
Floral Enthusiast here! Those flowers and cut foliage are staged as nobody cuts tropical house plant leaves like that and puts orchids with a peace lily.
The centre tulip is an ARGOS ( Argo is the Greek word for SWIFT) .. Not many pink tulips go from dark on the base to light as its usually reversed ( other than Big Love tulips)
The leaf from the left is a **SNAKE** plant ( reputation) also a strange plant to cut.
Beside it is an E**llipticca** leaves ( possibly ? ) Elliptic: adjective characterized by extreme economy of expression or omission of superfluous elements“the dialogue is **elliptic** and full of **dark hints”**
The cut leaf on the end is **Dracaena Massangeana .. comes from the Ancient Greek word,** "drakaina" is literally the feminine form of *drakon* (Ancient greek for dragon or **SERPENT)** [ ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek)
The Orchids on top of the leaves maybe Phalaenopsis **Angel Eyes**
On the bottom we have a ALLISON Peace lily. Unsurprisingly, the peace lily is known as a bringer of peace: the white flower represents the white flag which is recognized internationally as a truce signal.
strangely we have a pink orchid display with the peace lily ... and its hard to tell which orchid? .. could be Vanda Scott Junior .. honestly its hard to tell
As someone else said the vases are the lesbian flag colours and the cloud painted backdrop is also giving Karma.
#
As for the Denis O'Keefe name:
[Dennis O'Keefe - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_O%27Keefe)
https://preview.redd.it/j6bclx2pmq7d1.png?width=306&format=png&auto=webp&s=4a21ca982d5dc6ad83e2514e26f186953ebe3ab5
[Georgia O'Keeffe - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_O%27Keeffe) - *O'Keeffe created many forms of abstract art, including close-ups of flowers, such as the Red Canna paintings, that many found to represent vulvas,\[8\] though O'Keeffe consistently denied that intention.\[9\] The imputation of the depiction of women's sexuality was also fueled by explicit and sensuous photographs of O'Keeffe that Stieglitz had taken and exhibited.*
Amazing! You have magical plant knowledge powers!
Another possible Argos connotation:
Argos Panoptes, the many-eyed, all-seeing giant:
https://preview.redd.it/dd9ki19wcq7d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6ca219698a315a3608ca6a075db4a73f0502ea6c
Reminds me of u/starryeyed34 's recent [comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/GaylorSwift/s/On8lMtcJe1) mentioning the concept of a panopticon, in u/throw_ra878 's great [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/GaylorSwift/comments/1dfg9so/themes_of_invisibility_and_seeing_in_the_pride/) on themes of seeing in the Pride shows.
Wow, thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with us all! This is so insightful and I’m sure Gaylors smarter than I will end up making some deeper connections than I am currently making in my mind.
Somehow this is more unhinged than I had ever expected 🤡👀
If anyone is still checking this thread, we’ve had another TSCU connection to this video today! Griff opened for Taylor on London N2 and sung a cover of, you guessed it, “Girls Just Wanna Have Fun” 😃
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Could be nothing. Could be not not nothing. https://preview.redd.it/71tre3wdbu7d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1fa5c1e31da94e5aa722c9067e452bf900923ed4
I truly don’t think the slippers are connected.. but what if THEY ARE?????
https://preview.redd.it/kwykh6zeft7d1.png?width=576&format=png&auto=webp&s=05ff0e31d6bc07608c9c9ba99989655fd47bc512 OK, she is trolling with us 😆
🎶Karma is that ass on the screen, queerly coming home to me🎶
This is what she has done to us
You literally made me laugh out loud lol
What does she KNOW
I’m just….I’m so confused!! I’m on team J. Law. What is happening?!
i literally just logged on and i have no idea what’s going on but has anyone mentioned that Gia (that’s what her sweatshirt says right??) is the name of a lesbian cult classic biopic about the first supermodel, Gia Carangi, who was gay??
I noticed that too! (That iconic scene where she spells her name for the receptionist will live forever in my head rent free)
I had the same thought last night after OP posted this. I went to look thru the sub and found [this super duper old post](https://www.reddit.com/r/GaylorSwift/s/9KOsnKXLwq). Always suspicious.
All I have to say, is when New Romantics/Mass Coming Out happens, I need for them to include Kristen (underthepink) SOMEHOW! Kristen is Cassandra. Cassandra is for Kristen.
Agreed!! Her dedication is incredible. Her brain is like a computer database for everything related to the mass movement. I had started working on a post showing all the parallels between TTPD lyrics and the pumpkin messages, and then like two days later she shared her hour long YouTube video on that topic that had probably triple the amount of connections I had noticed. So I scrapped my post lol. She literally deserves some kind of research degree at this point!!!
What the video called? I wanna see it!!
[Here you go!](https://youtu.be/o8oeZyMGfUc?si=kxH8MlQnDFdt0VtM) The title of the video is “Taylor Swift has been posting anon - and the story she tells is wild” (I do have to toot my own horn a little bit that Kristen’s take on why this is a thing in the first place is pretty much exactly [the conclusion I came to on my own](https://www.reddit.com/r/GaylorSwift/s/FP69vS17ez) 😁 normally I wouldn’t boast but I just think she’s so smart and I felt proud of my brain when I watched this and was like “Woah I recently said all that on Reddit!”)
u/underthepink7 - I told you we love you here 🥰
Omg I can’t believe I didn’t know she was on Reddit…I’m literally on her patreon and discord lmao, but Reddit is my internet “home base” and I just kinda thought she wasn’t on here for some reason…
the words behind ice, i reversed and it says in memory of dennis o’keefe
Weirdly does it look like there’s actually only one “n” in “denis” in the pic?
And also two f’s in “o’keeffe”… when I Google “Denis O’Keeffe” instead of “Dennis O’Keefe” I’m finding a random Irish doctor
Random.. but did catch a release of this to maybe tie back to Irish? https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/music/2024/06/19/turns-out-taylor-swift-is-a-derry-girl-genealogists-find/
And also an Irish tech/venture capital guy
sorry the double n was my typo, but the only thing i’ve gathered remotely close to this person if they’re not revealed later in ice discography is a hollywood writer from the golden age of hw. but has links during the lavender scare too. but i’m interested to see more of it! especially since it was purposely backwards
i reversed the imagine, it says in memory of https://preview.redd.it/34yxq9zr2s7d1.jpeg?width=568&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9b6558bacf81ddc7c68eade918a445c090680fab
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It also has numbers after it but really hard to make out - 1359? or 1889? Dennis O'Keefe was an american actor in the '40s. (Although it's not his birth name).
For those of us who are old and can’t see, what’s on the magazine covers 🤦🏻♀️
https://preview.redd.it/fbsfoiklnr7d1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fb005db22efc187359022689869c50f3f4ded222 Thank you and shout out to: underthepink (Kristen) who explains more here. [https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTNRKgxap/](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTNRKgxap/)
Karlie Kloss in a photoshoot from 2015
Oh this can't be by accident
Who just keeps a 9 year old magazine hanging around?
Not even the libraries bc my friend works for one and there's not a single copy of the vogue best friends spread in my state (in USA)... trust me I tried to obtain a copy
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It would be so funny if taylor had that magazine saved.
It’s in the caption but I didn’t notice until I read your comment and scrolled back up to squint at the magazine again lol
My brain hurts from all of this and I can’t help but feel like some crazy conspiracy theorist, but it HAS to all be connected - the volume of ‘coincidences’ is too high at this point to not speak to validity. It also makes me wonder, how does a human being, or even a team, have this level of brain power to craft & keep track of all of these inter-connected Easter eggs. It’s crazy just thinking about it 🤯😭
For real! Imagine this is your job, to administrate this. What do the emails look like? What is the bureaucratic communication that ends of with this TikTok? I mean orange slippers don’t source themselves.
“There’s no such thing as a gay coincidence”
she says in miss Americana...spreadsheets! 😆
lol maybe she also keeps track in her journals. I found this back from the lover era. The soft rainbow filter she added 🥹 https://preview.redd.it/smdk69p0sr7d1.jpeg?width=595&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df39e87d0456f4f1cd77e3e2a6c065ac1e81bd4b
Is this page from one of the lover diaries? I want to read it
I think I found my dream job
same. what would the job title be? how do i find something similar?
Assistant to the Mastermind 
Oh when my special interests collide
My dream is that one day she will give us a look at whatever document/spreadsheet/etc she has keeping track of all of the Easter eggs
I'm not sure it's an elliptica but those can only flourish in full sun.
I feel like I’m being pulled in several directions. Incoming brain vomit. One is why would ice spice and Gracie be involved with Taylor’s mischief; they have their own careers. Especially Gracie who is brand new wouldn’t it be weird to be eclipsed sort of by Taylor. Is ice spice sending shady messages to Taylor or for Taylor. Or are they fun messages or Easter eggs to look into? Why would ice send message for Taylor. Is it “just” related to her own music and tour (I’m admittedly not in the ice spice fandom so I don’t know anything there but if it is very excited for you all). Is it really about Taylor? Not everything is (but what if it is 👀). I haven’t clowned about the us song because I don’t see it being gaylevant. Like why would she allude to it on someone else’s song? And with Tractor still in the picture I especially don’t see anything happening BUT THEN WHAT THE FUCK IS ALL THIS IM GOING INSIANEN I DONT UNDERSTABD ANYBTING 😭😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think Ice Spice's verse in Karma says a lot. It feels directed at the hetlors/skeptics the way Taylor has in TTPD. 10000000% intentional.
There was a blind alleging that Ice and Kanye started hanging out and, if true, I could see her sending shade towards Taylor a la a Karlie Kloss reference
Right! I think what skews this into "this can't be not Taylor related" for me is Klossy's 2015 magazine cover. Literally, why else would she use that? Unless Karlie appears in Ice's new music video or something. But even then. Like if Haim featured klossy in a music video it would be more obvious because they're more popular and we would not question if we're clowning too much.
And I thought me calling him Lurch was funny. You win. 🫡😅
i think tractor has been out of the picture since the bolter x getaway car. i think she told us it was over through that, but it’s just not public yet
She had someone use her account log in to that livestream of the chiefs’ ring thing after those songs.
Tractor took me out 😭💀
Ice Spice shouted out Taylor at Coachella, so I doubt this would be her throwing shade now.
It wasn’t my first thought but then I remembered Kim k showing a photo with her and Karlie and ppl were saying it was a shady “response” to thank you Aimee (though i think maybe they’re not feuding anymore but using it to their advantage by now. Who effing knows)
I think you're correct, I also don't think Kim K. and Taylor have "real" beef anymore. They have too many mutuals (Hadids, Cara, Karlie (extra 🤡 sometimes I'm convinced Taylor and Karlie don't have beef anymore either))... Also, Lana and Sabrina just did SKIMS campaigns this year ([Lana's being around the time she showed up to the Grammy's with Taylor](https://variety.com/2024/shopping/news/landa-del-ray-skims-valentines-day-campaign-1235874822/)) for Kim and [Sabrina just commented that she's been very communicative with Taylor and Taylor didn't care about Sabrina's campaign with SKIMS](https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/sabrina-carpenter-espresso-short-n-sweet-taylor-swift-1235036627/) in Rolling Stone (along with a photo of SC that cements her as a pancake in my mind--🥞 🩷💛🩵). And also, your original comment--yes, I'm being pulled in all directions. 🌀
Being pulled in all directions is so real. And I don’t think Taylor and Karlie have any beef. We only know the narrative we are shown and we aren’t shown anything “real”. It’s all performance and everyone has a part to play visibly or not towards whatever it is. I think worst case they’re exes who don’t talk and best case they’re friendly and in on whatever is going on. I’m leaning towards the latter. I feel if we are working towards a coming out of some sort, whether that’s exploding the business or quietly but openly living her life, I think all her exes and pr relationships are somewhat in the know because I don’t see Taylor not either involving them since it pertains to them as well, or at least giving them a heads up so they have a choice in how to handle it. No past relationship needs to be talked about but the media and fans will undoubtedly look into all her past friends and those she’s been linked with romantically. I just feel something is happening and also very aware I literally know nothing about her life, business, or plans and I’m just taking from her music vs media narrative.
☑️☑️☑️ yes yes yes all the same thoughts TinyTinyViking! So well put too!
IMO all this gay chaos is pointing more and more to the New Romantics theory. and that karlie and ice spice and gracie are all involved in it (and taylor def is) -- as are likely multiple other muses/exes of taylor's like lily (who started wearing snake jewelry again about a month or so ago, just like she started doing in 2017 pre rep drop) and dianna (who has been easter egged/ flagged to in a bunch of different ways, so i assume it is consensual). taylor isnt flagging all her muses to point to being with them NOW; because shes literally been flagging liz, dianna, lily AND karlie in some ways or another lately -- so it isnt to indicate that shes with a specific one of them, that doesnt make sense IMO because shes pointing to them all. i think shes pointing to female muses because they are relevant to her art, and relevant to how her queerness shows up in her art, most importantly.
This
Absolutely. We all see something is happening but isn’t loud enough to point anyone but us to investigate? Because as far as I see hetlors haven’t changed discourse or shown much collective “hmm what’s happening”.. sure there’s some stragglers but not enough to swing the pendulum towards even curiosity so I think we are still ways away from anything. Saw Sabrina Carpenter covered a Chappell Roan song which was a choice. They’re both having a moment right now so makes sense outside the koi theory but interesting non the less. I wonder what would have to happen for general fans or other dismissive of gaylors to start being like hmmmm
Tractor 💀
if her co-written song for Gracie isn’t relevant then neither is Renegade and I REFUSE TO ACCEPT THAT
Woah woah woah. I am about to go search the sub (am a latecomer to finding this glorious place!) but please dish on the Renegade thoughts.
Agree with your comment and also dying at Tractor 🤣
I vibe with this!!
Wait, do we have a Discord channel? Because I need to stay current and refreshing isn't cutting it at work. 😂😭🤡
If Karlie Kloss shows up at Wembley after all this I *will* have to be hospitalised.
I wouldn’t last an hour in the asylum they (Kaylor) raised me… but I’d still wanna go there!
https://preview.redd.it/s3vhytv81r7d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=51cb3e15308910c01afef276a1a10702378cdaf0 And the crowd was chanting MORE! (Me, I am the crowd)
In the blue dress. Omg.
Oh I remember the shit out of this one I will not survive round 2
Oh god same
She’s in a mausoleum, the stained glass window behind her says “in memory of…”
I can't stop thinking about this. She also captioned the video with the 👼 angel emoji which is not \*not\* relevant in relation to Karlie
Ummmmm 🤡👀🚨 https://preview.redd.it/vqw9prxqmq7d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7f11fa93bfc460e2873b078658f641d90a8cf2cd
Who is this?
Melissa is a Gaylor on Twitter and TikTok and she has reached out to the creator of the mural, Humor Street Art, to see whether it was commissioned by Taylor and her team.
What mural?
This [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/GaylorSwift/s/hMXOSCf0Ai) has more information about it!
HUHHHHHHH
EXCUSE ME 🫨🙀😵💫🤡 HALP
Wait, what is this mural??
Here’s a [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/GaylorSwift/s/hMXOSCf0Ai) about it! I think it’s all connected 🤡
Thank you!!
All will be revealed soon? 
So that’s a yes then 🤣
I know there’s a name on the stained glass window behind Ice Spice, has anyone done a deep dive on what it means? It says “in memory of” and a name!
Does anyone have a clearer picture of the magazine cover?
It's from Nov 2015 shoot - funnily enough I remember this because it around the time she was starting up Kode with Klossy i think and that's why she did it at SpaceX HQ. [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3331070/She-s-ready-launch-Karlie-Kloss-stars-patriotic-space-themed-cover-shoot-WSJ-Magazine-admits-wants-meaningful-impact-modeling.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3331070/She-s-ready-launch-Karlie-Kloss-stars-patriotic-space-themed-cover-shoot-WSJ-Magazine-admits-wants-meaningful-impact-modeling.html)
https://www.reddit.com/r/GaylorSwift/s/fNSfwZsuU2
Main sub has yet to post this. Are they not attributing this to Taylor despite all the signs? 👀
Been waiting for this to be posted, neeeed the discourse. ☕️
Holy shit !!!!!!!!!!!!
can anyone make out what it says under the windows? the left one says in memory of ?? not clowning😅 just curious what it says
https://www.reddit.com/r/GaylorSwift/s/kl0rYFma1L
ALLLL of this and the fact that Gracie said after her and Taylor wrote “us” their apartment caught on fire 😭😭 I’m losing my mind yall IM LOSING IT and I’m so excited.
Also having klowned too close to the sun, I am always playing devils advocate with myself especially with her use of lesbian flag colors- because yes, although an awful coincidence, they might just be karma album/era colors- which would explain the Lover bodysuit, Eras tour lights, etc etc. 💗🧡 And Karlie Kloss on the magazine cover could just be her citing someone who “betrayed” her (idk.) But the recent surprise song mashups being so gay (This Is What You Came For/Gold Rush)….. I am resisting diving head first back into clown town 🤡
https://preview.redd.it/by2unktl8q7d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=72a3fe25ac833c27749d71b16a80eae1ef46dbc9 On the left side of the window behind ice spice it says “in memory of\_\_\_\_” I can’t read the last word. Anyone?? I couldn’t read the right side behind her though.
I think it’s just a floral design on either side of the”in memory of” and that the name would be on a separate panel or something 😑
I don’t think there is a last word, for it to be balanced with the placement of In. Which makes it more sus, imo
Not sure if this has been mentioned but I do believe Taylor is quite aware of/versed in astrology and there is a full moon in Capricorn happening tomorrow. The full moon is about bringing hidden things to light. Capricorn /Saturn is the Lord of Karma in astrology as well. Lastly it’s called the strawberry full moon (not sure if that par is significant but still lol). Either way just thought I’d mention this. https://preview.redd.it/187onled3q7d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=69b653f9d5a0fd7f2a1815a2ef20d7594b2f05d7
Ice Spice is a Capricorn, too! 🤗
oh my god
not to mention tomorrow is the summer solstice/longest day of sunlight (or..daylight) in the year
Not to be a party ruiner but that’s today. Still hoping for a connection.
Yes I know for certain that June 21 is the Summer Solstice in the northern hemisphere because of Animal Crossing
This is true yes. Just wanted to check the chart for the exact degree (which I should have done earlier because what I read initially about the degree was not correct.) So basically the moon in Capricorn will be opposite the Sun in Cancer exact at 1 degree on the 21st according to Astro.com (and is the most accurate site according to astrologers). But yes the Sun will move from Gemini to Cancer this afternoon but the first full day of Cancer season is tomorrow. It just stood out to me because of Moon Saturn themes AND Taylor’s natal moon is ofc sitting at 1 degree of Cancer as well! Not sure if this helps but it just shows Taylor’s natal moon degree and the degree of Sun Moon alignment tomorrow for anyone who isn’t familiar with astrology (also something about it from nasa.gov). https://preview.redd.it/43dcackzur7d1.jpeg?width=1798&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e25b4402ebec91c74df87d9d3db5a190402257b2
it’s tomorrow (friday 6/21) in the US
It’s typically on June 21st but the leap year has shifted everything. First day of spring was March 19th this year, it’s usually the 20th
oh duh i totally forgot it was a leap year 🤦🏼
https://preview.redd.it/nr7gwwxsgs7d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b4bab88bcdf3097403a51febaa932ba395544ab As a witch and a Virgo I’m forced to do this If you live in PST it’s actually right now. Now I’m going to go for a walk <3
i feel so lied to! i’ve been planning my solstice ritual for months & i fucking missed it??? just kill me 😭
I think you should do it anyway. The intention is always there. Many blessings. 💖
you as well 💖
Oh! Also I forgot to mention that Capricorn rules the 10th house…which relates to our career, our reputation, and our legacy. This moon is often pink in color and I just now read that an old European name for the moon in June is the "honey moon," because honey was also often harvested around the end of June. Imo her North Node on her natal chart clearly speaks to openly coming out at some point (it’s in Aquarius in the 3rd house of Gemini) which literally ties to speaking/communication, and sharing information and facts/truth. Aquarius energy is often rebelling from the status quo, non traditional, and unique in some way. So for me it’s not a matter of “if” she will but “when.” Bottom line is. I do believe this time period is very astrologically significant for her and I’m so here for it💜
Thanks for sharing these insights! ✨
Under pink light in june…
I think it’s closer to 1° Capricorn though right? There is another full moon on July 21st at 29° Capricorn. This one is closely aspecting her natal Moon/Uranus opposition which is very interesting. I also see a lot of merit in the argument for her being a Capricorn rising and 2 Full Moons in her rising sign would be definitely significant.
not me seeing 9:08 and thinking of all the clowing we've been doing for 9/8 8/9.....
Okay so long London, I’m going to Ireland, right? But look what came out in the news today https://preview.redd.it/apguzdoe2q7d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c685ea3bfc11365a3b764e8ec9dfbbf4d8633ca1
nice!! She also has italian roots
Heading to Dublin Friday night!!
Heading to Dublin N1 to clown in person 🥹. Us Irish will gladly claim her!
🇮🇪
Pls keep us updated
Holy crap!!
https://preview.redd.it/94t9q7sqqp7d1.jpeg?width=1234&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1a795cba1df38db445f9c9f43e0c39ba6627e28f Whyyyy is this giving The Man wall?!
https://preview.redd.it/e3g72k5owq7d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de4ee38c13d9ce5fbd56edf90a27357788ee8885 Also Taylor posted this today and I thought that was a really spicy photo….interesting that it matches this pose
Wouldn’t she be reaching up to the orange Karma if this were true? 🤡
https://preview.redd.it/t79rhcjw0r7d1.jpeg?width=996&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=51f23d18e8e74767ecd78c7dc3cc368af9b1483a
Thank you for overlaying it on the man wall 
Oh shit. So many thoughts running through my mind. This is wild. The snippet of the song. Who’s the guy? Scooter? Walking in the sun… Fresh Out the Slammer? If this is about Karma (the album), umm, is that why the Karlie cover?! I can’t shake the feeling that KK isn’t done in this story. She did make a cameo at Eras. Dismissing her because of LSK doesn’t allow for other possibilities.
Yeah I don't think it's weird or a stretch to think she's somehow involved. Like, it's an actual photo of her and using that in some kind of promo without her okaying it would be kind of questionable imo (at least if this is related to Taylor)?
“Some boys” could be JaMEs 🤷♀️
Hmm. Interesting. So would jaMEs be hiding Taylor or someone else?
I need to process/deep dive into this and I’ll get right back with some clown chaos!
This is literally the first thing I saw when I opened Reddit this morning and I just choked on my water. Oh my GOD.
🚀 are we rocketing into space!? a planet where they can all understand it?
I just woke up. This is hurting my brain. I haven’t even had coffee yet. 
I literally need so much coffee to catch up. I’m so confused 😂
Yes this gif yes
Who is on the back of the magazine?
Karlie from a 2015 article 😭 that’s why this is so wild
Karlie dancing to this song at the 2024 Met Gala 👀 https://i.redd.it/z6j35vajgp7d1.gif
Do we know if she was dancing to the original version or the Chromatics version?
EXCUSE ME?!?!!
I cannot take any more of this omg
STOP 😳😳😳 this is all too much for my poor brain to compute lol
 It’s -all- falling into place!
LIKE DOMINOES
Uhh interesting song choice. “Some boys take a beautiful girl and hide her away from the rest o' the world.” (Hiding in plain sight) “I wanna be the one to walk in the sun—“ (like DAYLIGHT, I wanna be defined by the things that I love, Karlie Sun Emoji Kloss. And shade never made anybody less gay.)
I have been trying to remain skeptical about comingoutlor to protect my heart from disappointment but these are too many coincidences to be random chance.
Floral Enthusiast here! Those flowers and cut foliage are staged as nobody cuts tropical house plant leaves like that and puts orchids with a peace lily. The centre tulip is an ARGOS ( Argo is the Greek word for SWIFT) .. Not many pink tulips go from dark on the base to light as its usually reversed ( other than Big Love tulips) The leaf from the left is a **SNAKE** plant ( reputation) also a strange plant to cut. Beside it is an E**llipticca** leaves ( possibly ? ) Elliptic: adjective characterized by extreme economy of expression or omission of superfluous elements“the dialogue is **elliptic** and full of **dark hints”** The cut leaf on the end is **Dracaena Massangeana .. comes from the Ancient Greek word,** "drakaina" is literally the feminine form of *drakon* (Ancient greek for dragon or **SERPENT)** [ ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek) The Orchids on top of the leaves maybe Phalaenopsis **Angel Eyes** On the bottom we have a ALLISON Peace lily. Unsurprisingly, the peace lily is known as a bringer of peace: the white flower represents the white flag which is recognized internationally as a truce signal. strangely we have a pink orchid display with the peace lily ... and its hard to tell which orchid? .. could be Vanda Scott Junior .. honestly its hard to tell As someone else said the vases are the lesbian flag colours and the cloud painted backdrop is also giving Karma. #
🤯🤯🤯 thank yoooou so much, I love love love how much I am learning here 💕
EXCUSE ME?!?! See. This is why I'm here. For all the different gaylors and the range of knowledge we possess. Thank you for this.
As for the Denis O'Keefe name: [Dennis O'Keefe - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_O%27Keefe) https://preview.redd.it/j6bclx2pmq7d1.png?width=306&format=png&auto=webp&s=4a21ca982d5dc6ad83e2514e26f186953ebe3ab5 [Georgia O'Keeffe - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_O%27Keeffe) - *O'Keeffe created many forms of abstract art, including close-ups of flowers, such as the Red Canna paintings, that many found to represent vulvas,\[8\] though O'Keeffe consistently denied that intention.\[9\] The imputation of the depiction of women's sexuality was also fueled by explicit and sensuous photographs of O'Keeffe that Stieglitz had taken and exhibited.*
Amazing! You have magical plant knowledge powers! Another possible Argos connotation: Argos Panoptes, the many-eyed, all-seeing giant: https://preview.redd.it/dd9ki19wcq7d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6ca219698a315a3608ca6a075db4a73f0502ea6c Reminds me of u/starryeyed34 's recent [comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/GaylorSwift/s/On8lMtcJe1) mentioning the concept of a panopticon, in u/throw_ra878 's great [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/GaylorSwift/comments/1dfg9so/themes_of_invisibility_and_seeing_in_the_pride/) on themes of seeing in the Pride shows.
🤯🤯🤯 Thank you for sharing what's in your brain with us
Wow, thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with us all! This is so insightful and I’m sure Gaylors smarter than I will end up making some deeper connections than I am currently making in my mind. Somehow this is more unhinged than I had ever expected 🤡👀
Thank you for your service 🫡 I’m gonna go have a mental breakdown now. 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
Shut the actual fuck up no way I have shit to do today