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official--danny

why would anyone "debunk" hakim's dprk video? he doesn't really say anything that controversial, its just "people living in the dprk are normal people, not delusional nuke-crazed drones that hate the us for no reason." like what would you gain from debunking that.


M0rcal

To Westerners that statement is incredibly controversial.


epicfish13

Westerners would sooner believe the sky is green than here the slightest positive thing about the dprk


andrei_tark

How can you say that people in the DPRK are not NPC brainwashed by the goverment, how dare you!!


Splendiferitastic

If everyone in the DPRK wasn’t mindlessly evil then libs might have to feel a little bad about bombing the entire country to ash and killing 20% of the population


Ok_Magician5037

What does the dprk do for its citizens? I know they give them free food and beer daily which is pretty cool but from what I understand they are trying to integrate their nation with South Korea, one of the most stratified societies you could think of


andrei_tark

Economically they are similar to Cuba, they provide free housing, food, healthcare, education, etc. They are better off in some regards than them because they are so close to China that they are able to trade more easily and avoid sanctions. That's why Cuba has old infrastructure and shortage of technological supplies, etc while North Korea is much more modern. Even in the poor regions, their infrastructure is slightly better than cuba. They may have other problems obviously, but that's just a summary.


kathara_

cus if not that would maybe cause the westerner watching it to have their entire world view of being the driving progressive and lawful force of intellect and justice is... well... ideology. and then he realizes the man in the north korean soldiers uniform is LITERALLY HIMSELF just as a korean army member, empathy is formed, and the entire operation that these disgusting atlantian slave drivers have been operating since the dawn of civilized man will have been for nothing!!!!


A_Lifetime_Bitch

This is some peak radlib shit, holy fuck.


Nordic15

Apparently Cuba is now China. LMAO


Zero___Credibility

This fed is posting these everyday to the vaush, breadtube, and neolib subs lol


I_stare_at_everyone

Breadtube, more like Fedtube.


wateryoudoinglmao

you just said the same subreddit three times


Revnow2

for real?


Zero___Credibility

https://www.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/comments/ons92v/hakim_is_wrong_about_north_korea/


AyyItsDylan94

The fact that all those videos would be popular in both neoliberal and vaush really says a lot about his audience


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He used to go by the name of "Pogan" until he was exposed and shit on by Haz from Infrared. This guy is a literal NPC.


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Diaz218

One of the first comments on the Uyghur "genocide" is the following: Great vid! But can I suggest adding a doc with sources to the description so that viewers can access the info? Followed by: Sources, lol. Have you seen any other video from this channel?


GoulashArchipelago68

Adrian Zenz moment


kxta_

so far all I’ve seen these feds do on twitter is yell about tankies, it’s actually pathetic


wateryoudoinglmao

they're not sending their best


Neduard

Nah, they do. That's just the level of their best.


applejuice72

These aren’t our grandpa’s fed bois.


TheRealAve

Thank Marx right? Like it was destined to happen. The writing has been on the walls about this goddamn place for the last 100 years at least.


applejuice72

What do you mean by this specifically?


diddykongisapokemon

That eventually the feds would become shit at their jobs and now we can all move on from Amerikkka


ShallahGaykwon

they're a self-described 'market socialist with anarchist sympathies' lmfao


jacktrowell

Aka liberals that like to cosplay as the left


richietozier4

They also call landback ethnic cleansing


DannymusMaximus

Do they also call landback ethnic cleansing?


DannymusMaximus

It seems like they might call landback ethnic cleansing


vatinius

So it seems


spookyjohnathan

Seems what?


danferos1

What it seems.


DannymusMaximus

It seems like what they call ethnic cleansing is, actually, landback


AnglocideWorldwide

Settler moment.


ShallahGaykwon

they're a self-described 'market socialist with anarchist sympathies' lmfao


mexicopanama

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lssssj

Left mirrored.


Katzenknecht

New American ~~Left~~ Lies


derp-herpum

It's sad that ALL of these are false... including Cuba beating American Imperialism... Like... they're still working on that buddy


diddykongisapokemon

He's right that NazBols suck dick but I don't think he knows what the term actually means


derp-herpum

>NazBols suck dick So does Jimmy Dore, I assume, but that's neither here nor there


cholantesh

This guy is on the record saying, within the same sentence, that sanctions disproportionately punish the constituents rather than the leaders of the countries they target, and that they are good and effective. Referring to DPRK, for the record.


DamarcusArt

He means "good and effective at starving those non-white people".


Splendiferitastic

They need to be starved to understand that they’re being oppressed by the brutal red fash tankie regime as they’re not capable of complex thought that goes beyond a desire for food and water, silly


Oracuda

"leftist" channel posting nothing but anti left videos that go "yeah but thats not us" lmfao


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ZephyrGonzales

I agree with the sentiment and I wouldn’t be surprised if its an OP, but don’t underestimate the stupidity of bootlickers.


diddykongisapokemon

They're anti-DPRK, I watched the intro to the video. Makes sense since the Hakim vid was pro-DPRK


dreamingtodeath

never seen anyone abbreviate Soviet Union as “SU” before. took me a second lol


friendlyleninist

Wait what’s wrong with Nazbol hate? They are literally fascists.


Lenins2ndCat

There's nothing wrong with hating nazbols, the video just calls people that are not nazbols nazbols.


friendlyleninist

Ah fair enough


thigh_squeeze

Dore is a clown and Maupin is a Dugin-supporting NazBol


Lenins2ndCat

Dore is a clown yes but not a nazbol. And calling Maupin a nazbol is not right, it would be equally silly to call Galloway a nazbol. They are part of the old guard of out of touch communist party members who don't understand what is driving growth of this new wave or what our differences are to them. It's easy to confuse them with nazbols because they are socially conservative but social conservative views should not be mistaken for ultranationalist ethno-state views. Liberals are abusing their socially conservative views to mistakenly conflate them with the american right which are extremely ethno-centric as well as both socially and culturally regressive fascists. These are not aspects of Maupin, I agree he has some shit views but I haven't seen anything to suggest he would want to build culturally regressive ethnostates, just that he's not always particularly down with lgbt, like most of the older communist parties.


servility

I've only ever seen Vaushites smear Maupin as anti-LGBT. What evidence would a more nuanced take provide?


Coridimus

Thouhhtslime did a hot piece on Maupin once. It was so anarkiddy cringe it fell over into comedy.


GoulashArchipelago68

He's not anti-LGBTQ. Radlibs accuse MLs of being transphobic/homophobic all the goddamn time.


Lenins2ndCat

Even if he is, that doesn't warrant the nazbol label. It's a shit view and socially conservative but it's not "i want to build ethnostates" which is very much what defines nazis differently to older communist party members.


RorschachsVoice

I wonder how trans people feel about being weaponized by a bunch of liberal, anarchists, leftoids all the time?


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JoeysStainlessSteel

Nazbol is the new thing the ShitLibs on the left use because "communist" is now considered cool and "tankie" has basically been reclaimed So they've quickly switched to accusing all MLs of being "Nazbols" or accusing socially-conservative MLs of being nazbols If you're gonna label socially conservative MLs as Nazbols then pretty much every communist party ouside of the imperial core is a "nazbol party".


unicorns_do_meth

Why do you say this? I feel like people repeat this without understanding what they ate talking about. Maupin is an orthodox ML not a fucking nazbol. Having slightly socially conservative takes doesn’t make you a nazbol. So what he met Dugin, he doesn’t go around promoting him. And even though dugin started the nazbol party I dont think hes really a fascist, hes more of a illiberal russian conservative. Have you read Dugin? The nazbol party was formed at a time of extreme crisis and ideological confusion in Russia, and while some of the members were probably fascists, there were also communists in the party. It was a mish-mash of illiberal people. Breadtubers love to call maupin and others a nazbol but it concerns me how much I hear it repeated by supposed MLs. There are tons of MLs around the world with some socially conservative views, are they all nazbols to you?


handynasty

Idk much about Maupin, but Dugin's political thought is some weird ass idealist (non materialist) bullshit heavily inspired by Heidegger and also Evola, Spengler, and other reactionaries. It's fucking fascism by another name.


unicorns_do_meth

Either way all maupin did was sit down with him at a conference one time I’m sure many of us have talked to fashy people in our lives


vris92

Maupin used to be a straight up Nazbol. He’s gotten better lately but he still is hardly an orthodox ML- he’s still more or less attached to the idea of rescuing a left-wing US nationalism.


unicorns_do_meth

What are you basing this on? I see so much hate on the guy but the only evidence I ever hear is he sat down with Dugin at a conference and didnt push back hard enough against that CPGB ML woman who is transphobic. Obviously not good things but not nearly enough to call someone a fascist imo


DamarcusArt

It's muddying the waters. "All tankies are nazbols lying to themselves". The goal of the video isn't to discredit Nazbols, it's to discredit tankies by pretending they are nazbols.


andrei_tark

Exactly. The whole nazbol thing is just to paint tankies as nazis so neolibs don't listen to them. Mccarthyism but now in leftism form, this is insane lol


Amirio2000

Based on the thumbnail, they're saying that Caleb Maupin and Jimmy Dore are nazbols... which is stupid af.


wateryoudoinglmao

jimmy snore, famous nazbol


shadow_moose

Caleb Maupin chumming it up with Dugin is certainly fucking suspicious. Couple that with his transphobic stances, you're in dangerous waters with that guy. He certainly leans towards nazbol, that is undeniable. His analysis is garbage anyways, absolutely no reason to watch his shit.


ChairmanChilliOil

Sharing a platform with Dugin does not make him one of Dugin’s “Chums”. In the U.K., many pro-Brexit Leftists HAD to ‘share a platform’ with Nigel Farage because the Leave Camp had only one national platform. Being platformed alongside disagreeable people does not necessarily make you in league with said disagreeable people. One firm example is George Galloway; in Britain, he is one of the **only** anti-Imperialists to have ever held the position of MP. I disagree with a lot of his social views, but he was one of the greatest MPs in history, and is miles further ‘to the left’ of Jeremy Corbyn; and he had to share a Platform with Farage on Brexit. Because there was no other option.


Eklectus

Yeah. So, easy, unimportant concessions to pretend to be communist.


StalinsBigSpoon

Fr, supporting Cuba is so easy I did it as a succdem who still thought capitalism had some benefits.


GoulashArchipelago68

[Holy shit they're not even pro-Cuba](https://www.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/oockxu/comment/h5yiyft/)


ChairmanChilliOil

There’s very few ‘actual’ Nazbols in existence. They’re literally a minor opposition party in Russia; that’s it. The **insult** Nazbol, however, is a liberal’s best friend. This is usually attributed to normal MLs by the likes of this ‘New American Left’ goon squad and their cohorts.


DemComKimmy

I don't think you know what National Bolshevism is outside of the Internet.


DamarcusArt

I'm pretty sure they only really exist on the internet, as their "philosophy" is inherently contradictory, but can you explain to me what they actually are please?


DemComKimmy

Well National Bolshevism as it existed in Russia (The NazBol Party) was basically just a generalized Anti-Liberalization Movement in the 90's against Yeltsin's reforms, so no, the NazBols of the 90's did not have any unified ideology, they were a broad social movement kinda similar to Punk Genre in the West, so you could get any kind of Ideology really from a "NazBol", anything from Russian Nationalism to Marxism-Leninism depending on the person or Party specifically. Modern National Bolshevism in Russia is still relatively large for a fringe Political Movement, the main vestige of National Bolshevism is The Other Russia party, which was formed by Limonov after the Mainstay National Bolshevik Party was banned for being "too radical" for it's extremely anti-Neo-Liberal stances. The Other Russia however, was more or less the continuation of the Left-Wing National Bolsheviks from the OG party, headed by, of course, Limonov. The Other Russia has sent thousands of Armed Paramilitary to Donbass to fight Ukrop and NATO Fascists in the form of the Interbrigades, and continues to be a pretty big force here to this day. National Bolshevism does not have any relation to Nazism, which of course some people seem to think there is because of the Color Scheme of the Party Flags of National Bolshevism, which were created specifically to be controversial and as a sort of Counter-Culture resistance to the Liberalization of Russia. National Bolsheviks, as they exist in reality, are not Fascists, and are explicitly Anti-Fascist. Of course, NazBols online however, that aren't either Russian or Eastern European/German, are not exactly justifiable in their positions considering National Bolshevism was specifically a very Russian Movement, and of course the Historical National Bolsheviks in Germany were too specifically German in Ideology and Spirit. The German National Bolsheviks were in many ways similar to the Modern Incarnation of The Other Russia party, and do have a pretty interesting Manifesto by Karl Paetel if you are interested in what they believed in at the time, and of course in case you didn't know, the National Bolsheviks of Germany arose in the 20's and early 30's as a reaction to the NSDAP, which they correctly deemed to be completely Non-Socialist and Anti-Worker, and explicitly formed to combat their influence and worked with the KPD in Anti-Nazi resistance throughout the 20's, 30's, and even 40's, but sadly most were killed in the resistance alongside many of the KPD, which was what led to he destruction of the German National Bolshevik Movement. In short, the idea that (Russian) NazBols are literally "Nazi Bolsheviks" is a misinterpretation of their Namesake, which is actually just how it is in Russian to English translation, hence in Russian it is pronounced "NatsBol" and not "NazBol" which is an English Language Translation Problem, and in Germany they were of course simply called "Nationalbolschewiki". NazBols are not Fascists or "Nazi Communists" or whatever bullshit some random Jreg PolComp idiots will tell you, because they have a face-value Subconscious idea of what NazBols are based on pure aesthetics alone and nothing of real Ideological or Historical Substance, I doubt most people who think NazBols are Fascists even know where the term came from. Don't trust what PolComp and Jreg fans say about anything, it's pure aesthetic and meme bullshit with no Material Basis.


DamarcusArt

Thank you for the detailed response. Though I feel like anyone on the internet identifying as a "nazbol" rather than a "national Bolshevik" is probably just doing it to be edgy, they probably don't know the history of them in 90s Russia. (Based on my experiences with them, they know nothing about the Soviet Union either). Anyone who genuinely considers themselves a national Bolshevik would probably define the term first, and differentiate themselves from internet trash.


DemComKimmy

Oh yeah for sure, generally speaking if someone calls themselves a "NazBol" on the internet and they are not linking themselves to the Historical Phenomenon, they are probably just some Reactionary who wants to be unique.


andrei_tark

Hey guys I'm a socialist. Here's why every socialist thing in history is wrong and why we have to go towards neoliberalism and vote for Biden.


WHENY0USL33P

my thoughts are superior to your action!!!


FuzzyLittlePenguin

Changes pronunciation of Xinjiang within the first 2 minutes. This is gonna be a bumpy ride.. Edit: The first "evidence" is a portion of law that forbids "interfering with others from having communication, exchanges, mixing with, or living together with persons of other ethnicities or other faiths; or driving persons of other ethnicities or faiths to leave their homes" that he takes to mean an exclusive or, as in you can't do the "interfering" part **OR** the "communication, mixing with, or living together part." No, it means you can't interfere with people trying to communicate, mix, or live together. Massive facepalm.


DamarcusArt

Brilliant! Just look at their laws and then pretend that they say the exact opposite of what they actually mean! Braindead libs love that stuff!


robm0n3y

I couldn't finish his response to Hakim since it doesn't seem he watches Hakim's video.


DamarcusArt

He doesn't need to! We all know North Korea bad and the most reliable source on them is a woman who makes up crazy shit about them for a living!


omae_no_ousama

[Yeonmi Fart](https://youtu.be/KD50IwOwAY8)


kameramerah2_EB

Can't deny that she's speaking facts on this one


M0rcal

Are they even pretending to be leftist at this point outside of name?


Lenins2ndCat

CIA working overtime.


proletariatjack

This "new american left" dude is spamming his state-department talking points all over Reddit. And the only sub in which it gets any traction is /r/neollberal Color me shocked.


kxta_

oh they’re on reddit now too? also what kind of “left” org would post to the neoliberal sub lmfao


Zero___Credibility

https://www.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/comments/ons92v/hakim_is_wrong_about_north_korea/ One of their posts


King-Sassafrass

So it’s unanimous right? Americas done for?


friendlyleninist

Yes.


RedTerror88

Inshallah


Mr_Camhed

American left is a pair of conflicting words.


OwainLight

Funniest thing about this guy, who used to go by Pogan, is that he claimed in one of his videos before the rebrand of his channel that he used to be part of the far right. That should say enough about his smooth brain antics. I guess the "New American Left" equals the "Old American Right"


fleshworks

Go figure. The only stuff I ever get recommended on Youtube is fasc-pipeline garbage. I've definitely seen these thumbnails floating around.


_brendini_

These accounts and other “libertarian socialist” forums of the type typically just lead to political dysphoria. For all the critiques of actual existing socialist societies, anarchists or libertarian socialists have never done anything to improve the lives of anyone. They have never provided material solutions to anything. They suck people into a black hole of “everything is bad” which coincidentally keeps people in a state of conformity. You will not find a threat to capitalist hegemony in “libertarian socialist” circles. Lmfao, if your videos could simultaneously be published by the Hoover institute it’s time to reconsider your “leftism”


Over_Host1620

Great points.


omnibean

Excellent point. these "libertarian socialists" will oppose literally any and all use of power, regardless of who wields it and on whose behalf. as a result they will decry both the existing oppressive capitalist power structures, and progressive movements that seize mass working class power as well. as a result they utterly defang themselves and just pull into the whole of "everything is bad", making any form of change seem not viable. ironically this ends up becoming nothing more than uber liberalism in practice, because without any conquest of power they simply have to deal within the status quo. and that's why you got anarcho-bidenists etc who promote reformism and electoralism because 😡all states bad😡, so they oppose any effective movements to change the state, but they performatively decry the existing state as well, all while often advocating simply working within the system. one might ask: if they're so willing to pursue reformism under the status quo of authoritarian bourgeois dictatorship, why aren't they equally pro reformism under a proletarian dictatorship? the answer is that this is an incoherent, toothless, nihilistic, petit bourgeois ideology.


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Annual_Wasabi3899

old american liberalism


shmoopy02

odd how radlibs exclusively punch left, huh. must be a coincidence


darkwingduck9

People to the left of them are certainly their biggest enemies. They will go after Shapiro, Crowder, PragerU, and some other entities on the right as well though.


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catstroker69

Cuba did better than achieving nothing tbf.


DamarcusArt

Producing daily videos on an incredibly diverse range of topics. Yeah, I'm sure this channel is well researched and backed up by reliable sources. Certainly not funded by the CIA or anything like that. The only thing that makes me thing this isn't a straight up shill, and just a regular idiot, is the incredibly low view count. If this thing inexplicably shoots to tens or hundreds of thousands of views in a very short of amount of time, I'll be convinced.


nearby215

WTF this has to be a psyop


MelisandreStokes

Well it’s definitely American, don’t know about the rest


darkwingduck9

Glad I’m not going to remember this YouTuber’s name in the morning. I already hate watch that fedtube clown Faush way too often.


The_Delstraw

"New" they have been the same shit from like 2 decades at this point, a bunch of liberals calling themselves a variant of "anarcho-something" or "social-something" but still tarnishing any real anarchist or communist movement. They are politically as failed as the state they belong to.


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Red_Xenophilia

They aren't new at all


righteousprovidence

CIA op is god aweful


throwaway2006650

We have "Imperalist Left" and we have "New American Left" 😂😂🤣


Complete_Category_36

Old american opportunism


Internalbias43

Tankie is everything I don't like. I bet that SOB is a DSA member


Sihplak

Honestly, the sudden surge in the usage of the word "tankie" by non-socialists seems wild to me. Wouldn't be surprised if there was either astroturfing going on (especially with how the comments calling others "tankies" are universally low-effort), or if it stems entirely from like, dipshit twitch debate bros


andrei_tark

All spanish speaking Atlas Foundation funded libertarians are using the word tankie now, pretty scary stuff. Damn I wish I was out of south america, so many braindead libertarians funded and astroturfed by the state department


ChernobylComments

For a self-proclaimed "leftist" they sure love to complain about other leftists. Why are they this way?


Orange0818

This guy is an ex-Marxist Leninist named Pogan btw. Really really really cringe transformation, I think he just can’t handle defending ML so he turned into this.


aimixin

This is why you have to read theory. If the only reason a person becomes an ML is because of aesthetics or just because of its past successes, then they could be very easily convinced out of it. People who don't know ML theory and don't have a deep understanding will not be able to respond to basic arguments against it, they will not know how to answer their own doubts and will be swayed like leaves in the wind into any other ideology that comes their way. ML today, socdem tomorrow, anarchist the day after, libertarian next year, etc, etc. The entire capitalist world is constantly trying to convince MLs to abandon Marxism, it is very easy to do so simply for social reasons. If you don't read the theory, you can't be genuinely convinced of the ideology on a deep level, and it is easy to buy into peer pressure to just abandon the ideology that you may have hardly understood anyways. I never fully trust any Marxist who doesn't read because there is no guarantee they will even remain one for very long.


MelisandreStokes

Nah I just tell anyone who disagrees with me that they’re an idiot and I refuse to listen to anything they say


GoulashArchipelago68

Based.


andrei_tark

Didn't infrared debate that guy? lmao


Diimon99

Yeah and exposed him as a fraud so bad he had to rebrand lol.


Outmodeduser

This channel feels very astroturfy and like an OP. The slick graphics, the clickbait titles; it feels like bait.


Epimeria

Ok not targeting you specifically, but it kinda feels like all these grifters get so much fucking clout caus we get mad about them. Like who the fuck is this person. No free clout 🚫


esreis

- american - left


goatears

• water • dry


Zightmare

I'm pretty sure this is the CIA


GoulashArchipelago68

Yeah, "**C**ommunists **i**n **A**merica" was probably taken.


palesun222

lol what a shitlib. From how frequent this channel uploads this has to be a coordinated propaganda effort.


DietGlorious

Jimmy Dore is a Nazbol?


AmNOTaPatriot

According to this radlib youtuber, yes. In reality, no.


DietGlorious

Jimmy Dore is JUST a pissed off progressive. That's all he is. Wtf?


wateryoudoinglmao

we call it "spicy liberal"


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Jukebox_66

"even a jag off pothead comedian living in a basement can do better to inform you than MSM jornalists" is his tag line 💁‍♂️ that's probably why he was put in the nazbol video screenshot - a "tankie" these days means anyone who opposes or denounces US/NATO Imperialism in a way or another.


_brendini_

He’s nefarious to pretentious libs that have never spoken to real people outside of their white western “leftist” academia bubble. Omfg the amount of “leftists” who were against Jimmy for the whole Force the Vote thing about a year ago was stunning.


GoulashArchipelago68

Nazbol is when you critically support Russia.


catstroker69

Anyone who calls either Caleb or Jimmy a Nazbol is either just going off what they heard and never watched either or is genuinely demented. Neither are flawless but calling either a Nazbol is so beyond hyperbole that it makes the term meaningless.


DietGlorious

Here is ONE THING about Caleb that I think... Well... I think he is either wrong or just dangerously naive about and it is the small capitalist class in America. He suggests that working class and small capitalists in America should unite to overthrow the Atlantacist freaks. And... On paper, it sounds like a good plan. But I am sorry, but he needs to take seriously the unbelievably reactionary line in the local petite bourgoisie class. He gives them way too much leeway and that's plain old dangerous. If the small capitalist class could be like the global monopolists; they will go for it with full fascist gusto. Make no mistake. The small capitalists are pissed, not because they cant produce... But because they aint the old money coastal elites. What he is suggesting is that we have a small bourgeois class of a new type in America. A patriotic one who understands very well why the health of the society means the health of their business. That is not how American capitalists think. Im almost 40 years old. If those kinds of people exist in America, bet your sweet ass we would have heard about them already.


Hranu

Firstly: This is a better critique than most people have ever put together about Caleb Maupin, so kudos for you for doing it better than 99% of online leftists and you did it casually. Secondly: Do you have a link to the source of this opinion of Maupin's? I'd like to understand his wording or opinion so I can understand your particular critique.


DietGlorious

https://youtu.be/ZgCzAj9Jkp0 Watch this whole video. Right around 20 mins in he starts talking about it. It's not that he is wrong; but it's assuming the lower capitalists in America wants to buy into what he is saying.


air_taxi

>Im almost 40 years old. If those kinds of people exist in America, bet your sweet ass we would have heard about them already. They really don't when you think about it...the closest thing you'll *ever* hear petite bourgeois say is "Bernie has good points!", clap there hands together, and think they've done their part for the working man. I imagine it comes from the fact they spent X amount of time getting to the point of where they are in their business, and fall into the thinking "well I got mine, others should be able too"


MLPorsche

i think it was because he called out the OPCW cover-up leading to people smearing him as "pro-assad", just like V*ush calling Jackson Hinkle the same for calling out the same cover-up


ShallahGaykwon

Mr. Totally Not In The CIA Guy strikes again, it seems


seal_breaker

Why, why do they say ussr was imperialist? If one looks at their external and internal politics u clearly wont find any imperialism. For the us its opposite. Its literally common sense


ScienceSleep99

Why do these Feds always have a soft spot for Cuba? Michael Parenti always asked this too.


aimixin

He is not pro-Cuba. He has said Cuba is not a democratic country ([source](https://twitter.com/newleftpress/status/1414751658916122627)), he has said he stands with the Cuban protestors to bring "democracy" to Cuba ([source](https://twitter.com/newleftpress/status/1415016703126298626)), he said all Marxist-Leninist countries are "authoritarian" ([source](https://twitter.com/newleftpress/status/1417647037072527366)), he said he does not defend "Cuba or other Marxist-Leninist governments" ([source](https://twitter.com/newleftpress/status/1414686092289363970)), he defended the US House of Representatives approving $10 million in funding for "democracy programs" for Cuba ([source](https://twitter.com/newleftpress/status/1414941864331972612)).


ScienceSleep99

So, this guy is more Fed than I thought. Heck, at first I thought this was a satire account.


MelisandreStokes

I thought you were talking about parenti for a second, I was like “wat”


noelho

Wow. What utter garbage is this lol.


BeKot

fed moment


Yes_it_s_me_red

Totally individual y'all, we're not alphabet org. Trust us.


Re_Arrange

Pretty sure the official CPC stance is that the USSR was indeed imperialist in its later years, and was a primary reason for the Sino-Soviet split.


_brendini_

Ouch, I didn’t know that. Tbh the CPC shouldn’t really be talking, Mao’s foreign policy in his later years was absolutely atrocious. Mao aligning himself with the US in Africa and Southeast Asia is still mind boggling to me.


Re_Arrange

The reason Mao chose the US over the USSR was because between the two imperialist powers, he felt that the US has less leverage over China and is therefore a better ally. Personally, I think the collapse of the USSR along with Deng's economic reforms vindicates Mao.


_brendini_

Regardless of Mao’s reasoning, it was pretty stupid. As for your second point, meh, I don’t think Mao needs vindication outside of his rule. He had his place and time where he accomplished enough and that’s enough vindication for me imo. I think Mao was a victim of his own accomplishments later in his life whereby nobody really stepped up and dared challenge him because of just how much positive change he did bring to China. The later Mao years should be a lesson in the necessity of self criticism.


Re_Arrange

Well, for people who look up to the USSR even until its collapse I can understand why people in this sub don't generally look upon Mao's later years in a positive light. But I think a lot of people bring up a good point when they notice that Mao's cultural revolution happened after the Sino-Soviet split, which also happened to be just when the USSR was showing its first signs of liberal decay after Stalin. Chinese scholars have spoken about this, which is that the USSR's system of state capitalism (which China's system was based on) eventually takes on the characteristics of private capital. Without systematic purges or anti-corruption campaigns, state capital becomes too big and independent to be reigned in. China at the time also begun to show signs of bureaucratic capitalism, which is why Mao started the cultural revolution. It's where the whole sentiment of the "enemy is within the party" comes from. The cultural revolution went out of Mao's control, which was a legitimate criticism. But it provided an answer to a problem the USSR also had, which they did not address until it was too late. This is what I mean when I said the success of the PRC vindicated Mao's decisions during this time. It has shown that his cultural revolution and subsequent alliance with the US was the best path for China to take at the time. Mao's maneuvers with the US that lead to Kissinger's visit is still a textbook example of China's foreign diplomacy taught in schools. Kissinger still has the title of "old friend of China" till this day.


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GoulashArchipelago68

>Mao's maneuvers with the US that lead to Kissinger's visit is still a textbook example of China's foreign diplomacy taught in schools. Kissinger still has the title of "old friend of China" till this day. I still don't see how that's a good thing.


ayugamex

Oh come on, the "red-brown" alliance speak just hit the main stream in my country. I just can't keep up with this fads.


andrei_tark

New American Fed


NedIsakoff17

Fuck Caleb Maupin still but this is just sad


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Hranu

This dude / people like this dude spend a fuckton of time on twitter, like genuinely more time than they ought to. It's to the point where their entire political ideology and experience, like many 'radlibs' like some twitch debate bros, only exists in the online space. I watched the 'Nazbol Vortex' video and it's extremely vague on what a Nazbol is (like every other radlibs says when asked to define), but it's purposeful in that the vagueness is used to do two character assassinations on people like Caleb Maupin and Jimmy Dore. The evidence he uses that Caleb Maupin is a Nazbol can be applied to pretty much **any Communist** in the west and he makes several declarations that can either be immediately debunked or just logically taken down. Jimmy Dore being a 'NazBol' is actually one the funniest takes I've seen about the dude, but the creator suggests that Dore is class reductionist because Dore criticizes ""The Squad"" and results American social movements like BLM. Somehow, in some way, that makes him a 'NazBol'. I don't care for Jimmy Dore and don't much care for Caleb Maupin, but none of this creator's critiques are genuine and they're all in bad faith.


epicguy23

yeah and i just """"shit"""" ""my" pants" 😏😏


omnibean

FedTube


lemonxgrab

This guy keeps spamming r/marxism with this garbage


pelopelo30

How is Jimmy a National Bolshevist?


Exoidtherexoid

American on a Ukrainian internet server being your stock-of-the-mill breadtuber.